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Windows => Television => Topic started by: imugli on October 21, 2011, 08:18:47 am

Title: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 21, 2011, 08:18:47 am: Hi Guys,

Since one of the later versions of 16 (and now in v17.20) I've been experiencing a weird problem when attempting to record TV.

If I'm watching TV and choose to record the program (or a prescheduled recording starts on the channel I'm watching), the video freezes (audio continues).
It records (because I can go into Shows and then watch it AFTER I've stopped recording), just cannot watch it WHILE it's recording.

HOWEVER

If I activate recording in standard view, THEN go to watch the program, things are fine.
Similarly, all scheduled recordings play back fine.

This happens with both jtv and ts recording.

Using RO Std, transparency turned off, latest Tuner card drivers available.

Any idea what might be causing this?

Cheers,

J.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: Yaobing on October 21, 2011, 09:11:10 am: Do you watch TV in Standard View or Theater View?
Title: Re: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 21, 2011, 03:54:54 pm: Thanks Yaobing.

Theatre view.

I can replicate and send logs if you like?
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: Yaobing on October 21, 2011, 05:41:37 pm: Yes, please send a log as I do not see the same issue on my computer.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 23, 2011, 08:00:10 am: Have emailed the logs, and here is the filter / graph info

Quote
KSCATEGORY_BDA_NETWORK_TUNER filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 BDA DVBT Tuner
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{dbadd217-e935-4148-bab7-4cc346d15300}
Input Pin 'Input0'
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 BDA DVBT Tuner (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{dbadd217-e935-4148-bab7-4cc346d15301}
Input Pin 'Input0'
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'

KSCATEGORY_BDA_RECEIVER_COMPONENT filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 BDA Digital Capture DVBT
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{b3e3d165-54eb-4b9e-a805-1756644fa400}
Input Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 BDA Digital Capture DVBT (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{b3e3d165-54eb-4b9e-a805-1756644fa401}
Input Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'

AM_KSCATEGORY_CAPTURE filters

Realtek HD Audio Line input
@device:pnp:\\?\hdaudio#func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0887&subsys_10438427&rev_1002#4&10e7b7be&0&0001#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\rtlineinwave
Output Pin 'Recording Control'
Input Pin 'Input1'

Realtek HD Audio Mic input
@device:pnp:\\?\hdaudio#func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0887&subsys_10438427&rev_1002#4&10e7b7be&0&0001#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\rtmicinwave
Output Pin 'Recording Control'
Input Pin 'Input1'

Realtek HD Audio Stereo input
@device:pnp:\\?\hdaudio#func_01&ven_10ec&dev_0887&subsys_10438427&rev_1002#4&10e7b7be&0&0001#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\rtstereomixwave
Output Pin 'Recording Control'
Input Pin 'Input1'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bd5b5aea-2141-48a8-8758-f0cf5e0bc800}
Output Pin 'I2S Audio'
Output Pin 'Analog ITU Video'
Output Pin 'VBI'
Input Pin 'Analog Video In'
Input Pin 'Analog Audio'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{65e8773d-8f56-11d0-a3b9-00a0c9223196}\{bd5b5aea-2141-48a8-8758-f0cf5e0bc801}
Output Pin 'I2S Audio'
Output Pin 'Analog ITU Video'
Output Pin 'VBI'
Input Pin 'Analog Video In'
Input Pin 'Analog Audio'

KSCATEGORY_ENCODER filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 TS Encoder/Mux
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{19689bf6-c384-48fd-ad51-90e58c79f70b}\{3c32b394-2ee6-4967-a00b-62d0296ce100}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 TS Encoder/Mux (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{19689bf6-c384-48fd-ad51-90e58c79f70b}\{3c32b394-2ee6-4967-a00b-62d0296ce101}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{19689bf6-c384-48fd-ad51-90e58c79f70b}\{f51e57d9-f540-47d5-8892-7e935dc42a00}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 PS'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{19689bf6-c384-48fd-ad51-90e58c79f70b}\{f51e57d9-f540-47d5-8892-7e935dc42a01}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 PS'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

KSCATEGORY_MULTIPLEXER filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 TS Encoder/Mux
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{7a5de1d3-01a1-452c-b481-4fa2b96271e8}\{3c32b394-2ee6-4967-a00b-62d0296ce100}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 TS Encoder/Mux (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{7a5de1d3-01a1-452c-b481-4fa2b96271e8}\{3c32b394-2ee6-4967-a00b-62d0296ce101}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{7a5de1d3-01a1-452c-b481-4fa2b96271e8}\{f51e57d9-f540-47d5-8892-7e935dc42a00}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 PS'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{7a5de1d3-01a1-452c-b481-4fa2b96271e8}\{f51e57d9-f540-47d5-8892-7e935dc42a01}
Output Pin 'MPEG2 PS'
Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'

