Post by: Nikolay on May 06, 2002, 01:32:56 pm
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaJukebox8Upgrade.exe
WARNING: This is beta software, do not download and install it if you are not sure of your abilities to deal with bugs.
Please backup your library and your license.
History:
1. Changed: Visualization quality (scaling) moved to main right-click menu.
2. Fixed: (finally) "Next playlist" command from remote would skip over smartlists.
3. Fixed: More accurate response for remote controls (less button "bounce").
4. Fixed: Tab order in some settings dialogs.
5. Changed: Made play button mode for visible files have "all" and "selected" choice.
6. Changed: Deleting files from Playing Now much smarter. (no more aggressive update)
7. Fixed: MJ would check the filter state AFTER it checked if the file could be found.
8. Fixed: Media Library view schemes could become invalid when viewing by numeric fields that had spaces in them.
9. Fixed: MJ would always switch to "Playing Now" when returning from mini-me.
10. Fixed: Double-clicking on a tree item to start playback with shuffle enabled, would always play the first track first. (again)
11. Fixed: Deleting files from the mini-me playlist would not work.
12. Fixed: Media Jukebox could slowly leak GDI resources.
13. Fixed: Package Installer would not install some packages correctly.
14. Changed: MJ will do a more aggressive sound card flush on "stop".
15. Changed: Default file naming rule (for ripping and recording) changed to "TRACK# - NAME" from "ARTIST - ALBUM - TRACK# - NAME"
16. Fixed: Pathnames that exceed the windows maximum length will be truncated when ripping/recording.
Post by: ZRocker on May 06, 2002, 02:09:22 pm
Post by: Alonso Nefarious on May 06, 2002, 02:13:31 pm
Also it would be nice if the volume slider got larger because it is short and therefore hard to use. Think about it, most folks use the volume slider much more than the track position slider, yet the volume slider is smaller, and can't be adjusted, while the track position slider adjusts with window width.
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.266
CPU: Intel Pentium III 548 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 261 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows NT Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6 (Build 1381)
Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shell32.dll: 4.00
wnaspi32.dll: 4.70 , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2001 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.7
Post by: mphorton on May 06, 2002, 02:17:02 pm
I wonder if that's true. Never touch the volume slider myself (it's set to 100% and I adjust the volume via the speakers), but I use the track position routinely.
Post by: Matt on May 06, 2002, 02:26:29 pm
1. Fixed: New "smarter" Playing Now deletion wasn't so smart in release mode.
-Matt
Post by: vcolombo on May 06, 2002, 04:24:51 pm
Thanks,
Vince
Post by: shelly on May 06, 2002, 04:34:51 pm
2. I think this has been reported before, but the track position slider is not in sequence with the track being played. The bar returns to the start position during the last 2-4 seconds of track play and the counter indicates
"-4", "-3", etc.
3. I've asked this before but have not received a response - has the "artist info" function not yet been enabled? It only produces an empty page when clicked on.
Post by: Skiinyfatz on May 06, 2002, 04:46:28 pm
Post by: JimH on May 06, 2002, 04:48:45 pm
The full version (9MB) is a build behind this one. That will continue for the next couple of weeks until we release 8.0.
Post by: KingSparta on May 06, 2002, 04:49:39 pm
this may have something to do with CDDB
Post by: TBone on May 06, 2002, 04:59:29 pm
Any ideas?
Thanks,
T
Post by: Skinnyfatz on May 06, 2002, 04:59:57 pm
Post by: shelly on May 06, 2002, 05:02:28 pm
I thought that it could be CDDB or even my discs, but the strange thing is, that as soon as I reboot, the disc is read accurately. This is also the first time, that instead of being kicked out of MJ, MJ freezes and the title bar indicates "not responding."
Post by: JimH on May 06, 2002, 05:06:36 pm
If you want the latest build, it will be an upgrade only. If it's stable, we may put the full build on the downloads page a day or two or three later.
Post by: LCtheDJ on May 06, 2002, 05:09:43 pm
Toolbar buttons keep resizing smaller so that text on them is shorted: "Import Me..." instead of "Import Media"; "Media Libr...".
