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Title: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on February 12, 2012, 03:23:35 pm
Hi,
I have my computer in the room next to my TV
the computer has its own monitor and the TV is connected with a long HDMI cable.
Is it possible when switching to theater view to have this on the TV and normal view on the computer?
I'm not sure how to setup the tv, like with audio i was looking for an output destination but I cant seem to find any.
should the TV be setup as an extended monitor? or can it be somehow selected from within JRiver?

using an ati HD6950  and a Panasonic P42ST30

I cant see my tv from my computer so some part of setup from catalyst  control panel can be dificult

any tips or suggestions welcome
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on February 12, 2012, 03:55:12 pm
ok seem to find something that will work with extended monitor

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=66983.0

located in tree & view

still a lot to sort out tho

Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: CountryBumkin on February 13, 2012, 04:25:56 am
What about setting up "zones" in MC?
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: imugli on February 13, 2012, 06:47:30 am
You can have multiple instances of MC run at the same time -

Tools > Options > General > Advanced > Allow Multiple Instances

So you could run one instance on the TV (an extended desktop as you said) and the other on your monitor.

But then you have the question of how to control it...
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on February 14, 2012, 05:13:29 pm
I was hoping the hdmi was selectable as ouput like you would use an firewire out for video preview in video-edit software independent of the windows desktop

multiple instances wont be an solution

I'm controlling it with JRemote on my iphone.
with the Options > Tree & View > Full Screen > Monitor 2
picture will move to the living room.

for audio all works great for video everything is still a little messy

for example, I still have some trouble  automatically switching to the right frame-rate
not sure why there is no 24 or 23 fps selectable in display settings (its there in catalyst control center)


I asume for now 60 fps is the best other option for 24 (ish) vids

and its hard to organize the series it seems like I would need to manually fix a lot of tags
unless i will somehow grasp how to use fill tags from filenames better  sofar i'm not sure what strings to use

for now directly browsing to the folder structure will get me to actualy find what i'm looking for

(also it seems JRiver took the liberty to write thumbnail pics inside my video folders wich make browsing on my netgear ntv550 messy because now every title is displayed twice)

for video there is a lot of work...
if anyone has tips how to enable the missing framerates in the menu i'd be glad to hear.
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: JimH on February 14, 2012, 05:56:32 pm
The tag you want to edit is called FPS.  Frames per second.
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on February 16, 2012, 09:43:51 am
The tag you want to edit is called FPS.  Frames per second.
thanks for your reply

al the tags seem to carry an value for fps

If I look in catalyst control 24fps is selectable but to make it work for "enable automatic dispay settings changing" (video> display settings)  it needs to be selectable in the drop down list next to the Film entries
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on April 10, 2012, 01:54:28 pm
had let the topic rest for a while. all drivers and jriver updated to latest versions same problem persists
no option for 23 and 24 fps in Mediacenter

options in ati catalyst
(http://i.imgur.com/S9HeV.png)

options in MC
(http://i.imgur.com/cfmij.png)
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: CountryBumkin on April 10, 2012, 02:05:24 pm
What about Tools>Options>Video>Display Settings?

Edit: Your posted images were blocked from my work computer. The screen you show is where I was referring to. However I get the 24fps (and 23) setting. I just can't catch that view in the "snip".
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on April 10, 2012, 02:07:18 pm
those options are listed in the 2nd picture its missing the 23 and 24 fps options
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on April 10, 2012, 02:22:42 pm
I've been nosing around some more it seems my pc monitor itself does not support 24p (its a standard 1080p samsung lcd)
could it be MC somehow scans the options for my computer monitor and after that disregards the fps options the tv has?
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: CountryBumkin on April 10, 2012, 06:00:05 pm
Maybe try this program to confirm what your display can or cannot do.
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm


I have a Samsung LCD and get this:
CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

However, I still get the "23fps" setting/choice in MC.
Title: Re: Need setup help for hdmi to tv
Post by: EJR on April 11, 2012, 09:47:13 am
for the panasonic TV

Code: [Select]
CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001


for the samsung
Code: [Select]
Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     800 x  600p at  56Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1280 x  800p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  960p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x  900p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1680 x 1050p at  60Hz - VESA STD

samsung seems to have limited info and is missing resolutions tho the 1080p works fine