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More => Old Versions => Media Jukebox => Topic started by: JarkkoK on July 14, 2011, 11:08:23 pm

Title: Max file amount reached?
Post by: JarkkoK on July 14, 2011, 11:08:23 pm
I have 35 000+ mp3's in my library of which about a third are 320 kbps ie. large files. Recently I have noticed that MJ is reacting to my doubleclicking on songs slower than before. It might take up to 2-3 seconds before a song starts to play. This is when I have had MJ open already and used it for a while. Sometimes when I open MJ it might take up to 20 seconds before the first song starts to play after I have clicked it. My files are on a buffalo network drive.

My question is: Am I reaching some max file amount or is it something else?

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Media Jukebox 14.0.166 C:\Program Files\J River Media Jukebox 14\

Microsoft Windows Vista 6.0 Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)
Intel Pentium III 2332 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 2097 MB, Free - 1069 MB (ACTUALLY IT HAS 4GB MEMORY)

Internet Explorer: 9.0.8112.16421 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82.6002 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.0.6002 / Shell32.dll: 6.0.6002 / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive X: Optiarc DVD RW AD-5240S   Mode:ModeSecure  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 100
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive X: Optiarc  DVD RW AD-5240S    Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:48  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: No /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
  Use playback settings: No /

Portable Device Info
  Removed devices:

Interface Plugins:
  last.fm (Active)
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: kensn on July 14, 2011, 11:17:41 pm
Could it be a drive spinning up??
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: JarkkoK on July 14, 2011, 11:18:32 pm
Continued: When rating songs, it (nowadays) usually takes a couple seconds before the rating "sticks". It used to be faster...
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: JarkkoK on July 14, 2011, 11:19:59 pm
Could it be a drive spinning up??
But if I'm listening to songs all the time, moving from song to another by clicking (sometimes often), I would think the drive is already spinning..?
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: MrC on July 15, 2011, 12:16:18 am
Any antivirus software running?

It will intercept MJ's requests for disk file reads (so it can scan the file), and can cause delays.
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: JarkkoK on July 15, 2011, 12:19:54 am
Any antivirus software running?

Of course, yes.

It will intercept MJ's requests for disk file reads (so it can scan the file), and can cause delays.

Ok, this sounds like a logical possible reason, since the file size will also have an effect...
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: MrC on July 15, 2011, 12:22:32 am
Try setting the A/V software to ignore real-time scanning of the MJ processes.  There are two I believe, the MJ exe itself and JRworker.exe.  Also have it not real-time scan your media directories.
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: JarkkoK on July 15, 2011, 12:26:50 am
Try setting the A/V software to ignore real-time scanning of the MJ processes.  There are two I believe, the MJ exe itself and JRworker.exe.  Also have it not real-time scan your media directories.

Immediate success! Thanks you very much for the help.
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: MrC on July 15, 2011, 12:28:04 am
Outstanding!
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: JarkkoK on July 16, 2011, 12:30:47 pm
...or so I thought.

The exclusions are still there in antivirus app but now every problem mentioned seems to be there again.
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: MrC on July 16, 2011, 07:53:10 pm
One immediate thought comes to mind - the A/V scanner may be distinguishing versions of MC.  You could try deleting the exclusions (app and directory) and re-adding.
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: BNJMN on July 25, 2011, 11:37:05 am
Just to address the 'max file issue' briefly.
I've used Jukebox with 400k+ files.


There was no significant slow down.
I did notice what you're talking about  though. A little.
Sometimes I'd click on the 'Search' function and have to wait a good 15-20 seconds before I could type...

Etc.

Anyways, I don't think there's a cut-off limit to # of files.
Interested in MrC's response.


Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: MrC on July 25, 2011, 12:12:12 pm
Interested in MrC's response.

I don't have any inside knowledge about file limits.  Folks and devs here have indicated there are not issues with large libraries.  MCs db is very fast.

Some things to consider:

1) check your Power Options control panel for disk spin down time.  Once  you start playing a track, it likely is entirely in memory shortly thereafter; therefore, and long track might allow a disk to go back into low power/sleep mode.

2) disable A/V software, as a test, entirely.  It would take volumes to explain just how intrusive this stuff is, and how it can negatively affect Windows.  It is mind-bogglingly complex and fickle.

3) defragment the disk(s).  A fragmented disk, especially a full one, can wreak havoc on performance.

4) check eventvwr.exe (Event Viewer) for important errors indicating problems, especially with the disk I/O chain (disk, controller, etc.).  A bad disk or controller can cause long pauses while it times out.  (I just had a CD/DVD drive become flaky, and its long access timeouts cause ALL of Windows to slow to a crawl.)
Title: Re: Max file amount reached?
Post by: BNJMN on July 26, 2011, 01:24:57 am
Well,funny thing, the j rivers app seems to be the only one going slow.
Sometimes slower than other times. (For instance, the last 4 days it's been ridiculously slow!)
:(
I have no problem refreshing pages or 'surfing the net'.
Or opening other applications.

Maybe if I free up space.
Or get (even moar) memory...as you've suggested.

EDIT:
I'm going to try other options as I cannot wait 10-20 seconds between tasks.
Or waste 15 hours a week trying to find a solution.

Bye bye, Bloatware!