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Networks and Remotes => Remotes => Topic started by: Hendrik on April 10, 2020, 04:11:03 am
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Its finally done, right for Easter.
CloudPlay support for JRemote2 has been in development for a long time, and there have been many hurdles to overcome, but now its the first remote that can not only instruct MC itself to play from CloudPlay, but also directly stream from the cloud without involving MC (most of the time). JRemote2 can only play FLAC from CloudPlay (for now), so if another format is encountered, it'll go back to MC and ask it for a transcoded stream - but we're looking into extending the native support for Lossless formats in JRemote2 to tackle this.
Radio JRiver is equally supported in either local or remote playback, in full lossless quality for FLAC streams.
Due to the new requirements for CloudPlay on a remote, using this feature requires Media Center 26.0.52 or newer, which was released publicly just a few hours ago to ensure it can be tested right away!
As an additional bonus, I've included the Theater View Remote functionality in this update, which was originally developed for Gizmo, and never actually made it into the previous version of JRemote. It actually works pretty neatly and I would recommend to check it out if you use Theater View!
Note: Due to the current situation in the world, it may take longer then usual for Google to approve this update and distribute it to all devices.
JRemote 2.1.0 (04/10/2020)
1. NEW: Full CloudPlay support (requires Media Center 26.0.52 or newer)
2. NEW: Theater View Remote
3. Fixed: Saving Rating changes was not working properly
[Edit by JimH -- Split Previous Thread (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.0.html)]
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Thanks, Hendrik! Great to see it released.
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Cloudplay works pretty good in JRemote2, been checking out thecrow's HiRes 24/96 and 24/192 playlists and the smooth jazz playlist. :D
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The original thread on JRemote2 is here: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.0.html
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can't play via cast (home/chromecast) for more than a few minutes, music or video
any suggestions on settings etc. appreciated
thanks for all the work on this
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So... now that this big update is out - can I ask, (pretty please) to add Windows shutdown function?
That would allow for turning my MC 26 Windows PC into a totally headless server, getting rid of the Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse!
Thanks, and happy Easter ;-)
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So... now that this big update is out - can I ask, (pretty please) to add Windows shutdown function?
That would allow for turning my MC 26 Windows PC into a totally headless server, getting rid of the Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse!
Thanks, and happy Easter ;-)
As an alternative you could run any number of utilities for that purpose. I have been using Unified Remote for over a year without issue. All of my electronics are inside the house with the TV and surround speakers on the lanai.
https://www.unifiedremote.com/
You can also run VNC on the server, and install viewer on your control devices or other pc's for direct management.
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As an alternative you could run any number of utilities for that purpose. I have been using Unified Remote for over a year without issue. All of my electronics are inside the house with the TV and surround speakers on the lanai.
https://www.unifiedremote.com/
Interesting. Will give it a try. Thanks!
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It's on the Play Store now.
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Radio JRiver played sweet Jazz to me all night... nearly flattened my phone battery though, and it was on charge! :o
I am still having ongoing and inconsistent connection issues though. I don't think it is just a JRemote2 issue. It's just that my MC Servers sometimes don't seem to respond, because the Library Server isn't visible to BingoSSDP or JRemote2, even when the MC DLNA Server on that PC is visible. Very strange. A WOL sent from the long press popup menu on My Servers just caused JRemote2 to see my HTPC MC Library Server and connect, when before that it could see the PC but wouldn't connect. The HTPC is on 24/7 at the moment, so connection should be immediate.
I would love to have a simple and reliable way to diagnose this connectivity stuff.
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Now that the big ticket items (CloudPlay and Theater View Remote) have been added, I would love to see regular minor updates to fix the little issues that were mentioned after the previous release (titles don't scroll, metadata needs some formatting tweaks, etc). Thanks
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Just tried for the first time to Chromecast some FLAC files using MC26 and JRemote2, but the files appear to be transcoded to MP3 and then cast. Is this a setting issue or a current standard feature? Advice please, thanks.
