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Title: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: bob on December 15, 2016, 12:14:07 pm
Here are a couple of beta builds for the QNAP. Until QNAP restores MC in the QNAP store you should consider these to be unsupported.

Latest MC 22 build for QNAP, install manually. READ NOTES BELOW FIRST IF YOU HAVE MC 21 from the QNAP store installed!
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v22/latest/MediaCenter22_22.0.111-5_x86_64.qpkg

THESE ARE SOME IMPORTANT POINTS TO BE AWARE OF:

1) You can't have both MC 21 and MC 22 installed at the same time on the QNAP.
2) If you have MC 21 installed and then install MC 22 you'll lose your library and license for MC 21.
3) You should backup your existing MC 21 library (if you have one) to the QNAP network share and copy it off on to a PC/MAC for safety before trying to install MC 22.


Check the general linux changelog for changes in the build.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: astromo on December 15, 2016, 11:13:05 pm
Here are a couple of beta builds for the QNAP. Until QNAP restores MC in the QNAP store you should consider these to be unsupported.

Latest MC 21 build for QNAP.  install manually.
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v21/latest/MediaCenter21_21.0.95_x86_64.qpkg
Latest MC 22 build for QNAP, install manually. READ NOTES BELOW FIRST IF YOU HAVE MC 21 installed!
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v21/latest/MediaCenter22_22.0.48_x86_64.qpkg

THESE ARE SOME IMPORTANT POINTS TO BE AWARE OF:

1) You can't have both MC 21 and MC 22 installed at the same time on the QNAP.
2) If you have MC 21 installed and then install MC 22 you'll lose your library and license for MC 21.
3) You should backup your existing MC 21 library (if you have one) to the QNAP network share and copy it off on to a PC/MAC for safety before trying to install MC 22.

Thanks .. appreciated.  ;)
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Afrosheen on December 16, 2016, 04:30:53 pm
Thank you Bob!!!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Afrosheen on December 21, 2016, 03:37:53 pm
Understable that there were would be some growing pains fresh off the release of MC22, but I wanted post crashlogs here as I have been experiencing crashes frequently.  They're pretty big logs too which is also noteworthy and as I've just posted on DropBox, they're probably still being uploaded.  Please let me know if there's anything that I can do on my end to troubleshoot and isolate the source of the crashes:

Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ugkitz0c23lt5o/Log.txt?dl=0
Previous Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aokxa24c98wbsx4/Previous%20Log.txt?dl=0

Thanks again for the release of MC22!! 
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on December 22, 2016, 10:55:14 am
I don't see anything special going on in your log other than importing and thumbnailing.

It's possible that's running the QNAP out of resources, you could try these steps:

In options do a search for "thumb"
In Tree and View, turn off "Create Thumbnails for video"

see if that helps

If not, with the same search also in Tree and View, set the thumbnail creation threading to LOW.

see if that helps

If not, disable auto-importing in Tools->Import
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22: TS-231?
Post by: ccchuck on December 30, 2016, 05:02:49 pm
I'm "out of the loop" so pardon if I'm asking a foolish question, will JRiver media center work on a ts-231?

and if no, how far up the chain to a unit that would?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22: TS-231?
Post by: bob on January 03, 2017, 10:39:15 am
I'm "out of the loop" so pardon if I'm asking a foolish question, will JRiver media center work on a ts-231?

and if no, how far up the chain to a unit that would?
It needs an intel processor with at least sse2. It was developed on a TS-251. The firmware on the QNAP is 4.2.2 which roughly corresponds to ubuntu 14.04.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Scobie on January 04, 2017, 10:47:03 pm
Hi guys, is there a beta bug tracking site for this version of JR?

In its absence what is the feeling of MC22 on the QNAP, pretty reliable? I'm happy with JR21 for the most part but do get the odd crash.

QNAP pulling support for MC caught me by surprise, any feeling on whether this is permanent or will they come back?

