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Devices => Androids and other portables => Topic started by: JimH on November 30, 2018, 04:37:17 pm
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It's on the Play Store now as beta. It's $9.98.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,118399.0.html
Working Now
Audio playback to the device, using files from the device.
Audio playback to another DLNA device, using files from the device.
Supported audio file types are the same as MC.
It's still a little fragile and probably will be for a few weeks.
Not Working Yet
Radio
Future Plans
Playlists, Video, Images
Known Problems
On startup, volume may be muted. Just adjust the volume. Turn phone sideways if needed.
Why Android
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,118438.msg819359.html#msg819359
Audio Quality
The first few builds used the browser for playback. Beginning with 24.0.7, audio is played in the new Android JRiver engine.
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Using the navigation buttons for search, playlist etc at the top of the screen causes dropouts in the file currently playing.
Twice so far (about 1 hour) when I hit the 'Home' button, it deleted the playlist and stopped the currently playing file mid track.
It's still fragile. That should improve quickly.
The orange button on the home page takes me to a page that says 'Radio JRiver' but it has no controls and nothing happens.
Not yet working.
The pink button says 'no car radio buttons have been saved' but I have no idea what this means or how to make it work. There doesn't seem to be any way of setting them up.
Not yet working.
Is it possible to import, create (non current) or save a playlist?
Not yet. Play with Play Doctor should work.
Thanks for the report.
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Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to enjoying such a great app on my phone :)
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Thank you.
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Congratulations on your 1st public beta of JRiver for Android. My initial report follows.
I installed it on a Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo, Android 6.0.1 and all went fine.
Browser opens pointing to localhost (the phone) and is able to display the Panel interface (yay!)
Good news: My phone shows up as a DLNA zone on my computer (running MC) identified as SM-G903F
I then try to play a regular FLAC track residing on my PC to my phone:
a) the phone somehow receives the information about the track from the MC desktop - it is able to display its name - good.
b) however it is not able to play it. Attempts (via the phone interface) to play it are also fruitless - the time display starts counting up (usually up to 5 seconds) and then resets to 0:00. In any case there is no sound coming out of the phone.
Went back to the entry on the desktop with the DLNA entry SM-G903F referring to the phone. Right click on it.
Device address is displayed correctly -> good
Clicking "Show device webpage" takes me to my phone and to Panel's user authentication page -> good
However if I input my user / password combination into Panel's interface and press the "Login" button nothing seems to happen -> not good.
Not sure how much of the above is expected / not expected.
I'll keep on exploring it a bit more and reporting what I see.
Cheers,
xpto
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As you've found, DLNA is only partially working at this point. You can play from the phone to any DLNA Renderer, but you can't yet play from another DLNA device to the phone. We should be able to get this going soon.
Thanks for the report.
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I installed on a few devices.
Samsung Tab A running Android 5.1.1. JRiver crashes when starting.
FiiO X5III running Android 5.1.1. JRiver crashes on when starting.
Nokia 6.1 running Android 9.0 starts up fine but none of the music on the phone shows up. Should it show up automatically or do I need to import music somehow? Please advise.
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It will import from the default music folder.
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It will import from the default music folder.
Thanks. I moved some music from the SD card to onboard storage. Music shows up now. And Plays.
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On my Nokia 6.1 running Android 9.0. When playing local files to DLNA device I have no control over the volume of my DLNA device through panel. The volume buttons on my phone have no affect. I also tested with JRemote and it's working fine and has volume controls.
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I installed it on my phone and a Zidoo player. It is totally useless for the moment. I not have a real app opened, but a internetpage. All is empty. Normal, as I read above, it will scan the usual libraries on the unit, and not an external hard disc, or sd card.
As my phone memory is to small in size, and have a large sd card in phone , and a external hard disc, on my Zidoo, I hope, soon, the library, as with the Windows program, will be chosen in the settings. ..
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indieke,
The audio must be in the default music directory for now.
Very old versions of Android may not work.
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On my Nokia 6.1 running Android 9.0. When playing local files to DLNA device I have no control over the volume of my DLNA device through panel. The volume buttons on my phone have no affect. I also tested with JRemote and it's working fine and has volume controls.
Try turning the phone sideways (landscape mode). There is a volume slider there.
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Hi There,
Just downloaded the beta.
Installed ok. However, my library did not seem to load as everything is empty.
any setting I need to set?
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indieke,
The audio must be in the default music directory for now.
Very old versions of Android may not work.
Yes, I understand that, but if this not change, it is useless to me. Nothing in my default directory, and no, not an old version, phone from last year and media player Zidoo Z9, out only a few months.
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Could you try moving a few files to the default music directory?
This will change in a future build.
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Sorry if this has been addressed or doesn't apply, but is this something that can be used on a Shield? I don't see it as an option in the play store.
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Sorry if this has been addressed or doesn't apply, but is this something that can be used on a Shield? I don't see it as an option in the play store.
Not yet.
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Hi Jim
Will this offer remains valid untill the Android TV version will available for download on google play store ?
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It's not possible to say yet.
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If you have an Android Phone, or tablet, with JRemote connected to your network.... what benefit or difference or useability will be gained by JRiver for Android ? It seems to be a bit like reinventing the wheel.
I saw a comment that JRemote is the past, which I think might be unsettling for many given that JRemote is for many users the most useful add on to their using JRiver.
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It's the JRiver engine ported to Android, so anything JRiver Media Center can do will be potentially available on Android. Playback of any media file, for example. Serving files through DLNA or with Library Server. Playing files as a Renderer.
Most people think of Android as an OS for a phone, but Android is moving to television and laptops. It's a major OS and JRiver is starting to support it.
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Issue 1:
JRiver uses the default web browser, not Chrome, for rendering the web page. I say this knowing that 99.97% of all Android users are likely just using what Google gives them. I am not normal and actually use Firefox, Chrome and Edge at times and switch often. Edge renders the page but has oddness. Firefox seems OK for now. And yes, I realize that every browser in the Play Store has to use Google's rendering engine. That doesn't change the fact that, for some things like this, there are odd things that don't look right in those browsers.
Your fix will likely be "just use Chrome." My response will be, who are you to tell me how to use my phone? I don't tell you to use Internet Explorer on your Windows 10 PC, don't tell me what browser to use on my phone please. ;)
My current workaround is to just copy the URL and open the browser I want to use. I do not know if there is a way per app to require a specific app be spawned, in this case, Chrome, when you try to open JRiver. If there is, I would say might be a good idea to configure that.
Issue 2:
I have seen it asked several times but not answered. Will JRiver use the default audio path on Android devices or can it use the advanced audio options afforded to devices like LG G6? Or if I plug in a USB-C DAC, can it use that? My understanding is that app have to be specifically coded to allow this capability and not all apps offer it. If JRiver can do today or will be done in the future to offer this, then I would say it could be close to the 1:1 player we have on Windows (eventually). If it doesn't or won't, then I would say the name should be changed as the pedigree will be lost with this new product. My opinion, of course.
Sorry if it sounds like I am bitching. I am not. I can work around the issue I experienced but not sure I should have to.
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And yes, I realize that every browser in the Play Store has to use Google's rendering engine.
No, that's Apple and iOS. Android browsers can use their own rendering engine (Gecko/Quantium for Firefox, EdgeHTML for Edge... until they switch to Chromium/Blink, etc.)
On iOS all web browsers have to use Safari's rendering engine, WebKit, instead of their own they use on other platforms.
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No, that's Apple and iOS. Android browsers can use their own rendering engine (Gecko/Quantium for Firefox, EdgeHTML for Edge... until they switch to Chromium/Blink, etc.)
On iOS all web browsers have to use Safari's rendering engine, WebKit, instead of their own they use on other platforms.
Ah. I was thinking Google had a similar requirement.
Though for the record, Edge on Android already uses Blink. The announcement was blah blah blah, browser is like an OS in and of itself, blah blah blah, we'll use what we know works on Android, blah blah blah.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2017/10/05/microsoft-edge-ios-android-developer/#ppPAY3EWG06siI1S.97
And now it is irrelevant as they move to Blink for Windows 10 Edge.
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It's still very early, so please be patient.
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It's still very early, so please be patient.
Hey Jim.
No worries.
I use JR MC from my PC for listening to music, I don't NEED the Android version. It would be a nice to have and I am happy to wait.
Only reporting what I am seeing in the spirit of a beta/pre-release from the perspective that if it can be fixed, your team will fix it or give an acceptable reason why XYZ can't be made to work and so on.
Can you confirm if MC is using or can use advanced audio paths as opposed to just the default? If only the default, to match the pedigree I would definitely love to see support. Examples being the LG G6 and external audio options, etc.
Thanks Jim.
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I can't give you any definite answer. It's still in transition. It should be clearer soon.
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JohnT got audio working in the app, so we won't need the browser for playback in the next build.
I believe we'll then have support for the formats that MC itself can play.
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Hello,
unfortunately JRiver on Android (newest version) doesn't show any of my mp3-files which I have on my device, neither from internal storage nor from my SD-card (Android 6.0.1 on a Samsung S5).
Please help, because I really would like to enjoy JRiver sound on my phone too like I already do on pc!
Best regards,
Misukasten
I'm sorry, I figured it out: I lost my default android music folder. So I recreated it, put some songs into it and JRiver shows them. Nevertheless it would be great to use my sd-card for playing music, where about 30gb tracks are waiting for JRiver :)
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Hey JRiver team,
The app is progressing nicely. It's great to have the audio playing from the app itself!
I know it's early, but I'd like to put this bug in your ear.
Using the phone during my morning commute, I'm usually running late and don't have much time to mess with my music. Half the time it doesn't make it out of my pocket.
With the app, JRiver now starts automatically when phone pairs with the car Bluetooth. ;D
My request - When I click the Play button on my Bluetooth controller, I want playback to start every time. A default radio button, playlist, Play Doctor, whatever. I just don't want to have interact with my phone, or browse a level or two deep into the interface to start playback.
As always, thanks for your work!
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It makes lots of sense. I agree.
I think our highest priority now is stability. It's too fragile.
Brad thinks he's close to getting playlists working. That's also important.
Maybe a default playlist or set of playlists would help for your case. Car 1, Car 2, ...
Thanks for the feedback.
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Is it possible to change the music folder at this time? My Music is on my SD card not in the default music folder.
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Not yet.
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It's on the Play Store now as beta. It's $9.98.
So it's not covered under my Master License?
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It's not covered by a master license, no. Likely because it's for sale in the Play Store and there's probably restrictions in place by Google not allowing "external" registration of apps. Not sure about that though, but I know with Apple that is indeed the case.
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I have used the Gizmo app, for free, for many years to play music on my android phone, either to headphones or via Bluetooth to a speaker. Can anyone tell me what I will gain by paying for the new JRiver Android app? Is there any way to try it before I buy?
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You probably could wait and try it later. There is no trial, but you can get a refund from the Play Store in the first 2 hours (one time only).
Read the first post to learn more. Other than design being more touch friendly, the major difference at this time is that you can play files from your phone.
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As I read that the music files must currently be on the default music folder... that must be why none of the files on my NAS play?
Any idea when NAS playback will be available ?
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You could do that now by using Panel.
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You could do that now by using Panel.
Yes but isn't there a browser code required to enter to play through Panel ?
Any timeline for Android playback from NAS (something like JetAudio Plus does) ?
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Yes but isn't there a browser code required to enter to play through Panel ?
I'm not sure what you mean. Panel can load the library from a DLNA Server like a NAS. It can play locally on the device where it was started or it can play to a DLNA Renderer. https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Panel
Any timeline for Android playback from NAS (something like JetAudio Plus does) ?
At least a few weeks away.
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AHHHHH.... Thank you so much, Jim. THAT is GREAT news indeed. I can wait ::)
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Did you try Panel?
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Hey Jim,
I agree this is low priority at the moment; I just wanted to throw it out there before I forgot.
The more I think about it, I like the idea of using the Car Radio buttons. The queue could populate from a default Car Radio button whenever it's empty. Long press a Car Radio button to set it as the default ( i.e change the channel). Or just set the last choice as the default.
It makes lots of sense. I agree.
I think our highest priority now is stability. It's too fragile.
Brad thinks he's close to getting playlists working. That's also important.
Maybe a default playlist or set of playlists would help for your case. Car 1, Car 2, ...
Thanks for the feedback.
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Did you try Panel?
No. According to the Wiki, MC needs to be up & running on my Windows PC before Panel will work. My Windows PC is currently down (bad MB) so I need a standalone application like MC for Android.
I use Silicone Dust HD HomeRun Connect Quarto for all my TV viewing & recording. It is connected to my NAS & WiFi router & will record anytime of day even with my PC turned off. That is one really neat feature... no PC needed ;D
I'm looking for a similar solution for all my music which is also on my NAS running through WiFi. So far jetAudio Plus does that for me but would really like to have the ultimate control of MC at my disposal.
So, hopefully you can see why I can wait for a NAS solution as that would be for me the ultimate fix.
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According to the Wiki, MC needs to be up & running on my Windows PC before Panel will work.
Or Mac or Linux. The Id, for example, has Panel built in.
Docker on your NAS might work.
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I have looked at Synology Docker, much too complicated for me at the moment. I'll just wait for full NAS support.
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Will JRiver on Android work with Android Auto and be able to play music in my car when Android Auto is on?
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Will JRiver on Android work with Android Auto and be able to play music in my car when Android Auto is on?
Not yet.
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I see my DLNA renderers in Play To. Any chance casting will be supported?
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I see TV devices are now supported, so does this mean Nvidia Shield?
So I just download the sideload app and install, or do I purchase and then sideload? I'm asking because playstore shows shield as not compatible.
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I see TV devices are now supported, so does this mean Nvidia Shield?
So I just download the sideload app and install, or do I purchase and then sideload? I'm asking because playstore shows shield as not compatible.
It's only partially working. Sorry.
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Just bought myself an NVidia Shield so just need to work out how to use the DLNA function in MC!
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It's not working right just yet. We're trying to fix that.
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All good, thanks for the advice. I'm sure it will be worth the wait!
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Is this going to be like normal MC where each year there's a new major version and an upgrade cost required for that new version?
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Any developments in using external sd card music folders yet?
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I'm also interested about an Android TV version as I also have a Nvidia Shield TV.
Actually I've managed to play DSD dfs files on Kodi (after the installation of a proper add-on) but it doesn't have DoP support so it converts all to PCM.
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Greetings:
December 3rd / 4th, I installed this android version while I was recovering from surgery.
Since then, no luck trying to detect my temporary Windows server.
I remembered the first two releases, I was able to connect to my server.
I have installed it on Galaxy note 3 and 9, still no luck.
I have no issues running Gizmo, EOS, or JRemote on these phones.
Any idea why it does not see my files ?
Thanks.
George
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JRiver for Android can't currently use another server. It only plays files from the Android device.
You could use Panel to open another server.
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I just bought the app and I can't do anything with it (other than look at some photos on my phone). Should I be able to play music from my JRiver server running on my pc while in my house? I have songs physically on my phone that don't show up in the audio window either. I don't see any way to access anything at all other than the photos on my phone.
Maybe I'm missing something, but there aren't many settings available so I'm not sure what to do.
I'm using a Samsung S7,
Thanks
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Music files need to be in the default Music directory on the internal storage. JRiver for Android doesn't yet have an option to change to a custom directory (e.g. Music directory on a microSD card/external storage for example).
Also JRiver for Android is accessed/controlled in a web browser via Panel so a web browser needs to be installed on the device (plus setting it as the default browser under Android's settings is probably a good idea too). See if you can access it by navigating to http://localhost:52199/Panel/ in a web browser on the device.
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Help! I downloaded JRiver Media Player for Android, thinking that it would be a great player to use with high quality headphones. (Samsung Galaxy Note 8) When the app first installs, it does a scan. It pulled up only one album out of the many that are on my phone. (Other players show every album). I then installed the app on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4. It located no music, only a few pictures. I've looked for a way to do a rescan and I cannot find it. I don't want to ask for a refund because I'd rather get the app to work. Please help. Thank you.