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Does JRemote2 understand CUE sheets?
Just made one for a particularly long mix of tracks sold consolidated in to one. Plays as intended in MC and appears fine in JRemote2, but selecting any track just plays the long mix from the beginning.
Edit: Got it to work by disabling the Use native audio format option.
I see it behaves similarly to when using MC to push media to other devices with DSP: transcoding must be in play to actually apply the desired effects.
This is obviously not a high priority at this early stage, but consider this a feature request for later: if Use native audio format is enabled and media asset is CUE, convert to same format as the file the CUE references.
Migrating this over from the other thread as part of my feature wishlist.
Also requesting:
- Ability to exclude lossy files from transcoding when Use native audio format is turned off.
- Ability to downsample lossless files (take FLAC 192/24, for instance, and sample it down to 44.1/16) for ease of streaming through the cloud on 4G (LTE), as opposed to outright transcoding them to a lossy format.
- Volume levelling, adaptive volume, and headphones DSP—but especially the latter.
- Rating stars in metadata viewer, as seen in the original JRemote. As it stands, cannot rate track without it already playing.
Speaking of ratings, thank you SO much for fixing them! It feels so good to rate tracks again! ^o^
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Hi,
Can you please implement the option of controlling RadioParadise?.
Many thanks,
O
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I'm having trouble playing music using the "player" zone on JRiver clients using JRemote2 (JRemote works fine). I created post 196 in the beta thread about this issue but the thread is now locked so I'm posting again.
In my setup, I have one central library server and multiple clients which connect to the library server. Typically, I control the clients using JRemote to play music using the "player" zone. With JRemote2 this method doesn't work.
I can push music from the server to the client using DLNA and JRemote2. Heck, the client can even push music to itself via DLNA and JRemote2 but when I switch the zone to "player" in JRemote2 the client will not play music. Switch the zone back to the client via DLNA and it works again.
Use becomes tricky this way because I can connect to my client but the client is going to push to the last zone selected in the app which may not be that particular client. I'm not opposed to simply pushing to all of my clients but it is my understanding that I can't apply volume leveling without transcoding.
Any thoughts? I appreciate the help.
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Designmule, I covered all this back here: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.msg857499.html#msg857499
Read back through that thread and see if you missed something. What you are doing works fine for me. You may need to concisely clarify your setup again. I am not comfortable with the way you talk about DLNA connections in your description above, because while MC uses DLNA as part of the Media Network functionality, the Client/Server connection is more than that. So I am wondering if we are having a communication problem here.
To reiterate, I run a MC Server, I have a MC Client connected to that Server, I connect JRemote2 to the Client (which is running Media Network and so allows that connection), and I can play music to the Player Zone on the Client.
I can also play to the Player Zone on the Server, which is called "There", because I am connected to the Client, and the Client sees the MC Server Player Zone as "There".
Regarding this specific comment:
Use becomes tricky this way because I can connect to my client but the client is going to push to the last zone selected in the app which may not be that particular client.
Go into the JRemote2 settings, under Application Settings, turn on "Server follows App Zones". See if that makes a difference.
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.... the cloud without involving MC (most of the time)........
I can confirm that, sometimes it works without running a server, sometimes not, because I have to connect to a server in the App.
So, what means "most of the time" exact and why is it so?
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Designmule, I covered all this back here: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.msg857499.html#msg857499
To reiterate, I run a MC Server, I have a MC Client connected to that Server, I connect JRemote2 to the Client (which is running Media Network and so allows that connection), and I can play music to the Player Zone on the Client.
I can also play to the Player Zone on the Server, which is called "There", because I am connected to the Client, and the Client sees the MC Server Player Zone as "There".
Ok, I think I see where my wires were crossed. I was enabling the DLNA renderer option in order to push to clients. But I now realize that your use of the term "There" refers to the option to "Show playback zones from the server on the client". I have enabled this and in JRiver I can see the option of "There" to which I can play music on my server from the client. I also see two of my other clients labeled as "There: Clientname" even though they are not library servers.
