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Title: Feature Request: Compatibility with Windows Media Center Recordings (WTV/DVR-MS)
Post by: chriswale on August 25, 2009, 07:18:25 am
I would like to import my Windows Media Center recordings into JRiver Media Center.

I discovered that WTV files (windows 7 media center recordings) are not compatible with JRiver Media Center.

I decided to import my recordings from Vista Media Center (dvr-ms files, which are compatible).
However, the tags (metadata) for these recordings i.e. channel, series, description, episode, etc... are not showing up in the tag fields in JRiver Media Center.
Title: WTV not compatible, so what about DVR-MS tags?
Post by: chriswale on August 25, 2009, 07:28:05 am
Does anyone have any idea about this?

Title: Re: Windows Media Center Recordings in JRiver Media Center?
Post by: Yaobing on August 25, 2009, 07:51:47 am
WTV is not coded into MC because it is new.  I probably can add it next to dvr-ms.  No metadata is imported for these videos for now.
Title: Feature request: Windows Media Center Recordings Compatibility
Post by: chriswale on August 25, 2009, 09:55:14 am
In which case, I shall request the following features.

Windows Media Center recordings compatibility.


These are essential features for someone who is moving from Windows Media Center to JRiver Media Center.
Currently only feature (2) is available in JRiver Media Center.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Feature Request: Compatibility with Windows Media Center Recordings (WTV/DVR-MS)
Post by: Yaobing on August 25, 2009, 10:34:35 am
Since I am not running Windows 7, do you mind doing a test for me?

I believe supporting WTV file is as simple as adding the extension to FileAssociations.xml, assuming Windows still uses DirectShow to play the files.

The FileAssociations.xml file is located in [MC installation folder]\Data\Default Resources\ folder.  You can change it at these two places:

<Video>MPEG Video (mp2,mpeg,mpg,m1v,mpv,mpe,m2v); ... Windows Media Video (wmv,wvx,dvr-ms,wtv);...</Video>

and

<DXTypes>snd;mid;rmi;midi;...dvr-ms;wtv;...</DXTypes>

In other words, put wtv next to dvr-ms.

Let me know how it works.

For #3, I will have to explore more about it before I can decide whether/when it will be possible.
Title: Re: Feature Request: Compatibility with Windows Media Center Recordings (WTV/DVR-MS)
Post by: chriswale on August 25, 2009, 11:43:12 am
i did your test. Yes, you can then import the WTV files. However, they do not play. You see them in the list, they open to fullscreen when you try to play them, but no sound and no picture.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you want me to do any other tests.
Title: Re: Feature Request: Compatibility with Windows Media Center Recordings (WTV/DVR-MS)
Post by: chriswale on August 25, 2009, 11:51:47 am
Just to mention. The WTV files are big (30MB per minute fair quality / 70MB per minute best quality).

I am going to compress and convert these Media Center recordings using (WTV to AVI). However, when converted the metadata tags are lost  :'( and this information needs to be inserted manually.

>:( I cannot find a way in which to compress WTV or DVR-MS files without losing the meta-data tags.
Any help here would be appreciated. Alternatively, I could consider using JRiver to record TV, but I have struggled (a lot) to set this up in the past.  


If there is a tool out there which can maintain the original WTV container format for a file (complete with metadata) but strip out MPEG2 and reinsert H264 compressed data - I'd be really interested...
Title: Re: Feature Request: Compatibility with Windows Media Center Recordings (WTV/DVR-MS)
Post by: Yaobing on August 25, 2009, 01:39:26 pm
i did your test. Yes, you can then import the WTV files. However, they do not play. You see them in the list, they open to fullscreen when you try to play them, but no sound and no picture.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you want me to do any other tests.

Are they imported as Video?

Tools > Options > File Types

Find wtv type and choose "JRiver Video Engine (using DirectShow)" for Playback Method, and select filters (if you know what to choose).
Title: Re: Feature Request: Compatibility with Windows Media Center Recordings (WTV/DVR-MS)
Post by: chriswale on August 25, 2009, 03:27:42 pm
I changed the file types settings as you requested. The WTV files still do not play.