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Look above at my last post, music files have to be in the default Music directory on the internal storage of the device. Using external storage (e.g. microSD card) or changing the music directory isn't supported yet.
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We'll try to get that working soon.
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This response is for Awesome Donkey. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!! I wish that JRiver had told us this. I am so appreciative of your help. Thank you again, and Happy New Year.
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Again, thank you to Awesome Donkey for his invaluable help.
I installed JRiver for Android. I found out, through the forums, that the app plays music that is in the Music folder in the device. It does not play music stored on a micro sd card. This makes the app worthless since so many people have files on micro sd cards.
Also, the program has no degree of sophistication, i.e., equalization, etc.
Do you have any plans on addressing these issues? Also, can the app work with a portable USB DAC?
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JRiver on Android is in a very early beta state, as documented here, and in the Play Store with the "unreleased" and "unstable beta" batches.
It'll evolve over time, and it'll gain more capabilities. Don't expect everything to work right now, or very soon. It'll be a journey to get it fully functioning, and expose all of MCs functions to the Android/Panel interface.
This is in-development Beta software, so buckle your seat belt and prepare for a rocky ride. If you want a finished product, you'll have to wait some more time until its in a more complete state.
So in short, we do plan to work on all these things, and expose a lot of Media Centers functions to the Android app. Some of them may be addressed soon, some later.
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Congrats on your new development JRiver for Android. Lots of things to do still.
I installed it on both my Samsung S8 and tablet S2 (2016) SM-T713 . Registered as dlna server on my jriver laptop. Like you wrote SD card not yet working.
My 16/44 flacs are recognized but unable to play. When playing a song I tried to change the player to the smart TV. The play/pause/stop didn't work any more and it started to play a second song simultaneously. Was not able to stop the song on my phone. When going for the quit it crashed.
Missed the equalizer, . Don't like the looks very much. Its a far cry from Shuttle+,Dbpoweramp or BubbleUpPnP/DLNA. So far I don't see any reason to change these programs and replace it with JRiver for android but maybe you'll improve it with in a couple of years.
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I installed it on both my Samsung S8 and tablet S2 (2016) SM-T713 . Registered as dlna server on my jriver laptop. Like you wrote SD card not yet working.
That is now working in the next build, maybe today.
My 16/44 flacs are recognized but unable to play. When playing a song I tried to change the player to the smart TV.
Try stopping playback first, switching the output, then playing. That should work unless the TV has problems.
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24.0.15 should now find media on external drives.
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Scan network not working!
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Scan network not working!
Same here plus Show Network Properties also not working.
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Uninstalled & reinstalled version 15 & I can now play files from my Synology NAS, except...
1: If I select another file to play the first one does not stop; same for 3rd selection. Will end up with several files playing at the same time.
2: Play, Pause & Next does not want to work in the Taskbar, they do nothing.
But, it's getting there... thanks.
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More information... Play, Pause & Next does after all seem to work... partly.
1: When I first load MC for android there seems to be two instances of it running. One where the Play, Pause & Next does nothing.
2: Upon closing the first instance of MC the other instance will allow me to use the Play, Pause & Next buttons on the Taskbar but only if I double click on them. Most strange.
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Play, Pause, Next update...
Found I don't have to double-click on them, they are just very slow to act. If I click (once) & wait they will slowly load.
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Don't know if it's just my phone (Samsung Galaxy S7) or if it's the app, but though I got JRiver on Android to recognize most of the files on my 400 gb micro-sd card (98% flac + a few mp3s and oggs), it seems to hang at 4,056 of roughly 5,500 files, at least according to the "Recently Imported" playlist; the deficit's not just there, however, as when I go into "Artist," tracks from many albums are not present for some of said artists (e.g., under "Nirvana," I see tracks from only "MTV Unplugged" and "Incesticide," but nothing from "Nevermind," "In Utero," or "Bleach"). I've uninstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled, and both times it got to 4,056 and seemingly stopped adding files, including playlists, as I see none of my own making in the "Playlist" view.
Anyone else having this problem, or is it a known issue? Or is it likely just my phone?
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I'm curious if anyone has done extensive battery use testing on JRiver vs other media players. I did so very casually this week. For two two-hour periods, I put my phone on airplane mode and used JRiver for one two-hour block and VLC during the other. The difference was obvious on battery drain, but it was a very unscientific study, so I don't want to post my "results."
Is there anything on the JRiver roadmap to look at this? I know the product is very young, beta, etc, so my expectations are appropriately set that it doesn't outperform other media apps in all categories. For instance, with VLC, there was an obvious pop/ skip at each track that wasn't present with JRiver. I assume in the end that JRiver will take more resources because it's doing a better job.
However, I would really like to see some focus on resource drain.
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Curious if both battery tests were after a full charge or directly one after another?
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Curious if both battery tests were after a full charge or directly one after another?
Different days and the battery was about the same starting both tests (roughly 70%).
EDIT: But like I said, this was far from scientific. If I was to do this again and want to capture reliable data points, I'd probably come off of a full charge, a restart, and set playback fo a few hours both times.
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Hi all,
Does this app have the ability to run in exclusive mode to prevent other phone services from interrupting playback?
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Hi, is there a way to purchase JRiver for Android without using the Play Store?
Thanks!
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Hi, is there a way to purchase JRiver for Android without using the Play Store?
The Play Store is likely the only option.
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Hi all,
Does this app have the ability to run in exclusive mode to prevent other phone services from interrupting playback?
Bump for my question. Can anyone help?
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Bump for my question. Can anyone help?
Not yet. I don't know if that's going to change any time soon.
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Just curious, have you guys run any kind of poll to see if MC users are looking for an Android local playback machine or a client that could use theater view and run on Android TV boxes? Maybe it is because I want the client version so I can sit back and use my Harmony remote but I seem to notice lots of users asking for it too. I'm hoping that the current MC on Android will eventually get there. After getting used to MC I don't care for Plex at all and while MO 4Media is my go to remote player the Android TV support is not very good. Honestly I think if the client just ran on the Shield and a couple other popular Android TV boxes you'd have a hit.
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Maybe it is because I want the client version so I can sit back and use my Harmony remote but I seem to notice lots of users asking for it too.
Me too. On my Sony Android TV. As long as it supported all formats and HDMI ARC (Audio Return Channel) so that I could output audio from the TV back to a Receiver for full surround sound. That would probably mean that I would have to move some functions to the Receiver though, such as Room Correction, and if it didn't support DSP then that would also have to be moved to the Receiver. I don't really want to do that stuff on a Receiver though. Unless it was a DLNA connection and I could do the DSP on the Server...
I guess there are a few issues to consider. But if I could move the HTPC/Server out of the viewing room and just have the TV and Receiver, or Pre-amp and Amp, in the room, that would be good. But the solution would be great for houses which have multiple TVs all accessing the one MC Server. (That isn't me.) But my brother, who has a Lounge, Kitchen, and Family room TV. Plus used to have bedroom TVs for three kids. He could certainly use it!
Honestly I think if the client just ran on the Shield and a couple other popular Android TV boxes you'd have a hit.
Sony TV, please.
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Sony TV, please.
Sony hasn't been playing nice with some apps lately:
https://torrentfreak.com/sony-says-it-will-fix-kodi-problem-in-next-update/ (https://torrentfreak.com/sony-says-it-will-fix-kodi-problem-in-next-update/)
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Well, issues like that are always going to arise. Hopefully Sony is being honest and it will be fixed.
But Sony wants to police all media usage everywhere, so it wouldn't be surprising if someone thought they would try to block the application. Wouldn't be hard, despite what Sony says.
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Don't know if it's just my phone (Samsung Galaxy S7) or if it's the app, but though I got JRiver on Android to recognize most of the files on my 400 gb micro-sd card (98% flac + a few mp3s and oggs), it seems to hang at 4,056 of roughly 5,500 files, at least according to the "Recently Imported" playlist; the deficit's not just there, however, as when I go into "Artist," tracks from many albums are not present for some of said artists (e.g., under "Nirvana," I see tracks from only "MTV Unplugged" and "Incesticide," but nothing from "Nevermind," "In Utero," or "Bleach"). I've uninstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled, and both times it got to 4,056 and seemingly stopped adding files, including playlists, as I see none of my own making in the "Playlist" view.
Anyone else having this problem, or is it a known issue? Or is it likely just my phone?
Bump on this. Just curious if there's a file limit on the app or on Android, or anything I might try on the phone itself to troubleshoot, or even any logs to send.
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Adding my vote to those of rec head and RodrickGI above.
I use a Zidoo X9S Android TV box for music playback on my living room a-v system. I make use of the Kodi media centre app with the native Zidoo remote handset to produce a full screen theatre type display which is easy to navigate from across the room. Zidoo also include a Music app with their boxes but this is hopeless and assigns incorrect artist and song names to most of my tracks. My media is stored both on a external ssd plugged into one of the Zidoo's USB ports and on my NAS.
I'd love to be able to use JR for Android with a theatre style display instead.
Most chargeable Android apps on the Play store allow a time-limited trial period. I wonder if JR for Android might offer this too when the app is officially released?
Wishing you success with the app's development.
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JB
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Just came back from vacation to try the newest version.
Via USB to dedicated DAC
Android TV: Q10Pro w 10tb WD drive -> LH Labs Revive (USB Reclocker) -> LH Labs Geek Pulse Infinity + LPS4
Phone: LG V20 -> LH Labs Revive (USB Reclocker) -> LH Labs Geek Pulse Infinity + LPS4
Comments:
1. It WORKS!
2. As some have noted, not all of my music are reflected on the database (mostly 44.1/96/192 flac, DSD 64/128/256 files, DXD wav)
3. Could not see my video files. Images yes, videos no.
4. On playing different files, could see in my DAC that is constantly playing at 192khz. JRiver is using the ASL? You need to get around this to have better SQ. UAPP, Neutron MP, HibyMusic have done this.
5. On my Android TV, stutter occurs (processor dependent?) when playing DSD64 and up. Increase buffers?
Via Smartphone only
Comments:
1. It WORKS!
2. As above could not see my video files and some of my music files.
3. Stutters when playing DSD128 and up (definitely processor dependent...) same with DXD wav. Please have option to increase buffers.
Others:
1. Plays 44.1/96/192 Flacs, DSD 64 and DSD 128/256 (with stutters/pause), DXD wav (w/ stutters/pause)
2. Saw entry and playlist of .ISO sacd file. But JRiver crashed when played.
3. Need Folder view.
These are for now will update when have more time.
Michael
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The original post here lists "playlists" under Future Plans. I see now I can create a playlist from playing now.... but do future plans include importing MC playlists? …. Hope so!
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Fingers crossed you get it playing nicely with Android TV. I use Kodi at the moment for music playback from my NAS but it's a bit clunky. Having it my Shield TV with a remote on my tablet (actually the Yatse remote makes playing music via Kodi significantly more user friendly) would be my ideal solution.
I'll keep an eye on how things go.
Thanks.
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24.0.15 should now find media on external drives.
My audio files are all on a microSD card in the phone. I installed the 24.0.16 release and don't see any audio files. I keep checking but no files have been imported.
I have not found a command to import from a folder or to start the auto-import process and point it to my audio files. Documentation please.
FYI. I'm using the Foobar2000 app and it finds and plays my files just fine.
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My audio files are all on a microSD card in the phone. I installed the 24.0.16 release and don't see any audio files. I keep checking but no files have been imported.
I have not found a command to import from a folder or to start the auto-import process and point it to my audio files. Documentation please.
FYI. I'm using the Foobar2000 app and it finds and plays my files just fine.
The files on the SD card need to be in a folder simply called Music - according to some of the postings I have seen. Might not be relevant.
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The files on the SD card need to be in a folder simply called Music - according to some of the postings I have seen. Might not be relevant.
Earlier, JimH said that the current release only looked in the Music folder on the built-in storage. Does that apply to the MicroSD card as well?
As I said before, some documentation is needed.
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I think the audio needs to be in the Music folder on the microSD card. You could test that by putting a couple of files there.
We intend to improve this.
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Yes. Soon.
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Can one 'issue' be addressed in the short term? JRiver for Android currently seems to import all media files on at least the internal storage. This is good... except it also imports .wav files used for notifications in applications. For example, JRiver for Android picks up on the two .wav files Hangouts uses for notification sounds (they're called Hangouts Call and Hangouts Message). IMO, it should exclude these - it adds them to the Unassigned artist field at the end of the library.
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I have noticed on my devices, JRiver creates files in two or three folders. Are these database/cache files?
So when my database grows, these files wil increase also? Or JRiver will have some maintenance/optimization for bloating to many files.
Thanks!
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I think the audio needs to be in the Music folder on the microSD card. You could test that by putting a couple of files there.
We intend to improve this.
Thanks, Jim.
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Can one 'issue' be addressed in the short term? JRiver for Android currently seems to import all media files on at least the internal storage. This is good... except it also imports .wav files used for notifications in applications. For example, JRiver for Android picks up on the two .wav files Hangouts uses for notification sounds (they're called Hangouts Call and Hangouts Message). IMO, it should exclude these - it adds them to the Unassigned artist field at the end of the library.
it also imports all my camera pictures and videos from the sdcard which i'll never need in the player.
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Yes. Soon.
Was this an answer to my "import playlists" question? Sorry, wasn't clear....
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Yes.
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Was this an answer to my "import playlists" question? Sorry, wasn't clear....
Yes, it's being worked on now. It actually kind of works already on the latest version. It works best if the playlists are on a secondary storage device. It can import playlists from the primary storage, but at the moment, they need to be in the default Music folder if they're stored on the primary storage device. Keep in mind that Media Center does not import .pla playlists.
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Yes, it's being worked on now. It actually kind of works already on the latest version. It works best if the playlists are on a secondary storage device. It can import playlists from the primary storage, but at the moment, they need to be in the default Music folder if they're stored on the primary storage device. Keep in mind that Media Center does not import .pla playlists.
"Secondary storage device"... as in an SD card on my device (phone in this case)? And primary storage being my phone's "non-removeable" storage (/music).
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"Secondary storage device"... as in an SD card on my device (phone in this case)? And primary storage being my phone's "non-removeable" storage (/music).
Yes.
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I was using the Android app today and thought of a few things I'd really like to see and wanted to get them written down. Most of these are notification based requests. I'm curious to know if these are possible, on the roadmap, unlikely, etc.
- The pause/ play response time should be improved. The app feels unresponsive just because of this. I read a few posts of new users who said the app only played for a second, then they realized this was because they hit play, nothing happened, and hit pause, both of those responses were delayed so they got a second of music before the pause was recognized.
- I really don't like that the front page no longer fits on my screen. This changed when the header row, with About and Quit, was introduced. The main view, of 6 tiles, should fit on the screen, as long as the screen is a 'normal' phone size.
- I want to see the audio path of the file. What format is it, how is it being converted, how big is the file, etc
- I want to be able to swipe the app closed. This works, except the notification icon stays around.
- The notification still says JRiver for Android, even though the app says JRiver.
- The notification should really only be triggered when I started playback. I get that you probably want it to hang around if you pause, but if there was a distinction between pause and stop, you could do this (pause keeps it open, stop closes the notification).
- The Play/Pause/Next in the notification should be icons that flex (ie click play and it turns to pause, click pause and it turns to play). There's no reason for both a play and a pause.
- The app should show a more relevant icon, the round circle should be the JRiver logo flattened. I assume you have a flatted logo, but I did the attached in 5 minutes just to show what I mean.
Thanks!
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I have been using JRiver for Android for a couple of months now.
One issue I am running into is that even when music is removed from the library, it stays listed in JRiver.
The other one was discussed before. It does not look like the latest release allows to play music from the /music directory on the SD card. Correct? Is there a timeframe for when this will be fixed ?
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The other one was discussed before. It does not look like the latest release allows to play music from the /music directory on the SD card. Correct? Is there a timeframe for when this will be fixed ?
It does, but you'll probably have to clear the app's data and cache to reset it to get it working. In my case, I had to.
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Just came back from vacation to try the newest version.
