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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 22 for Windows => Topic started by: JimH on August 30, 2016, 09:12:38 am
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MC 22.0.22 and above allow you to view files associated with the file you're viewing.
Right click on the file and choose "View Extras". This menu is available whenever MC finds other files alongside the primary files.
It can be used, for example, to view a PDF file that is a digital copy of the CD booklet. Or it could be used to view artist images.
The files must be in the same directory.
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So far it's working well for me, I'm an easy user case since I don't make sub-sub folders for the ancillaries and I keep to normal formats
Great feature guys!
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I did mention that in the build thread, but this is a more appropriate in this topic and I apologize for the apparent cross-posting.
Most of my extras are in separate subfolders called "extras" or "scans". The content of those subfolders is accessible with JRemote, but not with this new feature using Media Player, as indicated in Jim's post. As this practice keeps my folders tidy, I wonder if this new feature could be extended to subfolders as well. It seems very strange to have this sort of behaviour asymmetry between Media Player and JRemote.
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Most of my extras are in separate subfolders called "extras" or "scans". The content of those subfolders is accessible with JRemote, but not with this new feature using Media Player, as indicated in Jim's post. As this practice keeps my folders tidy, I wonder if this new feature could be extended to subfolders as well. It seems very strange to have this sort of behaviour asymmetry between Media Player and JRemote.
Coming next build:
Changed: Sidecar searching for the "View Extras" menu also looks in subfolders called "Extras" or "Scans".
Just let us know if there are other common subfolder names.
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Coming next build:
Changed: Sidecar searching for the "View Extras" menu also looks in subfolders called "Extras" or "Scans".
Just let us know if there are other common subfolder names.
With pleasure:
pdf
pdfs
booklet
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pdf
pdfs
booklet
Thanks!
I added those three.
Just let us know if there are more.
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artwork, cover, covers
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Art
Cover scan(s)
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Alright. I added more. Coming next build:
Changed: Sidecar searching for the "View Extras" menu also looks in subfolders called "Extras", "Scans", "PDF", "PDFs", "Booklet", "Art", "Artwork", "Cover", "Covers", "Cover Scan", or "Cover Scans".
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Coming next build:
Changed: Sidecar searching for the "View Extras" menu also looks in subfolders called "Extras" or "Scans".
Just let us know if there are other common subfolder names.
wouldn't it be a lot more effective if there was a way to include all subfolders instead of all sorts of subfolders names?
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wouldn't it be a lot more effective if there was a way to include all subfolders instead of all sorts of subfolders names?
Probably not a good idea.
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Yeah, I have been known to accidently drop a whole "Movies to be sorted" directory into one specific movie directory and not notice for a while. That would have made everything in the "Movies to be sorted" directory into Extras! :o
I like this new functionality. I'm not using Extra files of any sort yet, but would like to with some music and movies. This will make it worthwhile.
Thanks.
PS:
- The first thing I noticed was that existing Cover Art sitting next to an audio file is included in the "Extras". That's okay, but I thought it might only show files not already shown as Cover Art. i.e. Just the extra files. That would make the functionality a bit messy though.
- It would be nice if MC had some indication that there were extra files available. Perhaps something like the little Play icon shown against each file change color, or had a fine colored line drawn around the edge. Something that doesn't take extra space preferably. But if existing Cover Art is shown as Extras, all files with Cover Art would have the indicator, making it meaningless.
- The next thing I noticed was that a MC22.0.22 Client wouldn't show Extras from a MC22.0.21 Server. Upgrading the MC Server didn't change this; there was no "View Extras" item on the right click menu of the MC Client.
- I also noticed that there was no filtering of any sort, other than to exclude other media files themselves in the directory (I think). So on the Server, if I right clicked a TV Series episode or the Series name, all the Episode Cover Art was shown in the View Extras menu item, as all Episodes and their Cover Art are in the one directory. Maybe the Extras file(s) names should start with the media file filename, and the View Extras option should filter to just files that begin with the same name?
- Finally when I viewed multiple albums for an Artist, right clicked on a track in their second album, viewed the Cover Art image, then exited the view, MC drop back to the Artist view but with the first Album selected. So the list of tracks dropped back to just those in the first Album for the Artist. It would be nice if MC returned to exactly the same state the View Extras fuction was launched from.
