Post by: Matt on February 06, 2002, 12:42:31 pm
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaJukebox8.exe
Please backup your library and your license.
(note: you can use "Help->Check for Updates" if you've installed a previous beta of 8.0 to reduce the download size)
History:
1. Fixed: Multimedia keys should work better.
2. Fixed: A possible crash caused by the "Starfield" visualization component.
3. Fixed: Shell Extensions would not work with large number of files.
4. Changed: Auto insert notification check now takes place before preparing files for burning.
5. Fixed: Visualization studio would not always prompt to save for changes.
6. NEW: Information box on how to upload files to Portables.
7. NEW: Added file "Statistics" system.
8. Fixed: Internal cover art saving / loading did not work for APE and APL.
9. Changed: Full Screen background collor changed to black
10. Fixed: Full Screen command bars would not be painted correctly with skinning on.
11. NEW: Added "Fast Forward" and "Rewind" (Ctrl Left / Ctrl Right)
12. Changed: Seeking now faster.
13. Changed: Menus automatically enlarged in Full Screen mode.
Post by: Xstatic on February 06, 2002, 12:55:59 pm
Post by: bennyd on February 06, 2002, 01:02:53 pm
Where do I find this ?
Post by: dwex on February 06, 2002, 01:24:06 pm
Still broken, same as 198. I also updated my keyboard driver from Windows Update.
Reiterating my report...
Multimedia keys work fine when MJ has focus.
When MJ does not have focus:
- Play/pause button "blips" playback when MJ is playing, and starts Windows Media Player
- Stop button causes MJ to GPF
- Prev/Next track buttons work fine.
Microsoft Internet Keyboard Professional, USB, driver 2.0.300.0.
Media Jukebox 8.0.199
CPU: Intel Pentium III 750 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 151 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 (Build 2600)
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.000
Post by: JimH on February 06, 2002, 01:45:56 pm
Post by: cjdshaw on February 06, 2002, 02:02:29 pm
Great, except....
They don't work on video files.
When seeking, the time position in the status bar is replaced by Buffering so you can't tell where you've got to.
Will they be added to the Girder plugin?
Post by: ZRocker on February 06, 2002, 02:12:01 pm
The stats for # Artists and # Albums are the same number (something is not right about that...I know I have 100s of artists with multiple ablums loaded).
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:17:41 pm
Using Windows XP, With Mega-Me Skins On Crashes MJ
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:19:51 pm
With Windows XP And Mega-Me Skins On Crashes MJ
Post by: cjdshaw on February 06, 2002, 02:20:47 pm
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:24:16 pm
"Audio" Option Button When Burning
With Windows XP And Mega Me Skins On Crashes MJ
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:25:09 pm
"Data CD" Option Button When Burning
With Windows XP And Mega Me Skins On Crashes MJ
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 02:27:51 pm
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 02:29:42 pm
It should be the same number of Albums that show up in an unfiltered Album Media View. Maybe even one less (subtracting (unassigned) from that count).
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:30:21 pm
Anytime you have The Mega-Me Skin On, And You Click On a "option" button MJ crashes
that was one of the problems with the buy button
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 02:32:19 pm
I don't have an option anywhere for MEGA-ME skins, and I'm on XP.
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:34:16 pm
Settins, Options, Device Settings, CDDB "Settings", "CDDB Registration", And Any Option Button On That Screen Crashes MJ
With Windows XP And Mega Me Skins On Crashes MJ
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 02:34:38 pm
I just distinctly remember this being listed in the history of one of the builds, and the fact that I don't have MEGA-ME skins listed as an option on either of my two XP systems strengthens that belief.
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 02:37:41 pm
November i bought Windows XP Pro
I have XP Pro, With All Patchs
I do have all XP skins turned off, looks like normal windows
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 02:48:24 pm
History 7.2
7.2.280 (12/11/01)
Fixed: Media Jukebox would crash when check box is selected on Win XP.
NEW: Added support for Windows XP skinning
Changed: Removed option to set mega-me skin on Windows XP.
NEW: Added support for many more CD-R/RW drives
I'm assuming that holds true for 8 as well, but maybe not.