Thanks
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: JimH on January 05, 2017, 02:20:55 am
It caught us by surprise as well.  I can't recommend QNAP at this time.  I believe the current build of MC for QNAP does work, but we won't be putting much more time into it.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Louis on January 08, 2017, 05:05:43 pm
3) You should backup your existing MC 21 library (if you have one) to the QNAP network share and copy it off on to a PC/MAC for safety before trying to install MC 22.

FYI I get a "SourcePath Too Long" error when attempting to backup the MediaCenter21 directory to either the QNAP share or local PC. (The properties of this directory are: 1.40 GB; 6,375 files; 523 Folders).
By comparison, I tried backing up other directories in the qpkg Apps directory and did not encounter this error (eg PlexMediaServer 4.83 GB; 116,954 files; 73,381 folders).

I notice the folder nesting stretches forever on this path
\\bf1\qpkg\MediaCenter21\opt\MediaCenter21\root\.config\chrome-user-data-dir\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21\MediaCenter21........etc

I raise this observation in case it helps to point to a solution for the poor unstable performance of MC on QNAP, I'm not really concerned with backing up this directory at this time.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gpelts on January 11, 2017, 06:25:13 am
Thanks for providing this installation package. I was able to install and configure JRiver version 22.x on my Qnap TBS-453A server. I'm hoping you can advise on the last remaining glitch. I've converted my movies from the VIDEO_TS format to mp4. The resulting mp4 files play without any issues on a windows server as well as on the same Linux server using the default Qnap video player. However, when the same video exhibits choppy playback in JRiver - it pauses for a split-second every 1-2 seconds throughout the movie. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on January 12, 2017, 10:16:53 am
Thanks for providing this installation package. I was able to install and configure JRiver version 22.x on my Qnap TBS-453A server. I'm hoping you can advise on the last remaining glitch. I've converted my movies from the VIDEO_TS format to mp4. The resulting mp4 files play without any issues on a windows server as well as on the same Linux server using the default Qnap video player. However, when the same video exhibits choppy playback in JRiver - it pauses for a split-second every 1-2 seconds throughout the movie. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks
What are the following characteristics of the file?
Compression field
Filetype
Bitrate

You can find these when you view the file with details in MC (you may have to enable some of those fields in the view by right-clicking on the header bar with the file fields).
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gpelts on January 12, 2017, 08:42:36 pm
Filetype: M4V (video: h264 audio: aac)
Compression: I can't seem to find this information. The video was converted by MyMovies from a BluRay rip using the standard settings (which I can't find in MyMovies :) )
Bitrate: varies from 3k-6kbps

Note: The same video file plays without any issues on a Windows 10 htpc running JRiver Media Center 22

Thanks in advance, Greg
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on January 13, 2017, 01:10:53 pm
Filetype: M4V (video: h264 audio: aac)
Compression: I can't seem to find this information. The video was converted by MyMovies from a BluRay rip using the standard settings (which I can't find in MyMovies :) )
Bitrate: varies from 3k-6kbps

Note: The same video file plays without any issues on a Windows 10 htpc running JRiver Media Center 22

Thanks in advance, Greg
In the file display you click on the header and enable the display of the compression field.
I'll attach a screenshot shortly.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gpelts on January 15, 2017, 08:01:56 pm
Let me know when you can attach a screenshot since I can't seem to find any way to show the Compression. Adding the [Compression] tag to the Player display doesn't show anything.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on January 16, 2017, 09:34:24 am
Here you go...
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gpelts on January 17, 2017, 08:23:24 pm
I seem to have already provided compression without knowing it.
Compression: video: h264 audio: aac
Bitrate: 5716 (varies from movie to movie, though all have the same issue)
Filetype: m4v

Thanks in advance,
Greg
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on January 17, 2017, 10:55:39 pm
Won't be able to look at this more until I return from vacation in a couple of weeks
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Scobie on January 25, 2017, 06:56:43 pm
It caught us by surprise as well.  I can't recommend QNAP at this time.  I believe the current build of MC for QNAP does work, but we won't be putting much more time into it.

That's a huge shame. I really like JRiver but have invested some money in QNAP, so might be time to explore the Plex option.

Thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on January 26, 2017, 01:57:57 pm
It caught us by surprise as well.  I can't recommend QNAP at this time.  I believe the current build of MC for QNAP does work, but we won't be putting much more time into it.

I hope you continue to provide a working version. What I heard from a few who supported JRiver in the one or other way is, that they have too much work with JRiver support, that should be given by JRiver instead.
Hope this great product is not slowly going down due to liabilities and connected support demand.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Scobie on January 29, 2017, 09:20:49 pm
Does anyone have a feel for how memory intensive MC21/22beta is on a QNAP?

I've run both on a TS-453mini with 2Gb (it came with this onboard) and regularly see the app freezing or unloading.

I'm not running any other apps so was wondering if it was sufficiently spec'd for JRiver?

Thanks
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on January 30, 2017, 02:20:07 am
I just can tell it's no serious load for my TS 253pro. I only have very rare crashes and only when autoimport is activated.

It runs very stable in the meantime, that's why it's awful to hear it might not be supported anymore and I have to keep my PC switched on again in future.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: astromo on January 30, 2017, 05:26:19 am
I just can tell it's no serious load for my TS 253pro. I only have very rare crashes and only when autoimport is activated.

It runs very stable in the meantime, that's why it's awful to hear it might not be supported anymore and I have to keep my PC switched on again in future.

It shouldn't be an issue for the qnap units that can run a VM. As long as you've got enough memory on board, set up a Linux VM - they run with a low overhead anyway - and you can then install MC. That method should deal with current and future MC versions.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on February 03, 2017, 07:02:03 pm
It shouldn't be an issue for the qnap units that can run a VM. As long as you've got enough memory on board, set up a Linux VM - they run with a low overhead anyway - and you can then install MC. That method should deal with current and future MC versions.

Do you recommend to install another Linux version of MC on a QNAP on top of a virtual machine (which I don't know how to set up on the QNAP)...or is there still any hope you continue to bugfix the current QNAP versions of MC in future?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: astromo on February 05, 2017, 04:14:58 am
It's not a recommendation.

I'm simply pointing out that there are workable alternatives to consider going forward. I appreciate that the prospect of dealing with another layer of complexity is undesirable but I also think it's useful to know that for people who've invested in QNAP hardware, they aren't necessarily dealing with a dead end.

Not being part of the JRiver dev team, I can't speak for the view of ongoing bug-fixes / support of the QNAP package. Personally, I'd like to see this continue. However, if they take a business view of limiting the menu, then at least I know what I'd do next. Just sharing my thoughts and trying to be constructive.. cheers ..  :D
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on February 05, 2017, 06:17:02 am
Thanks much, I appreaciate that! Although I'd have a couple of more questions in case I'd have to go there...
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gpelts on February 05, 2017, 04:56:03 pm
Bob,
In case you're back from vacation, both M4V and MKV playback exhibit the same behavior - pauses for a split-second every 1-2 seconds
Filetype: M4V
Compression: (video: h264 audio: aac)
Bitrate: 5716 (varies from movie to movie, though all have the same issue)
or
Filetype: MKV
Compression: (video: h264 audio: TrueHD)
Bitrate: 32690 (varies from movie to movie, though all have the same issue)

Note: The same video files play without any issues on: a Windows 10 htpc running JRiver Media Center 22 OR on the same QNAP box under VideoStation. Seems to be a player issue ... Help???
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Scobie on February 07, 2017, 05:04:06 pm
Quote
As long as you've got enough memory on board, set up a Linux VM - they run with a low overhead anyway - and you can then install MC. That method should deal with current and future MC versions.

That's a great suggestion actually thanks Astromo. Although how hard is it - and apologies if this is outlined already - to compile a MC linux build into a QNAP as Bob has done?

Also re my earlier post about memory usage, the QNAP was sluggish and the disks were chattering like mad this morning and I noticed that the process mediacenter22 was grabbing over 1.5Gb of memory,  sounds a bit too much....?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on February 14, 2017, 10:34:38 am
That's a great suggestion actually thanks Astromo. Although how hard is it - and apologies if this is outlined already - to compile a MC linux build into a QNAP as Bob has done?