However, in JRemote2 I now only "'This device" and "Player" as optional zones. The original JRemote shows "This device", "Player", "There", as well as the two other clients.
And all authentications is turned off and cleared out of JRemote & JRemote2 BTW.
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I can see "This device", "Player", and "There" in JRemote2 when connected to a Client that has a Library loaded from the Server. Plus other local Zones on the Client.
Authentication is only a requirement for syncing, I believe. I have it turned on in the Server and Client, and have the Username and Password saved in JRemote2.
Sometimes Zones can take a little while to show up in the Media Network environment, although I haven't seen any delay in JRemote2 showing them. If the Zones show in the MC Client, and JRemote2 is connected to that Client, I would expect all the same Zones to show up, named the same way.
Try turning on the DLNA Controller in the Client as well, if it isn't already on. The Server should have DLNA Controller on already. In fact, on both my Server and Client I just turn on DLNA Server, Renderer, and Controller for simplicity, and so I can see all options. Try that.
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I can confirm that, sometimes it works without running a server, sometimes not, because I have to connect to a server in the App.
So, what means "most of the time" exact and why is it so?
Which files can be played from CloudPlay without MC being involved is outlined in the first post of this thread.
Either way, JRemote is designed to run with a MC server, its not going to function without one, and its not a design goal to ever support that. Its just a nice feature to be able to stream from CloudPlay without having to go through MC, and we'll extend when this is possible more in the future.
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Try turning on the DLNA Controller in the Client as well, if it isn't already on. The Server should have DLNA Controller on already. In fact, on both my Server and Client I just turn on DLNA Server, Renderer, and Controller for simplicity, and so I can see all options. Try that.
With all of the DLNA bits turned enabled on both the client and server, I still do not have the zone "there" available on JRemote2 though it is visible in Media Center. I enabled all of these options last night and have restarted both the server and client so there should be no issues with there being a delay in propagating the zone to JRemote2. Additionally, I can now see all of the other clients available as zones in JRemote2 because DLNA has been enabled on them as well. However, there are not listed as "there: clientname".
Oddly, now that all of the DLNA pieces are turned on, JRemote2 will connect to the client and from the zone "player" it acts as if it is able to play music. If I hit play on a track, JRemote2 indicates that it is playing the track, it sets volume (which it shouldn't do as I have volume disabled) and even advances to the next track on the album. However, no music is playing over the system and Media Center indicates that nothing is playing. This is consistent across multiple clients and JRemote (original) still works fine.
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Oddly, now that all of the DLNA pieces are turned on, JRemote2 will connect to the client and from the zone "player" it acts as if it is able to play music. If I hit play on a track, JRemote2 indicates that it is playing the track, it sets volume (which it shouldn't do as I have volume disabled) and even advances to the next track on the album. However, no music is playing over the system and Media Center indicates that nothing is playing. This is consistent across multiple clients and JRemote (original) still works fine.
If you select anything but the "Here" zone in JRemote, then it can't exactly fake playing anything, it only reports what MC tells it, so somewhere some zone in MC must be playing to something, if its not coming out somewhere its probably a mis-configured zone.
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If you select anything but the "Here" zone in JRemote, then it can't exactly fake playing anything, it only reports what MC tells it, so somewhere some zone in MC must be playing to something, if its not coming out somewhere its probably a mis-configured zone.
I don't have "Here" as an option in JRemote2, I have "Player" and "This Device". Your comment about coming out somewhere got me to do some investigating. What seems to be happening is that no matter which client I connect to using JRemote2 it is attempting to play music on the server. I have the sound card disabled on that machine as its a headless server so ordinarily when I hit play on JRemote2 nothing happens because there is no sound device. Yesterday I plugged a DAC and headphones into the server to try and test something. That's why when I hit play on JRemote2, it started playing.
