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Title: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 03, 2013, 06:25:09 pm
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8. Changed: When going into a Theater View library item that only contains a single file, the file will be 'zoomed' automatically.

Love this new feature that just makes navigating Theater View a little easier.

I just realized that it also now is possible to have a more elegant view in Theater View displaying Movie series together with my standalone movies.

Thanks for this great new addition.

TLS
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: zxsix on January 03, 2013, 10:21:53 pm
Mind sharing the settings of that view?
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 03, 2013, 10:23:39 pm
+1
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: MrC on January 03, 2013, 10:27:36 pm
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=76739.msg520778#msg520778 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=76739.msg520778#msg520778)
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: BartMan01 on January 03, 2013, 11:25:42 pm
I wanted pretty granular control over sort order so I did the following:

First created a library field I called 'Movie Sort' as an expression of:  If(IsEmpty([Series]), [Name], [Series])
For the Grid view, I added the 'Movie Sort' field.
In set rules for file display I set the following:
~sort=[Movie Sort],[Episode Order],[Date],[Name]

This sorts the movies by series/name.
Within series it sorts by episode order (if populated), then date, then name.

I use episode order to sort a movies series in a specific order.  Helpful when they weren't released chronologically in order or I have multiple cuts (extended/directors/etc) that I want to group as one movie in the top view and then control the order when drilled in to.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 02:51:00 am
I use the field Sequel to store the Movie series name in, but the Series field or a custom field can also be used.

Then I create a Theater view under Options. Use an expression (courtesy of Marko from another thread about this I think). Replace the values Sequel in the string if you use another field.

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/3673861600.jpg)

This will give a view in Theater View where standalone and Movie series are listed together.

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen/8717579000.jpg)

This is basically it. Clicking once on a series will give this view....

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen2/3771484870.jpg)

and clicking once on a standalone movie will bring me directly to this view....

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/3673861601.jpg)


TLS
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Grenache on January 04, 2013, 05:56:38 am
In this view, do you still have the info pane to the right?

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/3673861602.jpg)

If that's not the case, I would appreciate some hints on how to get rid of it so the primary view also looks like this:

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/3673861603.jpg)
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 06:00:24 am
Afraid not. The Info pane view only shows when you select a single movie. I don't know how to get the pane view on the top level with this view.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Grenache on January 04, 2013, 06:09:58 am
Afraid not. The Info pane view only shows when you select a single movie. I don't know how to get the pane view on the top level with this view.

I think you misunderstood me. I wan't to get rid of the info pane in all of my views except for the last view where you click "Watch". In my setup I have an info pane to the right of the covers in this screen shot:

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/3673861602.jpg)
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: rick.ca on January 04, 2013, 06:23:39 am
As I predicted. Now Theatre View will have to be redesigned to accommodate the new 'feature'. ;D
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Grenache on January 04, 2013, 06:37:30 am
As I predicted. Now Theatre View will have to be redesigned to accommodate the new 'feature'. ;D

To me this has nothing to do with the new "feature" (which btw I like, sorry  8)). I just have absolutely no use of an info pane to the right of my list of movie covers that for some reason shows the cover one more time and where I can't see more than four lines of the description.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 06:54:05 am
I did misunderstand you. This view will ONLY show the info pane when you are down to a single movie.The screen shot listed does not have an info pane to the right. So this should be what you are looking for???

The new feature helps by jumping directly down to the view where you have the Watch button, whenever you come across a single file. Before this was added, you had to click a movie cover an extra time to get to that detailed view with all the info and watch button.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Grenache on January 04, 2013, 07:01:39 am
The screen shot listed does not have an info pane to the right. So this should be what you are looking for???

Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for!  :)

Do you mind (when you have the time) cutting & pasting the expression you use to get this view? The text is a bit too small in your screen shot and I can't find the thread by Marko you're referring to.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 07:11:31 am
Absolutely.  :)

Here is the link from MC17 board

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68981.msg468387#msg468387

and the expression I used.

Code: [Select]
if(isempty([sequel]),[name],[sequel]\[name])&datatype=[list]
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: JimH on January 04, 2013, 08:35:33 am
Some posts were split to a new thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=77006.0
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: BartMan01 on January 04, 2013, 09:12:46 am

This is basically it. Clicking once on a series will give this view....

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/3673861603.jpg)


TLS

That is why I used my slightly more complicated approach above.  inside your 'sets', the movies are in title order.  Being more 'type A' when it comes to this stuff - that drives me up the wall.  I want my 'sets' in logical order either by release date or by story arc.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 09:44:41 am
Not A at all. I understand what you mean.  :) Where do you actually enter the sort string under set rules for file display? I can't seem to find a place for that string.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 10:06:00 am
Got it to work. You are right, that extra layer of sorting look better. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Mr.6 on January 04, 2013, 10:34:23 am
So how did you get it to work?

Thanks!

6
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 11:00:46 am
I followed BartMan01 description in this thread.

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First created a library field I called 'Movie Sort' as an expression of:  If(IsEmpty([Series]), [Name], [Series])
For the Grid view, I added the 'Movie Sort' field.
In set rules for file display I set the following:
~sort=[Movie Sort],[Episode Order],[Date],[Name]

Create a Library Field as he describes. I am using the Sequel field so I just replaced Series with Sequel.
Go into options and Theater View, create a view for you movies.
Click the Add button on the right and select the Library Field you just created.
Click the Set Rule For File Display in the lower right corner.
Choose Sort By under Modify results and add the sort criterias you want. First one has to be the new Library field above. The next ones is up to you. I have ProductionYear as the next one and then Name.

Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Mr.6 on January 04, 2013, 12:11:15 pm
Thanks a lot!

6
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Ekpen on January 04, 2013, 02:57:39 pm
Hi:
Looking at the screen, you have tile, which you creatred correct.
Next screen is "details" correct?

can you please repaste the screen or describe what info you have there. The category screen overlaps the underneath screen.
Please explain or expand or make  item bigger.

Thanks.
Ekpen
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 04, 2013, 04:39:33 pm
Sure. Here is the updated screen dumps with the set-up that does correct sorting inside the series.

Create a Library as below. Note I use the excisting field Sequel as my Movie Series field.

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen3/561678535_orig0.jpg)

Create a view under Option. Use the Library field created above
(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen3/561678535_orig1.jpg#)


The above will look like this in Theater View. This is the top level when entering the view.
(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen/871757900_orig0.jpg)


This is what it will look like when entering a Movie Series from the top level. You can get one level lower when clicking on a single movie.
(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen2/377148487_orig0.jpg)


and this is the first view you will meet when clicking on a movie on the top level that is NOT part of a series.
(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/CB628E2F-4443-4A6F-98D1-99DF1E171D41/Screen_clip/367386160_orig1.jpg)


Hope this helps you.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: zxsix on January 04, 2013, 08:09:03 pm
Good stuff.
Here's my modification on the expression field.
Makes the series groups stand out a little better by using all caps.

Code: [Select]
if(isempty([Series]), [Name], Fixcase([Series],3) SERIES)
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: Ekpen on January 04, 2013, 09:35:39 pm
Thanks.
Ekpen.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: JustinChase on January 04, 2013, 10:32:46 pm
For what it's worth, i don't think it's necessary to create a new field, or use a complex expression to get this done.  Here's what I'm doing with this...

In Theater View options, I created a sub view called Series.  For the fields in that series, I use an expression (not a field), which is If(IsEmpty([Series]), [Name], [Series]) and I called it Series, so that is what is displayed in Theater View on the roller.  it could be called anything.  I use the Series field for the name of any Movie series (Star Wars, James Bond, the Avengers, etc)

then under "Set rules for file display..." I have...

Episode (a-z)
Date (a-z)
Name (a-z)

So if there is an episode it will sort by this first (if you want to force the Episode 1 of Star Wars to show first, instead of Episode 4, which was actually released first), otherwise it will sort by date, otherwise by name.

Works perfectly, and I only use the one expression above.  I actually don't even need that expression, since I have a Series for every movie already populated, I could just select Series, instead of the expression, but I will probably stop filling in the Series where unnecessary now, since the expression works perfectly well.

Anyway, just another way to skin a cat :)
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: fitbrit on January 05, 2013, 01:37:11 am
Great thread, guys!
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 05, 2013, 09:54:27 am
Great thread indeed!

zxsix, very nice addition with the caps. What if I also wanted to add a different color to the label, how would I do that?
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: BartMan01 on January 05, 2013, 12:15:27 pm

Works perfectly, and I only use the one expression above.  I actually don't even need that expression, since I have a Series for every movie already populated, I could just select Series, instead of the expression, but I will probably stop filling in the Series where unnecessary now, since the expression works perfectly well.

Anyway, just another way to skin a cat :)

The one thing I CAN'T get to work with your method is having a Standard View that mirrors (as much as possible) the Theater View (which I like to have).  Without using a custom library field, I can't see a way to get a standard view to sort by movie/series since expressions aren't allowed in the sort area.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: JustinChase on January 05, 2013, 12:42:16 pm
Hmmm, I don't normally do that, so I had not tried to create a matching view before now.  I was able to do it, but only because I actually populate the Series field on all Movies, which I don't suspect most will do.  (it's incredibly easy/fast to "Move / Copy Fields..." from [Name] to [Series] on all the blank series movies (individual movie not part of a set), and then it's easy.

However, I bet someone here is smart enough to tell you how to get an expression into the Sort area of a view, then you could do it also.

Here is how I do it...

Create the view to show just Movies (Media Sub Type is Movie)

Under Modify Results...
Sort by...
Series (a-z)
Episode (a-z)
Date (a-z)
Name (a-z)

Your challenge (as you already know) is to get Sort by Series (a-z) to use the expression If(IsEmpty([Series]), [Name], [Series]) instead, and I just don't know how to do that.  I'm guessing it's possible, but someone else will have to chime in I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: zxsix on January 05, 2013, 11:30:20 pm


zxsix, very nice addition with the caps. What if I also wanted to add a different color to the label, how would I do that?

Code: [Select]
if(isempty([Series]), [Name], </fontcolor="FF0000">Fixcase([Series],3) SERIES<//font>)But it doesn't work in some areas.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: tls62dk on January 06, 2013, 10:33:05 am
It did change the Series caption text to red, but unfortunately also does something to the sorting of the view. All my series are now listed first after which all the stand alone movies comes.

Thank you very much for trying though.
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: duskdrums on March 24, 2013, 11:25:59 am
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I wanted to see if it was possible to show series art for those movies in a series and individual movie art for those items that aren't in a series in Theater View using some of the expressions listed above?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Love the new Auto Zoom in Theater View
Post by: MrC on March 24, 2013, 12:05:21 pm
If you use an expression instead of the Series library field, MC won't use series art.  Its a limitation.