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Title: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 03, 2011, 01:32:29 pm
I have my primary installation of MC16 on my OSX box running in a VMWare virtual machine.  Playing back DVD's there results in horribly interlaced video, and I don't see anyway to add or turn on de-interlacing.  Am I missing something or is there no way with RO Standard to have deinterlacing in the mix?
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 08:48:37 am
Bump after long weekend:  Still looking for a way to use Red October and have it do deinterlacing.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BryanC on July 06, 2011, 09:00:35 am
You could use RO Standard + additional filters, add your ffdshow decoder of choice, and enable deinterlacing?
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: glynor on July 06, 2011, 11:00:02 am
Quote from: Bryanhoop on July 06, 2011, 09:00:35 am
You could use RO Standard + additional filters, add your ffdshow decoder of choice, and enable deinterlacing?

This is exactly right.

1. Switch to Red October with Additional Filters.
2. Configure the File Type you need to modify to use Playback Method: J River video engine (DirectShow)
3. Leave Source and Video Renderer set to Automatic
4. Add ffdshow Video Decoder as an Other Filter
5. Click the configure button and choose ffdshow Video Decoder from the pop-up.
6. Configure ffdshow as you'd like.  The Red October settings are saved as profiles in ffdshow, so you can use them as a basis for your modifications if you'd like.
7. Save your new profile in ffdshow as the default.  Alternatively, you can go to Options -> Startup -> Startup Actions -> Disable DirectShow filters' tray icons and set FFDShow to NO (then you'll get the normal ffdshow tray icon and can pick whatever profile you want on the fly).
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 12:42:59 pm
Maybe I am missing something, but there does not appear to be a way to add additional filters to type DVD Video (ifo,vob).

Under General Video Settings:
DirectShow selection method: Advanced - Red October with additional filters
Default video renderer: Automatic

Then under Decoders, Renderers, & More:
DVD Video (ifo,vob)
Playback Method:  JRiver video engine (using DirectShow filters)
Auto Decoders: Automatic
Video Decoders: Automatic
Video Renderer: Automatic
There is no 'Other filters' section

The choices for Video Decoder are:  Automatic, Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder, MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest).  The MPC choice with deinterlace set to auto doesn't do it either.

Edit - tried manually setting a deinterlace option under MPC and it didn't do it either.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BryanC on July 06, 2011, 02:02:54 pm
Dumb question, but do you have ffdshow 32-bit installed?
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 03:24:27 pm
Quote from: Bryanhoop on July 06, 2011, 02:02:54 pm
Dumb question, but do you have ffdshow 32-bit installed?

Yes, ffdshow 32-bit is installed.  Still can't see how to use it for VOB/IFO playback.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BryanC on July 06, 2011, 03:39:49 pm
I don't know, that's really strange.

You're looking here, right?:

(http://i.imgur.com/HrxVi.png)

Maybe try restarting your computer?
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 03:46:36 pm
Thanks for the screen shot - I did not initially have ffdshow installed when I started looking at this which is why it wasn't there when I made my notes earlier.  I do see the option for it there now.  Will play around and post back when I have it working for anyone else trying to accomplish the same thing.

Thanks.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 04:40:54 pm
I have chosen FFDShow as the Video Decoder and configured FFDShow for DVD Playback (assigned a decoder and checked the 'enable DVD playback button), but MC16 still doesn't use it.  Any other thoughts?  

Code: [Select]
Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'Line 21 Decoder'
        CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'XForm In'
            Connected to pin '~Line21 Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'XForm Out'

    Filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
        CLSID: {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
        Input Pin 'EVR Input2'

    Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
        Input Pin 'Video Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
            Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Output Pin '~Line21 Output'
            Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin '~Subpicture Output'

    Filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
        CLSID: {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
        Host: C:\Users\Bart\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 16\Plugins\lav\LAVAudio.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)' of filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'DVD Navigator'
        CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\qdvd.dll
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'AC3'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'SubPicture'
            Connected to pin 'Subpicture Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BryanC on July 06, 2011, 04:47:48 pm
I think libavcodec is broken for DVD playback. You might try switching to libmpeg2.