Also re my earlier post about memory usage, the QNAP was sluggish and the disks were chattering like mad this morning and I noticed that the process mediacenter22 was grabbing over 1.5Gb of memory,  sounds a bit too much....?
Could be thumbnailing. Try turning the threading priority for that down to low (search in options).
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Scobie on February 14, 2017, 04:53:34 pm
Quote
Could be thumbnailing. Try turning the threading priority for that down to low (search in options).

Will give that a try tonight thanks Bob. What does that process actually do, regenerate icons?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on February 14, 2017, 05:22:55 pm
Will give that a try tonight thanks Bob. What does that process actually do, regenerate icons?
Yes
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on February 19, 2017, 02:55:37 pm
It shouldn't be an issue for the qnap units that can run a VM. As long as you've got enough memory on board, set up a Linux VM - they run with a low overhead anyway - and you can then install MC. That method should deal with current and future MC versions.

What amount of add. memory is required compared with a TS 253 pro 2GB if there are no parallel tasks to music playing (Hires)? Or is it sufficient?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: astromo on February 20, 2017, 03:53:29 pm
What amount of add. memory is required compared with a TS 253 pro 2GB if there are no parallel tasks to music playing (Hires)? Or is it sufficient?
You're diverging from the intent of the original thread.

Suggest you ask this one separately or check Qnap documentation/web forum.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: haru on March 14, 2017, 02:53:06 am
Never mind!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 08, 2017, 06:52:43 pm
There's a Problem with JRemote which only appears with JRiver for QNAP as source, not with JRiver for Windows:

If there's a "&" in the folder path Name, assets are not shown and if there's a letter with accent (like with french or spanish letters etc.) in the file tag, music files are not shown.

Any chance this get's fixed? I'm referring to the latest MC22 for QNAP downloaded from above.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 10, 2017, 11:46:10 am
There's a Problem with JRemote which only appears with JRiver for QNAP as source, not with JRiver for Windows:

If there's a "&" in the folder path Name, assets are not shown and if there's a letter with accent (like with french or spanish letters etc.) in the file tag, music files are not shown.

Any chance this get's fixed? I'm referring to the latest MC22 for QNAP downloaded from above.
Do you know if that's an issue in the current generic linux build of MC22?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 11:54:05 am
 No, sorry I can't tell
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 10, 2017, 03:37:31 pm
There's a Problem with JRemote which only appears with JRiver for QNAP as source, not with JRiver for Windows:

If there's a "&" in the folder path Name, assets are not shown and if there's a letter with accent (like with french or spanish letters etc.) in the file tag, music files are not shown.

Any chance this get's fixed? I'm referring to the latest MC22 for QNAP downloaded from above.
I'm testing this and I can't see any difference between the windows and linux versions.
What are the "assets" in JRemote? I'm just assuming that is the metadata information shown in the playing now window.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 03:52:01 pm
No, assets are the attachments hidden behind two tabs right of the metadata within the info page on play now screen.

Also hidden tracks of tags containing accents are only hidden when I use the Qnap version as source, not within the library of my Windows version.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 10, 2017, 03:54:33 pm
No, assets are the attachments hidden behind two tabs right of the metadata within the info page on play now screen.

Also hidden tracks of tags containing accents are only hidden when I use the Qnap version as source, not within the library of my Windows version.
I've not used this before. Can you explain how to produce and show an asset?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 04:33:49 pm
Creating them just means storing a PDF or jpg in the music folder path or below.

Recalling them is shown in my screenshot
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 10, 2017, 05:21:56 pm
Ok, I can reproduce it.
Will take a look...
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 05:35:31 pm
Thanks! Also the problem with the accents?

I posted a screenshot also for this
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 10, 2017, 05:59:46 pm
Found the & issue.
It's in JRemote.
Don't have a clue on accents yet.
You say it works in Windows and not Linux MC?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 06:24:13 pm
Correct, works in Windows and not in Qnap MC (Linux MC I don't know)
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 06:29:32 pm
 There's  one more difference, I don't know how to solve:

 In the windows version I can search for any words in any tag within any view and get the result found.