I'm not sure how this is happening. Clients are added to JRemote2 using their access keys, which I've double checked and verified against JRemote which doesn't have the same behavior
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Ok, so I just powered off one of my clients. I was then able to "connect" to it via JRemote2 and in "Playing Now" was the last track I played on the server. So it would seem that regardless of the client I choose, JRemote2 is connecting directly to the library server.
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Ok, so I just powered off one of my clients. I was then able to "connect" to it via JRemote2 and in "Playing Now" was the last track I played on the server. So it would seem that regardless of the client I choose, JRemote2 is connecting directly to the library server.
If you are trying to connect to different MC instances on your network, it really helps to use a different port for each instance. My server uses 52199 and the client uses 52198. Before I did this I was seeing behaviour similar to what you're describing above.
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I use port 52199 on my Server and Client, and JRemote2 works fine. Each Server and Client must have its own MC Access Key, and MC should force that automatically. Maybe with more Clients on the network there is a problem. I only have one Client. I can't replicate the problem.
Designmule, did you do this?
Go into the JRemote2 settings, under Application Settings, turn on "Server follows App Zones". See if that makes a difference.
With that setting, JRemote2 should change the Zone on the Clint correctly, and play where you told it to play.
Also make sure that "App follow server zones" is not selected.
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Designmule, did you do this?
I did and it didn't make any difference. It seems pretty clear to me that the app is connecting to the library server even though I have entered the access key for the client. I can remote in to the server and when I use JRemote2 which indicates that it is playing to the correct zone on the correct client and play a track the track queues up on the server.
This probably explains why when using the app I don't have the option of "There" because on the library server I wouldn't expect there to be a "There" unless it was connected to another library server.
Furthermore if I delete the client from JRemote2 and add it back using the appropriate access key, JRemote2 names the client with the name of the server. So instead of the newly re-added client appearing as "Livingroom" in JRemote2 it shows up as "Fileserver". I now remember this happening when I first installed JRemote2. At the time, I just renamed the client to it's correct name in the app.
I think I'm going to delete the app, reinstall it and see if that fixes things. If not, I'll look further into the port thing suggested by DJLegba. I think at minimum I can power down all of my clients but one eliminate the possibility that the issue is related to multiple clients using the same port.
I appreciate the suggestions.
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I think I'm going to delete the app, reinstall it and see if that fixes things.
Good idea.
It sounds like both the Client and the Server have the same Access Key, which can happen for local Libraries when a Library Backup from a Server is Restored onto a Client, including settings. But that should only affect the Local Library, and not the local copy of the Server Library.
If that happened and JRemote2 had two Libraries that it could connect to with the same Access Key, it might always pick the Server Library. If that is what is happening, then I would think that was unintended functionality.
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Uninstalling the app made no difference. When I reinstalled it all of the servers and settings were still there and again when I connected to my client and attempted to play music the track queued up on the server.
All of the client access keys are correct and match what is entered into the original JRemote. I don't even have the library server added to the app because I don't use it to play music though I have added it for testing and then removed it.
I'll look into the port thing but I'm kind of skeptical about that as I've run JRiver and JRemote with multiple clients for a number of years and not had an issue there.
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If you use the same port everywhere, and JRemote2 happens to connect through the public IP, then you can only have one system reachable - likely your server. If you used different ports, it would ensure that all systems are uniquely identified, even if it tries to use the public IP.
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D'oh! Thanks Hendrik.
I didn't even think to ask if you were connecting to your home network via WiFi Designmule. Hendrik's comment has reminded me, if you are only connected to the internet from your phone via Mobile Data, then JRemote2 is trying to connect to your Client via your external Public IP Address, and if you have Port Forwarding set up to forward a MC connection to your MC Server, then you will get the result you are seeing.
Make sure the phone is connected to your home network via WiFi. Turn off Mobile Data on your phone for testing, so that it can't connect via that path.
If you can't do that, then set up different ports for your MC Clients and Port Forwarding to each Client correctly. But then understand that your music will be playing via Mobile Data, which may be costing you a lot, depending on your mobile provider and plan. If you are connected to both WiFi and Mobile Data your music will be routed via your home network.