A good starting point, but maybe needs a little polishing. ;)
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Just make the list an option you can edit. Or just use the file type as a limitation
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Nice feature, I like it. However, some of the downloads I purchased have "folder.jpg" and "folder.pdf", which show up as "View folder" and "View folder" in the list. Please include file extensions.
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I like this feature too.
But I'm having trouble navigating. Once I'm viewing an image full screen, when I click, it zooms in very far. Then I can't zoom back out. Right clicking gives me a menu, including "image view options", but that selection does nothing.
I was hoping to be able to navigate from image to image, or PDF, etc... file to file. But it only seems to bring up one at a time and I can't figure out how to select more than one.
I'm not sure if this is just because I'm unfamiliar with the interface, or if it's because I'm using the Mac version, or if this is just how the current version works.
Can anyone offer guidance and/or confirm what I'm seeing?
Thanks,
Brian.
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Just make the list an option you can edit. Or just use the file type as a limitation
Yes, we already have this code existing for the "a, an, the, le, la" article list that users can edit.
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When an image is displayed, the first click should zoom in and the second one out. If it doesn't, then try escape or enter.
The number keys also work when an image is displayed. 0 is the original state, 1 through 9 zoom in where the cursor is.
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I like this feature too.
I was hoping to be able to navigate from image to image, or PDF, etc... file to file. But it only seems to bring up one at a time and I can't figure out how to select more than one.
This was a pretty good idea!
Coming next build:
Changed: When viewing a sidecar image with the View Extras menu, it will add all the images it found to the current playlist so you can switch between them like normal image playback.
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Nice feature, I like it. However, some of the downloads I purchased have "folder.jpg" and "folder.pdf", which show up as "View folder" and "View folder" in the list. Please include file extensions.
Coming next build we'll try it:
Changed: Added the extension to the list of View Extras menu choices.
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I think this menu should only appear if the filename matches the directory name.
So \Videos\Movie 123.mkv would not list any extras, but \Videos\Movie 123\Movie 123.mkv would.
Otherwise, can this be switched off?
It's just listing every single file that's in the same directory for me, even if it's unrelated.
If I right-click a movie, it gives me a list of every other movie in my library, since they're all in the same "movies" directory.
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I think this menu should only appear if the filename matches the directory name.
So \Videos\Movie 123.mkv would not list any extras, but \Videos\Movie 123\Movie 123.mkv would.
Otherwise, can this be switched off?
It's just listing every single file that's in the same directory for me, even if it's unrelated.
If I right-click a movie, it gives me a list of every other movie in my library, since they're all in the same "movies" directory.
I think it would make more sense, and would be easier overall, for you to put your related content into the same folders. You can use RMC. Asking to destroy this great functionality for all the other people who like it as it is is an imposition. I don't really see the devs making this an option to do it either way, which would be the best of both worlds.
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I think it would make more sense, and would be easier overall, for you to put your related content into the same folders. You can use RMC. Asking to destroy this great functionality for all the other people who like it as it is is an imposition. I don't really see the devs making this an option to do it either way, which would be the best of both worlds.
I think you misunderstood my suggestion/request.
I think this could be a very useful feature to have, but only if it looks for extras, instead of blindly listing all files in the same directory as an "extra" regardless of context.
If I have:
\Videos\Movie 1.mkv
\Videos\Movie 2.mkv
\Videos\Movie 3.mkv
\Videos\Movie 4.mkv
\Videos\Movie 5.mkv
Right-clicking any of these movies should not list all the other movies as "extras".
However if I have:
\Videos\Movie 1.mkv
\Videos\Movie 2.mkv
\Videos\Movie 3\Movie 3.mkv
\Deleted Scenes.mkv
\Interviews.mkv
\Trailers.mkv
\Booklet.pdf
\Videos\Movie 4.mkv
\Videos\Movie 5.mkv
Then Movie 3 should display a list of extras while the others should not.
It seems more logical to do it this way, where you only create an extra directory for files which do have extras, rather than having to create a unique directory for every single video that you import - whether that's a Movie, TV Episode, or other video - in order to prevent them being listed as "extras".
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When an image is displayed, the first click should zoom in and the second one out. If it doesn't, then try escape or enter.
For whatever reason, none of that "un-zooms". Escape, Enter, and (seemingly) double click, all exit Image viewing mode. I wonder if this is a Mac interface difference?
The number keys also work when an image is displayed. 0 is the original state, 1 through 9 zoom in where the cursor is.