In the Qnap version I can only search for words in the field the view is sorted to, like in the artist view I can only search for artists while in the windows version I can also search for a label within the artist view.

 In both versions I selected the setting to index all fields for searching.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 10, 2017, 06:45:31 pm
Ah wait, on the last one I'm not sure, Inthink it was a difference between searching in windows or in JRemote, not in windows or Qnap NAS

I'm online again in 8 hours
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Afrosheen on April 13, 2017, 04:49:18 pm
Is there a command that I can enter into terminal when I have connected to my NAS via ssh to run Media Center when it's not running?  Currently when MC is not running, I open up an iOS app to run the command to connect via ssh, then start the VNC server, and then switch over to another app, VNC Viewer, to open up HD Station and then drag the cursor to open up MC and then switch over to the terminal app to close the VNC server and then close the connection.  Then I'll be able to switch over to JRemote to connect.

I'm wondering if I can just have the middle step removed, where I have open up VNC viewer and then start the MC app?  I tried running the following commands but I got the error that the command is not found. 

Code: [Select]
[/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/MediaCenter22] # MediaCenter22.sh start                                       
-sh: MediaCenter22.sh: command not found

I saw the pinned thread but I couldn't find any commands that would apply for the QNAP version.

Thanks for the consideration!

Edit:
I found the command to stop Media Center, but couldn't use it to start it back up:

This works:
Code: [Select]
/etc/init.d/MediaCenter22.sh stop
This doesn't work:
Code: [Select]
/etc/init.d/MediaCenter22.sh start
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: gulp on April 15, 2017, 07:21:59 pm
Found the & issue.
It's in JRemote.
Don't have a clue on accents yet.
You say it works in Windows and not Linux MC?

I got an update on JRemote, thanks much, will test it asap.

Hope you'll get the clue to the accent problem, too!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Montxx on April 22, 2017, 12:00:13 pm
Hi Bob,

Yesterday the trial period expired. I tried to purchase the app, but the page said it's no longer possible.
Is there a solution to solve this?

Kind regards,
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 24, 2017, 11:12:02 am
Is there a command that I can enter into terminal when I have connected to my NAS via ssh to run Media Center when it's not running?  Currently when MC is not running, I open up an iOS app to run the command to connect via ssh, then start the VNC server, and then switch over to another app, VNC Viewer, to open up HD Station and then drag the cursor to open up MC and then switch over to the terminal app to close the VNC server and then close the connection.  Then I'll be able to switch over to JRemote to connect.

I'm wondering if I can just have the middle step removed, where I have open up VNC viewer and then start the MC app?  I tried running the following commands but I got the error that the command is not found. 

Code: [Select]
[/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/MediaCenter22] # MediaCenter22.sh start                                       
-sh: MediaCenter22.sh: command not found

I saw the pinned thread but I couldn't find any commands that would apply for the QNAP version.

Thanks for the consideration!

Edit:
I found the command to stop Media Center, but couldn't use it to start it back up:

This works:
Code: [Select]
/etc/init.d/MediaCenter22.sh stop
This doesn't work:
Code: [Select]
/etc/init.d/MediaCenter22.sh start

Took me a bit to figure this one.
HD Station runs in a chrooted environment. You need to execute MC within that environment. Also you must be logged in on the console otherwise X isn't running.

chroot /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/HD_Station su - -c "export DISPLAY=:0 ; nohup mediacenter22&"

Then to terminate MC gracefully from the command line:
killall -HUP mediacenter22


Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 24, 2017, 11:12:43 am
I'll try to get up a build that uses the current license asap.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Montxx on April 24, 2017, 12:37:24 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 24, 2017, 01:17:07 pm
Updated the MC22  build in the top link to work with the new license.

