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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 26 for Windows => Topic started by: JimH on June 27, 2018, 09:05:35 am
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JRiver has a lossless streaming service called Radio JRiver.
The emphasis is on high quality audio. It has two major components:
Cloudplay
Cloudplay (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119839.0.html) lets you build a playlist of lossless files (FLAC, APE, ALAC, etc.) and (right click) Upload to Cloud (JRiver's server at Amazon). You will receive an e-mail with links.
Radio JRiver
Under Streaming and on the Cloudplay page, you'll find Radio JRiver buttons.
Radio JRiver Stations
Classical
Jazz
Eclectic
Rock
Try Me (a wide assortment)
Clicking on any one of these downloads an MPL Playlist, which JRiver can play. There is a new aspect to this that we call Super MPL or Super Playlists. A Super Playlist contains more than one MPL, and it can be set to shuffle the playlists within it, but not the files in each playlist.
Still Growing
We expect to add more content, more stations, and to improve the quality of programming in each one.
At this time, most of the programming is done by Ted Ringer. He worked at JRiver many years ago, and he has a massive collection of music and a passion for building playlists. I hope you'll welcome him to the forum.
We are licensing the rights for these files. We appreciate any support you can give. There is a Listener Supported link at the bottom of the Radio JRiver page to a donation page. You can donate at any level.
Panel
You'll also find Radio JRiver stations under Panel. They can be played in Panel or to other JRiver zones.
Panel settings allow you to control the conversion of the stream, so you can use less bandwidth or get full quality. Click on the settings icon to find these options.
Panel Instructions (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,116687.0.html)
More
All files that are uploaded have been processed by JRiver's Audio Analysis. This means that you can use JRiver's Volume Leveling to play tracks at a more even volume. This is set in MC > Player > DSP Studio > Volume Leveling.
Takedown Notice (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,124504.0.html) for unauthorized content.
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Very cool. Checking it out now.
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I'm loving listening to some of these playlists. Might cost me a fortune in CD purchases as a result though!
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Streaming jriver radio to a renderer fails on my machine bob explained this as being the result of the jazz stream being .ape files
So we tested that here and it works playing to an Id (because it can play anything).
For other renderers, you will need to have something that supports whatever lossless file types the radio is sending.
Most of the streams now are .ape. Probably only MC and Volumio would be able to play those.
I tried jriver radio's classical section and these behaved exactly like the ape files in the jazz section ........but these are flac files, so they should have played correctly. Also I can stream flac files to my tv as an mp3 stream via an associated dlna server from radio paradise, but this doesn't happen with the jriver radio stream. Doesn't matter much to me but some users might be put off.
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Split Streaming vs. Local Files
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24.0.40, just posted, fixes the problem with cover art. It should be displayed in MC and in Panel now.
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The concept is great, but I still cannot get it to work. After clicking on any of the stations, a box shows up asking if I want to play the files and a few other check boxes. When I request the files play, nothing happens after the box goes away.
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What version of MC do you have? MC 24 recent is required.
Are you opening it from MC? Just using a browser won't work.
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I cant get this to work either. It seems to time out.
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Needed to update to 24.0.40 to work.
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I have 24 and attempt to open directly from the streaming menu. It doesn't work for me.
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24.0.40 is not available to me yet but the music channels are present.
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I just now found the playlist manually by choosing it after the download by clicking on player. Thought this would be automatic but not so.
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Ok. I can get playlists but they are not playing.
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24.0.40 is here:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,116531.0.html
Make sure you're using MC to find Radio JRiver, not just doing it from a browser.
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Clicking onstreaming and then choose Radio J River. I am curious if this is related to streaming outside my home network which I used to be able to do with JRemote but can't for an unknown reason anymore.
Port 52199 will not open even if permissions are enabled in the router with outside IP. I am guessing it is related. Using Norton Security Suite but still can't connect when I turn it off. Anyone?
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Thanks for link to 24.0.40. That did it. It's now playing great! :)
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I tried the "Rock" station and platform works well. Fidelity and sound stage are great (16/44.1 - ape) and plays well at only 8 Mbps down. Navigation among tracks and response also favorable. Very nice indeed.
Only 5 albums shuffled in first 90+ tracks in queue, but I am confident this will improve!!!
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To all those who've sent a little money our way this week ... Thank You! We appreciate your encouragement.