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D'oh! Thanks Hendrik.
I didn't even think to ask if you were connecting to your home network via WiFi Designmule. Hendrik's comment has reminded me, if you are only connected to the internet from your phone via Mobile Data, then JRemote2 is trying to connect to your Client via your external Public IP Address, and if you have Port Forwarding set up to forward a MC connection to your MC Server, then you will get the result you are seeing.
Make sure the phone is connected to your home network via WiFi. Turn off Mobile Data on your phone for testing, so that it can't connect via that path.
If you can't do that, then set up different ports for your MC Clients and Port Forwarding to each Client correctly. But then understand that your music will be playing via Mobile Data, which may be costing you a lot, depending on your mobile provider and plan. If you are connected to both WiFi and Mobile Data your music will be routed via your home network.
It's not as alarming or extreme as that, and you don't need to set up port forwarding for every client. If JRemote sometimes connects to the wrong host the simplest solution is to assign each host (server or client) a different port. It worked for me (and BTW, it was Hendrik who suggested it).
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Is there a fuzzy top level search function in the Android app that behaves like the search function in iOS?
In the iOS search is on the left pull out menu, and when using it it will query results from all categories and display in a nested list form.
Thank you
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It's not as alarming or extreme as that, and you don't need to set up port forwarding for every client. If JRemote sometimes connects to the wrong host the simplest solution is to assign each host (server or client) a different port. It worked for me (and BTW, it was Hendrik who suggested it).
Changing the port on each of the clients as you suggested seems to have it taken care of it on my end. I expected to have to forward the port but as you say, it isn't necessary.
I appreciate the suggestion and everyone else's help.
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Is there a fuzzy top level search function in the Android app that behaves like the search function in iOS?
Not yet.
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Feature requests: A way of accessing DSP Studio from JRemote2.
For example, it would be nice to twiddle the graphic equaliser in Player to fix badly mastered albums during playback.
Also Artist Bio of original JRemote has gone.
:)
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I want to try this app out but it has pretty low ratings and it's 9.99
If I don't like it, can I get a refund?
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It all depends on Play Store policies. I think the refund window is like 2 hours after purchase, if I recall correctly.
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The ratings are pretty screwed up since most people signed up for Beta testing, and those ratings and reviews don't show up on the public play store page.
As Awesome Donkey says, refunds are handled by the Play Store directly, and Googles policies therein.
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Sorry if I missed it in my search but none of my Chromecasts show up in zones. How do I cast?
Also, is it possible to add all the current features of the app in the first post? They haven't been moved over from the previous thread.
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What is the difference between the Jremote2 and jriver for Android apps?
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To put it in as simple terms as possible JRemote2 is a remote for a JRiver Media Center running on another PC/Mac. You can either control a Media Center instance running on another device or stream media from a Media Center instance running on another device to your Android device. For example, I have JRiver Media Center running on a Raspberry Pi 24/7 with my music library of nearly 115,000 songs. I can stream my FLAC files from my Raspberry Pi to my Android phone using a remote like JRemote2. Obviously this means it requires JRiver Media Center running on a PC/Mac to work so it can't play files locally on the Android device for example. There's other remotes like Gizmo, MO 4Media, Panel (which runs in a web browser), etc.
JRiver for Android is a standalone Android media player app that can play files that are located locally on a device and it can also load libraries from other Media Center instances running on PCs/Macs. Basically it's JRiver Media Center ported to run on Android devices, but it uses Panel for its UI however it doesn't have feature parity with Media Center on PCs/Macs yet but it's in active development. There's work-in-progress things like video support on Android TV boxes, for example. It's more-or-less still the early days for JRiver for Android and its development. :)
More info on remotes: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes
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Thank you for the quick response. A couple more questions if I purchase jriver for Android for 9.99 do I automatically get all future updates to the app or am I going to have to pay upgrade fees like you do with media center? And for Jremote2 does it also function as a music player for music on my Android phone?