For users upgrading with an existing library only, I saw an issue with MC rebuilding some thumbnails when the new build was installed on my QNAP test machine. This will slow down your system some while they are being built. Before installing this build, make sure thumbnailing threading is set to minimum in the MC Options.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: KBoz on April 24, 2017, 09:20:41 pm
I've loaded JRiver MC22 to my QNAP TS-451 from the download site on JRiver.  I've imported files into the library, created a couple playlists and played a song without the music yet.  I have an MC22 Master License with 17 remaining installs but when I click on Help and Install License and enter my registration key into the box I can't submit it.  Is there another way to do this?

I'm hoping to use JRiver as a DLNA server for high res files (24/96 or 24/192) with my Oppo BD-105.  Hopefully once the license is added I can see the server menu item as well.  Hopefully I won't run into the problems with high res files that I have with my Samsung 4K blu-ray player streamed from a Plex server on the QNAP.  It works for a while and then sounds like a 33RPM LP running at 45RPM.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 25, 2017, 10:07:30 am
I've loaded JRiver MC22 to my QNAP TS-451 from the download site on JRiver.  I've imported files into the library, created a couple playlists and played a song without the music yet.  I have an MC22 Master License with 17 remaining installs but when I click on Help and Install License and enter my registration key into the box I can't submit it.  Is there another way to do this?

I'm hoping to use JRiver as a DLNA server for high res files (24/96 or 24/192) with my Oppo BD-105.  Hopefully once the license is added I can see the server menu item as well.  Hopefully I won't run into the problems with high res files that I have with my Samsung 4K blu-ray player streamed from a Plex server on the QNAP.  It works for a while and then sounds like a 33RPM LP running at 45RPM.
The OK button is in the lower right corner of the screen.
QNAP forces all windows to full screen.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Montxx on April 25, 2017, 02:37:34 pm
Bob,

Many thanks. It Worked!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Afrosheen on April 26, 2017, 02:48:41 pm
Took me a bit to figure this one.
HD Station runs in a chrooted environment. You need to execute MC within that environment. Also you must be logged in on the console otherwise X isn't running.

chroot /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/HD_Station su - -c "export DISPLAY=:0 ; nohup mediacenter22&"

Then to terminate MC gracefully from the command line:
killall -HUP mediacenter22

You are awesome Bob!!!  You have just made this app ten times better!  Thank you!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Afrosheen on April 28, 2017, 03:30:52 pm
I'm wondering if a script could be written where I could have it run on my Mac Mini via cron or launchd to first check to see if MC is running on my QNAP NAS and if it times out, to run the command that Bob discovered?

Would this be possible?
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on April 28, 2017, 04:57:22 pm
I'm wondering if a script could be written where I could have it run on my Mac Mini via cron or launchd to first check to see if MC is running on my QNAP NAS and if it times out, to run the command that Bob discovered?

Would this be possible?
I think it'd be easier to run one via the cron function on the QNAP itself but I think you should be able to do it either way.
The key is to check to see if it's already running. On standard linux distros one can use the command pidof to get the process Id of mediacenter22. If it's not running the command above could be used to start it. The only other thing is there needs to be a way to find out if the X server is running on the QNAP (the user is logged in).

It gets a bit more complex if you don't want MC running on the QNAP all of the time but it's still doable. One way would be to create a simple 0 byte file with the touch command on the QNAP to indicate whether the cron script should be starting up the mediacenter (or restarting it in case it closes) or shutting it down.

You could then use you mac to just create or delete that file and the cron script on the QNAP would do the rest. You might be able to get it to run without a password from a command line script on the Mac by using a authenticated login using a ssh key instead of the usual admin login procedure.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Rshakesp on May 08, 2017, 11:34:43 am
The OK button is in the lower right corner of the screen.
QNAP forces all windows to full screen.

I have a very recent licence (MC23) bought on the 24th April.

I have updated to the latest MC22 qnap build above - but when I try and install the licence it tells me 'we could not find that licence' - I have made several attempts :( any ideas.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on May 08, 2017, 04:38:24 pm
I have a very recent licence (MC23) bought on the 24th April.