All of that works except for 0. Zero (0) does nothing. The other keys zoom as advertised, and can be used to "un-zoom" after a click.
Brian.
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However if I have:
\Videos\Movie 1.mkv
\Videos\Movie 2.mkv
\Videos\Movie 3\Movie 3.mkv
\Deleted Scenes.mkv
\Interviews.mkv
\Trailers.mkv
\Booklet.pdf
\Videos\Movie 4.mkv
\Videos\Movie 5.mkv
Then Movie 3 should display a list of extras while the others should not.
I don't think that's the intention of the feature. I think it's intended to show related media that you would VIEW while listening to Audio. It probably should be turned off altogether for Video files.
There are other ways of grouping together related video files. Stacks are probably the most logical.
If you disagree, then your overall suggestion must make sense for all of the use cases. Simply asking for it to be changed, which breaks functionality for other people, but it still suits you, isn't a very friendly solution. Perhaps you hadn't seen it from that perspective. But that's how it appears to me because your suggestion would break essentially 100% of the cases on my system which work with the feature as it is intended to be used.
Brian.
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^ This raises a good point. If you use MC as a photo database you'll have folders with many jpegs or raw files. Right now View Extras builds a list of all the other photos in the folder. It should probably apply only when Media Type is Audio.
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^ This raises a good point. If you use MC as a photo database you'll have folders with many jpegs or raw files. Right now View Extras builds a list of all the other photos in the folder. It should probably apply only when Media Type is Audio.
That's already been changed and will be coming in the next build.
Cheers.
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I don't think that's the intention of the feature. I think it's intended to show related media that you would VIEW while listening to Audio. It probably should be turned off altogether for Video files.
There are other ways of grouping together related video files. Stacks are probably the most logical.
OK, I see what the issue is.
The only place I have been seeing this "extras" menu appear in my library has been in all of my Film/TV/Video library views, where it's listing every single movie at once, or all episodes in a TV season etc.
So you can see why that might be problematic.
The way it works right now does make sense in the context of viewing supplemental files while listening to an album, such as quick access to a booklet.
So the current behavior is fine as long as it only applies to audio files, and the list it presents is filtered to only display non-audio files.
Perhaps what I have suggested - filtering so that it only displays an "extras" list if file name = folder name - may be possible for video files though?
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That's already been changed and will be coming in the next build.
Cheers.
That's a little unfortunate. I was hoping to use it for video too. A lot of BluRays and DVDs come with stills and extra material. It would be nice to use an MC movie view and be able to browse those extras without having to watch the main feature.
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That's a little unfortunate. I was hoping to use it for video too. A lot of BluRays and DVDs come with stills and extra material. It would be nice to use an MC movie view and be able to browse those extras without having to watch the main feature.
I agree. The functionality just needs to be thought out a bit more to make it work for any media format. For example, my suggestion above:
Maybe the Extras file(s) names should start with the media file filename, and the View Extras option should filter to just files that begin with the same name?
So the movie "Die Hard" with a file name "Die Hard.mkv" would have extras named "Die Hard_booklet.pdf", "Die Hard - original poster.jpg", "Die Hard review.doc" etc., and only those files would show in the "View Extras" menu.
I do tend to put movies in their own directory though, so \movies\Die Hard\Die Hard.mkv, \movies\Die Hard\booklet.pdf, \movies\Die Hard\original poster.jpg, \movies\Die Hard\review.doc, etc. would also work for me. But that wouldn't work with TV Episodes for a Season, which nearly always sit in one directory together. Making a directory for each episode wouldn't seem productive.
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I think you misunderstood my suggestion/request.
I think this could be a very useful feature to have, but only if it looks for extras, instead of blindly listing all files in the same directory as an "extra" regardless of context.
I don't think I misunderstood. Thanks for the more elaborate explanation - that is how I envisaged what you were saying. I think this is potentially a great new feature, and it's clear that many of us see ourselves using it in different ways. Fortunately we have this forum to discuss our ideas, and maybe it will take a few iterations, and possibly a few reversals, to settle on a feature set and mechanism of action that suits the most people. Our disagreements are perhaps necessary to make the feature even stronger as a finished product.
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In v. 22.0.21 using Extras I can't move to another pic; neither PgDn/Up seem to work nor right click>Next/Prev.
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I agree...In a music albums I use only subfolder "Art"
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This is great! Thanks for the work on this.
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Should this work on an MC client?