Was it just supposed to be disabled for the XP theme and not the classic theme?
Post by: JimH on February 06, 2002, 02:50:44 pm
I tried the first one and can't duplicate it. Could it be something else?
Lack of beer?
Post by: kitfox on February 06, 2002, 02:53:50 pm
Post by: Nikolay on February 06, 2002, 02:58:28 pm
Can you post you system information.
Mega-me skin should not be available on Win XP. The reason we removed mega-me skin because it was causing a lot of problems on Win XP (I guess you discovered it already
)Regards,
Nikolay
Post by: cjdshaw on February 06, 2002, 03:01:22 pm
Post by: dragyn on February 06, 2002, 03:07:49 pm
Also, cover art does not display in mp3s even though it says located in file.
Windows Vis doesn't stay on top when it shows "always on top". Have to turn off and then on again to set. Icon associated with window would look better with MJ icon.
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 03:13:26 pm
Recently Played & Top Hits : Reset doesn't work the way I thought it used to. It doesn't purge anything, it just sets everything's playcount to 1, even if nothing's ever been played. After doing a Reset on both, they both just have the first x number of entries from Media Library. Shouldn't they be empty?
Rules : Putting the closing ']' on the end of a rule based on location causes that rule to return nothing.
Track Info : If a file has a rating of ?, TRACKINFO_INSERT_RATING returns 0 instead of ?.
Request : Can we get a % indicator on the Startup Volume option?
Request : Can we get a Quick Skin menu in mini-me?
Request : How about using the Status Bar to display Repeat, Shuffle, and Filter modes?
Question : Did anybody read my post about wanting an alphabetized Playing Now in the Quick Play menu?
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 03:23:07 pm
Post by: Doof on February 06, 2002, 03:27:52 pm
Post by: dragyn on February 06, 2002, 03:28:39 pm
Post by: dragyn on February 06, 2002, 03:38:09 pm
Post by: ZRocker on February 06, 2002, 03:46:20 pm
1. If you use the Windows Explorer's right-click menu to 'MJ > Play' or 'MJ > Add to Playing Now' when MJ is not currently running, MJ does not process the Windows Explorer-initiated request properly. MJ displays the last saved Playing Now content, but plays the first song from the Windows Explorer request. Then, the next song played is actually what you see next in the Playing Now list (ie, the last played tracks).
2. MJ does not remember the 'Disable Visualizations' setting. If you use the right-click menu to Disable Visualizations and restart MJ, Visualizations are re-enabled again.
3. MJ crashes if you play with changing visualizations after about 4 or 5 changes (sometimes fewer). This has been a problem in all 8.0 releases (that I've noticed). Basically, I just get the urge to check them out occasionally...so I cycle thru a few (or turn Cycling option on) very quickly (using the right-click menu) and MJ crashes everytime. Sometimes, I accidently click Visualization Studio and MJ crashes. Just seems a bit unstable in this area...
4. The word Statistics is misspelled on the Edit menu as Stastics.
5. I have had MJ crash after its been playing for a few hours minimized to the tray and I right-click the tray icon and choose Stop. I think in earlier MJ 8.0 builds a few folks reported MJ crashing after running for a while and using the tray icon to perform some action.
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 04:07:55 pm
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.199
>>Can you post you system information
Why Yes I Can
I just turned on Windows Xp Skins, And MJ Does Not Detect I Am Running XP, And Allows Me To Turn On And Off The Mega-Me Skin
And On Or Off "Windows XP Style" it crashes MJ
It Tells Windows 2000, But I Have The Windows XP Box To Prove It
CPU: Intel Pentium III 696 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 133 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000 Workstation 5.0 (Build 2195)
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.000
Post by: KingSparta on February 06, 2002, 04:23:38 pm
>King,
>I tried the first one and can't duplicate it. Could it be something else?
>Lack of beer?
