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Title: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: Vocalpoint on April 15, 2011, 11:01:03 am
Hello,

My MC library metadata heavily mimics my days in broadcast where as a album rock music director - it was my job to assemble my hourly clocks based upon category rotations....back in the day we had A's - being the hottest albums of the moment usually going 4 tracks deep at a minimum, then B's with a max of 2-3 tracks deep and C's had usually just one interesting track.

For my more modern approach today in MC - I use the ratings field to reflect the popularity of the tracks....

5 Stars = Hit #1 on a specific chart
4 Stars = Peaked between 10-2 on a specific chart
3 Stars = Peaked between 20-11 on a specific chart
2 Stars = Peaked between 40-21 on a specific chart
1 Star =  Peaked below 40 on any chart or is an album track of note.

These ratings apply to almost any song in my library and all (where applicable) have the relevant chart data (peak, chart name etc) tagged in.

So now - using the above - and assuming the fill rate is adequate - I am wanting to get a smartlist going that would:

1. Be 45 minutes in length (approx)
2. Using a specific chart (Mainstream Rock)
3. From years 1981-1990
4. With a single song from a single artist (no dupes of artist)
5. Using 4 songs with a 5 star rating
6. Using 4 songs with between 2-4 star ratings
7. Using 4 with just a single star rating.

Anyone have any ideas on how I would tackle this?

Appreciate any tips!

VP
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: mark_h on April 15, 2011, 11:13:44 am
You've broken down the request very neatly.  Each of those steps can pretty much be converted to a smartlist rule, but rather than write the smartlist for you (I don't have time right now), here are some tips:

Creating mixed results:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=24288.msg169446;topicseen#msg169446

Limiting results to subsets:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=19829

Limiting time:

~t=45m

Cheers,

Mark

Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: Vocalpoint on April 15, 2011, 11:21:03 am
You've broken down the request very neatly.  Each of those steps can pretty much be converted to a smartlist rule, but rather than write the smartlist for you (I don't have time right now), here are some tips:

Creating mixed results:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=24288.msg169446;topicseen#msg169446

Limiting results to subsets:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=19829

Limiting time:

~t=45m

Cheers,

Mark


Mark - thanks for the links...I can at least start messing around...never knew what those "limit" and "mix" items were for....

VP
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: MrC on April 15, 2011, 11:28:20 am
Some more help w/search, lists and limiters:

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlist_and_Search_-_Rules_and_Modifiers (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlist_and_Search_-_Rules_and_Modifiers)
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: Vocalpoint on April 15, 2011, 11:41:46 am
Some more help w/search, lists and limiters:

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlist_and_Search_-_Rules_and_Modifiers (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlist_and_Search_-_Rules_and_Modifiers)

Almost have something working...but what is the syntax for "limit" when I want a range of a rating between 2 and 4  :

20,50%,{[Rating]=5},50%,{[Rating]=>=2 AND <=4}

AND does not work...what am I missing here?

Appreciate any tippage!

VP
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: marko on April 15, 2011, 01:03:00 pm
unable to test right now, but try:

20,50%,{[Rating]=5},50%,{[Rating]=2,3,4}

I think it should work because that is how you would enter such a rule into the search field.

-marko
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: mark_h on April 15, 2011, 01:03:42 pm
[Rating]=2-4

The smartlist wizard helps a lot with entries like that...
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: Vocalpoint on April 15, 2011, 01:07:11 pm
[Rating]=2-4

The smartlist wizard helps a lot with entries like that...

What wizard? Is there another discovery I have not made? Or do you mean the Smartlist editor dialog?

VP
Title: Re: Smartlist Savvy? How to assemble a playlist using several "levels" of Ratings
Post by: Vocalpoint on April 15, 2011, 01:23:59 pm
Okay - I rock!

[Media Type]=[Audio] [Genre]=[Mainstream Rock] [Date (year)]=1981-1990 ~limit=-1,1,[Artist] ~mix=20,40%,{[Rating]=5},40%,{[Rating]=2-4},20%,{[Rating]=1}

Man - this is one cool piece of software.

Okay - now that I have this going - is it possible to have the list try to avoid putting too many 5 Stars in a row? Not that it's a bad thing...but I would like a better distribution of non-hits to super hits :)

VP