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Lossless streaming rate seems low for FLAC. Some down in the 300-400 kbps range. Were these originally lossless files?
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Lossless streaming rate seems low for FLAC. Some down in the 300-400 kbps range. Were these originally lossless files?
Yes, files uploaded are lossless. Which station are you listening to? Classical by chance? Depending on the composition (e.g. solo piano performances), how much compression is used and how well it's compressed it's possible to get bitrates that low in lossless files. You shouldn't use bitrates as an indicator for audio quality.
EDIT: This thread may help explain it, pay attention to RD James' posts especially... https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=114123.0
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Lossless streaming rate seems low for FLAC. Some down in the 300-400 kbps range. Were these originally lossless files?
flac files can be compressed to smaller sizes without any loss ... it depends on the settings in your flac encoder.
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Jim - Could you explain more about the Upload to Cloud process?
That sounds like I can take some of my library, put it in a playlist, upload it to the cloud, then playback somehow on a mobile device (Panel). Am I interpreting that correctly? That seems really cool. I often stream from my home server, but would love to turn it off or have another method when my connection is off to get to at least some of my music.
Is that the Upload to Doctor Who option? I've not used Doctor Who much before, but wasn't clear on how this part works. Thanks!
EDIT: I see in your other post about help programming Radio JRiver, that I should be able to right click a playlist and pick Upload to Cloud. I don't see that option when I right click on a playlist though (using 24.0.40).
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Make sure you have a Dr. Who account and are logged into it.
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Just a thought JimH, but wouldn't it make sense for people to upload albums of music and the radio JRiver site to use something like a random smartlist to select 50 files to any user who logs into the station, rather then using playlists uploaded by users?
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Make sure you have a Dr. Who account and are logged into it.
I did that and to make sure, just went back to re-login. I'm not seeing the option to Upload to Cloud. It should be a right-click option on the playlist?
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Just a thought JimH, but wouldn't it make sense for people to upload albums of music and the radio JRiver site to use something like a random smartlist to select 50 files to any user who logs into the station, rather then using playlists uploaded by users?
We could do that, even use Play Doctor for selecting, but right now, we're using curated playlists.
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Jim - Could you explain more about the Upload to Cloud process?
That sounds like I can take some of my library, put it in a playlist, upload it to the cloud, then playback somehow on a mobile device (Panel). Am I interpreting that correctly? That seems really cool. I often stream from my home server, but would love to turn it off or have another method when my connection is off to get to at least some of my music.
Close. Right now, we're focused on building Radio JRiver stations. Later, we may allow you to stream your own playlists. Doctor Who has something like that now.
We're also working on getting Panel to support Radio JRiver and Radio Paradise. Right now, I'm using Panel on a PixelBook (ChromeOS) notebook to connect to a Windows notebook running MC. I use Panel to connect to the Windows machine, choose a Radio JRiver station, and play it to an IdPi. It's working well.
This gives us access and control via Panel on any device that runs a modern browser.
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Close. Right now, we're focused on building Radio JRiver stations. Later, we may allow you to stream your own playlists. Doctor Who has something like that now.
We're also working on getting Panel to support Radio JRiver and Radio Paradise. Right now, I'm using Panel on a PixelBook (ChromeOS) notebook to connect to a Windows notebook running MC. I use Panel to connect to the Windows machine, choose a Radio JRiver station, and play it to an IdPi. It's working well.
This gives us access and control via Panel on any device that runs a modern browser.
Gotcha. So I've signed into your Outside Id, and can play the Radio JRiver stations. That's pretty snazzy. I guess in this instance, I'm still streaming "your" music, not mine? You say Doctor Who has something like that now, but in order to see that I have to be connected to my MC server, right? For example, I open up JRemote on my server and I see my Doctor Who playlists. If I play them, it streams through my server. If I connect JRemote to your Id, I obviously don't see my Doctor Who lists.
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So, let me see if I understand: This is a collection of radio stations hosted on AWS featuring lossless content, expanded by user content uploads?
If so, how is music categorised? Automatically via [Genre] tags? By someone who administers the stations?
I only ask because you could call both The Rolling Stones and Altar of Plagues "Rock" in the basest sense but listeners of either are not likely to care at all for the other. :P
So how does this work?
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At this time, its public face is a small number of radio stations, curated by JRiver, assisted by JRiver users.
You can also use the links you receive to play any playlists you upload.