No thats no the problem
I have
1. gin about 1\2 gal
2. Absolut Vodka, (good with Grapefruit juice, Or Lemon, Orange)
3. Rum about 1\2 gal
4. Beer (I am thinking of making my own, just to play around)
5. Apple Schnapps (Berentzen) (good stuff by the way)
6. 4 Gals Of Wine (Bulk In Oak)
so you see i have, what i need
I think it is more MJ is not detecting I have Windows XP for some reason
Like i said i do have the box, i don't like the box but i have it, i will mail it to you if you want it.
maybe put it in the fire place or something i know it is still cold there.
Skins Off, I did change, Windows XP under Visual Effects to "Adjust For Best Performance"
Post by: Trelane on February 06, 2002, 05:32:18 pm
Post by: JollyJim on February 06, 2002, 06:03:23 pm
For Virtual Sub and Surround Field -
1. Select the DSP icon and the menu appears
2. Select Virtual Sub or Surround Field and the drop down appears
3. Make a selection from the drop down and the description DOES change to your selection
4. If DSP was off, the action of step 3 WILL TURN IT ON
So far, no problem....
ForEnvoronment, Intelli-Volume and Replay Gain -
1. Select the DSP icon and the menu appears
2. Select Environment, Intelli-Volume or Replay Gain and the drop down appears
3. Make a selection from the drop down and the description DOES'NT change to your selection
4. If DSP was off, the action from Step 3 WILL NOT TURN IT ON
Jim
Post by: SeanC on February 06, 2002, 06:12:56 pm
Post by: Cmagic on February 06, 2002, 10:56:08 pm
Thanks folks
Post by: dragyn on February 06, 2002, 11:26:22 pm
c:\mp3s;c:\mp3s\artist\album. files in c:\mp3s\ do not show, artist\album works.
How about creating a header in the list
Post by: dragyn on February 06, 2002, 11:35:59 pm
It should sort the files in the parent directory, then move on to the subdirectories.
What I see it's doing is sorting the parent directory (only a few files, in order), going to sub directories (lists all of them fine) then back to the parent directory with a few yet sorted files.
REQ: There should also be a check box next to "Sorting" in the tree options to turn it on/off without having to remove everything.
Post by: dragyn on February 06, 2002, 11:48:14 pm
File properties" and show "Statistics" should be shown on every right click (Media Library, View Schemes). I'm finding myself having to goto the menu bar to get to it when it's listed everywhere else.
Post by: WeeHappyPixie on February 07, 2002, 12:28:53 am
I have uninstalled the program, deleted any left over files and cleaned the registry before doing a full reinstall after reboot and still does not work.
It says items are available but when I select them it just sits there and then after a few mins says program not responding.
Very annoying when I am currently connected via 56k modem and have to download 8meg updates every 3 - 4 days to try new builds.
John.
Post by: ZRocker on February 07, 2002, 03:25:32 am
1. Resizeable dialog (so we can view all columns easily)...remember the settings/column sizes (of course)
2. On the detail breakdowns like Album / Artist List, add stats columns for total MB and total running time per line item.
3. On the detail breakdowns, add a bottom row that is the totals for the stats columns (# files, total MB and total running time)
Post by: KingSparta on February 07, 2002, 03:25:46 am
MJ Should not allow me to turn them on.
Post by: Victor on February 07, 2002, 04:47:34 am
See what My Compter|properties tells you. It may be that if the beta is upgraded with the GA version rather than a fresh install, it may retain the registry entries for win 2000.
Victor
Post by: Ged|PLS|H on February 07, 2002, 04:57:23 am
2. 128 bps mp3 playing showing as 13min 51 seconds actually 27 mins 41 seconds
Post by: JimH on February 07, 2002, 05:22:01 am
Compatibility mode settings?
Post by: IQ10 on February 07, 2002, 06:11:18 am
Have you considered the possibility that your copy of XP may not be authentic, or may be buggy.
No problem. Either return it or spray it.
[former member]
Post by: Xstatic on February 07, 2002, 06:54:40 am
no you can't, it says "no updates available at this time"
Post by: JimH on February 07, 2002, 07:02:38 am
Our fault. Check for updates should work now.