I get 2-3 seconds lag on redraw from Playing Now to Playlist. One time I got a music drop-out at the same time! (with performance slider set at mid point)
Post by: JimH on May 06, 2002, 05:21:08 pm
Which skin? Is it the same on others? How about without skins?
Post by: LCtheDJ on May 06, 2002, 05:39:13 pm
I still get a click just before the music when starting playback from Stopped. It does this when mouse click is on the play button or Next or Previous.
That brings me back to an old peeve of mine. The player should not play until I hit the play button. If the player is stopped and I hit the Next or Previous button, I should get only Next or Previous; not Next & Play or Previous & Play. It makes it real tough to silently queue up a track when it behaves that way. If I was only enjoying the music by myself it wouldn't be such a big deal to me; but when I'm playing for a hundred people, I don't want them hearing my player jump the gun.
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.266
CPU: AMD Athlon 905 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 356 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000 Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 1 (Build 2195)
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.4718
wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1008) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1997 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.57 (1008)
nVidia GeForce3 Ti 200 with driver 6.13.10.2832, display at 1024 x 768.
Post by: vcolombo on May 06, 2002, 05:39:59 pm
1) When viewing a CD, if you press F5 to do a refresh it takes you to Playing Now. This also happens if you choose Rip CD then cancel it.
2) Renaming a CD by right clicking on the CD icon and choosing Rename from the menu doesn't change the album name in the track listing (for the individual tracks).
3) Renaming a CD by right clicking on the CD icon and choosing Rename, then editing the name causes an additional drive letter to be tacked on. For example, in my drive right now is "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs (Disc 1) (G
(G (G" after renaming it twice. That's supposed to be the drive listing, not a smiley but I can't seem to get rid of the smiley.4) Just a cosmetic thing, but in the tool bar it says "Rip CD", if you right click on a track it says "Rip (Copy)...", and if you right click on the actual CD icon in the tree it says "CD Copy". This should be consistent.
Vince
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.266
CPU: AMD Athlon 1595 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 542 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 (Build 2600)
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
wnaspi32.dll: 4.70 , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2001 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.7
Post by: shelly on May 06, 2002, 06:03:15 pm
Post by: nyc-ink on May 06, 2002, 06:11:37 pm
Brian
Post by: vcolombo on May 06, 2002, 06:14:08 pm
While I'm at it, MJ also crashes on me when I try to analyze replay gain on a group of files. I've tried it with 10 files and I've tried it with over 2000 selected and it happens either way. Once I was able to make it through a group of about 160 tracks without it crashing.
Vince
Post by: Skinnyfatz on May 06, 2002, 06:21:47 pm
Nice to see ya back. Been a while.Listening to: 'Hell Freezes Over ' by 'The Eagles' on Media Jukebox
Post by: MattRensing on May 06, 2002, 07:33:41 pm
MJ occasionally locks up my system during playback; completely locks, such that use of the power switch is required. The exact timing of it appears to be a fairly random distribution. On average, I get this 1-2 hours into use, though certainly not every time. A little experimentation has shown that it is not MJ itself (I can leave MJ playing all day if I'm not actively using my computer, and it never suffers any problems). I've noted two programs that I have been using when it does lock up: Internet Explorer and Gamespy Arcade. I'd completely write off the Gamespy problem as an issue with their notoriously difficult software, but IE seems a bit suspect. Also, I don't experience problems such as these when not using MJ. Again, I fully recognize that a release is impending and don't expect that this can be addressed, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.
As a second, possibly more fixable issue...
The gradient settings for the Super Scope visualization do not appear to function correctly. First noticed this with the Rainbow Cycle setting; it seems to fade to black periodically, but not periodic with the actual cycling of the colors. If you consider three major colors in the cycle (Green, Red, Blue), it will appear every fourth color (i.e. I see Green, Red, Blue, Green, Fade to black, Blue, Green, Red, Blue, Fade to Black, Red, Blue, Green, Red, Fade to Black, etc.). Playing more with it, I noticed other problems with the gradient setting. Setting it just to 0xFF0000 (pure red, in theory), results in a pure blue image (no fading to black). Setting the blob oscilloscope to this same value results in pure red. Green works correctly (0x00FF00), and of course theoretical blue shows up as red (0x0000FF).