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bump
Any ideas about the problem I stated above? Can't move forward or back in Extras (though I checked again from Images and the controls work fine).
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In v. 22.0.21 using Extras I can't move to another pic; neither PgDn/Up seem to work nor right click>Next/Prev.
You just don't have a new enough build.
From the history:
22.0.24 (9/2/2016)
Changed: When viewing a sidecar image with the View Extras menu, it will add all the images it found to the current playlist so you can switch between them like normal image playback.
Hopefully that build will go public in a few days.
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Thanks, I'll have to wait then...
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Is View Extras going to allow viewing of multiple images in tags (back cover, label, etc.)? I always wondered why MC ignores every image in the tags except front cover.
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Thankyou JimH & Team,
This was the very first question I had when joining the forum/buying JRiver back in July. I posted a question without much response on how to achieve exactly this. Picture and artwork from my music albums appearing under Audio and not in Pictures library. I can see it would be useful for Video library also. Thanks heaps for this feature - now I have to upgrade to V22!!
Keep up the great work. David
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Should this work on an MC client?
... because it isn't working for me. (22.0.21)
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Doesn't work for me either - but to be useful it should.
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Another vote for extras to be available on the client (at least a client on the same LAN). I always play stuff from a client (server is fully headless, without soundcard etc).
Also I can't scroll through extras even though MC is reporting the files. (running version 22.22.0.21).
Edward
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Excellent feature. I have been using a system I created myself to view all my album artwork for some time now.
Although this is way easier and convenient, when you make changes in the next build, I think it might be convenient to have view sub folder/then view all as a slideshow. Then the album art can be displayed while your album is playing.
As this is what I can do now, also for those who like to create a PDF and view album art(Booklet) that way.
I found Cute PDF works very well, download Cute PDF (Install)
select all images in folder/right click/select print,
in print box popup / select Cute PDF as printer
and print/your PDF Booklet is then created,this works very well.
And thanks to Jim /I mentioned a while back about more features for the Audio enthusiast,and I am seeing that in MC22 / so I wish to say, it is always appreciated
Thank you
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Finally, been waiting for this, the #1 reason is so I can associate wiki album info pages to their respective albums in my collection. The feature is absolute killer for gleaming info about albums.
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Finally, been waiting for this, the #1 reason is so I can associate wiki album info pages to their respective albums in my collection. The feature is absolute killer for gleaming info about albums.
Actually, JRiver has had that specific capability for years, without any need to pre-emptively download anything - see:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,83371.0.html
(And glynor should once again move that thread, to this Forum.)
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Itīs a great feature. I really like it.
I have some albums with digital booklets (booklet.pdf). But the most albums in my collection donīt have a digital booklet.
Is it possible to create a view, that shows me only the albums, which contain booklet.pdf?
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Is it possible to create a view, that shows me only the albums, which contain booklet.pdf?
You should be able to test for the existence of the booklet.pdf and if it is there, include the album in your view.
Try using the IsMissing (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Test_and_Comparison_Functions#IsMissing) command, with a dash in front of it so that it actually tests "Is Not Missing", or just test for a negative (0) result. I thought there was an IfExists command which would be easier logically, but I don't see it. IsMissing should work for you.
There is a good example on the page I linked to, for using the command in a search or view.
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When will this be published - I'd like to try it out. 22.0.21 is still the official download version so it has not made it to the offical version as yet?
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I'd like to try the update, too. I see 22.0.23 is being used???
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wouldn't it be a lot more effective if there was a way to include all subfolders instead of all sorts of subfolders names?
Please include "Album Artworks". I have thousands of subfolders with the folder name "Album Artworks" where I store my scanned album booklets. PLZ x 1mil :-)
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Please include "Album Artworks". I have thousands of subfolders with the folder name "Album Artworks" where I store my scanned album booklets. PLZ x 1mil :-)
Coming next build:
Changed: Added the subfolder "Album Artworks" to the View Extras search.
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Coming next build:
Changed: Sidecar searching for the "View Extras" menu also looks in subfolders called "Extras" or "Scans".
Just let us know if there are other common subfolder names.
Please include "Album Artworks". I have thousands of subfolders with the folder name "Album Artworks" where I store my scanned album booklets. PLZ x 1mil :-)
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Hi,
Could you add ''(artwork)'' too ?
Thanks !