Via USB to dedicated DAC
Android TV: Q10Pro w 10tb WD drive -> LH Labs Revive (USB Reclocker) -> LH Labs Geek Pulse Infinity + LPS4
Phone: LG V20 -> LH Labs Revive (USB Reclocker) -> LH Labs Geek Pulse Infinity + LPS4
Comments:
1. It WORKS!
2. As some have noted, not all of my music are reflected on the database (mostly 44.1/96/192 flac, DSD 64/128/256 files, DXD wav)
3. Could not see my video files. Images yes, videos no.
4. On playing different files, could see in my DAC that is constantly playing at 192khz. JRiver is using the ASL? You need to get around this to have better SQ. UAPP, Neutron MP, HibyMusic have done this.
5. On my Android TV, stutter occurs (processor dependent?) when playing DSD64 and up. Increase buffers?
Via Smartphone only
Comments:
1. It WORKS!
2. As above could not see my video files and some of my music files.
3. Stutters when playing DSD128 and up (definitely processor dependent...) same with DXD wav. Please have option to increase buffers.
Others:
1. Plays 44.1/96/192 Flacs, DSD 64 and DSD 128/256 (with stutters/pause), DXD wav (w/ stutters/pause)
2. Saw entry and playlist of .ISO sacd file. But JRiver crashed when played.
3. Need Folder view.
These are for now will update when have more time.
Michael
Please describe the usb cable that connects the android device to the usb reclocker. Is it a OTG usb cable?
RECEIVED ANSWER VIA PM: Michael says "It's just a regular usb-c to usb-a cable adapter. No special settings have been done to both devices."
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It does, but you'll probably have to clear the app's data and cache to reset it to get it working. In my case, I had to.
It does work after I clear the app's data and it resolved both issues. Thanks.
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I have never been able to play my 24/192 flac music files through my good sound system in my living room because JRiver MC is installed on my office PC. My office is too far away from the living room to string cables between them (if I was a bachelor I probably would have).
With the JRiver Android app installed on my smart phone, I can now play 24/192 flac music files through my good sound system in the living room. The sound quality (SQ) is really good.
There was a bit of a learning curve to get this working so I thought I would pass on what I learned.
My setup is:
Samsung S7 phone ---> usb OTG cable ---> DAC ---> powered speakers
I use JRemote running on a tablet to control what is playing through the speakers while I sit on the couch. The S7 runs unattended behind the TV.
I first tried playing the music directly to the powered speakers through the phones' headphone port. This worked but SQ was poor. I knew that I needed to stream digital audio through the phone's usb port to a DAC to have any hope of getting good SQ. I also needed to be able to charge the phone while simultaneously streaming through the same port! I also needed to have my S7 in my pocket and not dedicated to playing music.
In an effort to find alternative solutions, I next tried the above setup with some old tablets I have, and they would not work. It turns out they were not OTG capable. The usb OTG cable is an essential component in my setup. I found an Android app called "USB OTG Checker" that will tell you whether your Android devices' usb port is OTG capable.
So in the short term, I am stuck with the above setup. The SQ of the music as streamed through my S7 is really good, but I can't charge the S7 while it is streaming music. I have made enough progress with this setup to whet my appetite for a permanent solution. I have started searching for cheap tablets that have a charging port separate from the usb port and one or two OTG capable usb ports. The Simbans TangoTab 10" tablet is in the ballpark. Currently $135 on Amazon.
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You don't need a tablet/phone that has two ports. Just one that supports acting as a USB host device at the same time it is being charged. Apparently that can be done through one OTG port, but finding both a device that will do it, and the software, and a cable that properly supports it, can be a bit of a challenge. Mis-information is rife. So do your research well.
An example discussion: https://forums.androidcentral.com/ask-question/890310-any-tablet-otg-charge.html
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The player has been getting better but it has a few things that have irked me.
My usage on android is:
Sync to SDcard:/Music/[Album] -> shuffle all Car / Gym (via bluetooth head unit / headphones)
- Bluetooth connection doesn't take focus from other music apps very well in my car. Bluetooth over all isn't really there for me to drop samsung music.
- Audio folder icon/lists with an option to play all / shuffle all. (I thought this was already in Android but maybe i was in panel?)
- Audio folders icon that allows me to blacklist a folder from my local DB.
- The service doesn't seem to have an easy time getting focus from the OS for me. Things like stopping other music playback don't seem to work correctly.
- I would like a minimum of a single tile widget that's just a play/pause button for my home screen. Having to pull down the notification list, then pull down jriver then press play, then wait is a really long process.
- Long press actions earlier. (Play all artists, albums, this folder, etc)
- To make use of more features i would like to be able to sync my ratings and smart lists as well to android. If it was able to merge data with my local server by identifying local files on the server it would be amazing.
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Bugs:
1. With the new update, i connot play music in JRiver anymore on my Android TV. It starts for a 2-3 seconds without playing sounds and stops.
2. ISO Sacd disc image are recognized but when attempting to play the app crashes.
3. As posted by others, its annoying that I have to wait 3-4 seconds everytime I have to play music.
4. No video
Needs Improvement:
Very good sound rendering BUT still using ASL (How do I know this? My DAC displays 192K no matter what i throw at it). UAPP, HibyMusic, NeutronMP, Onkyo MP just to mention a few have done this (bypass ASL) for years.
Wants:
Folder View. File explorer to play media. Not all files are imported or cataloged.
Keep it up!
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I recently download the Android App and found one thing I would like to see changed. There is an "Alphabet Slider" at the top of the list of Songs/Artists/Albums. But as soon as I scroll, or use the slider, the slider disappears because it is always at the top of the page. The slider should always stay in view. Also, when I hold my phone vertically, the slider should be on the side I can more accurately scroll.
Thanks!
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I tried to buy it on Google App Store, but it informs me that my Android device for the app is not recognized. My Sony KD-65ZD9 Android TV has been updated to Android 8.0 (Oreo) at the End of January 2019. Is JRiver for Android not supported for Android 8 (Oreo) yet?
Which Android version(s) is/are supported on JRiver for Android?
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I tried to buy it on Google App Store, but it informs me that my Android device for the app is not recognized. My Sony KD-65ZD9 Android TV has been updated to Android 8.0 (Oreo) at the End of January 2019. Is JRiver for Android not supported for Android 8 (Oreo) yet?
Which Android version(s) is/are supported on JRiver for Android?
JRiver for Android is compatible with Android 5.0 and later. However, JRiver for Android is not officially support on Android TV. Support for Android TV will likely come after video playback is implemented.
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JRiver for Android is compatible with Android 5.0 and later. However, JRiver for Android is not officially support on Android TV. Support for Android TV will likely come after video playback is implemented.
I am confused, because I attempted to download and install it based on release information for v24.0.10 of JRiver for Android:
24.0.10 (12/11/2018)
1. NEW: Added support for Android TV devices.
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Initial support, but it's not listed as Android TV compatible, so it's not downloadable from the Play Store on an actual Android TV box. To get it working right now, you'd have to sideload the APK file, which for a paid app isn't easy to obtain so it's much, much easier to wait until it's fully Android TV compatible and in the Play Store on Android TV boxes.
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Awesome Donkey, thanks for your feedback.
Is there any timeline planned for a final version of JRiver for Android TV? In other words, by when can we expect such version?
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Hmmm, like Brad said, likely after video playback support is added. And when that happens is anyone's guess... I suppose when it's done? *shrugs*
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Cant get this to work after recent update. Trying to play audio file on my phone, immediately closes app.
JRiver for Android 24.0.21
Pixel 2 XL Android 9.0
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It's broken. We hope to have it fixed in a few hours. I'm sorry for the problem.
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Cant get this to work after recent update. Trying to play audio file on my phone, immediately closes app.
JRiver for Android 24.0.21
Pixel 2 XL Android 9.0
We just uploaded a new version with a fix for this. It should be available within the next couple of hours.
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It's available now and the fix worked.
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Hi all, I would like to plead with you to make JRiver for Android available for sale from your own servers instead of just the Play Store. I have no problem giving you guys the money. You continue to deserve and earn it. Please give us an alternative to the Play Store!
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The Play Store is the logical distribution method and logical way to update the app as well. It makes little sense to NOT use the Play Store in this case, in my opinion. Not using the Play Store would make everyone's lives more difficult for seemingly no reason at all. Besides, with the app being purchased from the Play Store, removing it now would just be a slap in the face to the customers who paid for the app already.
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Perhaps I could have worded it better. I am asking for an additional method to purchase the software along side the Play Store, not to abandon the Play Store. I can see that many people use the Play Store (and I respect that decision), but many also avoid it it for a wide variety of reasons (privacy, ethical, practical, ideological, etc), despite using the Android OS. Its parent company has not always been a good actor. As always with these topics: if you don't feel it, you probably don't understand.
JRiver has always charted its own path. I love that this company is not one of the "big guys", and it is a primary reason I have been here since pretty much the beginning. I trust that I am not alone in that. I don't want to derail this thread. We can move this to its own thread if necessary, though I don't have much more to say on it.
All I am asking is: I want to be able to use my existing JRiver account to buy this promising software. I will even pay extra. Please, take my money!
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I loaded the JRiver Android app from the Play Store yesterday after loading the new MC25 on my Mac. I can't load anything on my work PC anymore without exceptions from like the CEO so likely MC24 will be my last unless you have one that's browsed based.
I tried the import and most of the time I get no response. It will play a few files I have resident on the device but mainly I access an external HDD with built in WiFi that contains a very large library of music and video. The audio is in FLAC and many are high res (24/96 to 24/192).
I see you'll support DLNA rendering but it didn't appear to allow me to link to my device or the import can't manage that. When will this be available? When will higher res support be available? Primarily that's an ease issue. I don't want to convert to multiple formats.
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The original post here lists "playlists" under Future Plans. I see now I can create a playlist from playing now.... but do future plans include importing MC playlists? …. Hope so!
Not just importing MC Playlists but actually importing the code structure for dynamic playlists. To me, dynamic playlists are the most important feature of MC and what makes it my absolute PC music player of choice. If I could get that same functionality for the songs stored on my phone JRiver for Android would become my must use player on my phone. I'm hoping for future development in this and other areas soon.
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I loaded the JRiver Android app from the Play Store yesterday after loading the new MC25 on my Mac. I can't load anything on my work PC anymore without exceptions from like the CEO so likely MC24 will be my last unless you have one that's browsed based.
I tried the import and most of the time I get no response. It will play a few files I have resident on the device but mainly I access an external HDD with built in WiFi that contains a very large library of music and video. The audio is in FLAC and many are high res (24/96 to 24/192).
I see you'll support DLNA rendering but it didn't appear to allow me to link to my device or the import can't manage that. When will this be available? When will higher res support be available? Primarily that's an ease issue. I don't want to convert to multiple formats.
What version of Android is your phone running? Right now, there seems to be a bug with playing 24-bit files on older versions of Android.
JRiver for Android supports DLNA for playback, but right now, it cannot import files over a network. However, import on JRiver for Android is still a work in progress.
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Not just importing MC Playlists but actually importing the code structure for dynamic playlists. To me, dynamic playlists are the most important feature of MC and what makes it my absolute PC music player of choice. If I could get that same functionality for the songs stored on my phone JRiver for Android would become my must use player on my phone. I'm hoping for future development in this and other areas soon.
This is already possible. In Media Center 25, you have the option to export smartlists. Just right-click on a smartlist and select Export Playlist... Then choose the option "JRiver Smartlist XML". You can transfer the smartlist files to your phone and JRiver for Android will import it if you put it in a folder called "Playlists".
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I've noticed that JRiver for Android isn't importing all the music from my SD card to the library. Looking at what's missing (from what I can tell thus far) it seems to be albums (with folders and metadata) containing [ and ] characters, e.g. [Box], [EP] and [Single] for example are missing. Not sure if this is from the folders being named that or from the metadata.
Just a couple of albums missing in the library from my Pink Floyd folder alone (these are the folder names)...
The Dark Side Of The Moon [Box] (2011 Remastered EMI 5 0999 029431 2 1 Immersion Edition)
The Wall [Box] (2012 Remastered EMI 5099902944029 Immersion Edition)
Wish You Were Here [Box] (2011 Remastered EMI 5 0999 0 29435 2 7 Immersion Edition)
Some other things missing in the library from my Smashing Pumpkins folder...
American Gothic [EP]
Pug [Dennis Flemion Remix] [Promo]
The End Is The Beginning Is The End [Single]
Etc.
The only common denominator between these that are missing from my library in MC for Android? [ and ] is in each folder name (and in the album field in the metadata), and that's probably why.
EDIT: I see it's already known (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,120089.msg830672.html#msg830672). ;)
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I am a huge fan of JRiver Media Centre an have used it for many years. Consequently I have built up a good selection of playlists, rated music and custom tag entries all of which I fully expected to use with JRiver for Android.
• It has no facility to use my playlists, ratings or any other information carefully built up over years of using Media Centre on Windows.
• It only finds my DNLA device intermittently.
• There is no facility to use my NAS as a source.
• There is nothing in the “Help” option.
• I was happy to help develop this and provide feedback but cannot find any way of doing that via the app.
• It is very expensive by APP standards and for what it provides.
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Please use this thread for comments.
Start at the end and read about playlist support.
NAS drives aren't supported. Panel might work for you, but you need MC running as a server.
JRiver for Android is for playback of media located on the Android device itself.
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I am running JRiver for Android 25.0.19, on a Samsung Galaxy S8 running Android 8.0.0. I am getting 5 loud beeps before each track starts. This didn't happen a few versions ago (maybe one version ago?). HAppy to help debug, if there is anything I can do.
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I am running JRiver for Android 25.0.19, on a Samsung Galaxy S8 running Android 8.0.0. I am getting 5 loud beeps before each track starts. This didn't happen a few versions ago (maybe one version ago?). HAppy to help debug, if there is anything I can do.
We'll try something for the next build for this. One thing you can try for now is to go into the application manager on the phone, select the JRiver for Android app and go into the notifications section. There should be an option there to turn off sounds or alerts.
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Thanks - that worked
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I've been looking forward to giving this a try - having tried and discarded many Android music apps... I appreciate it is still in Beta and potentially unstable.
Anyway, when I tried to purchase I got a message from the Play Store saying 'The early access programme is currently full. Space may open up later.'
Is this a Play Store thing or something you control? Is it possible to add some more users?
Many thanks
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Probably the Play Store. We'll check. Thanks for letting us know.
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Hopefully, it will be available again on the Play Store in a few hours.
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Thanks Jim.
Purchased and installed :)
I haven't given it a proper run yet, but one thing that may be worth looking into regarding library import. While I was out yesterday, I was using Gizmo to stream music from my home server to my phone - not something I do often as there is plenty of music on the phone. I was playing a compilation album so all different artists.
Later, when I installed this app and imported the music on the phone (all stored on an SD card), it also imported the entirety of this compilation album despite the files not truly residing on the phone. I'm guessing it has included some data cached by Gizmo?
I only noticed this because the import of these particular files is somewhat incomplete - the tracks appear under the artist rather than 'Various Artists', there is no album in the Albums view, no artwork - all by-the-by really as I presume it is not supposed to import these temporary files?
One other observation (for now :)), in the settings, when using 'Player', there is an option for Audio Device which is set to 'Select one' which seems to imply I need to select one of the options - which are 'Android Oboe [Android Oboe]' and '[Null Output]'. In practice, it doesn't seem to make any difference and even if I select one, next time it says 'Select one' again. On a cosmetic note, I presume the Android Oboe entry is JRiver's engine? If so, it might be nice to display it as such - I daresay most people won't even know what Android Oboe means (I didn't until I googled it ;D)
Thanks again
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I have never been able to play my 24/192 flac music files through my good sound system in my living room because JRiver MC is installed on my office PC. My office is too far away from the living room to string cables between them (if I was a bachelor I probably would have).
You just need a Network/DLNA capable sound system in the living room. Most of them will do it wireless now also ;D
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I'm late to this conversation perhaps - but I'm not really understanding the difference with JR for Android vs. Gizmo which I already use and Panel direct on the Browser, which this app looks a lot like? I'm not sure because I have not purchased it at $A15 does not seem to add much to the equation.