Thanks for all the hard work,
Matt
Post by: apollumi on May 06, 2002, 07:50:53 pm
Post by: vcolombo on May 06, 2002, 09:26:42 pm
Oh well, that's what I get for using a beta to actually do stuff.Oh, and I had to download WinAmp to try playing the files, I don't normally use it.
Vince
Post by: apollumi on May 06, 2002, 09:57:34 pm
Post by: WolfA on May 06, 2002, 10:16:24 pm
Bug in 8.0.265beta - CD names not shown correctly
Still the process of reading the content of MP3 CDs is not real good. If
a CD, that shows up in the explorer as 'Complete_CDs_01', is read, the
section File Location shows (0x5601E92A) and the section CD and DVD media a
CD named 'unassigned'. If I add mores CDs, it still shows a single
'unassigned' folder instead of the real name of the CD. Out of 5 CDs
'Complete_CDs_01' through 'Complete_CDs_05' only the last showed with
correct name under CD and DVD media.
To show the content of a specific CD is therefore not straight forward!
Can this be changed?
My system: NT 4.0 with all SPs, 500 Mhz PIII, 198MB RAM
Regards, Wolfgang
Post by: JohnT on May 07, 2002, 05:40:09 am
Shelly-
Regarding item #1 in my above post: The problem with MJ freezing while gathering track info, only occurs when the cd is inserted in my PlexWriter 16/10/40A. I'm not experiencing the same problem with my Pioneer DVD drive.
If you rip a CD (that hasn't been ripped before) on the Pioneer drive, then try to rip the same one on the PlexWriter, does it work ok? Do you have the freezing problem on the PlexWriter whether "enable CDDB" is checked or not?
- John T.
Post by: paulj on May 07, 2002, 07:05:56 am
After a clean reboot, when trying to rip a CD. The machine crashes with a general blue screen error while analyzing devices. There is no indication on the error screen to the cause.
If I first read the CD using Audiograbber by connecting to cddb. Then immediately exit audiograbber and load up MJ, the rip works fine. It's as if MJ can't initialize the ASPI correctly. It needs another program to to it first. This started happening with 8.0.265.
MJ version 8.0.266
XP Pro
Pioneer 7200i CDR
Post by: bennyd on May 07, 2002, 07:18:53 am
Post by: Severian on May 07, 2002, 07:20:23 am
Post by: empii on May 07, 2002, 07:23:44 am
1. I click on plug-in link on plugins page.
2. I got MJ 8 small window (WindowTitle: Downloading; Package: Web Remote; Status: Connecting...; Progress [blank])
3. On top of window from step 2 the following window pops up(WindowTitle: MJReader; [Exclamation icon] Failed to connect to a server; [OK button])
I'm running WinXP and IE6 on a machine behind the firewall. In MJ 7 you were using IE engine to download stuff. Then I was prompted for proxy login/password. Since I upgraded to MJ 8 - it is not working.
Best regards,
Maris
P.S. I believe MJ is a great product and I definetly will buy it when it's going to be released.
Post by: JGourd on May 07, 2002, 08:40:35 am
Post by: ZRocker on May 07, 2002, 09:26:25 am
MJ does not (has never) supported reading CD Text on *any* CD-Rom drive...to the best of my knowledge MJ can only burn CD Text on some CD-RW drives (but not read CD Text).
Update:
Looks like MJ does support CD Text in a limited fashion.
Post by: JohnT on May 07, 2002, 09:52:57 am
1. check the MJ database to see if the CD is already there
2. if not, check the cdplayer.ini file in the windows directory
3. if not in cdplayer.ini, check if there's cd-text information that can be extracted from the CD
4. if it can't get cd-text, do a CDDB lookup if the user has enabled it
5. otherwise punt (track01, track02, etc.)
I'm hoping to support cd-text reading without aspi soon, but the NT scsi pass through interface has been stubborn. Hopefully it will be working a couple builds from now.