If that doesn't work, you could also enable to raw filter and do deinterlacing after the MS decoder.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 05:04:43 pm
Tried both libmpeg2 and libavcodec.  Even with Raw set to 'All Supported' it still isn't putting FFDShow in the loop
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Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'Line 21 Decoder'
        CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'XForm In'
            Connected to pin '~Line21 Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'XForm Out'

    Filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
        CLSID: {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
        Input Pin 'EVR Input2'

    Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
        Input Pin 'Video Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
            Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YUY2, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Output Pin '~Line21 Output'
            Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin '~Subpicture Output'

    Filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
        CLSID: {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
        Host: C:\Users\Bart\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 16\Plugins\lav\LAVAudio.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)' of filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'DVD Navigator'
        CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
        Host: c:\windows\syswow64\qdvd.dll
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'AC3'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'SubPicture'
            Connected to pin 'Subpicture Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BryanC on July 06, 2011, 07:27:16 pm
Are you using the newest version of ffdshow? Found here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/

Earlier builds may be blacklisted.

Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 07:42:34 pm
Yes, running that version.  Downloaded it earlier today.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: glynor on July 07, 2011, 10:18:01 am
Sorry.... I didn't read carefully enough and didn't realize that you were looking for DVD playback (should have read the subject line, at least).  ::)

I know Matt has had a LOT of issues with ffdshow handling DVD playback, and has never gotten it to work reliably, so ffdshow might be blacklisted in Red October (or "not whitelisted" which is actually how it works), which means you won't be able to use it currently.

I do also know this has been a recently requested addition, though, so it may be coming (or may have already happened).  We'd really need Matt to comment.  Bryanhoop would know better than I.

DVDs are not my thing.  I have no use for spinning plastic discs, and when I rip them, I rip them to MKVs or MP4s, so I don't have much/any experience in this area.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: xluorp on July 10, 2011, 10:03:34 am
Quote from: BartMan01 on July 06, 2011, 04:40:54 pm
I have chosen FFDShow as the Video Decoder and configured FFDShow for DVD Playback (assigned a decoder and checked the 'enable DVD playback button), but MC16 still doesn't use it.  Any other thoughts?  


This is the same issue that I have.  I want to use FFDshow to set video levels for DVD playback. The funny thing is that in the windows merit system it works fine.  I would also like to see FFDshow reenabled in Red October.

Mike
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Sandy B Ridge on August 25, 2011, 04:10:07 pm
Some VIDEO TS files look awful. This is a crop of a particularly bad one:

(https://files.me.com/amlyn/n7ievr)


Any motion in the movie is just horrible.

Any ideas on improvement? Would LAVCUVID help for VIDEO_TS files? (currently iGPU Intel HD3000)

SBR
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Matt on August 25, 2011, 08:55:11 pm
This is an old thread, so I'm not sure the original issue still applies.

On a Windows 7 machine, Red October Standard will use the Microsoft MPEG decoder with EVR.  This should provide basic hardware deinterlacing and look good.
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Sandy B Ridge on August 26, 2011, 04:06:19 am
Quote from: Matt on August 25, 2011, 08:55:11 pm
This is an old thread, so I'm not sure the original issue still applies.
My apologies. I read the thread and seemed pertinent to my problem. The last two posts before mine didn't seem to suggest the issue was resolved. Happy to start another thread if that is appropriate.

Quote
On a Windows 7 machine, Red October Standard will use the Microsoft MPEG decoder with EVR.  This should provide basic hardware deinterlacing and look good.
Does h/w deinterlacing work on sandybridge HD3000 GPU? I get the same result with ROSTD and ROHQ. Something isn't right. It doesn't look good - as shown in the screencap. I have tried with both Use hardware acceleration if possible option checked and unchecked. Any chance of adding a s/w deinterlace in the filter graph eg. ffdshow yadif as the h/w deinterlace clearly isn't working.

