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Title: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: garyi on March 31, 2018, 11:24:19 am
Hi I have installed debian on an dell pc.

I installed the cifs utilities. I added a network share which shows up fine under /mnt

On the desktop I can goto the share

When I add it to auto import as soon as I click ok, media center crashes

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: Awesome Donkey on March 31, 2018, 11:26:41 am
Bad file(s), maybe? Enabling logging might give you a clue.
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: mattkhan on March 31, 2018, 11:31:42 am
Try running MC from the command line, you may get some log output when it crashes
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: mwillems on March 31, 2018, 01:55:41 pm
Also be sure to check the permissions on the share; it shouldn't generally crash MC, but I've seen flaky behavior from MC when it encounters directories that it can't traverse because it lacks the execute permission on the directories.
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: garyi on March 31, 2018, 02:32:37 pm
Hi there, please note I am the most dangerous computer user, someone with half an idea.

There are no access permissions for my nas its guest access. I found some instructions on line for putting the share somewhere or other so it loads when I start up. The format of the line I entered was server/share user: password: 00

But there is no password so I just set it server/share

On restart the debian did not load to gui as it was trying to access the share asking for a pw I just hit enter and the gui loaded. from here i could access it fine. However its only visable in media center under /mnt

Anyhow perhaps its not quite right, is there something I should add to that start up file under user and pw?

Sorry for my dim witted response.
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: Zhillsguy on March 31, 2018, 10:15:44 pm
Half an idea is a good start, maybe we can help fill in a little of the gap.

In my opinion, if you are not committed to the Debian install, you may consider installing a more user friendly Linux environment based on Debian, such as Linux Mint (my favorite), or one of the Ubuntu variants (Ubuntu, Lubuntu, MATE, etc.). Forum support for all of these distros is great, and their forums are generally well laid out with folks willing to help. Father Debian can be quite daunting. When I first started using MC for linux I tried many of the Debian variants, and mounting my network share was done the same way in all.

When you install one of the other distros more than likely you will have a choice to install the new distro along side Debian, making a choice between them at boot, so you won't really lose anything.

All that being said, you may need to post more details to get help with the issue, such as what files you modified to enable the share, and what text strings you are using in those files.
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: garyi on April 01, 2018, 04:50:17 am
I tried Mint actually before debian. I only installed debian because the JRiver said its main support was for debian. I dont have a terrific amount of experience with the gazillion of linux forks. I have OpenMediaVault as my nas and thats about it.

Mint was the same, in that I am astounded CIFS etc is not just part of the install, it makes it such a terrible experience for newbies, its how I always feel the times I revisit linux over all these years, 'closed doors, you're not invited unless you can programme, go away.'

You would have thought some fork somewhere would be aligning itself as closely with the windows/mac experience out of the box. i.e. there on the desktop is your network shares just like that.

Well anyway I am rambling. I'll have a poke around to find the webpages I visited and try to show you whats what. A heads up on how to get a log file from Media Center would be cool though..
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: astropuppy on April 01, 2018, 07:32:23 am
Couple thoughts:

1) Are there spaces in your mount point name?
2) Have you considered using NFS instead of CIFS?
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: BryanC on April 02, 2018, 01:43:50 am
I tried Mint actually before debian. I only installed debian because the JRiver said its main support was for debian. I dont have a terrific amount of experience with the gazillion of linux forks. I have OpenMediaVault as my nas and thats about it.

Mint was the same, in that I am astounded CIFS etc is not just part of the install, it makes it such a terrible experience for newbies, its how I always feel the times I revisit linux over all these years, 'closed doors, you're not invited unless you can programme, go away.'

You would have thought some fork somewhere would be aligning itself as closely with the windows/mac experience out of the box. i.e. there on the desktop is your network shares just like that.

Well anyway I am rambling. I'll have a poke around to find the webpages I visited and try to show you whats what. A heads up on how to get a log file from Media Center would be cool though..

Major reason is that CIFS is deprecated.
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: Kott on April 02, 2018, 03:07:35 am
Major reason is that CIFS is deprecated.

CIFS is common name for all SMB-filesystems in Linux, even for SMB 3.x
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: mattkhan on April 02, 2018, 03:10:56 am
Well anyway I am rambling. I'll have a poke around to find the webpages I visited and try to show you whats what. A heads up on how to get a log file from Media Center would be cool though..
as I posted earlier

Try running MC from the command line, you may get some log output when it crashes

the actual log file is enabled via Help > Logging > Enable Logging and then you'll find it in ~/.jriver/Media Center 23/Log.txt
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: garyi on April 02, 2018, 03:44:08 am
I'll level with you guys, after hours of heartache in the world of linux, I installed Volumio.

It would be super cool if one day JRiver could be the same, i.e. I stick it on a usb, bang it in a PC an install it, whole package, no messing.

In 2018 linux should be more user friendly. (not Jrivers fault obviously)
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: JimH on April 02, 2018, 06:16:03 am
The IdPi is Linux and MC on a microSD card.

https://jriver.com/Id/
Title: Re: Adding network mount - immediate crash
Post by: garyi on April 03, 2018, 04:05:41 pm
Thanks Jim, I am not using a PI at this stage though.