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As far as I know, the purchase of JRiver for Android will allow updates as long as the app is updated... unless they release a successor app, e.g. JRiver2 for Android or something like that. JRiver for Android doesn't use any sort of external licensing (so you can't use your Media Center master license for example to get JRiver for Android).
Like I said above, JRemote2 requires JRiver Media Center running on a PC/Mac, and it can stream media from Media Center running on a PC/Mac to an Android device. JRemote2 can't play files that are located locally on an Android phone, for example. It's a remote app, not an actual media player. JRiver for Android on the other hand is a media player though.
Think of it this way... let's say you have JRiver Media Center running on a PC/Mac with your library full of media that you use constantly. Let's then say you want to play/stream that media within your Media Center library on a device like a phone. For this a remote app would work, just remember to change the zone within the remote app to "This Device" or whatever it's called in the remote app. JRemote2 would be my main recommendation for this, however JRiver for Android can also load a remote library as well as long as Media Network is enabled in JRiver Media Center running on a PC/Mac. Technically, you can use both JRiver for Android to playback media on your phone and use JRemote2 to control it at the same time on the same device, but this may be a bit cumbersome using two apps like this at the same time, but it is indeed possible.
Now, let's say you want to use your phone to control media playing back in a JRiver Media Center instance running on a PC/Mac. JRemote2 can also do this.
Finally, let's say you've put a bunch of music files on a SD card that's in your phone and you want to play those. JRiver for Android would be the recommendation there, JRemote2 can't do this.
P.S. If you decide to purchase, I highly suggest testing immediately because if JRiver for Android or JRemote2 doesn't suit your needs, you can get a refund from the Google Play Store within 2 hours of the purchase. So if purchasing, test ASAP just in case.
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Thank you that helps one last question
For Jremote2 to work do have to be connected to wifi
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Yes.
And Media Network needs to be enabled within JRiver Media Center. Here's a helpful wiki topic about that: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Network
This wiki topic about network access is also helpful: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access
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Hi Hendrik, JRemote2 looks really fine.
What I miss on the JRemote(2), is to see my rating of the individual tracks, when selecting and opening an album.
I like to play the tracks I like ;-)
Now I have to select and play the whole album first, then go to the now playing window, then shifting the album to the left to get the playlist showing the ratings per track.
So that's a long way to find my favourite numbers :-(
Is it possible to show the ratings on the window showing the tracks within the albums?
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For Jremote2 to work do have to be connected to wifi
Yes.
Let me clarify that. The Android device needs to have network access to the MC Server you want to play music from. That network connection can be WiFi, Mobile Broadband, or just a Data connection on a mobile phone.
So if you are away from home and want to connect to and play from the MC Server you have at home, that works fine. There is some setup required on your home network, such as Port Forwarding and Wake On WAN if your server is allowed to sleep. WOW can be a can of worms, and will not on some ISP routers, but if the MC Server is left always running, you don't need WOW, just Port Forwarding.
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Hendrik, bravo on the Theater View remote control! It is very intuitive and response, I like it. It is also very timely since my Flirc just up and died and I needed a backup way to control Theater View from the couch. I am in no hurry to purchase another IR receiver as the alternative works so well.
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G'day from DownUnder!
I'm starting to really like JRemote2 for Android! I have been a long time Gizmo user, and I think now JRemote is at a level where I will stop using Gizmo in favour of it.
I use my Media Center apps often in my vehicle to stream my music collection to my vehicle's audio system (as I'm sure many would do).
I just purchased a new vehicle which has Android Auto, and noticed some very strange behaviour with JRemote2.
The phone (A Nokia 8 / Android 9) is connected to the Android Auto head unit via USB cable. Via Gizmo, I can stream audio and play it via the head unit without any issues.