SBR
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Sandy B Ridge on August 26, 2011, 06:01:52 pm
It seems that EVR does h/w deinterlacing via DXVA and this implementation is particularly flaky on SandyBridge. I'll have to roll back a few drivers to see if any at all have some form of DXVA.

SBR
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Sandy B Ridge on August 29, 2011, 04:30:08 pm
I'm puzzled by this DVD.

The RO (both HQ and standard) from playing the Video_TS file shows as above post.

If I copy the VOB file and rename it into a mpg, I thought I could trick MC into using ROHQ, MadVR and yadif deinterlacing in ffdshow, and I certainly can, although the result is no better:

(https://files.me.com/amlyn/se9j7t)

Here's the MadVR OSD:

(https://files.me.com/amlyn/2gp09i)

So it seems that this disc fails with both h/w and software deinterlacing?

Here's the graph for ROHQ reading the mpg copy :

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Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
        CLSID: {A4002F8E-510F-442C-8AD3-F9C7B23FB394}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Subtitle Renderer'
        CLSID: {F74E834C-9C98-43ED-89B1-19A9DF82E774}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Subtitle' of filter 'LAV Source Splitter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Text  Sub type TIME_FORMAT_NONE, Format type TIME_FORMAT_NONE

    Filter 'madVR'
        CLSID: {E1A8B82A-32CE-4B0D-BE0D-AA68C772E423}
        Host: C:\Users\Lounge\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 16\Plugins\madvr\madvr.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

    Filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder (auto-configured)'
        CLSID: {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
        Host: C:\Users\Lounge\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 16\Plugins\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'madVR'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'In Text'

    Filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
        CLSID: {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
        Host: C:\Users\Lounge\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 16\Plugins\lav\LAVAudio.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'LAV Source Splitter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
        CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Audio' of filter 'LAV Source Splitter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'LAV Audio Decoder (auto-configured)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'LAV Source Splitter'
        CLSID: {B98D13E7-55DB-4385-A33D-09FD1BA26338}
        Host: C:\Users\Lounge\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 16\Plugins\lav\LAVSplitter.ax
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Video Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Audio'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Audio Monitor'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Subtitle'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'JRiver Subtitle Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Text  Sub type TIME_FORMAT_NONE, Format type TIME_FORMAT_NONE
I think the problem may be with the tags in the file itself as Mediainfo states that this is a progressive file, but clearly isn't?

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General
Complete name                    : C:\Users\Lounge\Desktop\New folder\VTS_04_1.mpg
Format                           : MPEG-PS
File size                        : 123 MiB
Duration                         : 1mn 52s
Overall bit rate                 : 9 117 Kbps

Video
ID                               : 224 (0xE0)
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, Matrix          : Custom
Duration                         : 1mn 52s
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 8 743 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.843
Stream size                      : 118 MiB (96%)

Audio
ID                               : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode                      : DVD-Video
Duration                         : 1mn 52s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 2.58 MiB (2%)
Bizarre? Can anyone explain what is going on here? Would a clever deinterlacer with 'pulldown' detection save the day?

SBR
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Matt on August 29, 2011, 05:13:09 pm
Maybe it's a progressive DVD, where they mastered it from interlaced material and did a bad job?
Title: Re: DVD Playback with RO-Standard, any way to turn on deinterlacing?
Post by: Sandy B Ridge on August 29, 2011, 05:28:38 pm
Quote from: Matt on August 29, 2011, 05:13:09 pm
Maybe it's a progressive DVD, where they mastered it from interlaced material and did a bad job?

How can I tell?

Is there a way of differentiating an interlaced clip which is incorrectly tagged with progressive, and a bad progressive clip mastered from badly deinterlaced material?

SBR