I have updated to the latest MC22 qnap build above - but when I try and install the licence it tells me 'we could not find that licence' - I have made several attempts :( any ideas.
Send me your license (in a PM, Personal Message) and I'll test it.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: Rshakesp on May 11, 2017, 03:42:45 am
Send me your license (in a PM, Personal Message) and I'll test it.

Thanks Bob - there should be a message in your inbox.

Regards

Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: someoneelse on June 05, 2017, 09:58:39 pm
Sorry for novice question, but how do I  go about installing (MC22) "manually" on my Qnap?

I've got a Qnap TS-269L running version 4.3.3 20170403

I have a MC23 Master Licence....will that work with MC22 on the QNap? Reading the post from Rshakesp above, it should work, assuming hardware requirements are OK?

thanks for your help
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on June 06, 2017, 09:50:19 am
Sorry for novice question, but how do I  go about installing (MC22) "manually" on my Qnap?

I've got a Qnap TS-269L running version 4.3.3 20170403

I have a MC23 Master Licence....will that work with MC22 on the QNap? Reading the post from Rshakesp above, it should work, assuming hardware requirements are OK?

thanks for your help
Yes, the current build of MC22 will work with an MC23 license.
You install it via from a browser connected to the QNAP, logged in and running the HDStation app. You can install the package manually from there by browsing to the download of it on your computer.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: someoneelse on June 11, 2017, 06:20:08 pm
tried to install it manually (thanks for the help) but it seems it needs version 3.0 of HD Station....

As far as I can tell from the App Store my Qnap (TS-269L) only supports 2.1.2

Oh well, looks like I'll have to keep running MC from my Windows Laptop.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta builds MC 21 and 22
Post by: bob on June 12, 2017, 09:20:30 am
tried to install it manually (thanks for the help) but it seems it needs version 3.0 of HD Station....

As far as I can tell from the App Store my Qnap (TS-269L) only supports 2.1.2

Oh well, looks like I'll have to keep running MC from my Windows Laptop.
You are correct, it does require version 3.0 of HDStation.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: PAPETOURNE on June 26, 2017, 12:08:43 pm
Here are a couple of beta builds for the QNAP. Until QNAP restores MC in the QNAP store you should consider these to be unsupported.

Latest MC 22 build for QNAP, install manually. READ NOTES BELOW FIRST IF YOU HAVE MC 21 from the QNAP store installed!
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v22/latest/MediaCenter22_22.0.111_x86_64.qpkg

THESE ARE SOME IMPORTANT POINTS TO BE AWARE OF:

1) You can't have both MC 21 and MC 22 installed at the same time on the QNAP.
2) If you have MC 21 installed and then install MC 22 you'll lose your library and license for MC 21.
3) You should backup your existing MC 21 library (if you have one) to the QNAP network share and copy it off on to a PC/MAC for safety before trying to install MC 22.


Check the general linux changelog for changes in the build.
hello
what about MC23 i bought ? I have MC22 installed on my QNAP
Thanks
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Junghwan on July 01, 2017, 08:50:56 am
Latest MC 22 build for QNAP, install manually. READ NOTES BELOW FIRST IF YOU HAVE MC 21 from the QNAP store installed!
http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v22/latest/MediaCenter22_22.0.111_x86_64.qpkg
 

I can't download the file. The link only display Access denied message. Please check.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: astromo on July 01, 2017, 06:07:16 pm
I can't download the file. The link only display Access denied message. Please check.

Agreed. Refer attached pic for the message.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Desja55 on July 02, 2017, 11:57:01 am
I can't access the qpkg file. Access denied.(http://)
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: dotcon on July 04, 2017, 03:43:55 am
the download link is not working. it is pointing to an xml page
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: bob on July 04, 2017, 02:29:21 pm
Had to pull it because of issues.
Will make a new one when I'm back from vacation around the 12th.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Junghwan on July 05, 2017, 12:56:04 am
Thank you. I can wait.
Enjoy your vacation.