If I then exit Gizmo, and fire up JRemote, start streaming a song, I can see that it appears to be playing, but no audio comes out of the head unit. If I then stop, and exit JRemote, and start Gizmo up again, and start playing a track, BOTH Gizmo and JRemote audio starts playing simultaneously!
Is there any chance that JRemote may support Android Auto in the future? It would make the in-vehicle experience so much better!
Loving the products that you guys produce (ie. MediaCenter 26 and JRemote is pretty hard to beat)!
Best wishes for everyone's health and welbeing during the "current situation".
UPDATE
I just realised I had the 'MO 4Media' app installed on my phone, so I'm giving that a try - supports Android Auto...
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Ok, Downloaded Both JRiver for Android and JRemote2. I pretty much determined JRemote2 seems more what I am looking for.
What is the Cloudplay? I could nor connect with my Username and Password. Please advise, thanks
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Start at the Cloudplay topic on the wiki. You need to set up a Cloudplay account. Try it in MC first, then in JRemote2.
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Ok, been playing with JRemote2 this afternoon and confirmed it only works on Wifi which is really good for me. I go on a lot of walks, not near Wifi.
And just confirm, it cannot be used as a player for music on my SmartPhone? I have a 400 gig SDcard on my device so most of the music I want to hear is on the device. If that is the case, are there any plans to add that functionality? I did not like jriver for android, and all the other mp3 players I have tried seem to have their own issues. mainly they read my playlists properly. Very Frustrating.
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JRemote2 can play files from your server using your mobile data connection. You need to open access to your server. See the Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access) topic on our wiki.
For playback of local data on the phone, JRiver for Android will work.
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Thanks, there is still something not working right it works fine when I'm at my house then when I go on the road it doesn't connect. I have my mobile data connection on and I have the access key entered in Jremote2 app. Can I get this message on my phone. See attached
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Did you try the Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access) topic?
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In brief, you need to set up Port Forwarding in your router, and at least initially set your MC Server to never sleep. Get that working and go from there.
There are lots of threads on the forum with lots of details on this subject.
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Jim H, yes I read the information but it did not provide a lot of detail on the Phone. Keep in mind, I am not a highly technical person so I don't understand this stuff very well.
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Thanks RoderickGI, trying to look through all the threads to find answers is really challenging.
I went into my Netgear router and tried to set up Port forwarding and I selected the attached device in the list which is a Note9 and I get an error message. "Invalid service name." I could not find where to set my MC Server to never sleep.
Thanks
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Q: Please confirm the exact (full) version of MC you are running.
Q: Also the full Android version on your Note9.
You need to set up Port Forwarding to your MC Server on your Router, and not to the Note9. This will allow your Note9 to connect via Mobile Data to your home network, and hence to your MC Server, which must be turned on.
Q: What is the make and model of your Router?
Q: Who is your Internet Service Provider?
Google is your friend when it comes to finding out how to do things like make a PC Never Sleep.
Q: What Operating System are you running your MC Server on? Windows 10?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/4027067/windows-10-how-to-adjust-power-and-sleep-settings
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MC Version just updated today to 26.0.80
Android Version also just updated to N960U1UES4DTD1 /N960U1OYM4DTD1 /N96U1UES4DTD1
When I try to set up the Port Forwarding, it's asking me for the following:
Service Name
External Starting Port
External Ending Port
I have not idea what that is...
Router is Netgear WNDR3700v3
Internet - Spectrum
OS Windows 10
I use google a lot but this one is more technical than I am used to. Thanks for the help
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Excellent. So latest MC, Android 10, and Windows 10. Should work fine. Plus the venerable Netgear WNDR3700v3. My old old router was a Netgear WNDR3700v1. They work pretty well.
As long as you are using the default settings in MC, which means Port 52199 is used (See Media Network > Advanced > TCP Port):
External Starting Port: 52199
External Ending Port: 52199
Internal Starting Port: 52199
Internal Ending Port: 52199
You have set the Service Name to "MC". That is fine.