At some time in the future, we may expand the definition. If or when we do that, we might be able to use Play Doctor logic, so that skipping certain tracks would be noted in order to improve the experience.
Another possibility would be to match users with similar taste.
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Gotcha. So I've signed into your Outside Id, and can play the Radio JRiver stations. That's pretty snazzy. I guess in this instance, I'm still streaming "your" music, not mine? You say Doctor Who has something like that now, but in order to see that I have to be connected to my MC server, right? For example, I open up JRemote on my server and I see my Doctor Who playlists. If I play them, it streams through my server. If I connect JRemote to your Id, I obviously don't see my Doctor Who lists.
You could use Panel (or another remote) to connect to your server. You would then see your playlists. I don't think the Doctor Who playlists are exposed, but you could try it. Doctor Who is just an example of how an interface might work.
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I haven't used the capabilities of MC nearly enough - what a product!
My gripe is not with MC per se, but with the content of the Classical radio - there is little (if any) music written before 1850 available. I listen to music composed during the late 19th, the 20th and 21st centuries - what used to be classified as "avant-garde". Berg, Webern, Cage - music to my ears!
Perhaps a subsection for those of us who are old but listen to new music that isn't popular, at least not popular with many people I know? If not, no big deal - I'll continue to listen to my library.
Thanks again for making such an excellent product. I'm in negotiations with my accountant re: a small donation.
Badotz
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I'd like to interact fully with the new Radio JRiver. I seem to have only a partial implementation working on my 24.0.41 (64-bit). Here's what I see on my setup:
The Streaming section shows the Radio JRiver button on the right main panel but not on the expanded list on the left side, maybe that's expected. When I click the Radio JRiver button in the browser section, I see the 5 stations you have at this time, the last one being "1 - Singles". When I choose the station it does start streaming lossless which is great.
However my Playlists right-click does not include the Upload to Cloud option written about on this forum. I do see the Upload Playlist to Dr. Who option (which I am logged into after creating that account just today) but no choices about uploading to the Cloud.
In addition I find no way to identify any of the playlists in the Cloud for radio that currently exist from others. I can only play the stations you have.
I have setup the Media Server on the same Win7 X64 Pro laptop and have used the Internet perfectly fine for streaming my own library to JRemote on my iPhone.
I also can stream the stations from JRiver Panel (Firefox) but it only shows me 4 of the 5 stations the MC shows me, station "1 - Singles" is missing from Panel. Again I see no way to access Playlists uploaded by others. Maybe I'm missing the point of what's intended here.
One minor other discovery was the easiest way to access all the songs in the station was to right click on the button, choose Properties, copy the URL, then File -> Open URL... in MC and it expanded the multiplaylists so I see 336 songs in "1 - Singles" and just saved them as a playlist to get back easier next time.
Thanks for any clarifications.
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I installed MediaCenter24004-x64 and looked for the Radio JRiver when I got the latest news email. The Radio JRiver is not even in my streaming menu and I can not find it anywhere else. I then updated to MediaCenter240041-x64 and it is still not in the menu at all. :( because I can not try it out.
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@bonzip
If you select streaming - Radio JRiver should be the very last station in the display window - for some reason unknown to me, it doesn't appear in the expanded streaming menu.
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Playlist upload is limited to the beta team at this time. It will be more widely available in about a week.
There are a few Rock playlists in this thread:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,116601.0.html
They should be the same as the playlists included in Singles. Singles will be available in Panel in a day or two.
The stations will continue to change as we add new playlists. The playlists are delivered in a different order each time you play, but the tracks within them are always in the same sequence.
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OK thanks for the clarifications. I was also able to stream the Radio Singles playlist from Internet to my MC server setup then to my iPhone JRemote via WiFi at home (Internet/Cell Data works too when I'm away) and from there Bluetooth to a small speaker. Quite a wireless chain but it sounded very very good in the room.
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Great. Thanks for the report.
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This works pretty well.....
Thanks!
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The stations will continue to change as we add new playlists. The playlists are delivered in a different order each time you play, but the tracks within them are always in the same sequence.
If you turn Shuffle on, then the order of the tracks in each playlist may change. At least they did when there was just one playlist. Not sure what this does to the Classical station, assuming there are multiple movements to most pieces. Maybe those need to be linked to work correctly with Shuffle on - not sure.
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Sounds great! Is there away to access Radio JRiver in theater view?
