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Title: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Magog on May 27, 2012, 09:47:42 am

hellos
I bought an album track on HD 24/192
how to know if this are good from 24/192 plays
On iconne blue dps it are marked in 24/192 and out 24/192
HD track says it's jriver which can be converted into 16/44??
I have the same album on CD 16/44 and no difference in quality between the two (24/192 and 16/44)
Excuse my english
I' from Sherbrooke quebec
I'm assist at your confférence at Montreal very very good

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Alex B on May 27, 2012, 03:00:59 pm

I am glad you trust your own ears. That's all what counts. 24/192 may be better in theory, but since standard 16/44.1 Red Book audio can reproduce a 96 dB dynamic range and frequencies up to 22 kHz without audible distortions it is already good enough for our hearing capabilities.

The so called HD versions are often mastered well and they sound excellent, but the same mastering could be stored in the 16/44.1 format without practically sacrificing the audible quality.

Assuming you use an output mode that bypasses the Windows mixer (WASAPI, ASIO or Kernel Streaming), the displayed output information is correct. MC does not resample or reduce the bit depth if it is not set to do so.

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Alex B on May 27, 2012, 03:19:17 pm

24/192 Music Downloads ...and why they make no sense (http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html) by Christopher "Monty" Montgomery.

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Vincent Kars on May 27, 2012, 03:36:45 pm

http://www.digitalaudio.dk/media/3Tradeoff_of_192_kHz.pdf

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Magog on May 27, 2012, 04:46:45 pm

My setting is good
Wasapi event
Dps.   No change
Output. 24 bits
Audiophilo 2
Dac Egel HD10

Very interesting your Reponce
The sound SeemS best with 24/96 not 24/192
T you

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Alex B on May 27, 2012, 06:10:52 pm

Two videos that might help to understand these things and how they affect audio quality:

Video Episode 1: A Digital Media Primer for Geeks (http://video.xiph.org/vid1.shtml) also by Christopher "Monty" Montgomery. This one needs a HTML5 compatible browser. Internet Explorer does not work. Use e.g. Firefox, Chrome or Opera. The video has a drop-down menu for subtitles in several languages, including French.

Audio Myths Workshop (http://youtu.be/BYTlN6wjcvQ) by Ethan Winer

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Magog on May 29, 2012, 04:33:02 pm

Last issue
Must be checked ,  Play file from memory instead of disc????for the best sound??  Or no difference
I,m checked preboffing 2sec
I,m checked play file from memory

Title: Re: 24/192 16/44 same sound
Post by: Alex B on May 29, 2012, 04:53:46 pm

No difference, unless memory playback solves some odd (and usually clearly audible) bandwidth problems. I use it for files that I play from my test NAS (= a USB memory stick that is plugged into my wireless router).