My problem now is a network bandwidth one. I have been using Homeplugs to get my network to the TV concerned and it won't handle HD media.Maybe newer devices would help. Ethernet over powerline keeps getting faster. 500Mbps (at least) is available.
One issue I am finding is that music files pushed from MC or sent by WebGizmo don't show cover art. If I pull the file using the WD TV Live UI, it works OK. The art is in the files. Any suggestions here would be appreciated.Yes, that does seem to be an issue with the WD TV, I have exactly the same problem. The feeling is that MC sends the correct data but some renderers don't read it when they're being "played to".
Yes, that does seem to be an issue with the WD TV, I have exactly the same problem. The feeling is that MC sends the correct data but some renderers don't read it when they're being "played to".That's correct, it's a bug in the WD firmware.
Are there other devices similar to this one that readers highly recommend?Wish I had a good answer. They all seem to have some quirks. I did see on Engadget that the number of certified DLNA devices doubled last year. That's a hopeful sign.
I have today set up a WD TV Live renderer with MC17. I'm only interested in music - not video, so simply have it connected to an old DAC with the optical cable. Under MC I have called it "Western Digital Live" and a short while after powering it on this appears under the other main player which is "Berkeley Alpha USB" in the Playing Now area. I've set it so that for Western Digital Live, MC converts everything to 16/44.1 and it works for a while but then Westen Digital Live disappears from the Playing Now area and it reverts to Berkeley Alpha USB. This happens both with a wired ethernet connection and the wireless connection between WD Live unit and the router. It's hard to say for sure what triggers it, but it seems to be at least every other time I use Gizmo on a Toshiba tablet. To get Western Digital Live to appear again I must turn the WD Live TV unit off and then on again, but then it's still only good for a few tracks and it goes bananas.
Is there something I'm overlooking?
Thanks in advance.
The Pioneer can pull fine all day using its own remote and Android control application, but when JRiver is used to push to it, it falls over after a few tracks and it happens every time.Those are two different cases. Pushing and pulling aren't the same. Lots of DLNA devices can play directly from a server but can't play when content is sent by a controller.
I've got a question, and since this seems to be a general thread, I figured I'd ask here. (Yell at me if I shouldn't have!)http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=76784.msg520012#msg520012
When pulling music or movies from MC into my WDTV Live SMP, the cover art looks like junk. All of the cover art images that I have stored are of the highest quality, some up to 1500x1500 or so. I've tried just about everything I can think of, but to no avail. The thing I am noticing is that it's happening on the server side, as I'm able to view the images in the log. They always come out to ~160x160. I just can't seem to figure out why.
Has anyone else here experienced this? Any ideas as to what could be causing it, or how I might be able to fix it?
Thanks, guys!
Edit: I may have found a solution (have gotten through 7 tracks without a dissapearance) and shall post it tomorrow or the day after (either here or on my hi-fi blog) if further tests prove it. I am here not only to find a solution for myself, but to share it with others if I do.
I've got a question, and since this seems to be a general thread, I figured I'd ask here. (Yell at me if I shouldn't have!)Did a little checking into the art size.
When pulling music or movies from MC into my WDTV Live SMP, the cover art looks like junk. All of the cover art images that I have stored are of the highest quality, some up to 1500x1500 or so. I've tried just about everything I can think of, but to no avail. The thing I am noticing is that it's happening on the server side, as I'm able to view the images in the log. They always come out to ~160x160. I just can't seem to figure out why.
Has anyone else here experienced this? Any ideas as to what could be causing it, or how I might be able to fix it?
Thanks, guys!