AM_KSCATEGORY_CROSSBAR filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{a799a801-a46d-11d0-a18c-00a02401dcd4}\{f01fac32-e9d5-4ac9-a288-9bc50cb4ce00}
Input Pin '0: Video Tuner In'
Input Pin '1: Audio Tuner In'
Input Pin '2: Video Composite In'
Input Pin '3: Video SVideo In'
Input Pin '4: Audio Line In'
Input Pin '5: Video Composite In'
Input Pin '6: Video SVideo In'
Input Pin '7: Audio Line In'
Output Pin '0: Video Decoder Out'
Output Pin '1: Audio Decoder Out'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{a799a801-a46d-11d0-a18c-00a02401dcd4}\{f01fac32-e9d5-4ac9-a288-9bc50cb4ce01}
Input Pin '0: Video Tuner In'
Input Pin '1: Audio Tuner In'
Input Pin '2: Video Composite In'
Input Pin '3: Video SVideo In'
Input Pin '4: Audio Line In'
Input Pin '5: Video Composite In'
Input Pin '6: Video SVideo In'
Input Pin '7: Audio Line In'
Output Pin '0: Video Decoder Out'
Output Pin '1: Audio Decoder Out'

AM_KSCATEGORY_TVTUNER filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Tuner
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{a799a800-a46d-11d0-a18c-00a02401dcd4}\{e7624e1b-0f75-4048-b65d-f51fb3131500}
Output Pin 'Analog Video'
Output Pin 'Analog Audio'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Tuner (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{a799a800-a46d-11d0-a18c-00a02401dcd4}\{e7624e1b-0f75-4048-b65d-f51fb3131501}
Output Pin 'Analog Video'
Output Pin 'Analog Audio'

AM_KSCATEGORY_TVAUDIO filters

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Audio
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{a799a802-a46d-11d0-a18c-00a02401dcd4}\{3b698eb3-75d1-4363-a44d-ccd085530500}
Input Pin 'TVAudio In'
Output Pin 'TVAudio Out'

Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Audio (1)
@device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7164&subsys_89800070&rev_81#4&33c6b065&0&0060#{a799a802-a46d-11d0-a18c-00a02401dcd4}\{3b698eb3-75d1-4363-a44d-ccd085530501}
Input Pin 'TVAudio In'
Output Pin 'TVAudio Out'

AM_KSCATEGORY_VBICODEC filters

MPEG2 Multiplexer filters

The current log should also demonstrate another problem I'm having whereby audio is sometimes not started when I start watching TV. Have to stop and restart it to get audio.

Thanks again Yaobing.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 25, 2011, 08:20:27 am: Hi Yaobing,

Any word on this?

Cheers,

J.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: Yaobing on October 25, 2011, 08:50:57 am: Sorry, I have not gotten to it yet.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 25, 2011, 08:57:24 am: No need to apologise - I aappreciate you're a busy man ;D

J.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: rpalmer68 on October 25, 2011, 06:49:34 pm: I experienced the same issue today, kids were watching live TV and the program they were watching started to be recorded.

The OSD came up with "Recording" and the picture froze but sound continued.

I stopped playback and tried to play TV again and I then got a black screen with sound only.

This was on MC17.22

Didn't get a log I'm afraid.

Richard
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 25, 2011, 08:01:03 pm: Yep, this is what's heppaning for me. Glad to hear I'm not imagining things :-)
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: rpalmer68 on October 25, 2011, 08:03:42 pm: Quote from: imugli on October 25, 2011, 08:01:03 pm
Yep, this is what's heppaning for me. Glad to hear I'm not imagining things :-)

Sometimes it's good to know you're not alone :)
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: davhj on October 26, 2011, 04:47:32 am: Same problem here (DVB-T in Australia) but, in addition, the channel being recorded is not the original channel being watched (but both on the same overall network).

If for example ABC 1 is being watched (and supposedly being recorded), another ABC channel (News 24) is actually being recorded. This can only be seen when playing back the recording.

I record programs on Windows Media Center at the moment, so I have only done a few quick tests using JRiver (which I happily use for everything else except recording TV). Each time a different channel to that being watched, on the same network, is recorded.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: Yaobing on October 28, 2011, 11:44:11 am: Do you all record in ts format? Do you see the same problem when recoding in jtv format?
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: rpalmer68 on October 28, 2011, 03:06:51 pm: I only use jtv format.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: davhj on October 28, 2011, 04:58:41 pm: Yes, ts format.

Switching to jtv fixes the wrong channel problem but not the freezing problem.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on October 28, 2011, 05:04:45 pm: This is happening both in jtv and ts formats for me.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on November 03, 2011, 04:43:01 am: This is still happening in the new version. Also, when i go into "Shows" and watch it, I can now watch it (after a couple of seconds of sound but no picture) but the picture has this white flickering going on... Could this be codec related possibly?
Title: Re: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on November 10, 2011, 04:09:09 am: Flickering problem was interlacing but the recording issue is STILL happening in 17.31.
Title: Re: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: Yaobing on November 18, 2011, 06:23:54 pm: Quote from: imugli on November 10, 2011, 04:09:09 am
Flickering problem was interlacing but the recording issue is STILL happening in 17.31.

Build 38 is out. Please try it and see if there is any improvement. I made a small change but did not put it in history of changes because I was not sure if it would fix anything.
Title: Re: Weird recording problem
Post by: imugli on December 03, 2011, 04:10:36 pm: Hi Yaobing,

Looks like it has been solved, however am still having this problem...

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68042.0

Basically, after fast forwarding or rewinding, the video stutters for a few seconds (sometimes up to approx. 40 seconds) but the audio plays as normal. End result is the sound is ahead of the video, sometimes by quite some way.