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Networks and Remotes => Media Network => Topic started by: tombert on February 19, 2011, 08:09:58 am
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A few releases ago MC didn't even show up my DLNA Renderers ... but now this seems to be stable ...
Anyhow one problem remains: When I drag-drop a file to my Renderer (which is a Sony TV) it always plays the same file - which is the one I played and selected last directly with the TV.
Anything I/you can do about?
thx
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A few releases ago MC didn't even show up my DLNA Renderers ... but now this seems to be stable ...
Anyhow one problem remains: When I drag-drop a file to my Renderer (which is a Sony TV) it always plays the same file - which is the one I played and selected last directly with the TV.
Anything I/you can do about?
thx
Please try the latest beta. Some changes were made for video conversion. It might help.
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Tried now - no success - always plays the same file ...
By the way: forgot to say I'am trying with Audio.
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What type of file are you drag/dropping? Is it stored locally or on a library server or NAS?
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Its an Audio file, mp3, stored on a samba network share.
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Thanks for the info...
Now about the file that played when you accessed it from the Sony TV. Did you access that through MC or did you access the NAS directly (with SMB or DLNA)??
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MC runs as DLNA server - that's the way I access the file.
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Very interesting...
I'd be nice if you could get a wireshark capture of this happening since we don't have a Sony TV here.
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you should have received e-mail from me ...
thx
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you should have received e-mail from me ...
thx
Got it, thanks!
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you should have received e-mail from me ...
thx
I see what is going on. The file is being presented to the TV but the TV is rejecting it.
From what I can dig out online the Sony is claiming it's a mimetype error (this may not actually be the problem but it's a good hint).
Now the content directory is showing the file as being L16 LPCM not mp3:
Vier Gewinnt
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_CI=0" duration="0:03:52" size="41052514">http://192.168.100.93:52101/Music/F137690.0.wav
If the original is mp3 then it's being transcoded by MC. You might want to try turning off conversion in the DLNA server audio conversion options.
I think the reason it plays the previous song is that was the last successful set transport uri command and the TV probably just does that after we set the uri (and assume it worked).
The thing is, while it should work with the mp3 without conversion (let me know if this works if you can test it), it really should have worked with the conversion as well. I might have something for you to test that way in a day or two.
Thanks,
Bob
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I've changed to "never convert" and played an mp3 file with the TV.
Then I draged-droped another file onto the TV - it still plays the old file ... but this time MC thinks it plays the new one.
thx
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I've changed to "never convert" and played an mp3 file with the TV.
Then I draged-droped another file onto the TV - it still plays the old file ... but this time MC thinks it plays the new one.
thx
I hate to ask, but would you mind doing a capture of that scenario as well?
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The closest thing I have here for testing is a Sony BD-S570. It seems to REQUIRE the DLNAExtra setting in advanced. Can you make sure the first server (or only server, if you only have one) in your DLNA server list has that set in advanced options? Both the Sony and Samsung BD/TV templates for creating a DLNA server should set that flag. Thanks...
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Ok I'll check DLNAExtra (but I think it's already enabled) and provide another wireshark snapshot ... but might take a few days till I have time.
thx
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I've checked - DLNA extra is always on.
Did send you the wireshark snapshot you requested by e-mail.
thx
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Got it, haven't checked it yet. Will asap...
Thanks...
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Thanks for that dump...
There might be a problem with that device accepting cover art as a resource. I'll make you a test build to check this hypothesis...
Bob
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... but ... cover art is working fine!
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... but ... cover art is working fine!
It's presented in a couple of different ways...
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any news? was the wireshark snapshot ok?
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Sorry, not yet. The queue is getting real deep. If you don't mind, bump this topic periodically.
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I'm having the same issues controlling my Sony Bravia KDL-52EX700 from MC16 to play music files. No matter what song I play in MC...the TV always plays the last song I played via the TV's direct access to my media server.
Any progress with a solution for this?
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Hi tombert,
I got a change to check the last dump. The renderer is returning an obscure error saying the the resource we presented it with isn't available.
There are only 2 resources in the SetAvTransport didl. One is:
http://192.168.100.93:52100/Music/F765.0.mp3 (http://192.168.100.93:52100/Music/F765.0.mp3)
and the other is:
http://192.168.100.93:52100/AArt/765.jpg (http://192.168.100.93:52100/AArt/765.jpg)
Can you make sure both of these open in a browser?
Thanks...
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Well I had to try with another file ... but yes - I can access both image and music. I tried with:
http://192.168.100.93:52100/AArt/714128.jpg
http://192.168.100.93:52100/Music/F714128.0.mp3
The image showed my thumb and the mp3 played nice.
tom
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Well I had to try with another file ... but yes - I can access both image and music. I tried with:
http://192.168.100.93:52100/AArt/714128.jpg
http://192.168.100.93:52100/Music/F714128.0.mp3
The image showed my thumb and the mp3 played nice.
tom
Ok, thanks for trying it.
Can you turn off DLNA (and DLNAExtra) in the advanced options so it's just using upnp commands and see if anything changes??
Thanks,
Bob
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I turned both options off independently but no change ... :(
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I turned both options off independently but no change ... :(
Tom, what model is your TV? We are thinking of getting one to test with.
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KDL-40EX500
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KDL-40EX500
It's really hard to tell what they are up to. There seem to be some TV's that are marked as DMR (renderers) and others that aren't and according to what I can find online, the US versions of some models don't support DMR where the European ones do.