You can have mine for testing if you want to pop over and pick it up! ;DDo you have a picture of your guest room?
| File Type | Video Codec | Audio Codec | Bitrate | Outcome | Notes |
| M4A | N/A | AAC | 124 | OK | |
| M4A | N/A | AAC | 256 | OK | |
| M4A | N/A | AAC | 261 | OK | |
| M4A | N/A | ALAC | 364 | Failed | Skips to next file in list |
| FLAC | N/A | FLAC | >262 | Failed | Get message there was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device.... |
| WAV | N/A | PCM | 1411 | Failed | Get message there was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device.... |
| IFO | MPEG-2 | DTS | 8901 | OK | |
| MKV | MPEG-2 | AC3 | 10024 | Failed | There was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device |
| MKV | AVC-1 | DTS | 649584 | Failed | There was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device |
| MKV | WVC1 | AC3 | 26474 | OK | |
| MKV | AVC1 | Multi | 36608 | Failed | There was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device |
| MP4 | AVC1 | AAC | 36608 | OK |
MC 18.0.122Thanks for testing.
WD TV Live Streaming Media Player with firmware 1.12.14
DLNA Server set to never convert (Video and Audio)
All files play OK when using the WD Live unit as a player. the following are the results when using as a renderer
File Type Video Codec Audio Codec Bitrate Outcome Notes M4A N/A AAC 124 OK M4A N/A AAC 256 OK M4A N/A AAC 261 OK M4A N/A ALAC 364 Failed Skips to next file in list FLAC N/A FLAC >262 Failed Get message there was a problem contolling the selected DLNA device.... WAV N/A PCM 1411 Failed Get message there was a problem contolling the selected DLNA device.... IFO MPEG-2 DTS 8901 OK MKV MPEG-2 AC3 10024 Failed There was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device MKV AVC-1 DTS 649584 Failed There was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device MKV WVC1 AC3 26474 OK MKV AVC1 Multi 36608 Failed There was a problem controlling the selected DLNA device MP4 AVC1 AAC 36608 OK
Most if not all of the movies have multi tracks. I didn't note these down when recording the detail
MKV files created using MakeMKV (various versions) from original disks
I'm happy to provide Media Info dumps / JR MC logfiles on the failed files. Also I can upgrade to the newer WD firmware if required (although I believe it has issues)
regards,
Steve
I've just tried my WDTV again and it works. There has been no further firmware update but there have been a few MC updates since I last tried it. Has anything knowingly been tweaked?Just a few of very specific DLNA flags for particular video formats.
Thanks Bob, turns out the "Ignore Transport Events" does not make a difference for either pull or push (was a red herring). I did a bunch of testing andThere is very little difference between pushing and pulling and neither uses SMB. When pushing, all metadata is sent to the renderer since there isn't a request coming into the server with specific fields requested like there is when pulling from the renderer. In both cases, the renderer just opens a url containing the file to be played. Once it's playing, I can't see how there would be a difference.
- I can see the WD TV Live regularly disappear in MC's Playing Now then after a bit reapear (but Windows Explorer still sees it just fine).
- I can make the WD TV Live error out by going into MC's Tools --> Options and then press "OK"
When Pushing media to the player it seems to be using SMB (would this be correct) as I get a msg on the WD TV Live saying it is playing media from Windows. Does pulling using a different method and would this explain why it is stable one way but unstable another?
I tried checking and unchecking a bunch of the options but nothing of interest to report.
No other ideas so far but I can get Windows logs of DLNA traces if you want.
Thanks
Nathan
One thing you could try, perhaps related to the PC sleep states, when pulling, once you get the video playing, click on the WD zone in MC. Don't do anything other than look at the zone, once you touch any of the controls (volume, etc), MC becomes that active controller. See if that changes anything. Thanks!
Bib / Steve Thanks for the suggestions ... but I've not found anything more really.This is important because since when you are pulling and MC as a controller is just viewing the progress to have the WD disappear from MC's playing now indicates that the WD sent a Bye-Bye (basically reset). We don't remove anything from the tree unless it gets errors on us giving it commands OR it says it's going away.
No change. When pulling content I can see it in MC just fine and sometimes (but not always) I get the error and at exactly the same time the WDTVLive disappears from the MC Playing Now. No such issue when pushing.
