Post by: aRCLiGHT on April 16, 2002, 09:49:28 am
I saw some mention that M01 might be going away. Is this true? If it is (or really even if it isn't), can we get the old MJ Music Server back? It was a very cool feature that I wish had never been removed.
Come on everyone, jump on the bandwagon! Hold up your signs. "We want MJ Music Server back!!"
aRCLiGHT
Post by: JimH on April 16, 2002, 10:03:18 am
It will drop the options for users and search, and it will drop the requirement for an account.
Connections will be limited to 3 simultaneous users.
This is designed for personal use, playing your collection from another room or from your work. We believe this is a "fair use" of your music. The legality of anything else is too uncertain for us to provide right now.
Thanks to everyone who has participated in the Music01 test. It was fun while it lasted.
Post by: Harry The Hipster on April 16, 2002, 10:42:27 am
HTH
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on April 16, 2002, 05:03:52 pm
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on April 16, 2002, 05:05:14 pm
Post by: KingSparta on April 16, 2002, 05:10:51 pm
CRAP = Caucasian Rap
AKA: Eminem, Vanilla Ice
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on April 16, 2002, 05:15:51 pm
Listening to: 'Ice' from 'Clear Spirit' by 'Spirit' on Media Jukebox
Post by: Doof on April 16, 2002, 05:31:32 pm
But Media Server is cool too.
Too bad we couldn't have both.
What happened to that whole deal with the record companies and Music01?
Post by: KingSparta on April 16, 2002, 05:38:05 pm
i liked to see what others streamed, so i could see what i was missing.
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on April 16, 2002, 05:40:11 pm
I never got to try it. And DSL is two weeks away.
Crap!!!
Post by: Harry the Hipster on April 16, 2002, 06:04:15 pm
Educated guess:
Think what happened was that JimH tried to sell the lunkheads on a truly creative concept for expanding their market share and trumping P2P, but predictably they tried to gouge him rather than work out a real partnership.
Music01 was a concept piece to show them how it might work, and how much support it could command. Once it was clear they wouldn't deal on remotely equitable terms, JRiver concluded it couldn't keep the open streaming concept going indefinitely, because it looked a lot like webcasting, which meant a royalty obligation under the recent arb panel royalty ruling. Maybe they even threatened him with litigation - who knows?
In any event, JRiver had to reshape the program to more neatly fit into a fair use category, meaning esentially restricting it to extended personal use by the file owner and one or two others.
HTH
Photo Op from most recent RIAA convention: record execs and industry lobbyists mixing with Senators and Representatives. Ernest Hollings in right foreground.
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on April 16, 2002, 06:04:41 pm
Just another way we have been/are being screwed by the RIAA.
They must be reined in.
They do serve many valuable functions. I can't think of any right now but I'm sure there must be something.
If someone were to design a campaign to systematically turn EVERYONE against them, they couldn't do any better than the RIAA is doing. But what I'm afraid of is that they will wreck everything before doing themselves in.
CVIII
Post by: JimH on April 16, 2002, 06:48:07 pm
Also last week, a small public company settled a lawsuit with the RIAA for $1 million. That got my attention. I don't want to be the next RIAA poster child.
Eventually this will get sorted out and there will be business to do. We'll be back.
Post by: Bryan on April 17, 2002, 01:04:19 pm
Post by: aRCLiGHT on April 17, 2002, 08:29:49 pm
Thanks for bringing back the good ole Music Server. I think three simultaneous connections is more than enough!! This is one reason why I have stuck with MJ. You guys listen to your customers!! Maybe others ought to do the same and follow your examples...... Thanks again!!! Can't wait to see it come back....
aRCLiGHT
Post by: Scronch on April 17, 2002, 11:27:32 pm
HTH - Is this better?
Post by: gvag on April 17, 2002, 11:33:28 pm
So... what was/is Music Server?
cheers
Post by: Scronch on April 18, 2002, 12:06:56 am
New in Media Jukebox 6.0
Media Server The included Media Server allows you to rip once, play anywhere. Easily connect to your media library from anywhere via the Internet, and use Media Jukebox as if you were sitting right in front of the host computer.
Post by: Bob L. on April 18, 2002, 07:31:30 am
Thanks for bringing back media server. One of my biggest reasons for setting up a digital music system and using Media Jukebox (the best music management system out there IMHO) is so that my family and I can all share one music server. Although using our network file sharing and building libraries on each node is possible, the media server gives me much more consistency.
Just one request. We've got 6 systems in our home. As families become much more wired, even that number (and more) could become common. I know that JRiver has to prevent the server from turning into internet radio, but wouldn't, say, 10 simultaneous connections have the same effect (since selling 10 connections could hardly constitute a viable business model).
I may be missing some important wrinkle here, and if so, please let me know. At any rate, thanks for bringing this back.
Regards,
Bob L.
Post by: JimH on April 18, 2002, 07:38:51 am
Thanks, but I don't think we can open it up more at this time. The lanscape is littered with carcases of companies that thought they knew what was fair until proven wrong in court. I'd like JRiver to be still standing when the dust settles.
It may take several more years to sort out what is legal and what isn't. In the meantime, we'll take a cautious approach and hope people will understand.
The connection limit, BTW, is 3 simultaneous users, so if your family members will disconnect, others will be able to connect. A second server would get you 3 more connections.
Post by: Nila on April 18, 2002, 10:01:34 am
Also, because it would be password protected, it wouldn't be a fire sharing service any more than say G6 is libable because they make an ftp server program or apache is because they make a web server that could be used to serve mp3's from.
Post by: KingSparta on April 18, 2002, 10:07:43 am
I think there was a reason for 3, like you and 2 friends, anymore than that maybe out of bounds.
Post by: JimH on April 18, 2002, 10:08:01 am
If you'll re-read my message, I think you'll see where we are on this.
Post by: Doof on April 18, 2002, 12:44:52 pm
Post by: Ingo on April 18, 2002, 01:07:33 pm
wow, that would be realy great value than
Ingo
Post by: JimH on April 18, 2002, 01:09:52 pm
Post by: Doof on April 18, 2002, 01:11:39 pm