Also any plans to stream 5.1? Blue man group have got some killer 5.1 files to test out your hi-fi!
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Not in Theater View at this time. Panel will work.
No 5.1 for now. It's possible.
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Wow worked first time,, THX
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Any news of developments in JRiver Radio? Can I have my upload cap increased?
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John's on vacation this week, so it will need to wait until he's back.
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Ok, thanks JimH
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managed to send radio paradise to avr pioneer sc-2022 via dlna - https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,115480.msg809057.html#msg809057 (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,115480.msg809057.html#msg809057) but it doesn't work with radio jriver
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Is there a way to initiate a stream or switch to JRiver Streaming using JRemote?
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I just installed MC 24.045(64bit). Under "Streaming I find there is no JRiver option. What is this about?
Radio paradise is there along with lots of other selections. Thanks.
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Click on Streaming, then look on the right.
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managed to send radio paradise to avr pioneer sc-2022 via dlna - https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,115480.msg809057.html#msg809057 (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,115480.msg809057.html#msg809057) but it doesn't work with radio jriver
replaced 2022 with top of the line pioneer sc-lx 901 and it still doesn't work. is this as designed and intended (not) to work this way?
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Is there a way to initiate a stream or switch to JRiver Streaming using JRemote?
Using JRiver Remote I now see that the current file shows along with cover art. That is nice but what if I wanted to switch from JRiver Radio Classical to Jazz?
Thanks!
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replaced 2022 with top of the line pioneer sc-lx 901 and it still doesn't work. is this as designed and intended (not) to work this way?
Hi - Cool idea for the FLAC radio, and hope you can get it to work on DLNA devices. However, I too cannot get this to work with a DLNA Yamaha receiver. Was able to get JRiver Radio working on my laptop in 'Player' through the laptop speakers. Then, I highlighted the full playlist and did 'Send to' over to my Yamaha RXA-1070, which is my normal DLNA device and can play FLAC (I normally it to play my own FLAC library on a NAS, controlled w/ JRiver).
After I did this, the Yamaha zone in JRiver showed the full JRiver Radio playlist queued up but it never played the music - each song was selected for a couple seconds before it moved on to the next one on the list, all the while without any sound, it just kept bouncing through the songs until I clicked stop.
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Using JRiver Remote I now see that the current file shows along with cover art. That is nice but what if I wanted to switch from JRiver Radio Classical to Jazz?
Thanks!
Did you try Panel?
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If you add the files to a playlist you will probably be able to pick them up from a dlna link.
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Hi - Cool idea for the FLAC radio, and hope you can get it to work on DLNA devices. However, I too cannot get this to work with a DLNA Yamaha receiver. Was able to get JRiver Radio working on my laptop in 'Player' through the laptop speakers. Then, I highlighted the full playlist and did 'Send to' over to my Yamaha RXA-1070, which is my normal DLNA device and can play FLAC (I normally it to play my own FLAC library on a NAS, controlled w/ JRiver).
After I did this, the Yamaha zone in JRiver showed the full JRiver Radio playlist queued up but it never played the music - each song was selected for a couple seconds before it moved on to the next one on the list, all the while without any sound, it just kept bouncing through the songs until I clicked stop.
I see no reason why it shouldn't work given that radio paradise does. but in fact jriver radio doesn't and it behaves on my pio the very same way you just described your yamaha - connecting, waiting for few seconds, no sound then advancing to the next one
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I see no reason why it shouldn't work given that radio paradise does. but in fact jriver radio doesn't and it behaves on my pio the very same way you just described your yamaha - connecting, waiting for few seconds, no sound then advancing to the next one
It looks like when playing Radio JRiver, it's ignoring the DLNA server configuration, and just trying to send the file as is to the DLNA device. The DLNA device might not be able to handle flac or ape files. Playing Radio Paradise follows the DLNA server configuration, so it should still work.
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It looks like when playing Radio JRiver, it's ignoring the DLNA server configuration, and just trying to send the file as is to the DLNA device. The DLNA device might not be able to handle flac or ape files. Playing Radio Paradise follows the DLNA server configuration, so it should still work.
I can't speak for the other poster's experience, but as noted in my case my Yamaha RXA-1070 receiver is perfectly capable of .FLAC files, and that is how I usually listen to my own music collection (send FLAC files from my NAS to the Yamaha natively, no conversion...and they show up on the Yamaha as FLAC per Yamaha app audio information)
So playback of FLAC is not the issue behind Radio JRiver not working for me as described above (skipping through the playlist every few seconds with no audio).