On Panel I know you continue to improve it, but I am not using it yet since it still very laggy. In addition it has (and Gizmo) a couple of quirks which annoy me.
One of them is that in Audio, Recent page where I spend most of my time, all albums are gorped that have the same title. For example I just loaded Joni Mitchell album "Blue" the other day. But on the Recent screen it shows Simply Red Album cover "Blue" which I loaded years ago. when selected then you see both Joni Mitchell and Simply Red album. This is not a rare issue as - how many of us have albums called "Greatest Hits" which keeps coming up to the top with every new one.
Another quirk is that again when selecting an album - if different tracks are published in different years (Date field) it splits them up so I can't play the whole album in one click - only the tracks from that year.
I remain open minded - not really critical of it, just not quite working the way I expect.
Thanks for your efforts team JRiver!
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Gizmo and JRemote are remotes for a JRiver Media Center server running on another device (e.g. another PC or a Raspberry Pi, for example). JRiver for Android on the other hand is a port of JRiver Media Center itself running on an Android device. JRiver for Android uses Panel built-in as a GUI interface, so that's why it looks the same when using Panel as a remote for another device.
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Servers
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Question:
How does one populate the Podcast panel on JRiver Android?
My podcast's tags have a value of "Podcast" for media sub type, album artist, and genre but don't show up there.
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Bonjour,
l'application ne fonctionne pas bien, elle n'arrive pas a aller chercher ma musique, l'application gčle,
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Attendez plus long, SVP. Combien des affiches avez vous/
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I already posted this on a other topic but maybe this is the better place.
I performed handheld sync to my Pixel 3. For Playlist i choosed the standard m3u format.
Now i can see and play the synced music in JRiver for Android. The Playlists are listed in Imported Playlists, but they are empty.
Any suggestions? Thank you!
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I already posted this on a other topic but maybe this is the better place.
I performed handheld sync to my Pixel 3. For Playlist i choosed the standard m3u format.
Now i can see and play the synced music in JRiver for Android. The Playlists are listed in Imported Playlists, but they are empty.
Any suggestions? Thank you!
If you can see the playlists but they're empty, it probably means the file paths in the playlist are wrong and might need to be adjusted. If you can, open up one of the m3u files in a text editor and make sure the file paths are correct.
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Hi,
probably a config issue: the volume sound level as heard in my Bluetooth headsets is sort of capped when playing from jriver android in my phone, normally I need to put it close to Max to hear a reasonable level, while with the preinstalled music app in the phone, or Spotify, I get much higher sound levels. Any suggestion on how to fix?
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JRiver running on iBasso DX220...
Plays back 192khz Flac and 1x DSF file @ 352.8khz bitperfect....
Nice Work.
2x DFF shows as decoding @ 705.6khz but just silence. (DAC has support for 8 x DSD (Octuple DSD or 512DSD)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47991710557_438dd281ed_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7S4xt)JRiver dx220 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7S4xt) by Hilton (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784514@N07/), on Flickr
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Hi,
probably a config issue: the volume sound level as heard in my Bluetooth headsets is sort of capped when playing from jriver android in my phone, normally I need to put it close to Max to hear a reasonable level, while with the preinstalled music app in the phone, or Spotify, I get much higher sound levels. Any suggestion on how to fix?
Make sure the volume in JRiver for Android isn't set really low. You'll need to have the phone in the landscape orientation to see the volume slider on the Playing Now page.
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Make sure the volume in JRiver for Android isn't set really low. You'll need to have the phone in the landscape orientation to see the volume slider on the Playing Now page.
Thanks, issue sorted :)
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Is there any secret to getting SD cards to show up in library search?
My iBasso DX220 works fine with JRiver playing DSD and 192k FLAC which is great, but JRiver isn't picking up my SD card?
I'm happy to help by running any command line tools or get dumps of config files on my device if it helps troubleshoot. (it's rooted with magisk)
PS. Music is stored in root folder called Music on SD Card. Device path = /storage/SDdeviceid/Music
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Is there any secret to getting SD cards to show up in library search?
My iBasso DX220 works fine with JRiver playing DSD and 192k FLAC which is great, but JRiver isn't picking up my SD card?
I'm happy to help by running any command line tools or get dumps of config files on my device if it helps troubleshoot. (it's rooted with magisk)
PS. Music is stored in root folder called Music on SD Card. Device path = /storage/SDdeviceid/Music
If you could, try moving the Music folder into another folder so it's not at the root level. You could create a folder called Media and put it in there if possible. There seems to be an issue importing from folders at the root level.
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I haven't kept up with development. I am wondering if the Android version will work as a Theater View Client yet or if it is even planned? It is still the only feature I want out of the Android version.
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No. Sorry.
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To be clear - Not even planned?
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I can't make any promises. Sorry.
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love JRiver media center, only have one problem , I have a Galaxy S9+ wich I play music in my car thru a dongle to Sound Blaster X-Fi-HD which sounds great, the JRiver app i got does not play thru the usb audio , 2 other apps on my phone play music thru X-Fi-HD, big sound difference playing thru X-Fi-HD compared to headphone out which is the only way to hear JRiver
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Currently I use JRiver MC25 to play music files to my USB DAC for DAC/Preamp/Poweramp listening.
Have used JRiver for several years.
For portable Bluetooth speaker type listening I have been using an app called HiFiCast +DLNA which has provided me a great solution for $3.99.
Only one trouble I have found with it was the search facility when it comes to compilation albums.
So I was wondering if your android version would be worth purchasing but given its cost I thought I would ask first.
I have about 11000 compilation tracks ( out of 63000 tracks ) that usually sit in a folder called say Various Album Compilations ( or whatever folder name is chosen to park these).
To get a proper seach of compilation albums I have had to use mp3tag to add the artist name to the title name
using a tag-tag convert of %title% - %artist% ( the dash is only there for looks ) for all tracks that have a "1" in the compilation tag
This could be because the NAS I use uses Twonky maybe.?
The search using JRiver media centre is fine on a PC coming from the same source with or without adding the %title% - %artist% statement to the NAS files for compilation tracks.
So before I think about buying the JRiver for android I wanted to ask how your android version handles searches as far as compilation albums are concerned?
What is the search looking at? Artist or Album Artist or Title or ?
If Album Artist then its going to have an issue with Compilations I guess as the Album Artis would be Various Album Compilations.
Also what is the difference with the way the MC handles searches for compilation type albums?
Was also thinking of changing my NAS to a Synology to see if a different music server would be of help ie minimserver or asset etc.
While on NAS's ...Synology or QNAP or ?.. also Twonky or Minimserver or Asset...any suggestions on which way to go if I change NAS type?
Although my %title% - %artist% works its an extra step I have to do after ripping and adds to the length of naming.
Also in my country the android version of JRiver is $14.99 so it would be nice for a trial version as I have already wasted a lot of money on apps to see if they work as different music player can / seem to handle things differently from each other...and maybe a even break for those who have been loyal and purchased JRiver MC over the years would be nice :)
Good thing about standards I guess is that there are so many to choose from :)
Thanks
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Have you tried using MC to play to the speaker? Or Panel? You can chose the renderer you want to play to in both.
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I want to use this when I do not have the PC on or when outside etc.
Just want to to use when the playing involves
NAS---> wifi --- >Android Tablet ---> Bluetooth Speakers
Or
Android Tablet ( on board memory ) -----> Bluetooth Speakers
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JRiver for Android plays local files only, at this time. Only the files from the tablet, in your case. The rest would work.
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Thanks...thats a bit dissapointing though.
Happy with JRiver MC so was hoping that the android version would surpass Foobar Mobile or my current player.
Glad I asked before purchasing.
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NAS---> wifi --- >Android Tablet ---> Bluetooth Speakers
Your biggest problem, with that arrangement and in regards to searching compilation albums or any searches, is that you must be running the DLNA Server on your NAS. That will never give you the power searches MC is capable of.
The answer would be to run MC on a small, low powered device for audio, such as the JRiver Id, IdPi, or a NUC running MC. See https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/board,42.0.html
With MC running on the small device, the DLNA server turned off in your NAS, you could use JRemote for Android (I've not used - read reviews {sorry Jim}), or MO 4Media (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,114964.0.html), which I am still using the free version of, and like.
An Id, IdPi, and maybe even a NUC suitable just for audio would be cheaper than a new NAS, in all likelihood.
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Thanks.
As far as searching goes if I combine the title and artist using the tag-tag command..all is good and believe it or not it performs this fast even on a Samsung Tablet using the music app I currently use.
A NUC plus a 4TB HDD ... I cannot get the price down below a 2 Bay Synology with a 4TB HDD..unless I am not shopping in the right place.
I was hoping simply that JRiver for android would do a better function to my current music app, thats all.
If it had of been available a few years ago I probably would not of hunted down a music app that suited my needs albeit with a bit of tweaking for the compilation ideosycrasies.
It would be nice to know how JRiver performs the search functions though :)
Appreciate your thought but I was looking for a solution that does not involve a PC.
Thanks again
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Does a mc25 master licence work, or do I have to pay $9.99 for the android also?
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It's a separate purchase, that's only available on the Google Play Store.
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How well does this work on an Android TV box. I have an A95X 4GB RAM 64GB ROM Amlogic S905X2 Quad Core 64bit Smart TV Box with an internal 500GB hard drive on order. I with have all my ripped CD in APE format. My plan is to use this as a HIFI media player for my living room. Will I be able to navigate with a remote or will I need a mouse? Also will it be possible to view, edit and control this app from a android phone when the HDTV is not on?
I am excited to try this out.
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It doesn't work yet on Android TV. We need to make changes in the navigation.
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I purchased it.... with hope this gets worked out.
In the mean time if I have it installed on my tablet will I be able to use the MC remote app on my phone to control it?
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If you have JRiver for Android running, you can connect to it with any remote that supports MC.
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I tried the latest on my LGE vk410 tablet and it will not play any files. I checked and under Audi Device there is none to select [no output plugins installed]
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I decided to try it out on my Asus Zenpad 3S 10 and had better luck. One request would be to add the ability to select what folder(s) to scan for importing albums. Also it would be nice to have bigger transport buttons when in the screen showing the current track being played.
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Thanks for the feedback. Some flexibility in import folders is planned. On the transport button suggesion, what is the concern? Functionality? Esthetics?
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They are kinda small and way too low on the screen.
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We might be able to adjust the size, but the position needs to be at the bottom of the screen.
I suppose you tried turning the tablet to a horizontal position.
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I tried the latest on my LGE vk410 tablet and it will not play any files. I checked and under Audi Device there is none to select [no output plugins installed]
Can you check which version of Android this tablet is using? It might be outside what JRiver for Android supports. JRiver for Android requires Android 5.0 or later.
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Is JRiver for Android still considered Beta in the Play Store? I'm asking because I have two phones, a personal and a work cell. My work cell uses a different google account, but I've added that google account to my "Family Library" so that I can share apps I've purchased with both phones. I have JRiver added on my personal cell to the Family Library, but when I view the Family Library option on my work cell, I do not see JRiver at all. It's using a different google address though, so I'm wondering if the beta aspect is preventing my other phone from seeing it.
Thanks!
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Is JRiver for Android still considered Beta in the Play Store? I'm asking because I have two phones, a personal and a work cell. My work cell uses a different google account, but I've added that google account to my "Family Library" so that I can share apps I've purchased with both phones. I have JRiver added on my personal cell to the Family Library, but when I view the Family Library option on my work cell, I do not see JRiver at all. It's using a different google address though, so I'm wondering if the beta aspect is preventing my other phone from seeing it.
Thanks!
JRiver for Android has been out of beta for over a month, so I'm not sure if that's the problem.
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JRiver for Android has been out of beta for over a month, so I'm not sure if that's the problem.
It show in my Play Store as "You're a beta tester." I'm going to try leaving that to see if that makes a difference and will update here.
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I did a few things, so not sure which triggered it to work. I left the beta program, and it wasn't updated on my work phone. I then uninstalled and reinstalled, and unchecked Family Library, and re-checked it. Now it shows on my work phone.
So who knows, but at least I got it to show!
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I am using JRiver on Android on my head-unit in the car (Recreation Vehicle). The device is running on an Intel-Processor (Joying, a Chinese supplier) with Android 8.1 and full access to the Google Playstore. I downloaded JRiver (4G-Modem is inside the unit) and installed it. First I am using the build in RAM to store the audiofiles but I ran out of space. So I decided to use a Micro SD-Card (64 GB) and store the files in a folder named "Music". The device has a detachable screen und you can access the slot for the card easily - to install a proper USB Connection needs more efforts in a dashboard. Every new start of JRiver took a while (34 GB files) before you can use Panel to choose your music. This device is the only unit today (except Sony $$$$$) which offers a SPDIF digital out. Within the next weeks I will install my car amplifier with spdif input and built in decoders for Dolby and DTS sourround (Phonocar). Till now I can play stereo flac and multichannel flac (JRiver downmixed to stereo on the fly). MKA files (multichannel Dolby and DTS) and SACD-ISO doesn't work (yet?). What I am missing is to control my head-unit with a phone or my tablet (NEXUS) when sitting in the back of the RV. I can get a connection using the inbuild WiFi of the unit and all the files and covers of the library show up with JRemote or Gizmo on my Nexus. Even I can stop or play an open file with the remote device. Choosing a new file ends with a crash of JRiver on my head-unit. Any ideas ?
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Changed my Android TV. Now my chain is:
Beelink GT-King (Amlogic S922X) -> LH Labs Revive (USB Reclocker) -> LH Labs Geek Pulse Infinity (DAC/Amp) + LPS4 -> Audio Zenith PMx2
External 8TB HDD on USB 3.0 (18K songs)
Comments:
1. It works a little slow showing/displaying the library everytime I go back to the menu (Album, Artist etc.). Will you make remember the folder placement everytime I go back instead going back to the top?
2. Plays DSD256 and DXD without glitch (maybe because I have now a more powerful Android TV)
3. My DAC/Amp display 96Khz all the time. Android driver?
4. Wishing I could have a Folder Option on the menu and access my folders w/in JRiver Android and play my music.
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Just installed JRiver for android on my Xperia XA2 ultra worked fine with import as far as I can see and plays excellently.
One question and two observation.
Question
I think this was asked before by syndromeofadown , How do I get my favourite podcasts into the list?
Observations:
1. I use the device a lot with the headphone jack (both to headphones and stereo) when I pull out the jack while playing it keeps playing just with no sound, I then have to stop the music and restart (doesn't work with pause).
2. to use jriver radio is extremely slow it takes around 25 sec to start and also to stop
Great product guys also using MC25 on PC
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I have just downloaded and installed MC for Android.
It appears Radio Paradise is played back at 192kHz sample rate according to an attached DAC's LED sample rate indicator, as are DSD files. I haven't tried to load any Redbook or other PCM sample rate local files as yet.
Is this app only supporting the Android device's native sample rate? While I see a setting for Audio Device, the USB connected DAC doesn't appear to be one of the choices despite the fact it is outputting sound. The two choices under Audio Device are Android Oboe (shouldn't it be "Oreo"?), and [Null Output].
The device is a Samsung Galaxy Tab A (2017), model number SM-T380, running Android 8.1 Oreo.
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I have just downloaded and installed MC for Android.
It appears Radio Paradise is played back at 192kHz sample rate according to an attached DAC's LED sample rate indicator, as are DSD files. I haven't tried to load any Redbook or other PCM sample rate local files as yet.
Is this app only supporting the Android device's native sample rate? While I see a setting for Audio Device, the USB connected DAC doesn't appear to be one of the choices despite the fact it is outputting sound. The two choices under Audio Device are Android Oboe (shouldn't it be "Oreo"?), and [Null Output].
The device is a Samsung Galaxy Tab A (2017), model number SM-T380, running Android 8.1 Oreo.
The actual audio output plugins are hidden behind a library called Oboe. Oboe handles selecting the audio output plugin and configuration based on what the device is capable of handling. It helps to maintain compatibility with more devices because older Android devices don't support the AAudio output plugin that newer devices support.