Post by: scub on February 07, 2002, 07:13:10 am
Post by: KingSparta on February 07, 2002, 07:17:09 am
>>See what My Compter|properties
Microsoft Windows XP
Professional
Version 2002
Jim
thats it, Compatibility Mode Is Checked For Windows 2000
when unchecking, the mega-me skin is gone...
maybe a better way of checking for Windows XP, since the windows 2000 compatability mode still don't get along with the skins.
thanks for the tip
Post by: scub on February 07, 2002, 07:18:25 am
Post by: Ubae on February 07, 2002, 10:50:09 am
CD Text isn't working for me and my Lite-On LTR-16102B. I'm not using the generic drivers
Something seems screwy with statistics...
Post by: Cmagic on February 07, 2002, 11:25:33 am
8.0.199 still have the same problem with mpc plugin 1.7.9e:
does not report format in properties tab and does not return bitrate
on import. MJ8.0.189 was doing fine with same plugin.
Post by: marysm on February 07, 2002, 12:51:02 pm
"MEDIA JUKEBOX caused an invalid page fault in module PLAYBACKENG.DLL at 017f:01f03d8d."
This happened in previous builds.
Win98, #00mhx, 168mb ram
Post by: Charlemagne 8 on February 07, 2002, 01:16:02 pm
When you have a playlist ready to burn, select it and click the CD burner icon (or select "Write (burn) CD" from the tools menu). The CD Writer dialog will appear.
No it doesn't. Everything appears to work normally. My CD/RW is detected. All MJ does is show that the playlist is in the M: drive (it's not) and nothing else happens. "Device - CD Burner (M: )>" is at the top of the left window but "Start" is never an option. I know it's been a couple of weeks since I burned a CD but surely I haven't forgotten how THIS soon.
Post by: elpaolo on February 07, 2002, 04:14:58 pm
When is the projected finish? What is the time line?
It's looking really good....the Stats add is nice, indeed.
Collage number 1 still needs help initializing in WinXP Pro....it's been broken for quite some time.
Also, is there any way...in MJ or another program....to speed up ID3 tag editting and saving...saving to many or large files in particular....
Long live MJ.
Post by: KingSparta on February 07, 2002, 04:28:54 pm
or am i missing something?
Post by: Amun on February 07, 2002, 05:09:24 pm
I find that MJ 8 beta doesn't like the only archive I had of the rrg from version 6.
Is it supposed to recognize older licenses, or is that a bug?
Thanks
Post by: Sudadon on February 07, 2002, 06:48:26 pm
Post by: Doof on February 07, 2002, 07:13:33 pm
Post by: dragyn on February 08, 2002, 01:25:58 am
If you have crossfading on and switch songs, notice where the song is compared to the time. Now stop everything and play the song again. You'll notice the times don't match up. It can be a second off or even upwards to 6 secs.
MJ is starting the clock before the buffer runs out on the previous song.
Using WinXp Pro on 2 machines, 2 different sound cards -> same results.
Post by: JimH on February 08, 2002, 04:02:02 am
Please post your ID3 question in a separate thread.
Release is probably about a month away. This build seems reasonably stable and stability will now be our main task. In a week or two, the beta will go on the download page. Two or three weeks there, and we'll be ready. Probably.
Post by: ZRocker on February 08, 2002, 06:00:50 am
1. With MJ running on my Win2K Pro PC, MJ interferes with external CD burning software. With MJ not running, no burning problems using external CD burning software. I use MyCD Pro v2.0 (Veritas) to burn data CD-RWs occasionally. Last night, I was getting failures attempting to burn (some kind of command failure) when using MyCD Pro...first time in 18 months I've EVER seen that (seriously). It was driving me nuts...2 brand new CD-RW disks and the same problem. So, I thought for a bit and stopped MJ. Using the same CD-RW disks, the burns finished without error. I never, ever saw this problem using MJ v7.x with the same version of MyCD Pro.
Post by: aRCLiGHT on February 08, 2002, 06:47:27 am
Post by: Ilmar on February 08, 2002, 10:04:27 am
You got so close to getting the satistics just right, but missed...
Just need an album list option with the number of files in each .... and it would be perfect!