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Did you try Panel?
Thanks. I tried it but did not understand how to direct the sound away from my phone to my audio server. I finally figured that out and it works very well. It is really great that you are offering this streaming feature.
I do still prefer the interface of JRemote. Will you still be supporting and developing it or are you migrating to Panel?
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I can't speak for the other poster's experience, but as noted in my case my Yamaha RXA-1070 receiver is perfectly capable of .FLAC files
so is pioneer of course
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The DLNA device might not be able to handle flac or ape files.
Using ape files makes no sense. Other than the obvious connection, there is no reason to be using them these days.
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Dare I ask about any progress towards uploading other genres, I have some classical and jazz available for upload when ready.
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Dare I ask about any progress towards uploading other genres, I have some classical and jazz available for upload when ready.
Could you send to me? Include both links for each playlist and include the station it should be added to.
I just started a thread on what we're thinking about doing next.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,117095.msg810058.html#msg810058
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JRiver Radio just refuses to be sent to my network streamer - it is doing the flick through the playlist thing. Does the same when directed via panel to play to the streamer. Using 24.0.49.
EDIT: You get the same behaviour if the network streamer picks up a cloud playlist while in music server mode. DLNA just doesn't work. The JRiver Radio server must be responding in an odd way to the download requests. The same cloud playlists play fine if activated within MC and played by direct usb connection to the network streamer.
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Is anyone looking at improving JRiver Radio. At the moment this is a product aimed at only people with a direct play out to a network streamer - not really what people are looking for on the whole. Don't like critcising JRiver it is great overall but the radio staion needs a lot of work.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "play out to a network streamer".
You can use it directly in MC or on a remote machine by using Panel.
What did you have in mind?
Yes, we're still working on it. The server problem brought everything to a halt for a couple of weeks.
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Well Jim, If I chose to send the stream to a network receiver as I do with Radio Paradise, I expect it to play the sequence of tracks selected not to just skip through them without playing. I know that this is a new project as far as J~River is concerned, but users wil have certain expectations, espescially as JRiver is pretty exceptional in all aspects of it's performance in every other area, bur I do feel feel that JRiver Radio was launched a bit prematurely. Personally I don't like having to say all this I have the greatest respect for what you are all doing .
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What are you playing to?
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I am sending to a pioneer n 50A. But I think you are ignoring the many other posts mentioning the same problem.
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I'm not ignoring anything. There are just a lot of possible cases, and some won't work.
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It looks like when playing Radio JRiver, it's ignoring the DLNA server configuration, and just trying to send the file as is to the DLNA device. The DLNA device might not be able to handle flac or ape files. Playing Radio Paradise follows the DLNA server configuration, so it should still work.
Enough said!
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same problem here. I can send radio paradise to my AVR Pioneer SC-LX 901 as last version finally fixed most of its problems (starting it using panel still doesn't work for me and I have to use desktop pc app) but radio jriver just doesn't work the same way
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... I do feel feel that JRiver Radio was launched a bit prematurely.
I thought I might say a little about how we work. Maybe you know this, but we often launch the core of a new feature before we add all the bells and whistles for it. This lets us get a good indication of how well received it may be, and it gives us feedback on what direction to go with it.
You may not like this approach, but it is what we do.
In this particular case, the Radio functionality is working well. It doesn't yet support DLNA. It does work with our Panel remote.
We're not at all finished with Radio JRiver. Please enjoy what works, tell us what you want, and be patient during the process.
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I fully understand your business model. I am just a little concerned that people will try it in the way I described and then just give up on it, which makes it more difficult to build up a paying user base of which I am one.
Regards
AH
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I just saw that Jim said that the Radio functional doesn't support DLNA which explains (I think) why, after endless sweating over settings in JRiver and JRemote, I can't get any sound to play in my networked PS Audio DAC.
Can anyone tell us when DLNA will be supported?
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We're working on it.
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Thanks Jim. I'm really looking forward to it. I think high resolution streaming can be a big part in the future of music for audiophiles. Spotify has a huge chunk of the streaming market but for some reason has not yet seen fit to offer a high resolution option. If they ever do, look out.
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The next step we will take is to see if we can hook up the Doctor Who interface (under Playlists) and use it to let people upload playlists and play them from our server. We will probably reset the existing data.