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The actual audio output plugins are hidden behind a library called Oboe. Oboe handles selecting the audio output plugin and configuration based on what the device is capable of handling. It helps to maintain compatibility with more devices because older Android devices don't support the AAudio output plugin that newer devices support.
OK, so in the case of a DAC connected via USB, that DAC is playing sound, but only at 192khz sample rate. Is there any way for the DAC to play tracks at their native sample rates?
It would seem under Audio Device that I'd see the DAC and be able to select it but I can't, though again, it does play sound despite that, just at a fixed 192kHz sample rate.
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You know what's cool?
I'm sitting at work and i load up panel on my phone. go to the site and load up IP:52199 in my browser and it loads everything perfectly.
really slick!
The things that android needs are:
* a play all button in each category. (play all music, play all video. + shuffle)
* a way to customize the panel buttons which is something i only recently saw was possible in the desktop version.
* search by type. I search by .mp3 and get the same result but still it would be better not to need to do that.
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Not yet.
What about connection to an external USB DAC via an OTG cable?
I've posted about this already and the silence is deafening. Is this fully supported or planned for support in the future such that the Android audio stack is bypassed and files play at the their native sample rates, rather than forced re-sampling to the Android device's native sample rate as appears to be happening currently?
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I don't know. Have you tried it?
If you can use the DAC with your phone, then JRiver should be able to see it, but it's something I've never tried.
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I don't know. Have you tried it?
If you can use the DAC with your phone, then JRiver should be able to see it, but it's something I've never tried.
Yes, 3 posts back I described it, the DAC isn't recognized in terms of MC listing it as an available Audio Device under that drop down, however the DAC does play sound, but only at the Android device's 192kHz native sample rate. In other words, the Radio Paradise FLAC stream which should be at 44.1 kHz is being re-sampled, and so is everything else including local files on the SD card, they all play back at 192kHz.
This suggests to me that MC for Android has no USB audio driver of it's own, and instead relies on the Android audio stack for any/all connection to a USB DAC, no?
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Sorry if this is a stupid question. My wife wants to have this on her phone, does she need to pay for the app as well or is this licensed for more than one install like MC?
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JRiver for Android is licensed through the Play Store, so their rules apply. You can run it on multiple devices as long as its on the same google account, as far as I remember.
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JRiver for Android is licensed through the Play Store, so their rules apply. You can run it on multiple devices as long as its on the same google account, as far as I remember.
Awesome, thanks for the prompt reply. I think I'll get her to buy her own, if I log into my google account on her phone I'm sure that's going to cause all sorts of issues.
On a separate note: I notice that Cloudplay is a little laggy and buggy thru the android app. Mostly when you bring up a playlist, the first song displays but only every now again can I see all the songs in the playlist to select a specific song. Otherwise I can skip songs but this is extremely laggy.
The sound quality is excellent though and I really like this feature. I'm building some playlists and uploading to cloudplay so as to access from my mobile in the car.
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I've been running the new JRiver for Android update for a week now, and the performance improvements are pretty darn nice - JRiver for Android at this stage is VERY usable for audio.
I only have one little 'issue' though, I notice that cover art for albums seems to be dynamically loaded, and if you switch views (e.g. going from different albums, artists, etc.) eventually JRiver for Android will reload images again, which is pretty annoying. I don't suppose there's a way to build thumbnails AND cache all those thumbnails, so they don't need to be constantly reloaded after switching album/artist views?
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thezone,
We're aware of some places where speed could be improved. We'll get there.
AD,
Same answer. We could do a better job of caching.
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thezone,
We're aware of some places where speed could be improved. We'll get there.
All good. I've played a round a bit more and its actually not that bad as Donkey says, pretty useable.
AD,
Same answer. We could do a better job of caching.
What about an option to turn off album art altogether?
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I downloaded the latest Version on my Pixel 3 with Android 10. The App crashes constantly after start.
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I downloaded the latest Version on my Pixel 3 with Android 10. The App crashes constantly after start.
Do you have a Music folder on your phone?
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I downloaded the latest Version on my Pixel 3 with Android 10. The App crashes constantly after start.
We haven't tested on Android 10 yet. Technically, it's unsupported at the moment.
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JimH wrote: "JRiver for Android plays local files only, at this time."
Does this meanwhile include the files on a SD card too or still only those on the internal memory of the Android device?
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JimH wrote: "JRiver for Android plays local files only, at this time."
Does this meanwhile include the files on a SD card too or still only those on the internal memory of the Android device?
JRiver for Android can import files from secondary SD cards as well. Just make sure to have the files in an appropriately named folder ("Music", "Media", etc.) that isn't at the root level of the card.
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Good to know. And in trying it out I found that meanwhile even one of my favourite ChiFi IEMs is supported: The KZ AS10. On the go this is far more lighter than my current "big" Oppo PM3 (also supported of course).
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What Android version is supported ?
I have a MyGica 1960 on Android 6 , BUT JRiver for Android fails to start , just a blank screen
I was hoping for it as a DLNA Renderer on the MyGica
Any Ideas
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Mike that might be because jriver is scanning your storage.
I thought the same thing on one of my older tablets but it was actually just running an import.
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There is no local content ?
I assume I can point it at the MC Server instance on my Main PC and us it as as a Renderer
Have I got it all wrong (as usual) ?
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JRiver for Android plays only local media at this time. It must be located in the Music folder on the device.
It can't load a remote library yet.
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Hi Jim
Am I right in assuming that it will be able to act as a render when finished
I am particularly interested in stream video from my MC Server to an Android TV (MyGica) , currently it came pre-configured for Kodi which I am not too keen on
Meanwhile I'll try in on my "Gym Phone" which has local content
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As far as I know, those "Android TV" boxes aren't actually running legit Android TV OS. They seem to all run normal Android with a TV-esk type of launcher and I would know, I actually own a couple of these boxes. The reason I mention this is, once JRiver for Android supports Android TV, it'll likely only work for legit Android TV boxes, not those "Android TV" boxes you can buy on Amazon, eBay, AliExpress, etc. that don't actually run Android TV's OS.
There's only a handful of legit Android TV boxes. The Nvidia Shield TV is one, along with the Xiaomi Mi Box - and JRiver, as far as I know, has only tested their work-in-progress Android TV support on the Nvidia Shield TV, so there's a chance it may not work correctly on the Mi Box yet. MyGica which you mentioned has at least one legit Android TV box, the ATV-495Max. If you have that box, it might work. It doesn't look like any of the other MyGica boxes run legit Android TV OS though (https://www.mygica.com/products/android-tv-box/).
Personally, I'd say if you're not using a legit Android TV box running legit Android TV OS, Android TV support in JRiver for Android may not/likely will not work.
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It works as a renderer now. You can play to it from another machine.
Awesome Donkey's description is correct.
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seems like a dead waste of $10 !!
the MyGica is the 1960
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Is this designed for Android or Android TV
The Mygica has Android 7,1
It seems to run Play Store apps ok , eg Kodi and the Netflix app
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It'll work on Android (and it'll look like JRiver for Android does running Panel), but if you have an official Android TV it can gain additional features like a new UI perhaps.
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We haven't tested on Android 10 yet. Technically, it's unsupported at the moment.
FYI - I'm getting immediate crashes on android 10 as well.
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I have loaded to my phone which has music files, I see Panel but don’t seem to be able to play to the device
I see all network streamer devices
Still playing with it
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I cant seem to find JRiver for Android in my search of the google play store on my shield TV?
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I cant seem to find JRiver for Android in my search of the google play store on my shield TV?
You wont (yet). More works needs to be done to have it marked as "Android TV" compatible.
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I tried out the app today after not trying it out for a couple of months, but I'm getting audio files listed that are no longer on the SD card (I'm retagging a good chunk of my non-classical at the moment, so a lot of files are being updated and/or deleted). I tried "Clear Library," but nothing seems to be happening, nor does "Run Auto Import" get rid of these non-existant files. Any way around this, or should I try reinstalling the app each time I make changes?
Using a Galaxy Note 9 with, as said above, an SD card to store all the music.
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Double check. They may be there.
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They're not.
For example, I have Black Sabbath's album, Vol. 4. Under that album listing, there are duplicates for all the tracks: one set with cover art (these play and are the only ones I want to show up) and another set with no cover art which don't play. I changed the particular files on this album (moved from a 16/44 version to a 24/96), and did this for a number of albums (should have been clearer on this in the previous post), but I don't want those deleted tracks showing up. But how? They're deleted from the device (they don't show up in PowerAmp, for example, and they're not in my Windows 10 PC's handheld folder, which I sync from). It's like the entries still exist in Android MC, but not the files, and I want those entries out of there.
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Did you search both internal and external media?
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Yes, I checked both on my phone: I can't find those entries with no tracks anywhere in external or internal storage, or at least not in the Music folders.
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Yes, I checked both on my phone: I can't find those entries with no tracks anywhere in external or internal storage, or at least not in the Music folders.
If you're able to play the file, the playing now page should give you the file location. Just tap the cover art image.
If the file is still in the library but it really is gone from the device, there are a couple of options. The clear library function is kind of experimental, but there is another option. If you go into the device's application settings for JRiver for Android, there is usually a Storage option with a clear data button. That will wipe out the library. Otherwise, you can select a file in the JRiver for Android, and there should be an option to remove it from the library.
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I was able to clear the library using the Storage->Clear Data function. Now I'm re-importanting. Hopefully the Clear Library thing works at some point!
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I am having the same problems with the app crashing on Android 10. Since Android 10 is not currently supported, is there a work around? I am soon to take a 14 hour flight, and would like to listen to my tunes. Do I need to download another player to be able to do this?
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I am having the same problems with the app crashing on Android 10. Since Android 10 is not currently supported, is there a work around? I am soon to take a 14 hour flight, and would like to listen to my tunes. Do I need to download another player to be able to do this?
We're not sure yet. We'll look at it soon. It seems to work on some Android 10 phones and not on others.
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Does this app bypass the Android audio engine so it can take advantage of the dac on the lg v50? Also, I've seen complaints about playlists not playing correctly when imported from the desktop version. Is that fixed? Sorry if this has been answered already.
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I bought JRiver for Android specifically to play music files on the phone (Android 8.1.0) because I didn't want to use Google Play. I have JRiver on my PCs / home network so why would I want to use something that isn't JRiver? </rhetorical>. I also occasionally use it to watch videos converted/transferred by JRiver to the phone. Apart from an aspect ratio stretch, it's fine (not enough to worry about delving into a fix :) ). So I'm happy with it for its primary purpose. Some things make it crash (Radio buttons etc) but I'm happy to await further dev for stuff I don't usually use.
One thing is that I can't see (from the phone) my other JRiver Library servers (on PCs on the home network) or either of the 2 NAS devices. My 3 PCs can see each other's JRiver Library servers and both NAS (and the JRiver server on the phone). I read on this thread that recently people can see the NAS on their network. Is this some setting I've missed? What should I have to do to see the other JRiver Libraries / NAS devices on my phone?
I don't mind if this is still a work in development so would stop obsessing about it and test occasionally after new updates :) - but it would help to know where I should look for it and/or if it should be working right now.
Many thanks.
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While you can load a library via a server running MC (Raspberry Pi in my case), it doesn't actually work and it causes a lockup issue. So I think the latest version (25.0.120) is currently broken in that regard but it likely won't be fixed until next week because of the holiday weekend.
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Thanks for the reply.
While you can load a library via a server running MC
How?
it doesn't actually work and it causes a lockup issue. So I think the latest version (25.0.120) is currently broken in that regard but it likely won't be fixed until next week because of the holiday weekend.
Not a problem - happy to wait. But would be good to know how it should work so I can check whether it does or not.
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How?
Just open the Options via the cog icon in the top right of JRiver for Android, and select "Load Library", pick one, and Confirm.
But if you do that on 25.0.120 you will probably need to reboot your Android device to get JRiver for Android working again. This feature is broken.
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Just open the Options via the cog icon in the top right of JRiver for Android, and select "Load Library", pick one, and Confirm.
Thanks for your response. I tapped the cog and don't see "Options" or anywhere that offers "Load Library". I'm running JRiver for Android 25.0.119 64-bit. No updates available according to Google Play store.
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It's not available in 25.0.119, just 25.0.120 and above (hopefully 25.0.120 was pulled due to the issue)... but like we said, it currently doesn't work, so wait for the next version.
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It's not available in 25.0.119, just 25.0.120 and above (hopefully 25.0.120 was pulled due to the issue)... but like we said, it currently doesn't work, so wait for the next version.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the info. Happy to wait and I'll try again when I see an update.
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It's actually still available, but only to people who signed up for the beta. If you're having trouble with the latest version, one thing you could try is clearing the app data for JRiver for Android from the phone's settings. This should wipe out the library and force it to rebuild.
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So, I use MC as my main Windows media player. What I really want is to have MC on my Nvidia Shield TV play my SACD ISOs into my 5.1 receiver. Is this/will this be possible? I've never actually managed to hear my SACD files on my surround system in 5.1.
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JRiver for Android still doesn't seem to be able to find Playlists synced to my Sony Xperia XZ Premium Android 9 phone.
This post from August 2019 does not seem to be correct: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,118031.msg841783.html#msg841783
The response is though. Only 'Recently Imported' 'Recently Played' and 'Top Hits' Playlists are visible in JRiver for Android.
I couldn't find any update on that situation.
The music on my Sony is in "\disk\Music\" and Playlists are being synced to "\disk\Playlists\", as seen in Windows Explorer with the phone connected via USB. I've tried m3u, m3u8, and mpl format Playlists. I've tried editing the Playlist to use different path formats, forcing Relative Paths, absolute paths. I've moved the Playlist to the root "\disk\Music\" directory. I've run Auto Import many times. I've cleared both the cache and data for the App. I've put a copy of the Playlist into the internal storage at "\Internal shared storage\Playlists\", with paths pointing to the music on the SD Card at "\disk\Music\(Multiple Artists)\The Matrix\01 - Rock Is Dead.flac" for example.
Nothing works. Very disappointing.
Also, I hate that JRiver for Android imports all the images on my phone. I don't want JR4A to do that. Give me some control over what Auto Import does please.
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When I play videos in JRiver for Android 25.0.119 on my phone, the signal strength, network, battery icon and clock remain in a grey bar across the top. I think this puts the aspect ratio off slightly. In comparison, when using files to play or a TV app like BBC iPlayer, the signal etc icons are white out of the picture (no bar) and after a short while go up off the screen. Are there any plans for this in JRiver for Android? The aspect ratio is slightly disconcerting and the grey bar detracts a bit.
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As you've found, DLNA is only partially working at this point. You can play from the phone to any DLNA Renderer, but you can't yet play from another DLNA device to the phone. We should be able to get this going soon.
My JRiver on a Sony phone on Android 9 doesnt see any DLNA renderer, not the jriver instances nor the DLNA speakers. Quite disappointing as being able to take advantage of better speakers around would be what is useful. Any suggestions what could be wrong?
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My JRiver on a Sony phone on Android 9 doesnt see any DLNA renderer, not the jriver instances nor the DLNA speakers. Quite disappointing as being able to take advantage of better speakers around would be what is useful. Any suggestions what could be wrong?
How long was the app running before trying to change zones? Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes before populating the list.
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I have been playing with this for a few days on my Android Shield (old model). I am able to connect to my Library Server running on a Windows machine. It all works, including playlists and CloudPlay. I am thrilled, since I have been waiting a long time for this. I have had a few crashes, but that seems to when navigating, not during playback and I haven't been able to reproduce. I have a few questions:
1) I am not getting any cover art. So I am staring at a blank screen with transport buttons. Is this as expected at this point or down the road or is there a setting I'm missing somewhere for that?
2) How can I tell if I'm getting full bandwidth (ie. FLAC)? Is there some sort of info I can look at on the client or server side?
That's all for now. Keep up the good work!
Chris
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Thanks. Cover art was disabled in the last build to get Android TV working. It should be back in the next build.
There is no way at present to look at file details, as far as I know.