- John T.
Post by: KingSparta on May 07, 2002, 09:54:14 am
Post by: JGourd on May 07, 2002, 10:36:59 am
Post by: Matt on May 07, 2002, 11:14:09 am
>2) Renaming a CD by right clicking on the CD icon and choosing Rename from the menu doesn't change the album name in the track listing (for the individual tracks).
The volume name and album name are separate. That way, both CD's from The Wall can have "The Wall" as the album, but the discs can be named "The Wall (disc 1)" and "The Wall (disc 2)" so MJ can ask for the right disc. Does that mess make any sense?
> Ok, I'm ripping some CDs in high quality VBR and they're all showing up as 128
Bitrate and quality are different. Could that explain it? Are you using the "MP3 Encoder" (LAME) included with MJ?
Shelly
>1. Every 3-4 cd's that I insert cause MJ to lock up while attempting to read the data, forcing a hard boot. This has not occured in any prior build.
If you give it 5 minutes, will it come around? Do you have "Search in subfolders" enabled in Device settings?
LCtheDJ
>Mega skins in maximized mode appear to be shaved off at top and bottom.
That's how Windows works when you maximize. (it shaves the borders) Maybe we'll play with "tricking" it so the borders don't get shaved...
>Next / previous
Yeah, we could go either way on that one, but since it works now, it'll sit for version 8. Maybe it can be optional in version 9.
WolfA
All the CD's I try get the right volume name. It could be a drive or OS thing. It's a little lame, but you can always use F2 to fix the name.
Take care.
-Matt
Post by: vcolombo on May 07, 2002, 11:43:25 am
The volume name and album name are separate. That way, both CD's from The Wall can have "The Wall" as the album, but the discs can be named "The Wall (disc 1)" and "The Wall (disc 2)" so MJ can ask for the right disc. Does that mess make any sense?
Um, I guess. I've never really used MJ as a CD player. I just rip all my stuff so I'll never make use of that feature. Personally I'd rather have changing the disc name change the track listing so I only have to change it once if CDDB comes up with an incorrect name. Selecting all the tracks and going into properties isn't a big deal, though.
> Ok, I'm ripping some CDs in high quality VBR and they're all showing up as 128
Bitrate and quality are different. Could that explain it? Are you using the "MP3 Encoder" (LAME) included with MJ?
Yes, I realize that quality and bit rate are different, but when ripping in VBR the bitrate should fluctuate, not show a constant 128, correct? I know with MusicMatch if a track is VBR it says VBR in the bitrate display. WinAmp shows the fluctuating bitrate. MJ, I thought, used to show an average bitrate. Now it's just showing 128. And yes, I'm using the encoder included with MJ.
Hope this helps clarify things.
Vince
Post by: vcolombo on May 07, 2002, 11:49:37 am
How difficult would it be to add an option in the CD device settings to spin up your drive before ripping?
Vince
Post by: Matt on May 07, 2002, 11:57:32 am
Um, I guess. I've never really used MJ as a CD player. I just rip all my stuff so I'll never make use of that feature. Personally I'd rather have changing the disc name change the track listing so I only have to change it once if CDDB comes up with an incorrect name. Selecting all the tracks and going into properties isn't a big deal, though.
Two quick notes:
- you can make your Media Library view schemes use "Album" instead of "Volume Name." It's very flexible.
- check out in-place editing... it's pretty slick for this sort of thing
About the mp3's, I'm not sure. Have you tried mutliple tracks? (MJ shows the VBR display, not the average)
Take care.
-Matt
Post by: vcolombo on May 07, 2002, 12:07:37 pm
About the mp3's, I'm not sure. Have you tried mutliple tracks? (MJ shows the VBR display, not the average)
Sorry, I thought it showed the average. Did it used to show the average in the library? Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
Anyway, yes, I ripped about 18 CDs before I noticed that it apparently wasn't working in VBR. Here are my settings...
Encoding Type & Quality
Encoder: MP3 Encoder VBR
Quality: High
Under Advanced...
Quality: Hight Quality
Yet it's still ripping at 128 CBR.