We've taken a break on this for two reasons. Our recent server problems put the brakes on any development for a few weeks. And there were some back end server pieces necessary for reporting purposes.
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Does this mean that our existing uploads will be removed?
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I don't think so. Just the previous Dr. Who playlist uploads (which had no files).
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Thanks JimH in that case I might rebuild my upload library. Aren't you going to have a lot of Dr Who users miffed if their playlists are wiped?
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Hi all,
Just tried a send to my pioneer-N50A from JRiver Radio and unlike the previous behaviour of flicking through the playlist I get a little message that the device is receiving an unsupported format, strange because this is a flac file which I can send to my device from my main library and it plays perfectly. Radio paradise can send flac files to the device with no problem. Just a heads up!
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Any updates on the JRiver Radio status?
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I'm confused bout this feature:
Upload to Cloud
You can build a playlist of FLAC, APE, or ALAC files and Upload to Cloud (JRiver's server at Amazon). You will receive an e-mail with links.
I can't seem to find any tools to do this in MC. Can someone point me to some directions on this feature? Using v.24.0.55
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I'm confused bout this feature:
I can't seem to find any tools to do this in MC. Can someone point me to some directions on this feature? Using v.24.0.55
Click Playlists in the tree
Right Click a Playlist
Click Upload to Cloud
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I don't think the upload to cloud feature is available to non-beta team members yet, but it will be eventually when they iron out the methodology.
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It won't be long now.
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Could I please request a film score - trailer music Radio JRiver channel?
Thank you.
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Any updates on JRiver radio?
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Nothing public yet, but we're close.
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Nice to hear. Waiting aghast!
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I don't think the upload to cloud feature is available to non-beta team members yet, but it will be eventually when they iron out the methodology.
It's now available to everyone. You need 24.0.70, just posted at the top of this board (or higher). More here (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,118655.msg820793.html#msg820793).
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What is the minimum length of a track for playback from the jriver upload system - the 42 second intro track of an album doesn't play and the second track is played instead - had I known I would have edited the tracks so that the 42 second one was added to the second track.
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Is it possible to delete the uploaded files and replace them with versions which work correctly?
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I don't know of a minimum length, but it's possible we introduced a bug when we fixed a problem with Radio Paradise.
If you upload a playlist again, the new one should take effect.
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Ok Jim, I will edit the audio files and try uploading them again. Any advances on playing to a dlna device yet - mine still skips happily from file to file telling me that this file is not supported even though it is a standard flac file.
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Not yet.
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Just to let you know that playback of short tracks is now working ?
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I am morbidly curious about licensing of the files we send in works.
How can you handle if someone sends in a file from some esoteric show pulled from a bootleg, etc? I listen to a ton of Japanese music ripped from CDs because there is zero easy digital option to purchase (I have found a relatively easy way to purchase FLAC/WAV from E-Onkyo though...). What happens if I upload such a track? Just curious. Didn't see it mentioned or talked about in the thread history, sorry if something similar was asked before and I missed it.
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Hi Steve,
We're tracking and paying the license fees for streaming. You streaming your own file doesn't count. Is that what you mean?
Jim
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Hi Steve,
We're tracking and paying the license fees for streaming. You streaming your own file doesn't count. Is that what you mean?
Jim
Yep, that's it exactly. So unless you put my files in a playlist (which I honestly doubt many people would actually want!) then you aren't charged.
I will toss some money in the till just to support it once I put a playlist or two up either way though.
Thanks Jim!
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Still can't use a dlna network media device to play anything from jriver - just skips happily from file to file telling me that the normally playable flac file is of a type it can't deal with. I guess it is sending a .mpl file or the like to the renderer. But on the plus side Radio Paradise works very well!
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I am getting nothing but a notification that I am not connecting with the server when I try to get the new features on MC24(newest version 64).
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Check your antivirus/firewall settings to ensure that MC 24 can get through to the server.
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Great! Thanks!
Here's how:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119651.msg827304.html#msg827304
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There are a couple of new stations and lots more music now in MC25. More here:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119839.0.html
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Hi there,
after updating MC25 under Win10 (all updates) i cant get lossles Radio paradise. Ther is an Info Box with a message:
Cant connect to the site. Verify adress http. localhost52199 is correct. It works fine under MC25 Version .95. After Updating to .98 it does not work anymore.