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Please include "Album Artworks". I have thousands of subfolders with the folder name "Album Artworks" where I store my scanned album booklets. PLZ x 1mil :-)
I have to say that I doubt there is anyone else in the world who has chosen "Album Artworks" as the name of a folder.
There is a great free program called "Bulk Rename" and you can use that to rename all instances on your disk of "Album Artworks" to one of the strings supported by MC22.
Having said that, this should be a user-specified field, exactly like "a, an, the" articles is a user-specifield field (and the same code could be repurposed).
Another possbility in the code would be to use any folder whose name contained the strings already mentioned ("scan", "artwork", etc.)
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Having said that, this should be a user-specified field, exactly like "a, an, the" articles is a user-specifield field (and the same code could be repurposed).
Any chance for this suggestion to be implemented ?
Thanks !
P.S. It seems that JRemote already does something similar with the "Asset" feature.
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This looks interesting, but perhaps a little awkward to use generally. What about the concept of making the displayed artwork active, so a click on it brings up the alternative artwork.
I may be spoiled, when I built my own program on Crestron system, I had the display picture active and a tap on it showed the back side. Sort of intuitive perhaps. Collection.com does this for their artwork.
Harroun
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I'm enjoying this feature. Could you add it to the context menu when right-clicking the album cover in the Player view?
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^ That's a great idea. For me, the whole reason to use View Extras is to get info on the currently playing album. Linking it with the Playing Now context menu is a great way to access it.
Brian.
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I'm a little confused because the "View Extras" menu does show up if you right-click a file in Playing Now.
So what are you talking about?
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He (we) mean the context menu that comes up when you right click on the Cover Art display in Playing Now. The one that has Cover Art Scale, and Cover Art Style submenus on it. View Extras would be really cool to have as one of the top level menu items there.
Brian.
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How about making an addition to the ripping CD menues to scan and store the back side of the artwork in the proper place. Doing this sort of thing later is big pain in the back side. Something I may be stuck with, I have loaded all my previous scanned artwork manually when ripping the CD's. Now that there is way for showing the back side, I have to go back over 5000 bits of artwork and store in the right place. Ugh!!!
Harroun
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Could this be used to play movie trailers?
M:\media\movies\movietitle\movietitle.mkv
M:\media\movies\movietitle\movietitle_trailer.mkv
Rightclick on movietitle.mkv would allow click and watch trailer?
This would be next best thing if we can't click on fields containing URLs in theater view.
If so, please make this possible from theater view when a specific movie's info page is displayed.
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That video sidecar / trailer one seems a little tricky. If a video showed every video next to it, using the "View Extras" for a home video sitting in a folder with lots of other videos would just be a total mess.
I suppose it could only find videos that end with _trailer or something but then it's so special cased it's almost worthless.
Thoughts?
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I agree. I'd bet many people have a folder with dozens of videos and not a separate subfolder for each movie.
I'd rather not store trailers on hard drive. Clickable URL fields in theater view that would play trailer immediately if a youtube url or bring up webpage if imdb url would be my preferred change.
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Without thinking through all the implications, I think the View Extras functionality would work better if it only showed files that began with the same name.
So a movie such as "The Seven Heros.mkv" (or AVI, MP4, JTV, etc.) in a folder full of movies, would only show files named "The Seven Heros*.*"
i.e.
"The Seven Heros_Poster.jpg"
"The Seven Heros_backstory.pdf"
"The Seven Heros_trailer.mp4"
"The Seven Heros_trailer2.avi"
etc.
I think that would fix some of the earlier problems mentioned, but would make some special cases for audio with "folder.jpg" files and such. You could also just specify that MC should search the folder and all subfolders of the folder the media file is in, probably just one level down for speed reasons, and you wouldn't need all the special case subfolder searching, such as "Extras", "Album Artworks", "Scans", "Artwork", etc. Then anybody could add any subfolder they wished to, and as long as the Extra files started with the name of the media, they would be shown via the "View Extras" menu.
Then I would like to be able to invoke a Trailer (or two) from within the information display for a movie in Theatre View, either via the top menu, or preferably via clicking OK on an info field. Trailers would be imported into MC like other videos, and I would exclude them from the Movie view, but would also create a view of just Trailers, to browse through, or just as a "quick fix" of entertainment. Some trailers are very entertaining, and I could imagine watching a sequence of, say, Marvel Trailers instead of watching a whole movie.
