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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 20 for Windows => Topic started by: MikeO on May 12, 2015, 05:45:51 am

Title: Network Streamers
Post by: MikeO on May 12, 2015, 05:45:51 am
I am thinking of buying a dedicated Network Streamer (Audiolab M-NET that matches my M_DAC DAC).

If I run JRiver on my PC and setup Media Network , I can manage the JRiver instance with JRemote and stream from my PC

What controls how the streamer reacts , does JRiver have total control over the output and the streamer merely acts as dumb component preparing the signal for the DAC with minimal signal interference ?

I have tried the concept using my Mede8er and it works fine . The Mede8er suffers from audio gaps due to the processer. Every track change causes a re-render of the screen and a small gap (small but V irritating)

Will a Network Streamer get past this problem ?

Also I am using Wi Fi 300 bps, I assume this is fast enough for audio , I know its not good enough for video (Blurays).

Is the ID acting in this way too ?

Cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: Vincent Kars on May 12, 2015, 06:45:07 am
The Audiolab is DLNA
A lot of DLNA devices don't support gapless playback
Check if it does.
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: AndrewFG on May 12, 2015, 07:47:05 am
Do you really need  streamer? Perhaps you can plug your PC with MC straight into your DAC?
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: MikeO on May 12, 2015, 10:08:41 am
@Vincent

More research needed here , I have tried using a Mede8er which I know has a Gapless issue so I expected poor gapless performance . I was not aware it was common in DLNA devices

@ Andrew

That was he set up but I am trying to rationalise and "pretty up" the hi fi system. I just bought an ONKYO 838 receiver and wanted to match looks etc.

Maybe back to the laptop is an option.

Mike
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: AndrewFG on May 12, 2015, 03:38:15 pm
You could consider buying a very nice looking HTPC and run MC on that. It's probably cheaper than buying a dedicated streamer..
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: MikeO on May 13, 2015, 04:41:30 am
Hi

That's what I was trying to do but in South Africa components are a bit thin on the ground. I would need to build it or have it built.

I am trying to simplify life to make it a switch on , navigate & listen type arrangement, not dig around in software  ;D

As an alternative I looked for a "product" I could just buy. All HT installers here seem only to consider Video and use either Mede8er or Dune Media Players .

Both of these have "the gapless issue". As they re render the screen on track change they blip for a split second. There are ways around it but the gui is still a dog compared with MC and the Remote app doesn't hold a candle to JRemote so

They seem to forget Audio, but some are using Network Streamers hence the idea.

All in all I want an easy way to keep running JRiver with prebuilt kit

Mike
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: AndrewFG on May 13, 2015, 05:04:49 am
I don't work for JRiver. But you could consider one of these...

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=42.0
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: JimH on May 13, 2015, 07:35:08 am
This is our hardware solution:

www.jriver.com/Id
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: MikeO on May 13, 2015, 09:38:23 am
JRiver itself plays gapless even when the tracks are individual files.

If I set up JRiver as a DLNA server and use the ID as the renderer will it also play gapless?

I assume I can connect a USB HDD directly to render Blu Ray rips ?

Cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: somebike on May 15, 2015, 04:57:32 pm
JRiver itself plays gapless even when the tracks are individual files.

If I set up JRiver as a DLNA server and use the ID as the renderer will it also play gapless?

I assume I can connect a USB HDD directly to render Blu Ray rips ?

Cheers

Mike

+1

And does that apply to all models including the Pi versions?  In other words, will it act as a gapless streamer to my DAC?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: JimH on May 15, 2015, 06:21:10 pm
As far as I know, the Id (including the Pi version) will play gaplessly.
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: MikeO on May 16, 2015, 06:29:15 am
Has anybody out there got any experience of this or can test this ??

I am close to buying but no gapless would be a show stopper for me

Cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Network Streamers
Post by: JimH on May 16, 2015, 06:47:14 am
I assume I can connect a USB HDD directly to render Blu Ray rips ?
I missed this question.  Sorry.  You can attach a USB drive and MC can import files from it.  Playing Blu-ray rips is something I haven't tried, and it might not work.  It certainly wouldn't work on a Pi.

Video does work, but I can't say whether all video works.