I need assistance. :-(
Tks
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I am having success in listening to Radio JRiver on my computer, but when I send to my DAC I see JRiver cycling through the files, but nothing plays through the DAC. I don't have this issues when I stream Public Radio. Any hypotheses or fixes. Thanks.
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How is your DAC connected?
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Perhaps anyone with the same issue?
There is no MS Antivirus running, Firewall is open for MC25.
Best wishes
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We need more information on how you are connected and what software you're using (MC, Panel, JRiver for Android ... Not all possibilities are yet implemented.
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Hi, I am at the end of MC25 trying periode and have a "complaint" about a very positive, even dramatic change to MC24 sound quality which came as very pleasant surprise.
I am a mostly classical audiophile (having made the Phillips Golden Ear Challange in one sitting session) and have experienced a very pronounced sound performance improvement from MC24 and MC25 , which I coudn't find advertised.
I observed this with RME Babyface (and also to some extent LH GeekOut v2 Infinity) with Genelec boxes.
And also between ASIO driver and WASAPI, WASAPI giving the markedly more dynamic and spacious, natural experience than ASIO. Also 32 Bit (Integer) output made an improvement, albeit the RME accepts 24Bit audio inputs only. (Not dependent on the equalizer improvement, which was announced.)
All parameter settings are being equal (MC24 vs MC25 and ASIO vs. WASAPI within MC25) , so the reason is obviously not within the algorithms in the audio path. The only explanation I could imagine are some internal parameter settings, which might hit a sweet point of the DAC but only in combination with WASAPI.
I couldn't achieve this very good performance even playing with HQ-Player's many filtering possibilities and advanced DSD conversions.
The drawback (and that is my complaint) with WASAPI is that the sample rate needs to be set manually to the actual audio source, MC is not capable to adjust automatically (ASIO does this).
Is there any exact explanation? Perhaps could Jim find this observation useful as a real potential for further improvement also for ASIO and for other DACS.
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Hey guys -- as I sit back enjoying my first listen of A Bad Think - The Savior in surround sound, I wonder if JRiver has thoughts on making multichannel lossless files streamable? Even if limited to FLAC (vs. DSF, etc.) it would be quite incredible.
-Doug
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OK, for you, we'll do it!
Remind us if you don't see something soon.
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Hey guys -- as I sit back enjoying my first listen of The Savior - A Bad Think in surround sound, I wonder if JRiver has thoughts on making multichannel lossless files streamable? Even if limited to FLAC (vs. DSF, etc.) it would be quite incredible.
-Doug
OK, for you, we'll do it!
Remind us if you don't see something soon.
Now we're talking! Let us know if/when we can upload some surround music, Jim....
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OK, for you, we'll do it!
Remind us if you don't see something soon.
Cool Jim! I've got a massive collection of surround music; I recall some of my first posts on this forum were asking how to properly play 5.1 .WMA lossless files back in...MC12? What a journey. :)
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OK, for you, we'll do it!
Remind us if you don't see something soon.
Now this is what I am talking about, looking forward to this being implemented!
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Stand by. Hopefully today or tomorrow.
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Stand by. Hopefully today or tomorrow.
Any word on this? Maybe I missed it.
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OK, for you, we'll do it!
Remind us if you don't see something soon.
Jim bumping this as you said to if we didn't hear anything. Any word?
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Not sure if this is the correct thread, I listen to lossless but recently I lost WASABI function on my HP Win10 machine. Had been working fine till I started fiddling around with high resolution settings to get the most out of Amazon music HD. Now I cannot get WASABI to work. Wondering if the driver issue is the cause but this is a newer HP purchased last year. Drivers appear to be up to date. Running JRiver 25. Plan to upgrade to 26 when available but want to get back to WASABI before November’s release date. Any ideas? I use HDMI out to an Onkyo receiver and tri-amplified speakers. Thanks, HVAC
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OK, for you, we'll do it!
Remind us if you don't see something soon.
Jim, any comment on multi channel audio?
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Multi-channel should be working in the next build of MC26. It will be public mid-December.
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Split Progressive Rock Station (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123261.msg819857.html#msg819857)
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I spent the afternoon listening to and raving about Radio JRiver. Love love love it. I’d like to subscribe but would like to understand cancellation mechanism first. Is it posted somewhere?
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You can donate through Paypal. If you choose monthly, you terminate through Paypal. It's easy.
Thanks for the kind words.