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I don't get this device. Some more testing has revealed that if I set the Video Encoder in MC to "H264-TS high bandwidth stream autofps" I can push content to it just fine but if I try to pull content I get a the WDTV Live saying it is not a supported format... (the corresponding MPEG2-TS profile is fine).it seems as if it's using a different filter against the DIDL when pulling VS pushing.
it seems as if it's using a different filter against the DIDL when pulling VS pushing.
Here is the Wiki for what devices are supported. http://wiki.wdlxtv.com/Main_PageI have the Live and Live Plus... I am trying to get the firmware loaded now.
I'm always happy to try other FW but I have a Gen 3 box and that is still WIP.
Yeah, it does make sense. I don't know how Media Center sends, but if it's just saying "Here, play this file, OK - now play this one" then there would be no volume control. The WDTV isn't seen as a soundcard. In fact when looking at the DSP center in MC18, it says no rendering is possible for the output. Samething happens IIRC when streaming to Squeezeserver. Makes me curious about volume leveling, then. Perhaps it's a flag that is sent to the WDTV and it does the leveling?The WD could choose to do volume leveling by looking at the replay gain in the file header.
In fact when looking at the DSP center in MC18, it says no rendering is possible for the output.
No, I don't think that's possible, the WDTV will not expose its USB drive as network share. Have you tried it to find out? Does your WDTV's USB drive appear as a network drive in Windows?It works! I have a 4TB USB drive hooked up to the WDTV Live and I can access the drive from my PC with JRiver MC 18.
If MC server was available for installation on a NAS then this quite common request would be solved (a lot of people would prefer to server from a low-power NAS rather than having a PC running all the time) , but development of a Mac-version has taken priority for the moment. But I think it will come eventually ;-)
That's amazing! Which model of the WDTV have you got? (original, Plus, Streaming, Hub etc)I have the WDTV-LIVE with the WDXLTV-LIVE firmware... My other box (WDTV-LIVE PLUS) Doesn't see the 4TB drive.
Ah, well as reported above, this firmware seems to turn the unit into a DLNA server, so presumbaly you are using MC to connect to a remote DLNA server rather than being able to see the USB drive as a drive letter in Windows?If you want to tag them for categories you can still use MC18 categories I believe. I have only tagged mine for "movie" and they show up in the same place they did when I had them on a local drive. When I view files I can see that they are on the WDTV media player. I was watching movies via MC18 and WDTV last night and they looked great... I am using a Gigabit Switch and cat 6 cables so far. I have not had a chance to try it across the wireless N yet.
But this would provide what the OP wants anyway - a way to access the media on the WDTV via MC18, but of course will not be able to take advanatge of MC's advanced categorisation etc, he will be using the WDTV's browsing structure vcia DLNA.
The settings that will affect it are the DLNA server settings, but volume control should be sent correctly via DLNA.Hmmmm..... wonder what I'm doing wrong? Will dig into it.
New FW is out 1.15.10 - but unfortunately no change for me - still drops out when pulling after around 5minsI just reviewed this whole thread. I'm wondering why you have 2 nic cards to the same switch on the MC PC?
Even easier to test, I'll just disable one of the ports and see how it goes!Just to make sure the test is clean, start MC after the port is disabled.
I'm nominating you for MC Genius of the Year! After 30min with only one Ethernet Port is active there were no drop outs at all. Enabled the second port and it was initially fine then fell over within a couple of minutes.... a good one to add to JimH's list of weird stuffThe pic looks good but you really only need to put the network address for that second lan card in there.
I'm now testing with the Registry Change (note: I have no idea if I've formed the key correctly or what the "bits of significance" should be). Also is this going to be the preferred "fix" or is there an update to MC code base?
FYI - I've "teamed" the two Ethernet ports so the NW only sees one and this too has solved the issue ;DGood to see that worked as well.