Oh, and the Quality in the main encoder screen and the Quality under Advanced might confuse some people. I understand that one is processing level (Advanced Quality) and the other is (I believe) sort of an average bitrate setting, but having two Quality options is odd.
Vince
Post by: shelly on May 07, 2002, 12:12:50 pm
Regarding MJ freezing when CD is inserted in PlexWriter:
1. If you rip a CD (that hasn't been ripped before) on the Pioneer drive, then try to rip the same one on the
PlexWriter, does it work ok? (JohnT)
Yes it does.
2. Do you have the freezing problem on the PlexWriter whether "enable CDDB" is checked or not?(JohnT)
No, the PlexWriter doesn't freeze with CDDB turned off.
3. If you give it 5 minutes, will it come around? (Matt)
No, it won't come around, even after waiting 5 min or so. I'm also not able to terminate MJ by using task manager. What I find strange is that as soon as I reboot, CDDB returns the track info on the same CD that caused the freezing.
4. Do you have "Search in subfolders" enabled in Device settings? (Matt)
Yes
Shelly
Post by: elpaolo on May 07, 2002, 12:15:16 pm
Bug: My HP 8200e burner keeps crashing when I click on it under devices. I get a blue screen of death and a memory dump. This one really has me concerned...
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.266
CPU: Intel Pentium III 607 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 68 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 (Build 2600)
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
wnaspi32.dll: 4.70 , ASPI for Win32 DLL, Copyright © 1989-2001 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.7
Post by: Easyrider on May 07, 2002, 12:42:11 pm
I have never noticed this before. Is this a bug? The CD is orginal not a burned cd. Playing now shows the names of the songs.
Post by: elpaolo on May 07, 2002, 01:04:14 pm
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.266
CPU: Intel Pentium III 580 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 102 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 (Build 2600)
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
wnaspi32.dll: 4.70 , ASPI for Win32 DLL, Copyright © 1989-2001 Adaptec, Inc.
Aspi32.sys: 4.7
Post by: elpaolo on May 07, 2002, 01:16:24 pm
Post by: Matt on May 07, 2002, 01:29:22 pm
The Track01.cda thing is by design. We use the filename (without the path) in Quick Play and Playing Now. (otherwise it's too messy for tracks without artist or name info -- maybe it'll be configurable in version 9)
Take care.
-Matt
Post by: rjay on May 07, 2002, 01:46:24 pm
Post by: bennyd on May 07, 2002, 01:55:57 pm
Post by: marty3d on May 07, 2002, 02:17:10 pm
1. Choose the view "playing now"
2. Make sure Track info is shown (don't think it matters which one, tried my own and MusicEx). I have it shown on about half the MJ window
3. Go to Settings -> Plugin manager
4. (Not sure this step is necessary) Open Display and select A) Track info then B) Visualizations
5. Click the exit button
6. Now the Track Info window is corrupt, showing some of the settings window. If you put another window in front and switch back to MJ, some of that window is shown in Track Info
7. Click on next track. Now MJ should crash. Ouch!
Anyone else getting this error?
Post by: dpbeatley on May 07, 2002, 02:28:36 pm
I concur with previous posts regarding this build STOPPING between tracks when playing CD's. I have to manually start each track even though the entire CD is in PLAYING NOW.
Also the following in PLAYING NOW:
1. Starting a MP3 is delayed by about 5-10 secs before playback starts.
2. Once MJ stops between tracks, if you hit play (for the next or current track) volume is extremely LOW. Get around it by hitting STOP and then PLAY again.
3. MJ stops between tracks regardingless of media type: MP3, CD, etc.
-dennis
Post by: elpaolo on May 07, 2002, 02:36:18 pm
this still occurs when CDDB look-up is disabled (unless disabling requires a restart of MJ...i just unchecked it and tried again...)
Also, and perhaps more relevantly, the error message coming up on the blue screen says something about a "BAD_POOL_(something)". i'll try to get the last word when it happens again. for now, i put the cd in my dvd drive to get the info in the database, then i place it in the HP drive for ripping. this is the only way to avoid a crash, it seems.