I have too many directories with multiple movies in them for View Extras to be useful at the moment, home movies being a specific example, but a bunch of others as well. I am cleaning them all up and moving each video to its own directory progressively, but that is going to take some time. Plus I probably won't do that for home movies. They sit in a directory based on category.
Of course if the above was implemented, then the RM&CF function would have to, optionally, rename all Extras files, at least the first part of them. It is a challenge, isn't it. ;D
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Without thinking through all the implications, I think the View Extras functionality would work better if it only showed files that began with the same name.
This wouldn't work for me. I really like the "View Extras" capability, as I often have scans of inserts in a directory. I don't always name them the same way, for a variety of reasons, e.g., I don't want to keep repeating a long title name that in effect makes it harder to find things. So, sometimes, it's just "booklet.pdf" or "The Story of...". I use this a lot for audio, not at all for video.
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I've been looking for a way to quickly play a trailer for a movie for years. I've tried placing the trailer in the same folder as the video, and also in an "Extras" sub-folder. The trailer has the exact same name as the video file, except a .mp4 extension instead of an .mkv extension. What am I doing wrong?
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Thanks for this feature. This is something I've wanted for a long time :)
It works great as long as you have the dedicated folder with "extras" in the same folder as the music files. For me (and I suspect a lot of other users) there is a problem when you have multi disc albums and the tracks are sorted into separate folders.
So for a 2-disc album I have 3 folders:
CD1
CD2
covers
In this case I won't be able to see the pictures in the "covers" folder since that folder is not together with the tracks.
I can of course change this if I move and bundle all tracks together into one folder, but wanted to check first if there is any other solution. Would it be possible to have the program check a step up in the folder tree for a folder with the appropriate name?
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We could possibly add ..\ to the list of subfolders to search so that we'd search the path above the current file.
Would that do what you wanted?
I'm trying to think if there are any gotchas to that, but I haven't really thought of any.
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Jim says you have it like this:
Parent folder
Artist folder
Album 1
Album 2
Cover
So then my idea wouldn't work since that would only search the artist folder.
Is that how you have files structured?
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This is my folder structure (for a 2-disc album):
Parent folder
Artist
Album
CD1
CD2
covers
So, I guess the program would have to first go up one step ..\ and then do the usual search for the various "extras-folder" names (covers/cover art/artwork etc etc).
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I am not able to get the feature to work. What am I doing wrong? Seems on need to upgrade to MC22 on server and not just client.
My PC runs J River 22 and accesses the J River 21 Library on my music server on home LAN. Do I need MC22 on the server, too? Perhaps that is the issue.
Folder structure:
Artist
Album, Disc 1
track 1.flac
track N.flac
backcover.jpg
cover.jpg
disc.jpg
pg1.jpg
Album, Disc 2
track 1. flac
Some albums use:
Artist
Album
SACD Stereo
track1.dsf
SACD Multi-Channel
track2.dsf
Art
cover.png
disc.png
The above seems to have the same 2 CD folder issue as prior post but I don't have as many in this structure.
I also use .PNG files. Will that file type work?
I can only view the cover art which I have assigned to the albums and J River stores those pics somewhere else.
I love this feature on FOOBAR 2000...just click the cover to sequence through pics.
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My PC runs J River 22 and accesses the J River 21 Library on my music server on home LAN. Do I need MC22 on the server, too? Perhaps that is the issue.
Yes you will have to have MC22 on the server as this is a new MC22 feature. Get the latest version and install on the server and upgrade your client.
Get it from the link below.
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,109099.0.html
On your server after the upgrade make sure you disable the MC21 server startup by going through the GUI to
Tools/Options/Startup/Windows Startup
and select Nothing
Ross
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He (we) mean the context menu that comes up when you right click on the Cover Art display in Playing Now. The one that has Cover Art Scale, and Cover Art Style submenus on it. View Extras would be really cool to have as one of the top level menu items there.
Brian.
Agree with this. It's how I envisioned this would work if the option to view additional images associated with an album was implemented. Since this menu was (before "View Extras" was added) the main way to "tinker" with and view the cover art, it would make sense to add the "View Extras" to it.
Also... how it works now is that when you double click on the cover art (in Playing Now) it will display the cover art in full screen. It would be great if it would also work the same way as clicking "View Extras", so when you double click the cover art, you could also view all the images (the extras) and not only the dedicated cover art file.