Had to pull it because of issues.
Will make a new one when I'm back from vacation around the 12th.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: diegodgo on July 13, 2017, 11:35:31 am
Hello.
  I'm waiting, too. From what I saw wheel on the Qnap TS-212P proceed?
Thank you
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: bob on July 13, 2017, 01:50:31 pm
The link in the first post has been updated to the latest available build:
22.0.111-5

Give it a try!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Desja55 on July 26, 2017, 07:45:55 pm
Hello,
I need your help. I had 22.0.97 installed on my QNAP TS-253A using the HybridDesk Station. It was very stable and would stay up for weeks without problem.
Last week, I installed 22.0.111-5 without changing any options. The application was closing by itself every 10 or 15 minutes.
I decided to completely uninstall JRiver and reinstall the latest version.
Now, JRiver ask me to register using my licence key. I tried both MC23 or MC 22 Master Key and it doesn't work.

Maybe, I am not using the right process. I am familiar with the Windows environment but not very knowledgeable with the Linux environment.
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: bob on July 27, 2017, 09:26:09 am
Hello,
I need your help. I had 22.0.97 installed on my QNAP TS-253A using the HybridDesk Station. It was very stable and would stay up for weeks without problem.
Last week, I installed 22.0.111-5 without changing any options. The application was closing by itself every 10 or 15 minutes.
I decided to completely uninstall JRiver and reinstall the latest version.
Now, JRiver ask me to register using my licence key. I tried both MC23 or MC 22 Master Key and it doesn't work.

Maybe, I am not using the right process. I am familiar with the Windows environment but not very knowledgeable with the Linux environment.
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
A couple of thoughts,
The QNAP needs to get to the internet to reach our license servers. Is it able to do this?
The license often contains letters and numbers that can be confused like 0 and O and 1 and l. Can you double check to make sure you are entering it properly?

Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Scobie on July 28, 2017, 12:13:46 am
Quick thanks to Bob, installed the new package on my ts-453 mini no trouble at all.

Cheers.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Desja55 on July 31, 2017, 02:16:07 pm
A couple of thoughts,
The QNAP needs to get to the internet to reach our license servers. Is it able to do this?
The license often contains letters and numbers that can be confused like 0 and O and 1 and l. Can you double check to make sure you are entering it properly?


Hello Bob, I double checked the spelling of my MC23 licence number. I also made sure I am connected to the internet. The licence number was not accepted.
Then I uninstalled MC 22.0.111-5 and reinstalled MC 22.0.97.
With the 97 release my MC23 licence is working fine but not with the 111-5 release.
Any suggestion ?
Thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: synkrotro on February 28, 2018, 04:45:42 pm
I had a crash on my NAS Qnap. I have to reinstall.
Can I find a Mediacenter21_21.0.9*.qpkg somewhere, please?

The link at the beginning of this subject (http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v21/latest/MediaCenter21_21.0.95_x86_64.qpkg) does not seem to work anymore.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: synkrotro on March 01, 2018, 07:26:07 am
I had a crash on my NAS Qnap. I have to reinstall.
Can I find a Mediacenter21_21.0.9*.qpkg somewhere, please?

The link at the beginning of this subject (http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v21/latest/MediaCenter21_21.0.95_x86_64.qpkg) does not seem to work anymore.


Finally I installed MC22 and an older version of HD Station, on the HS251, and it worked, thanks to your advices, many thanks!
Everything seems to be fine again.

Just a problem with the license.
I bought last night an upgrade to MC23 (and received a 24?).
When I tried to enter the license number I got yesterday (MC23-24), a message said: "Your license file is for a different product".

How can I do, please?


Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: time3 on March 06, 2018, 09:32:50 am
Hello,

I have QNAP TS-119 running on Marvell 6281 1,2 Ghz with 512 Mb RAM. Is it possible to run JRiver of any version on it?

Many thanks!
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: Awesome Donkey on March 06, 2018, 09:47:29 am
Probably not, QNAP isn't supported anymore (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,114270.msg790132.html#msg790132). Docker might be an option though.
Title: Re: QNAP Beta build MC 22
Post by: time3 on March 06, 2018, 10:43:25 am
I mean, is it possible with difficulties, alterations, but still - possible? What should be done?