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Split Amazon Fire TV (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123571.0.html)
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My Android phone has now been updated to JRiver for Android 26.0.16 64-bit. It can (while on local network) load local libraries and play them to other renderers on the network. Outstanding work, people, thanks.
I note that:
- control (pause/play etc) then passes to the renderer - that is, the device I asked the phone to play to (as opposed to JRiver on the Android phone)
- I can even power-off the phone but the album still plays.
I hope this is the desired behaviour. I would describe it as MC on the phone "tells" the server to send the selected content to the renderer and then has no further involvement. The server and renderer just do their stuff. Happy to learn more / be corrected. :)
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- control (pause/play etc) then passes to the renderer - that is, the device I asked the phone to play to (as opposed to JRiver on the Android phone)
I just ran JRiver for Android on my phone (DLNA Controller), connected to the MC Server on my Workstation (DLNA Server), and played a FLAC file to my TV (DLNA Renderer). I retained full control of Play/Pause and Volume from the phone, controlling the TV, even after the phone screen went to sleep. If you lost control of the Renderer either the Controller lost connection to the Renderer, or your Renderer isn't behaving as it should.
My phone is a Sony Xperia XZ Premium phone running Android 9.
My TV is a Sony KD-65X9300D
My Workstation is a Windows 10 PC running version 1903
- I can even power-off the phone but the album still plays.
I hope this is the desired behaviour. I would describe it as MC on the phone "tells" the server to send the selected content to the renderer and then has no further involvement. The server and renderer just do their stuff. Happy to learn more / be corrected. :)
You are correct. As long as the Controller tells the Server to send the full track list, or actually I think it is Renderer that is told to ask for the full list from the Server. I forget which way around it is. AndrewFG has explained it previously.
Although what happens depends on your equipment a bit. I just closed JRiver for Android (both the main window and the notification) while it was playing to the TV as above, and my TV rebooted! I don't think it liked losing its DLNA Controller. But when I got it playing again and shutdown the phone, the TV kept playing just fine, as you noted.
Of course, if you power down the phone it will lose control of the Server/Renderer, so when it powers up again it won't be able to act as a Controller for the current tracks. I tried that and when the Phone connected to the Workstation Library again, playback stopped on the TV. So you just need to be aware of those sorts of issues.
With this release I noticed WOL worked from JRiver for Android to my HTPC MC Server. Nice.
I also noticed that Playing Now in JRiver for Android didn't update which track was playing on the TV in the above scenario. It just kept the first track highlighted. I could select any track in the list and jump to playing that though.
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@RoderickGI,
Many thanks for your explanations. I'll do some more testing. My renderer is a Humax STB (FVP-5000T) but my TV is a Sony Bravia so I might give that a try when time permits and I'm not disturbing my better 0.5. My phone is a Ulefone X (China generic Android running Android 8.1.0) and my Media Server PC is an Asus VivoPC running Windows Home 1909.
That said, since the Humax will allow me to pause / play using its remote, I'm happy with the current behaviour.
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My status report on JRiver Android as of of today January 6, 2020.
I have JRiver Android installed on two devices;
1st. Samsung S8 running Android 9 with firmware 26.0.16 64bit
I see several libraries. One from my NAS (DLHA) and the JRiver library on my HTPC. When I choose the NAS all my music albums are there and I can play them.
As for the pictures, I only see those from the camera not from the NAS however the pictures are tiny and you can't enlarge them.
Also for video only the camera video's are visible. When I select a video I hear the sound but don't see the video. I am not able to stop the playing video. Only by stopping JRiver altogether.
Most important, my playlists are not present.
When I select the JRiver library on my HTPC (which get its media from my NAS)not only is all my music there but also my playlists and I can play them on my phone. My whole picture collection is present and I can view them but they are still tiny. Not much use. My video collection is visible and playable as it turns out. I can view the movies, home video's and so on and with decent sound. I can pause the video but not stop.
2nd. I was able to install JRiver Android 26.0.16 32bit on my Sony KD65ZF9. Suddenly it was available for download in the Google Play store. I use the Library server from my HTPC (media from NAS). My music is there and I can play it. My playlists are there but I can't play them. Only thing I see when selected is the van Gogh background and the name of the playlist but no songs or sounds.
I see the pictures, thumbnails and even names but viewing them enlarged doesn't work. I only get a grey screen.
Some videos are there, not my movies, but none of them will play. They are all regular mp4 (264) nothing fancy.
I thought Kodi was an alternative for JRiver but after trying out I removed it from the TV. It is OK for video and pictures but lousy for music.
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Hello,
I understood that the Studio DSP feature is not yet ported over Android. Is there any plan to do this, specially the convolution filter and the equalizer ?
With this feature, it becomes possible to create a high end very cheap audio system:
1. Android device + JRiver App (with convolution filter correcting room/speaker level and phase)
2. Simple Class D amp like FX audio D802 (100US$) - connection via USB or wireless
3. Speakers. Because of the infinite possibility of correction with the convolution filter, these could be one-channel boxes with high end wide band speakers like Visaton B200 (250US$ for both speakers)
NB: this works only if you can measure the acoustics of the room (+30US$ for a measurement mic ECM8000, free software) and get the convolution filter profile.
Thanks,
JF
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Finally getting around to using this app on Pixel 2 XL running Android 10.
Having a few issues I could use help with, or told it isn't possible yet ;D
MC 26.0.20 Windows running on Windows 10 desktop. Media server feature running with a login that has write access. I've used this for years with JRemote android app and MC Windows on other client PCs. Can connect fine and listen to songs, and change the rating field on songs, so server side setup is confirmed good.
1) ratings stars are only visible in landscape mode in the android app.
2) click on rating star 3. selected third star outlines in amber for a few seconds, then later stars 1 and 2 fill in white and 3 fills in amber. I'd assume this is confirmation that the remote library received and completed the command to alter the rating field value. Looking at the library on the PC, the rating stars don't show up until minutes later. At least they eventually save the value.
3) If Pixel is connected to wifi on local network, In JRiver app on Android, I can click on gear > load library. It shows main local library on the Pixel, and also the library server on the windows PC mentioned above. I can load the library server and play songs to the Pixel's speaker.
However, if I'm away from my local network, it won't show up and I don't see any way to manually add and connect to it by entering the access key. Port 52199 is forwarded through my router to the Windows PC and I can definitely connect to it from a remote Windows PC over the internet.
4) Music files and playlists on the Pixel got there by syncing over USB from the main MC library on Windows PC. Songs are in /storage/emulated/0/music/artist/album/song.mp3 and Playlist files are in /storage/emulated/0/Playlists/list.m3u. There are 3 m3u files in the playlist folder total. Google Play Music app can see the 3 playlists and plays them fine. JRiver android app only sees a 'recently imported' playlist.
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I just updated to 26.0.21. Video playback has worked on each file I have tried so far, so that's a great improvement.
I do have a few files that aren't playing any audio with the video though. Video with AC3 or DTS audio isn't playing on my phone. AAC does. Is that expected?
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I just updated to 26.0.21. Video playback has worked on each file I have tried so far, so that's a great improvement.
I do have a few files that aren't playing any audio with the video though. Video with AC3 or DTS audio isn't playing on my phone. AAC does. Is that expected?
For now, yes. ExoPlayer uses Android's decoders. Android doesn't have decoders for AC3 or DTS. We will probably enable them later by using FFmpeg extensions.
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For now, yes. ExoPlayer uses Android's decoders. Android doesn't have decoders for AC3 or DTS. We will probably enable them later by using FFmpeg extensions.
Got it. Thanks! I'll try to remember to test on my Shield this afternoon.
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I updated to .21 on my Shield. After this happened, the app icon was set to the default Android icon, not the MC logo. Opening the app took a long time, but did eventually open.
I was able to play back videos with ac3 audio. A few things I noticed:
- When I first launched a video, the play controls stayed on the screen until I hit the back button. They should vanish after a few seconds.
- The rwd/ fwd buttons don't work (I assume this is a yet thing)
- On the phone, there's a progress bar that I could tap on to move forward. Will something like this be implemented on Android TV, so I can use the right arrow d-pad control to move on the progress bar?
- I played a show, and just let the video finish. I then walked to the kitchen. After a bit of time, the video just started playing over again.
- The video that I played wasn't marked as watched when I looked at my library server. I'm looking at the Date Last Opened field.
- If I pause the video, when I start it back, there's no sound for about a second. I'm pretty sure this has something to do with my stereo because the same thing happens with Netflix - but not the YouTubeTV app. I'm guessing YTTV keeps the audio alive with no sound.
#2 and #5 did work on the phone, but I would expect Last Played to be set and it wasn't.
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Not having any luck at all playing videos on my Shield running .21. I can navigate my collection of TV Shows and Movies, yet when I try to play, nothing happens, I just get a blank screen with the transport buttons. I can pause and play, but again, just a blank screen. I haven't tried everything I have, but in general my content is x.265 and x.264 in MKV containers with DD, AAC or DTS audio. Have rebooted the Shield. Music plays fine. Not sure how to proceed....
On my new phone LG G8, I get more or less the same symptoms with .21. However, I do hear audio on one of my AAC soundtrack movies, but no video and the transport buttons don't do anything. I can't stop it for example.
P.S. I don't really care about video with this app, but am happy to test. But I have a great interest in seeing the audio side of things improve.
Chris
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Sorry for posting but other work has me burned out on searching and I'm hoping to get a clear answer.
I have MC on my Nvidia Shield and MC server on Windows HTPC. I cannot get the Shield to connect to the HTPC.
I have tried uninstalling MC from the Shield and reinstalling. It is on the latest version
I have upgraded from MC 25 to 26 on the HTPC. That is on the latest version too.
When connecting to the HTPC's library I enter my my user name and password. I get the spinning circle then it goes back to the main MC screen but no library is loaded. As I type this I remember reading about authorization problems or something like that. Is that what I'm experiencing?
I can see the Shield server when I look at the available libraries in the HTPC. I can also connect to the HTPC from other computers.
Thanks
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Sorry for posting but other work has me burned out on searching and I'm hoping to get a clear answer.
I have MC on my Nvidia Shield and MC server on Windows HTPC. I cannot get the Shield to connect to the HTPC.
I have tried uninstalling MC from the Shield and reinstalling. It is on the latest version
I have upgraded from MC 25 to 26 on the HTPC. That is on the latest version too.
When connecting to the HTPC's library I enter my my user name and password. I get the spinning circle then it goes back to the main MC screen but no library is loaded. As I type this I remember reading about authorization problems or something like that. Is that what I'm experiencing?
I can see the Shield server when I look at the available libraries in the HTPC. I can also connect to the HTPC from other computers.
Thanks
The first thing to check is that it loaded the correct library. Go back into the load library activity and check to see if it shows the correct library is loaded. It will have an icon in front of the currently loaded library. If you don't see an icon in front of any library server in the list, it probably loaded a DLNA library. If this is the case, try loading the correct library again.
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Having the same issue as dcpete with most of my video files (h.264 [blu-ray] in mkv containers mostly with flac audio). I did get one dvd rip to play, but like hoyt said, no audio (didn't check the codec, but it's probably one of the ones exoplayer doesn't decode (does it not decode flac either?).
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The first thing to check is that it loaded the correct library. Go back into the load library activity and check to see if it shows the correct library is loaded. It will have an icon in front of the currently loaded library. If you don't see an icon in front of any library server in the list, it probably loaded a DLNA library. If this is the case, try loading the correct library again.
How can I tell which library I'm loading is a DLNA? All libraries show up with the computer's name. The library I tried to load required my MC server's username and pw. I have never seen the icon in front of the library server.
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I now know what the icon is you were talking about. The library is not loading.
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I now know what the icon is you were talking about. The library is not loading.
I couldn't load my HTPC Library immediately after the update. But today it loaded first try. I have no idea why. In the past I have had to Clear Data in the App to get a Library to load, but not this time.
For the future reference of others, the icon is shown against the loaded Library when you navigate back into the "Load Library" function, as per the attached image.
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Not having any luck at all playing videos on my Shield running .21. I can navigate my collection of TV Shows and Movies, yet when I try to play, nothing happens, I just get a blank screen with the transport buttons. I can pause and play, but again, just a blank screen. I haven't tried everything I have, but in general my content is x.265 and x.264 in MKV containers with DD, AAC or DTS audio. Have rebooted the Shield. Music plays fine. Not sure how to proceed....
Chris
I have a similar behaviour, can load and navigate my MC library but videos do not play only music.
Video: Most thumbnails have not come across only the titles of shows, home videos and images which appear to load but do not play as above. Movies have not come across at all, when I go into Movies it shows the blank Monet picture.
Music: All music plays as 2ch PCM 48/24 (as reported by my pre-amp), even 5.1 pcm files play as 2 ch pcm.
Question: I have a lot of protected iso files mostly BD and some UHDBD which on the HTPC requires, mounting in VCD and ANYDVD to be running before MC will play, how will these play through the Shield? Or will I have to convert all my iso's to mkv?
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Hello,
(Sorry if this has been answered before, but I just spent an hour reading posts but could not find the answer...)
I purchased JRiver on Android many months ago but so far the program still cannot find my playlists (.m3u), while other programs find them automatically.
What format of playlist must be used? I just use .m3U playlists as it was the default in MC26's sync to device feature.
In what folder should the playlists be copied to in order for JRiver on Android to find them? My playlists are located on the micro SD card in the music\playlist folder (which MC26 created during the sync).
Thanks.
Michel.
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Great news: the first time I installed JRiver for Android during summer last year - my audiofiles (seperate SD-Card) are loaded and I can play them. The behavior was very sluggish. The next update broke the possibility to find those files. I tried every update but no luck. Three days ago after the update to the latest version the files are loading again and can be played without issues. The programm is quick (About 1500 tracks) and scrolling is ok (10 Inch Display, Android 8.1 Head-Unit with Intel processor). Thank you for your work - i will stay with JRiver! Now I am waiting for the next step: controlling the Media-Server by my Android phone with Gizmo.
Tomorrow I will receive an Android-stick (Same model as the new dev-kit ADT-3 with HDMI 2.1). The most important task of this device will be showing slideshows from my pictures with JRiver for Android-TV on my OLED from LG (soon calibrated). I like to have HEIF-support (16 bit) with your app and color management reading the ICC-profiles of those files…
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Now I am waiting for the next step: controlling the Media-Server by my Android phone with Gizmo.
This should work now. Any MC remote should be able to connect to JRiver for Android.
Instead of an Access Key, enter the IP address. Here's an example:
192.168.0.50:52199
You could also do it from a browser with Panel.
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Hello,
(Sorry if this has been answered before, but I just spent an hour reading posts but could not find the answer...)
I purchased JRiver on Android many months ago but so far the program still cannot find my playlists (.m3u), while other programs find them automatically.
What format of playlist must be used? I just use .m3U playlists as it was the default in MC26's sync to device feature.
In what folder should the playlists be copied to in order for JRiver on Android to find them? My playlists are located on the micro SD card in the music\playlist folder (which MC26 created during the sync).
Thanks.
Michel.
Bump... :)
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Hello,
(Sorry if this has been answered before, but I just spent an hour reading posts but could not find the answer...)
I purchased JRiver on Android many months ago but so far the program still cannot find my playlists (.m3u), while other programs find them automatically.
What format of playlist must be used? I just use .m3U playlists as it was the default in MC26's sync to device feature.
In what folder should the playlists be copied to in order for JRiver on Android to find them? My playlists are located on the micro SD card in the music\playlist folder (which MC26 created during the sync).
Thanks.
Michel.
The folder your playlists are in should be fine, and it should be able to import mpl, m3u, m3u8, and jsxml. I did a test this morning with m3u playlists in: <internal storage>/Music/Playlists and <secondary storage>/Media/Playlists. It was able to import the m3u file from both locations.
It might take a few minutes to find the playlists. When it imports them, they will show up under Imported Playlists in the Playlists section.
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The folder your playlists are in should be fine, and it should be able to import mpl, m3u, m3u8, and jsxml. I did a test this morning with m3u playlists in: <internal storage>/Music/Playlists and <secondary storage>/Media/Playlists. It was able to import the m3u file from both locations.