About the feature itself: It's currently a bit restricted in the way that it forces users to have the extra material (images, PDF's etc) sorted in a specific way, which is a bit different from how Media Center otherwise works, where you can basically dump and scatter your files anywhere and the program will find them through certain set ups and pointers. Cover art itself don't have to be in the same folder as the tracks, for instance. You can use the "Add From File..." command which opens up a window where you can browse through your computer for the desired file. Would it be possible to have something similar for extras? "Add Extras From Files" for instance, which in this case would function in the same way, but you could select multiple files (wherever they are located)?
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Would it be possible for the "View Extras" menu to also list any document files (specifically, *.rtf) found in the same folder (or recursively) as a music file?
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Would it be possible for the "View Extras" menu to also list any document files (specifically, *.rtf) found in the same folder (or recursively) as a music file?
Oh, I should also mention is that what I'm really angling for is for JRemote to then list the RTF file as well, being able to kick off a viewer on the iPad to read such files.
Thanks for pondering it.
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Audio:
For lots of music album folders I have extra booklet scans zipped in a file named artwork.zip (to avoid so many file fragments on the disc).
Would it be possible to support zip archives for the artwork?
Video:
Inside a MyBlockbuster sub-folder for a MyBlockbuster.2016.1080p.mkv (having MyBlockbuster (2016) in the mkv field file title) there are sometimes extra files like MyBlockbuster_making of.2016.1080p.mkv and MyBlockbuster_inverview with the producer.2016.1080p.mkv.
For now I enter MyBlockbuster into the series field and have made an entry series under Theater View -> Videos -> Movies -> Name. Not perfect, but it works as long as the series field is filled with the sub-folder name for all movies. BTW, it would be great if the series field could be pre-filled with the sub-folder name by default.
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Would it be possible for the "View Extras" menu to also list any document files (specifically, *.rtf) found in the same folder (or recursively) as a music file?
Next build:
Changed: Added RTF to the list of extensions the View Extras menu searches for.
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Changed: Added RTF to the list of extensions the View Extras menu searches for.
Great!
Thanks for such a fast response,
Matt
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Can this feature be expanded to include extra material from a DVD (e.g. 'making of' documentaries)? I have these in an 'Extras' subfolder, so the thumbnail images are picked up when I click View Extras, but not the actual video files (mkv).
More generally, an elegant way of handling this content in standard and theatre views would be amazing (I'm currently experimenting with glynor's method (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,102114.msg708422.html#msg708422) of tagging extra content).
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Can this feature be expanded to include extra material from a DVD (e.g. 'making of' documentaries)? I have these in an 'Extras' subfolder, so the thumbnail images are picked up when I click View Extras, but not the actual video files (mkv).
More generally, an elegant way of handling this content in standard and theatre views would be amazing (I'm currently experimenting with glynor's method (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,102114.msg708422.html#msg708422) of tagging extra content).
I'm not sure how showing videos when you right-click a video would work. Because for example I have a pile of movies sitting next to each other on the hard drive. If they all started showing up in the View Extras menu, it would be kind of overwhelming!
If you have some clever idea, please share.
Thanks.
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For lots of music album folders I have extra booklet scans zipped in a file named artwork.zip (to avoid so many file fragments on the disc).
Would it be possible to support zip archives for the artwork?
Coming next build:
NEW: The View extras menu looks for a zip file named "Artwork.zip" and shows the artwork in the zip file if it exists.
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I like Cryptographer's idea (from the other thread) of showing the Extras as Theater View background images while songs from that album are playing in Theater View mode.
Anyone else like that idea?
Brian.
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How can I burn high resolution audio files to a DVD or Blu-ray disc for playback in a Blu-ray or DVD player?
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Try burning a Data disc instead of an Audio disc. The player might work with it.
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I tried that. My Oppo wouldn't play it. There should be a way to do it as a video disc but it won't let me burn music files to DVD video. Maybe 23 will add this feature.
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Can this feature be expanded to include extra material from a DVD (e.g. 'making of' documentaries)? I have these in an 'Extras' subfolder, so the thumbnail images are picked up when I click View Extras, but not the actual video files (mkv).
More generally, an elegant way of handling this content in standard and theatre views would be amazing (I'm currently experimenting with glynor's method (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,102114.msg708422.html#msg708422) of tagging extra content).
I'm not sure how showing videos when you right-click a video would work. Because for example I have a pile of movies sitting next to each other on the hard drive. If they all started showing up in the View Extras menu, it would be kind of overwhelming!