Category Value
Files 22736
Artists 3673
Albums 3673
File Size 124.173GB
Duration 1612:22:41
Reckon I have a lot less albums than artists though..
Great step in the right direction, and the fade out on stop/exit is brilliant!
Post by: Doof on February 08, 2002, 10:42:39 am
Both collages are working fine for me on two different systems, both running XP Pro. What exactly isn't it doing for you?
Post by: Ilmar on February 08, 2002, 11:14:42 am
3. Fixed: Shell Extensions would not work with large number of files
When you select 6 files in Windows explorer, which are also in track order, and select MJ>
lay the play order is 6,1,2,3,4,5 This also happens when you select MJ>Add to playing now...This has been the same all through Versions 8.....
Ilmar
Post by: Shotgun2 on February 08, 2002, 11:45:07 am
What to do?
Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.199
CPU: Intel Pentium II 348 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 261 MB, Free - 83 MB
Resource Info: System - 69 %, GDI - 85 %, User - 69 %
OS: Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Internet Explorer: 5.50.4134.0600
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4704.1100
Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4134.600
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3612.170
Post by: lise on February 08, 2002, 12:05:37 pm
Post by: ZRocker on February 08, 2002, 12:08:47 pm
When you select 6 files in Windows explorer, which are also in track order, and select MJ>lay the play order is 6,1,2,3,4,5 This also happens when you select MJ>Add to playing now...
That's not an MJ bug...it's a Windows feature. You have to select in reverse order (6 to 1) and make sure you right-click the 1st track when you are choosing the MJ Play/Add To Playing option. Because you track 6 was the last track highlighted (selected) and, probably, the track you right-clicked on, Windows conveniently sends it as the first track (to any application in drag-n-drop).
Post by: Ilmar on February 08, 2002, 12:34:17 pm
That one has been driving me crazy...
Just as well Gates' boys are having a month off..
Another one for their interact forum site.. ha! as if they would ever dare!
Post by: Ton-Up on February 08, 2002, 01:40:57 pm
Just to back up your report of errors with importing while ripping CDs. I reported it a few days ago although no one else was able to confirm it at the time.
Post by: aRCLiGHT on February 08, 2002, 02:48:39 pm
Post by: Doof on February 10, 2002, 12:30:33 pm
Post by: dragyn on February 10, 2002, 01:34:14 pm
If you change the display name and add a component, it reverts back to the original
(I'm using 198 cause of the explorer bug but I don't think this has been fix in this version)
Post by: dragyn on February 10, 2002, 03:05:09 pm
Media Jukebox 7.1 Install Wizard failed to install a neccessary file.
Sorce: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\Setup\RegControl.dll
Destination: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\RegControl.dll
This was after a reboot.
Post by: dragyn on February 10, 2002, 03:20:25 pm
Create a smart list as follows: lastplayed=<=86400
This will show only songs played within the last day. This works.
Set the playback filter to skip this smartlist.
Go into Media Library and start playing X. X will show in the smartlist. Before X finishes playing, start playing Y. You'll see Y in the smartlist.
Now hit Stop. You'll notice that the icon for X and Y isn't faded.
Start playing X again, it plays (not supposed to), same with Y.
Now play either X, Y, or a new song (Z) and let it finish (or move the slider toward the end to finish)
Once it finishes, X, Y, and Z are updated and won't play (like it should)
If you do a restart, they get updated aswell.
Post by: Matt on February 11, 2002, 06:23:59 am
Could you email me at matt @ jriver.com and we'll dig a little more about the DSP not working.
Thanks.
-Matt
Post by: Doof on February 11, 2002, 06:53:20 am
If you leave MJ playing for an extended amount of time with visualizations running, MJ will crash in module (I think - can't quite remember) vis_studio.dll.
This is especially true for full screen mode, but I've seen it even in mini-me.
Post by: Rüdiger from Vienna on February 11, 2002, 08:05:14 am
WHY?
Rüdiger
Post by: jfmus on February 11, 2002, 09:09:56 am
Thanks....
Post by: dragyn on February 11, 2002, 11:08:37 am