It might take a few minutes to find the playlists. When it imports them, they will show up under Imported Playlists in the Playlists section.
Thanks for the reply Brad.
Should the playlists be stored in <secondary storage>/Media/Playlists or <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists?
I don't have a "Media" folder on my microSD card, but I could create one.
I presently have my playlists in <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists.
Or does JRiver on Android care which folder the play lists are located in?
I just ran another "run auto import" and it still does not find my playlists. Note that all the music is accessible directly but using playlists (since they are not found by JRiver on Android.
Thanks.
Michel.
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Running .22 now. The good news is everything I try on my LG G8 running Android 10 seems to work! Nice job! I haven't tested everything, but video and music are both navigable and play. I've only tested a small sample size of my videos though, so can't yet comment on the full range. Music seems fine too and covers show up...all good.
The bad news is nothing plays on my Shield. The panel shows up and I can navigate. I can seemingly load the library. It shows me the correct library (lives on a Windows box running 25) and it says it loads successfully. But when I try to navigate to music or video, no content shows up. I've gone into settings and cleared the data for this app, but I still get the same result.
So in conclusion
Android 10 on my LG G8....Good
Nvidia Shield....Not good
Update: Just noticed .23 was just dropped. I am getting the same results with .23
Thanks, Chris
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Running .22 now. The good news is everything I try on my LG G8 running Android 10 seems to work! Nice job! I haven't tested everything, but video and music are both navigable and play. I've only tested a small sample size of my videos though, so can't yet comment on the full range. Music seems fine too and covers show up...all good.
The bad news is nothing plays on my Shield. The panel shows up and I can navigate. I can seemingly load the library. It shows me the correct library (lives on a Windows box running 25) and it says it loads successfully. But when I try to navigate to music or video, no content shows up. I've gone into settings and cleared the data for this app, but I still get the same result.
So in conclusion
Android 10 on my LG G8....Good
Nvidia Shield....Not good
Update: Just noticed .23 was just dropped. I am getting the same results with .23
Thanks, Chris
If you don't see the files from the library server after it says it successfully loaded the library, try going back into the load library option. It will show you which library is actually loaded by displaying an icon in front of it. Make sure that it is showing the correct library is loaded. If you don't see an icon in front of the library it should have loaded, try loading it again.
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I see the icon, the correct library is loaded. Works on my phone, doesn't work on my Shield.
Thanks, Chris
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Can you try MC26 on your server?
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I see the icon, the correct library is loaded. Works on my phone, doesn't work on my Shield.
Thanks, Chris
Have you tried using the back button until you get out of the app and back to the Shield home screen, and then going back into the app?
Is it both music and videos that are missing? If just videos are missing, try the Disk category under Videos.
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Thanks for the reply Brad.
Should the playlists be stored in <secondary storage>/Media/Playlists or <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists?
I don't have a "Media" folder on my microSD card, but I could create one.
I presently have my playlists in <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists.
Or does JRiver on Android care which folder the play lists are located in?
I just ran another "run auto import" and it still does not find my playlists. Note that all the music is accessible directly but using playlists (since they are not found by JRiver on Android.
Thanks.
Michel.
After doing some testing, it looks like it's not importing from <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists. I wouldn't advise moving the playlists because this will probably break them if they're using relative paths. We will try to have a solution soon.
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After doing some testing, it looks like it's not importing from <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists. I wouldn't advise moving the playlists because this will probably break them if they're using relative paths. We will try to have a solution soon.
Thanks Brad!
Michel.
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Can you try MC26 on your server?
I get similar results with MC26.
Have you tried using the back button until you get out of the app and back to the Shield home screen, and then going back into the app?
Is it both music and videos that are missing? If just videos are missing, try the Disk category under Videos.
Yes, I have tried that. Sometimes "Disk" button doesn't show up under Videos, but when it does, I get nothing.
I think there is some caching problem is my guess. I have so much content that I have a separate databases for Music, TV Shows and Movies (3 different). So when I want to listen to music, I switch to the music database, TV Shows - the TV database, Movies - the Movie database. They all show up under the same name under JRiver for Android (ie. "DCP-Desktop (Library Server)" ). I did get music working once after stopping the app, clearing the data from Shield/App screen and was able to navigate and play music. But when I change to my TV database and re-load, I get nothing. Even when I reboot the Shield, clear data and re-load, I get nothing for Video. It acts like reloading the library does NOT clean out what was there before. But in addition the music is gone from the last load, so it does seem to clear out parts of the library.
Navigating into the "Disk" button when present also shows nothing, just a blank screen even after waiting for 10-15 minutes. A couple of releases ago I was able to navigate through the "Disk" button, even though nothing showed up under "Shows" or "Movies" Then I had some playback issues as previously reported. But now I can't get to my video's on MC25 or MC26 and it seems intermittent that I get music to show up. I have always seen my server fine on the "Load Library" button and it says it loaded it, but again, when I actually try to browse, I see nothing.
Hope this helps. I would investigate the area surrounding loading of libraries and/or caching for this bug. It seems to be related.
Also, I was about to say this appears to be a Shield problem only, but I just reproduced the same behavior on my Android Phone (LG G8), where it doesn't seem to be clearing out or loading the library correctly, even after stopping and clearing out the data for the app.
Thanks, Chris
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I have a similar behaviour, can load and navigate my MC library but videos do not play only music.
Video: Most thumbnails have not come across only the titles of shows, home videos and images which appear to load but do not play as above. Movies have not come across at all, when I go into Movies it shows the blank Monet picture.
Music: All music plays as 2ch PCM 48/24 (as reported by my pre-amp), even 5.1 pcm files play as 2 ch pcm.
Question: I have a lot of protected iso files mostly BD and some UHDBD which on the HTPC requires, mounting in VCD and ANYDVD to be running before MC will play, how will these play through the Shield? Or will I have to convert all my iso's to mkv?
There was a bug with video playback on some loaded library servers. Try version 26.0.26, which should be available this evening.
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@Jim : Got it working - it was a problem getting connected to my Android Hotspot. Using my Nexus Tablet with Gizmo or JRemote it was working without problems. Thank you for your help.
I am still hoping to get HEIF/HEIC-files supported: smaller files and 10/12/14 or 16 bit Depth. Android 9 and Windows 10 with the extensions are already able to show Images in that Format (but I think it is only 8 bit). A couple of thousands of TIFF Images are waiing to get converted to HEIF. Is a slideshow in JRiver aware of ICC-profiles ? Thank you for getting Android (TV) stable and at a acceptable working-speed.
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There was a bug with video playback on some loaded library servers. Try version 26.0.26, which should be available this evening.
Thanks Brad, Looks like 26.0.26 has fixed some things. I can now play some video shows ( I only managed a 1080P mkv file) and 5.1 is working but not all video formats will play and movies still do not appear at all. I think this could be related to the 'Movie' media sub type not coming across as some of the 'Shows' playing are similar file types to ones I have in "Movie' sub type.
My "Movies" are a combo of video files and iso's, sill not sure how the iso's will be handled?
There are also no thumbnails just blank boxes with titles underneath.
Video playback PQ is not particularly impressive, the 1080P mkv I played through the Shield did not seem as vibrant or dynamic as when played on the HTPC with madVr upscaling.
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Thanks for the reply Brad.
Should the playlists be stored in <secondary storage>/Media/Playlists or <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists?
I don't have a "Media" folder on my microSD card, but I could create one.
I presently have my playlists in <secondary storage>/Music/Playlists.
Or does JRiver on Android care which folder the play lists are located in?
I just ran another "run auto import" and it still does not find my playlists. Note that all the music is accessible directly but using playlists (since they are not found by JRiver on Android.
Thanks.
Michel.
You should be able to import the playlists using the Import Folder option in the main menu.
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I am running a https://www.zorloo.com/ztella (http://Zorloo Ztella DAC) via USB-C on my Pixel 2 XL.
Sound can run through it using the OOBE option but... it definitely doesn't sound like it is using the DAC properly.
The reason I feel this to be the case is that I can use the Onkyo HF Player and tell it to explicitly use the Ztella. The indicator on the front should be blue for 48 KHz or lower sample rates. Red for anything greater than 48 KHz. Playing back a 96 KHz file, the light remains blue.
Any chance there is an option coming for routing audio through an externally connected via OTG DAC/headphone amp?
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You should be able to import the playlists using the Import Folder option in the main menu.
Hi Brad.
I installed JRiver for Android 26.0.26 and I now can see my playlists. :)
But I'm sorry to report that while I can see the playlists now, there are 2 problems:
1) Each playlist shown in the "Imported Playlists" folder does not show any icons, just a description (the name of the playlists) below where an icon would normally be.
2) When I select any of the playlists, it open to a blank page and nothing happens. I do know that my playlists are OK as Rocket Player finds them and plays the music on the playlists just fine.
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Michel.
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Hi Brad.
I installed JRiver for Android 26.0.26 and I now can see my playlists. :)
But I'm sorry to report that while I can see the playlists now, there are 2 problems:
1) Each playlist shown in the "Imported Playlists" folder does not show any icons, just a description (the name of the playlists) below where an icon would normally be.
2) When I select any of the playlists, it open to a blank page and nothing happens. I do know that my playlists are OK as Rocket Player finds them and plays the music on the playlists just fine.
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Michel.
Do you see the files that should be in the playlist in the library?
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Do you see the files that should be in the playlist in the library?
Hi Brad.
I just checked and yes, I can see and play the individual songs that are listed in the playlists.
Michel.
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Hi Brad.
I just checked and yes, I can see and play the individual songs that are listed in the playlists.
Michel.
Can you e-mail one of the m3u files to brad at jriver ?
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I swear I just posted a bug report here and now it's gone?
Thanks, Chris
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I swear I just posted a bug report here and now it's gone? Did it get moved or deleted?
Thanks, Chris
Other than this one?
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,118438.msg859247.html#msg859247
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Yes, I just posted an update on 26.0.26 and now it's gone..or maybe I'm going crazy. Anyway, bottom line I'm seeing the same problem with Library views with .26. as I reported in the above post you referenced. Platform is the Shield...
Chris
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This? It was posted in a different thread.
"There is a bug in all versions of 26,now on 26.0.22. I use Windows drive mappings for importing from my NAS. I have 3 different mappings for Movies (M:), TV Shows (T:) and Music (U:). When I go from TV Shows to Music, loading a different library each time corresponding to the drive mapping, the configured drive mapping does not persist. For example if I load the TV Library which is configured to use T:, and I switch to my music library which was previously configured to use U:, the old drive mapping shows up, for example T: instead of U: which had been configured before."
"This does not happen with MC 25. It's definitely a bug that was introduced with MC 26."
Thanks, Chris
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No, sorry. That was a different problem I had with MC 26.
Chris
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You can copy and paste it back there. Sorry I moved it here.
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Jim,
It's good, maybe I never hit send. Regardless, the post is gone. That one belongs in that other thread, not this one.
Thanks again, no worries...Chris
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Can you e-mail one of the m3u files to brad at jriver ?
No problem. I send some to you right now.
Michel.
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A very good summary of the development of Image Formats and future AVIF support of different platforms:
https://netflixtechblog.com/avif-for-next-generation-image-coding-b1d75675fe4 (https://netflixtechblog.com/avif-for-next-generation-image-coding-b1d75675fe4)
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I have the Master License. One thing that keeps me using the Mac version is that with Airfoil, I can play JRiver thru my AV receiver while simultaneously sending the audio in sync (thanks to a short delay I figured out and set up in Airfoil once and has worked ever since) to my old Airplay speaker.
Will running JRiver on my Android, just like JRiver installed on a computer, show up as a Zone in JRiver (Mac, Linux, Windows) desktop app, so that I can link my local "Here" zone on my (let's say, Linux) desktop to the Zone on the Android? If so, assuming the timing adjustment I can set will reliably hold, then by plugging an Android into the RCA inputs of my old Airplay speaker i could get same functionality - JRiver playing in sync on my desktop's physically connected AV receiver and my Airplay speaker (or countless other devices) without need for Apple's Airplay protocol.
Thanks
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I updated to .21 on my Shield. After this happened, the app icon was set to the default Android icon, not the MC logo. Opening the app took a long time, but did eventually open.
I was able to play back videos with ac3 audio. A few things I noticed:
- When I first launched a video, the play controls stayed on the screen until I hit the back button. They should vanish after a few seconds.
- The rwd/ fwd buttons don't work (I assume this is a yet thing)
- On the phone, there's a progress bar that I could tap on to move forward. Will something like this be implemented on Android TV, so I can use the right arrow d-pad control to move on the progress bar?
- I played a show, and just let the video finish. I then walked to the kitchen. After a bit of time, the video just started playing over again.
- The video that I played wasn't marked as watched when I looked at my library server. I'm looking at the Date Last Opened field.
- If I pause the video, when I start it back, there's no sound for about a second. I'm pretty sure this has something to do with my stereo because the same thing happens with Netflix - but not the YouTubeTV app. I'm guessing YTTV keeps the audio alive with no sound.
#2 and #5 did work on the phone, but I would expect Last Played to be set and it wasn't.
Any updates on these items from January?
Fast forward and rewind are two things that I would consider aspects of a minimum viable product for a video player. I have this installed on my Shield and I update it now and then, but I'm always using MO4 Media because I can't control the position of the video at this point.
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Any updates on these items from January?
Fast forward and rewind are two things that I would consider aspects of a minimum viable product for a video player. I have this installed on my Shield and I update it now and then, but I'm always using MO4 Media because I can't control the position of the video at this point.
26.0.33 (3/9/2020)
1. NEW: (Android TV) Fast forward and rewind now work with video.
2. NEW: (Android TV) Added cover art support.
I used this last night with video to test the ffd/ rwd actions. A few comments:
1. When I fast forward, or rewind, I have to click play again. Using the FFD icon, moves you up 10 seconds, but also pauses the playback.
2. In order to fast forward, you need to hit down on the D-Pad to get the icons to show up. I feel like simply hitting right or left on the d-pad should trigger this action.
3. The action dialog doesn't disappear. You have to hit fast forward as many times as you like, then play, then back to get rid of the display.
4. I'm equating this to my use of YouTubeTV on the Shield. It does a lot of more advanced stuff that would be great (holding down the right button moves you in chunks of 30 seconds, but after a few chunks, it speeds up to 60 second chunks, then 120 seconds). This may be nice to do because if I start a movie playback and need to jump back to where I was before, jumping forward 10 seconds at a time could take a while.
I assume most of those are on your list, but wanted to bring them up just in case.
Thanks!
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Question:
If I have a protected ISO on my PC and use VCD and anydvd to play using MC, how can this now be done via Shield through DLNA? Is this at all possible or do I need to convert these ISO's to MKV or similar?
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Can the first post be updated to the current feature set?
Is UHD playback supported? I imported one movie to a remote library and it does not show up in MC for Android even after reloading the library.
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Need help. I have jriver for my nvidea shield tv, as well as cell phone. Both served from jriver on windows. All versions are current. All on the same network. Neither cell phone nor shield plays video. On the phone, it sees the server library. Shows me the videos, and cover art and attempts to play, but just keeps loading, attempting to play, but loading at the same time. If I pause it and fast forward I can see the video clip paused, as soon as i resume playback, it just tries to load. Shield is completely different. When i have no data, so either erase all data, or delete the jriver app, and load app fresh. I can see a video menu. I can load the server library, as soon as i do, the video menu disappears. If a look at playlists, the video playlists are there, but empty. The jriver media server works well if a use Mo4Media app, so i know the server is working. On the windows pc, everything plays perfectly.
I know the video was behind at first in the android tv app, but i figured the phone version should work. What am I missing.
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This isn't the solution you are looking for but I would just use a remote like MO4media on the phone.
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Question:
If I have a protected ISO on my PC and use VCD and anydvd to play using MC, how can this now be done via Shield through DLNA? Is this at all possible or do I need to convert these ISO's to MKV or similar?
I haven't done any testing with ISO files on Android, but I doubt the player will be able to play them unconverted.
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Can the first post be updated to the current feature set?