If you have some clever idea, please share.
Thanks.
I'll admit I was purely thinking about my own use case (primarily watching TV/Movies in Theatre View) and folder structure, in which each movie resides in its own folder and any bonus features live in an Extras subfolder within each movie folder. Anything in the Extras folder could appear in the View Extras list (and ideally an Extras tab for the selected Movie in Theatre View).
I run MC on another PC for listening to music and can appreciate the new functionality in that setting, so I'm not ungrateful of View Extras in its current guise! But as has already been discussed in this thread, it seems some refinement is required to work as some people would like/expect for different types of media (and in the different views).
Thinking about this some more, tagging may be a better way to populate the View Extras list, rather than looking at special Extras/Scans folders. Maybe an appropriate tag exists already, but a new [Extras Parent] tag could be filled with the [Name] of the 'parent' movie/album to which the extra content relates. Items could be automatically tagged if they reside in an Extras subfolder, thus retaining the existing functionality.
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In the Artist, Album and Genre columns there are this Play symbol to the left of the text which makes the view switch to "3D Almbums" view.
Question: Is there a way to not see this Play-button and use the space for more text instead?
(It would be a good improvement for me)
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Sorry I'm losing track now. I would like to standardise my folders before I create too many more. Can you summarise the list of folder names that work with View Extras again. There has been so many increments along the way?
David
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I like Cryptographer's idea (from the other thread) of showing the Extras as Theater View background images while songs from that album are playing in Theater View mode.
Anyone else like that idea?
Brian.
Definitely. It get my vote
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Yeah, I have been known to accidently drop a whole "Movies to be sorted" directory into one specific movie directory and not notice for a while. That would have made everything in the "Movies to be sorted" directory into Extras!
- The first thing I noticed was that existing Cover Art sitting next to an audio file is included in the "Extras". That's okay, but I thought it might only show files not already shown as Cover Art. i.e. Just the extra files. That would make the functionality a bit messy though.
- It would be nice if MC had some indication that there were extra files available. Perhaps something like the little Play icon shown against each file change color, or had a fine colored line drawn around the edge. Something that doesn't take extra space preferably. But if existing Cover Art is shown as Extras, all files with Cover Art would have the indicator, making it meaningless.
- The next thing I noticed was that a MC22.0.22 Client wouldn't show Extras from a MC22.0.21 Server. Upgrading the MC Server didn't change this; there was no "View Extras" item on the right click menu of the MC Client.
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does anybody know if point 3 above has been solved (reading Extras from Client)?
For me Server works fine with Extras but I can not read from client with MC22.0.108 on both Server and Client.
I have also uninstalled previous versions of MC on Server and Client. Anything else I need to check?
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Hi
does anybody know if point 3 above has been solved (reading Extras from Client)?
For me Server works fine with Extras but I can not read from client with MC22.0.108 on both Server and Client.
I have also uninstalled previous versions of MC on Server and Client. Anything else I need to check?
Could anyone help?
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Answer is very logical - If you are running v.21 on the server, it does not have the functionality for viewing extras. The feature was added somewhere around 22.0.22. Since the server is controlling the traffic no matter what client you use eg. another install, gizmo etc, your version 21 will not know what to do when you ask to view extras. If you want to see the Extras, your server version needs to be above 22.0.22.
DS
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I just tried what would happen if I zipped a bunch of zip files (containing jpg images) into a large artwork.zip. It didn't go well, the right-click menu refuses to pop-up/and MC freezes for a couple of seconds. Not that I would have any use for that working, just one of my experiments trying to set the world on fire :P
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I am really enjoying this feature a lot. I have spent a lot of time trying to get it to work on a MC client. Before I spend more time could someone confirm that it actually works to view extras on a MC client? I am currently on version 23.0.104 on both server and client.
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I am really enjoying this feature a lot. I have spent a lot of time trying to get it to work on a MC client. Before I spend more time could someone confirm that it actually works to view extras on a MC client? I am currently on version 23.0.104 on both server and client.
Bump.
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I am really enjoying this feature a lot. I have spent a lot of time trying to get it to work on a MC client. Before I spend more time could someone confirm that it actually works to view extras on a MC client? I am currently on version 23.0.104 on both server and client.
I don't know if it works on a Media Center client, but it does work on JRemote (iOS version only) and MO 4Media (Android).
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Yes I have MO 4media working fine but question is if it works on an MC client... Surely someone must know?