I'm looking at http://support.sony-europe.com/tutorials/tvhc/dlna/dlna.aspx?site=odw_en_GB&m=KDL-40EX500 (http://support.sony-europe.com/tutorials/tvhc/dlna/dlna.aspx?site=odw_en_GB&m=KDL-40EX500)
which doesn't claim DMR functionality like this one does:
http://support.sony-europe.com/tutorials/tvhc/dlna/dlna.aspx?site=odw_en_GB&m=KDL-52W5800 (http://support.sony-europe.com/tutorials/tvhc/dlna/dlna.aspx?site=odw_en_GB&m=KDL-52W5800) (if you look under "enjoy photo/music files over the network").
However, punch the model number in here:
http://www.dlna.org/products (http://www.dlna.org/products)
and you'll see it's DMR certified. Sigh.
Anyway, thanks for the model, we'll see if we can dig up a close relative.
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So we picked up a KDL-40EX600 because DLNA.ORG says it's a DMR but there is no ethernet or wireless on it that I can find!
There seems to be some indication on the interwebs that it uses a usb network adapter but whatever I plug in comes up as an unsupported device.
Anyone have any tips on networking these or should we take it back??
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? ... mine has a LAN plug ...
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? ... mine has a LAN plug ...
It's a bit weird, none of the KDL-40EX anythings have networking in the US. It looks like you can buy a Sony dongle to use with the usb port but it doesn't claim DLNA support anywhere.
Anyway we took it back and got a KDL-46NX810 that duplicates your problem so I've finally got something to test with...
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Interesting. It should work with at least mp3 and lpcm but it doesn't, it should also work with mpeg2 video but no luck. It does work with pictures though, hmmm.
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Working in Build 16.0.75 and above.
The TV required extra info in the HEAD request.
Tested with mp3 and L16.
Also works with mpeg2/ac3 videos and ifos (unconverted) and all others converted to DVD/MPEG2 with the Video MimeType hack (in advanced, mimetype set to video/mpeg and DLNAType set to MPEG_PS_NTSC (the defaults))
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Hi,
does it mean that I can safely buy MC16? The problem is fixed?
thx
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Hi,
does it mean that I can safely buy MC16? The problem is fixed?
thx
It works perfectly for me with Music now (it has native support for MP3 and L16). The cover-art looks great on the TV :)
it worked fine before with Images and still does.
The TV is somewhat limited playing video. It appears to only support mpeg2 video (as required by the DLNA standard).
The DVD rips in MC work fine as well as mpeg2 with ac3 sound.
I think other video will need to be transcoded. The DVD mpeg2 preset in MC works well with the mpeg override settings I mentioned.
According to it's DLNA certificate, when pushing to the TV, you can't seek. You can pause/resume however and that is what I see here.
http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG13086555.pdf (http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG13086555.pdf)
Thanks a lot for your help with this :)
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Unfort. MC16 fails in my .wine installation - simply hangs up ... currently I'am trying to re-install ... hope to get it running again ...
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Fine - works again! I can controll my TV now ... still doing some testing ... but so far so good ...
thx for your support!
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Hi again, unfort. it stops playing after some time. When I click to play the whole album the first song plays through ... then the next file starts, plays about 10~20 seconds and then stops.
thx
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I disabled audio conversion and played an mp3: it stopped after the first file finished. The TV simply went back to the analog input (Receiver), no error messages in MC.
thx
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I disabled audio conversion and played an mp3: it stopped after the first file finished. The TV simply went back to the analog input (Receiver), no error messages in MC.
thx
You don't have it set to "stop after each file" in the repeat settings for the zone do you?
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When I first click on the Bravia Zone I can see it's set to "Repeat playing now".
When I click the second time the zone immediately disappers, then after a few seconds it appears ... and so on ...
thx
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Another observation: I started playing on my Bravia via WebRemote, the playing stopped after the first file. Opened MC to see that it's caught in an infinite loop still playing the first file from 0 to 5 seconds.
thx
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Another observation: I started playing on my Bravia via WebRemote, the playing stopped after the first file. Opened MC to see that it's caught in an infinite loop still playing the first file from 0 to 5 seconds.
thx
The 0-5 seconds thing is essentially the timeout for MC waiting for commands to complete. It's likely doing GetPosition calls and not getting a response.
I assume you are using a current version?
Let me try it again with our Bravia to make sure something hasn't gotten messed up.
If the TV gets confused you may have to power cycle it for it to work properly again. This seems to be a common problem with DLNA devices.
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Yes - power cycling the whole system helps ... but after each file :) ...
thx for your help.
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Yes - power cycling the whole system helps ... but after each file :) ...
thx for your help.
I just tried duplicating your scenario with 10 short mp3 files. Tried it set to convert always and not convert. Worked fine both ways. Is your MC both the controller and server?
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yes it is both server and controller.
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yes it is both server and controller.
Did this happen recently (perhaps with a specific version)? Wasn't it working properly for you a week or so ago?
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I only recently started testing, the thing that the TV disappears from MC I remember already happened in MC15 but I didn't bother since I wasn't using MC as a controller.
I'am going to try older version soon and let you know.
thx
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I captured an error, which shortly afterwards MC closes connection.
Can this have anything to do with my problem that the TV disappears and appears again?
The complete wireshark log is available if you wish so.
thx
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Ahja ... just a note: My TV definitely rejects audio volume setting via DLNA.
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