Is UHD playback supported? I imported one movie to a remote library and it does not show up in MC for Android even after reloading the library.
Check the Disk section under videos. There is a bug where videos aren't showing up under the other sections.
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Need help. I have jriver for my nvidea shield tv, as well as cell phone. Both served from jriver on windows. All versions are current. All on the same network. Neither cell phone nor shield plays video. On the phone, it sees the server library. Shows me the videos, and cover art and attempts to play, but just keeps loading, attempting to play, but loading at the same time. If I pause it and fast forward I can see the video clip paused, as soon as i resume playback, it just tries to load. Shield is completely different. When i have no data, so either erase all data, or delete the jriver app, and load app fresh. I can see a video menu. I can load the server library, as soon as i do, the video menu disappears. If a look at playlists, the video playlists are there, but empty. The jriver media server works well if a use Mo4Media app, so i know the server is working. On the windows pc, everything plays perfectly.
I know the video was behind at first in the android tv app, but i figured the phone version should work. What am I missing.
What files types are you trying to play? What video compression are they using?
As for the Shield, I'm not sure why the Video section would disappear. Usually you can still find the video under the Disk section of the Video category. The Shield doesn't display all playlists properly at the moment, so that probably why the video playlists appear empty.
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This isn't the solution you are looking for but I would just use a remote like MO4media on the phone.
Or JRemote2 for Android, which plays video files fine for me.
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Check the Disk section under videos. There is a bug where videos aren't showing up under the other sections.
I tried Disk. One of the three movies was there. I tried playing it and a music track started playing. I'm guessing it was the last song in Now Playing.
I still think having the current features and major bugs listed in the first post would be really helpful.
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Check the Disk section under videos. There is a bug where videos aren't showing up under the other sections.
All of my movies show up in the Disk section. However, most of them won't play. They start, but after about 10 - 15 seconds they pause/stop, and pressing play doesn't respond. The movie files that do this are all MKVs that were created from ripping my Blu-ray discs with MakeMKV. They all play fine on my laptop running JRiver Media Center v25. These also play on my NVidia Shield when I use Kodi. I'm not a huge fan of Kodi, so I'm hoping this will work with JRiver on Android. I also have a lot of ripped DVDs and so far JRiver on Android can play them.
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All of my movies show up in the Disk section. However, most of them won't play. They start, but after about 10 - 15 seconds they pause/stop, and pressing play doesn't respond. The movie files that do this are all MKVs that were created from ripping my Blu-ray discs with MakeMKV. They all play fine on my laptop running JRiver Media Center v25. These also play on my NVidia Shield when I use Kodi. I'm not a huge fan of Kodi, so I'm hoping this will work with JRiver on Android. I also have a lot of ripped DVDs and so far JRiver on Android can play them.
What is the video compression for these files? Are you using a loaded library or are the videos imported directly to JRiver for Android?
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The MKV file has h264 video compression and the audio was converted to FLAC when I ripped with MakeMKV. Everything I play from the Nvidia Shield is from a loaded library. I don't have any media stored locally on the Shield. I haven't tried importing anything directly to JRiver for Android and didn't know I could do that from my media server.
While just listening to a playlist of music with my Shield loaded from my library, I noticed it didn't play a DSD encoded file and skipped ahead to the next PCM song on the playlist. Will I need to change the audio conversion setting from 'convert audio if necessary'? I just tried playing one of the DSD files with Kodi and it plays. It took a while for it to start, so I don't know if it is because Kodi is slow or if it was converting the file. I don't use Kodi enough to know if it was a performance issue.
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The MKV file has h264 video compression and the audio was converted to FLAC when I ripped with MakeMKV. Everything I play from the Nvidia Shield is from a loaded library. I don't have any media stored locally on the Shield. I haven't tried importing anything directly to JRiver for Android and didn't know I could do that from my media server.
You can't import from network storage yet, but you can import from an external hard drive. I'm having a hard time reproducing this issue. I haven't had an issue playing mkv Blu-ray rips with h264 video compression from a loaded library. JRiver for Android is still being worked on, so we're still trying to fix these issues.
While just listening to a playlist of music with my Shield loaded from my library, I noticed it didn't play a DSD encoded file and skipped ahead to the next PCM song on the playlist. Will I need to change the audio conversion setting from 'convert audio if necessary'? I just tried playing one of the DSD files with Kodi and it plays. It took a while for it to start, so I don't know if it is because Kodi is slow or if it was converting the file. I don't use Kodi enough to know if it was a performance issue.
Unless you're playing to it as a DLNA renderer, you can't change the audio conversion settings on JRiver for Android, yet. I've had mixed success playing DSD files, but there hasn't been much testing with them yet.
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GreggP's issue is pretty similar to what I reported about a month back:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,124564.0.html (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,124564.0.html)
It still doesn't work here on my Shield with a loaded library and with no transcoding: h264 MKVs, also with FLAC audio, either pushing to the Shield (as I reported above) or pulling from the MC server.
And I too use Kodi as a substitute, alas.
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I currently use jriver remote through my 2019 Nvidia Shield TV Pro and have no issues with streaming audio that originates as DSD, FLAC, APE, WAV, etc. (I also have Gizmo sideloaded (no longer supported directly through Nvidia and playing the same formats)
The one issue I have is unloading jremote as it does not allow one to close the program. The effect of that is not allowing other programs like Netflix and Youtube to run until I go into the settings menu and force close jremote. At times, I need to reboot the Nvidia Shield TV device i order to run other programs. Sensing this may be a memory issue, I added 16gig of storage but that did not seem to alleviate the problem.
Can you please look into this with your next revision? There is also no stop buttton in the audio palyback section.
Thanks. BTW, there is no issue with Gizmo and sometimes, I believe it is a better functioning alternative.
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How do I go about shuffling all my music at once? I can only figure out how to select one artist at a time.
EDIT
In case someone sees this post and has the same issue: On the current beta version I am able to long press artists and hit play. That allows me to shuffle all my music. With the main release on Android a long press doesn't do anything.
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All of my movies show up in the Disk section. However, most of them won't play. They start, but after about 10 - 15 seconds they pause/stop, and pressing play doesn't respond. The movie files that do this are all MKVs that were created from ripping my Blu-ray discs with MakeMKV. They all play fine on my laptop running JRiver Media Center v25.
I also have this issue, files are playing but they pause after a minute or so, the only way to resume is to back out of the movie to the menu and back in again and then it will restart.
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Great to see with .108 files will finally play from Movies!
But reading the menu system in Movies on the Shield there are no genres, all the movies are just bunched together in alphabetical order, I have thousands of movies so this wont work.
Also the subtitles for all movies are locked on and I see no way of removing them in the shield.
PQ on 4K movies looks great though and DTS-MA 7.1 is bit-streaming!
We're getting there people!
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As it seemed that JRiver for Android TV was getting there, I decided to install it on my Sony KD-65X9300D Android TV.
I was using only the IR Remote Control for the TV, so that added some challenges to loading a MC Server Library. But with the correct button sequence, that worked.
However, the only media that will play is images, and each image takes 15 to 30 seconds to load, and only one image will load at a time.
No Audio or Video media will play, at all.
This leaves a little to be desired.
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Just to bump this...
I have the same issue as in this post (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,126255.msg876591.html#msg876591) running on my 2015 4K Sony KD-65X9300D. While it is designated as a 2015 design, but I bought it in December 2016, so no doubt it had some hardware updates along the way. It is an advanced Smart TV running Android TV version 8.0.0 with Kernel version 3.10.79 from March 4th 2020. Very recent.
It doesn't work really, other than menu navigation and loading a remote Library. It can't play anything other than images and does that badly.
I was hoping JRiver for Android TV would run on such a platform. Really, after the Shield and maybe a few lower-end Android TV devices, it should run best on Android TV based Smart TVs, such as the Sony. Those are the primary platforms for Android TV. The current "Xiaomi Mi Box S", which is the only other certified Android TV box apart from the Shield apparently, only runs Android TV 8.1. The Shield is only running Android 9.0 (Pie) powered by Android TV™.
Also, MO 4Media runs on my Sony TV pretty well. It doesn't play all video formats, as I understand it uses the Android playback engine/components, rather than ExoPlayer, but it works for Video, Audio, and Images.
Given that JRemote2 exists for running on mobile phones, I would have thought the most appropriate market for JRiver for Android would be Android TV devices, where a TV could run stand-alone without a NUC or similar small format PC running a MC Client. JRiver for Android TV could be the perfect solution in that situation.
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Hi
Just updated my shield to 8.2 and the new nvidia HDR to SDR tone mapping works fantastic.
First time I've tried JRiver android in a while. Its coming along very nicely.
Cheers
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Can you use android JRiver to control MC on another PC (much like MC acts as Tremote)?
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Can you use android JRiver to control MC on another PC (much like MC acts as Tremote)?
Yes, you can. I have had some issue losing control of playback though. At least for video. Seems to be fine for audio.
Just load a MC Server Library, then under "Settings > Play to" select a Server Zone to play to, which will be in the form "There: Client_Device_Name". The Client_Device_Name in my case is my TV name, and my Workstation PC name.
You have to have the Media Network setting "Show playback zones from the server on the client" turned on.
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Thanks @RoderickGI, decided to purchase it,
but somehow the purchased was declined. ?
I've purchased many other software, this is the first time my payment was declined on PlayStore.
Got it working. But decided to refund it after played with it for a while ... maybe the remote is better for me.
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Hi,
I installed the app on my Shield tube this morning but I don't see where I can load a SMB library. The only option under "tools" is for the Shield drive. It doesn't even show the drives connected to the Shield via SMB. Please help, thx.
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Hi,
I installed the app on my Shield tube this morning but I don't see where I can load a SMB library. The only option under "tools" is for the Shield drive. It doesn't even show the drives connected to the Shield via SMB. Please help, thx.
JRiver for Android does not support importing from network drives, yet. It's a planned addition, but there is no time estimate yet.
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JRiver for Android does not support importing from network drives, yet. It's a planned addition, but there is no time estimate yet.
Thanks, I got myself confused and thought it was ready for smb. So if I don't have MC and the drives are not plugged in directly to the Shield, what are my options? Wait? lol
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Thanks, I got myself confused and thought it was ready for smb. So if I don't have MC and the drives are not plugged in directly to the Shield, what are my options? Wait? lol
Unfortunately, yes. The best options at the moment is either a USB drive or loading a library (which requires Media Center). Importing from network storage is a pretty high priority, so hopefully it won't be long.
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With the latest Exoplayer now supporting Dolby Vision in MKV's any timeline as to when MC will be using it?
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Unfortunately, yes. The best options at the moment is either a USB drive or loading a library (which requires Media Center). Importing from network storage is a pretty high priority, so hopefully it won't be long.
This is great news. I've been anticipating this feature for quite a while now. Keep up the great work.
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Is CloudPlay possible on JRiver for Android?
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Is CloudPlay possible on JRiver for Android?
Yes. It's limited to playback.
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Thank you for the reply and I have purchased J River for android! Trying to sign in for cloudplay on which I have a huge number of playlists. Its asking for my email address but my cloudplay on J River 27 user name is not an email address. I cant get in the door. What is the solution?
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When you registered for Cloudplay, you entered an e-mail address.
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Can you check which version of Android this tablet is using? It might be outside what JRiver for Android supports. JRiver for Android requires Android 5.0 or later.
Is Android 5 the minimum requirement? Can someone confirm please? Thanks. I am looking to use an old tablet as endpoint.
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Is Android 5 the minimum requirement? Can someone confirm please? Thanks. I am looking to use an old tablet as endpoint.
The earliest supported version is Android 7.0
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The earliest supported version is Android 7.0
Thanks for the clarification.
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I have a Fire HD 8 tablet running Fire OS 7 (Android 9 Pie based). I also have Google Play and services sideloaded on it, so it runs just like any Android 9device. I run all kinds of apps from Google app store on it without problems.
Will JRiver on Android run on it?
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If it installs, it will probably run. You have an hour to test it. If there are any problems, uninstall it during that hour.
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What is the general logic in thumbnail caching?
I assume that there is a background process that grabs thumbnails from the MC server loaded, while any object (e.g. album) on first use will instantly be cached? Is there a periodic screen refresh while thumbnails are caching? I notice that sometimes if I click on two objects one after another to get thumbnails on the file level, when I get back to Album, the Album page refreshes. However it is not consistent.
If there is a background process, should I leave the mobile device unlocked to prevent the app from going into sleep mode?
Thanks in advance.
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I notice something interesting about thumbnail display.
Let's say, if I use the slider to go to C, then click a thumbnail with a "?", when I get out, it brings me to the top of the page. Then I use the slider to go to D, then I scroll up, then all the "?" thumbnails between C and D will be filled with artwork.
By the way, all my music files have artwork embedded.
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On Panel, I can see the entire list of songs currently playing at a client endpoint.
On JRiver on Android, I can only see the current song playing. If I swipe left to see the list, I see the list of songs I played from this device last, not the current list at the client endpoint.
Is this behaviour by design?
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This is my usual set up when I play music.
Machine A - MC server
Machine B - JRiver on Android as an endpoint
Machine C - Chrome browser using Panel connected to A and playing music to B
If I pause playing music to make lunch, or if the music has finished playing, and if I leave it for a while, and after 30 minutes or so and start playing music again, I will have trouble playing a new song from C. Sometimes it will play for a few seconds and then it will stop. Then on B, MC displays a message saying there is a problem controlling the DLNA client.
To clear this problem, I will need to stop and start JRiver on Android on B a couple of times, then start playing a song directly on B for a few seconds and then stop it. Then I can get back on C and play music again.
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Hi all
Is JR on Android fully working on Nvidia Shield now for audio and video? And for 4k? Can it access network files?
Is the audio same MC quality as a Windows PC would deliver?
Wondering if I can put my big HTPC in a cupboard and just use it as a server now.
Thanks
Z
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It works but I still prefer using my PC which is more refined. As far as playback of native 4K on a 4K TV quality should be the same. If you are upscaling to 4K it really depends on what your standards are. If you are used to high level madVR settings you might not be happy with it. The Shield's upscaling isn't bad but it isn't MadVR either.
If you are thinking of using the HTPC as a sever you can also consider running the server off of a low powered computer if you have one. I used to run the server on my HTPC but now run it on my old NUC. All my media is on a NAS so it was easy to switch. Now my HTPC stays powered down most of the time.
And yes, to be clear it does play files on the network. I only use the Shield as a client.
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My regular use is through JRiver MAC on MAC notebook with NAS (movies) DAS (music). Just started using JRiver on Android with new Google TV (do not have an Android phone). Is further customisation of the JRiver screen and background possible like on the notebook app. The navigation in general and in particular music with a lack of a vertical list of tracks makes it hardly usable (like all others players I know, but I won't mention names). Is there an option to list tracks in a normal list (among a vertical line)?
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JRiver Android is on Google TV. Music, Video is on NAS. My normal use is with Notebook and JRiver Mac. How can I use JRiver Android without with the help of the JRiver on MAC. I want to have JRiver Android import music from NAS directly. I do not see an option in the menu for that?
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JRiver Android is on Google TV. Music, Video is on NAS. My normal use is with Notebook and JRiver Mac. How can I use JRiver Android without with the help of the JRiver on MAC. I want to have JRiver Android import music from NAS directly. I do not see an option in the menu for that?
JRiver for Android cannot import from network storage at the moment, but this is a planned improvement.
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Happy to report that for the first time since over a year I can use the program again to play my music files stored at a microSD-Card in my Android 8 Head Unit (Joying). A new install of 30.0.47 imported my files from the card and played them without problems. The new interface is looking good - thank you for the important improvement ! My Unit has a coaxial-output and my car-amplifyer an input too so I can use a digital connection to play stereo-files. Using my laptop when I was staying at a campsite I was using HDFury to strip the multichannel audio (JRiver is putting out all the music in Dolby 5.1 multichannel) from HDMI to SPDIF (fiber) to the Dolby-enabled AMP. No luck with multichannel from my android device - probably a limitation of android. But driving and listening to 4 stereo-speakers and a subwoofer is ok....
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Samsung Galaxy A32