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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 20 for Windows => Topic started by: barocu on January 20, 2015, 10:40:10 am

Title: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: barocu on January 20, 2015, 10:40:10 am: How does the converter works when converting from a dsd to dsd? It converts through PCM? And what happens when using DSP effects? For example gain in equalizer.
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: Matt on January 20, 2015, 10:50:22 am: If you bitstream, the DSD passes through untouched.

If you don't bitstream, there's PCM stage in the middle that's 64-bit and high sample rate that handles all the effects.
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: dtc on January 20, 2015, 11:38:34 am: Matt - in another thread it was said that converting a dff file to a dsf file went through a PCM conversion. Is that in fact the case? If I understand correctly, both formats have the same data chunk, so it would seem that just changing the header would not require a PCM conversion. This becomes an issue since some DSD downloads are in dff format and most people would not want a PCM conversion to simply convert to dsf to add tags. Thanks for your insight.
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: barocu on January 20, 2015, 12:43:51 pm: Quote from: Matt on January 20, 2015, 10:50:22 am
If you bitstream, the DSD passes through untouched.

If you don't bitstream, there's PCM stage in the middle that's 64-bit and high sample rate that handles all the effects.

Matt, I was talking about converting, not about playing. For example DSD256 in DSD128.
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: Matt on January 20, 2015, 01:14:20 pm: Quote from: dtc on January 20, 2015, 11:38:34 am
Matt - in another thread it was said that converting a dff file to a dsf file went through a PCM conversion. Is that in fact the case? If I understand correctly, both formats have the same data chunk, so it would seem that just changing the header would not require a PCM conversion. This becomes an issue since some DSD downloads are in dff format and most people would not want a PCM conversion to simply convert to dsf to add tags. Thanks for your insight.

We have a PCM stage in the middle of the format converter. I don't recommend it for DSD to DSD conversions.
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: barocu on January 20, 2015, 02:11:03 pm: Thanks for the clarification, it's all I wanted to know.
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: dean70 on January 20, 2015, 03:33:12 pm: maybe a direct DSD->DSD or SACD->DSD conversion (aka "bitstream") without the intermediate PCM stage could be considered?
Title: Re: DSD to DSD conversion
Post by: Hendrik on January 20, 2015, 04:25:37 pm: Unfortunately, such a conversion does not fit into MCs current architecture at all, so the chances are rather slim.