It looks like you have set the Internal IP Address to the MC Server address. That would be correct. Although you have set 192.168.1.9, whereas I think your MC Server is running on you laptop, which is showing up as 192.168.1.6. Check that.
That should be all that is required. If you still have issues, try setting:
External Starting Port: 52100
External Ending Port: 52200
Internal Starting Port: 52100
Internal Ending Port: 52200
But that shouldn't be necessary.
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I have both JRemote and JRemote2 on my Android phone. Use them only to control MC on the various PCs around the house. JRemote works well except for the broken "App follows Zone" feature. JRemote2 has fixed that problem, but lacks "Artist Bio". Both apps are responsive and fast. I would like to see "Artist Bio" in JRemote2 so I no longer need to flip between apps.
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Ok, changed the setting in my router see attached. I still don't think its working. to test it properly would be to turn off the wifi on my phone so goes to the mobile data network, correct?
also, the IP address on my phone is different, will that create an issue?
So when I turn the wifi off, I don't seem to be connected, can't access the playlists so I don't think I am connected correctly, see attached screenshots.
Thanks
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Netgear Info attached
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This should really have been a separate thread, but...
I can see a couple of problems.
First, in your last image, you are showing that you are Port Forwarding to 192.168.1.14, which is the IP Address of your Note9. You need to port forward to your MC Server, which is on the LAPTOP-B7T2MHQ0 I believe, so in the last image, it would have been 192.168.1.3. If that is always the address for the laptop, then Port Forward to that.
Second, however, it appears that your Laptop does change IP Address. Right now I can see that your laptop, at this very minute (yes, I can see your laptop IP Address because you shared your JRiver Access Key in those images) is 192.168.1.8. So Port Forwarding isn't going to work at the moment.
What you need to do is set up IP Address Reservation in your router, so that your laptop always gets the same IP Address when it is running on your home network. I haven't used Netgear Genie in ages, but I think it has a section for "IP Address Reservation" and calls it that. Some routers call it a "Static Lease". Not a Static IP Address. You don't want that. The WNDR3700v3 manual online seems to be a simplified version, so I can't check where this function is...
Ah, here it is, in the FAQ:
For the new (NETGEAR genie) router interface: https://kb.netgear.com/12923/Router-Initial-Setup-FAQ#howassignip
Log into your router.
To acquire the IP address the computer or device is currently using, click Attached Devices under the BASIC tab. Note the IP address (192.168.1.x) the device is currently using.
Click ADVANCED > Setup > LAN setup.
Under Address Reservation, click Add.
Type in the IP Address (ex: 192.168.1.x), MAC Address, and Device Name.
Click Add to save the information.
So set that up to an appropriate address, and then set Port Forwarding to that address.
to test it properly would be to turn off the wifi on my phone so goes to the mobile data network, correct?
Correct.
also, the IP address on my phone is different, will that create and issue?
It doesn't matter, because you aren't Port Forwarding to your phone.
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Ok, did all that and I think it worked. I turned off my wifi on my phone and then started JRemote2 and the full menu showed up. I'll take the dog for a walk and check it out. Thanks
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I notice in the metadata view that duration is shown in seconds, would be nice if this were converted to a human readable format.
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Ok, update. I could not get the music files to play this morning. JRemote2 looked like it was connected but it just would not play anything, it was like the App was frozen. So I gave up.
This afternoon I double-checked everything, the router, IP addresses. I rebooted my phone and computer. it seems to be working now. I was in my house, turned off the WIFI on the phone, opened JRemote2 played music from a playlist and it worked. I walked down the street a couple of hundred feet and it stayed playing. So let's see how it goes tomorrow when I take the pup for a walk
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Anybody else having an issue where tapping a song no longer does anything? I have to tap the play button at the top of any given album to play it and then switch tracks via Playing Now.
EDIT: Never mind. Fixed it by clearing the data and readding the server. Strange.
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I thought JRemote2 had a different screen layout on a tablet compared to a phone.
I wanted to see what JRemote2 looked like on a tablet, so I installed the Bluestacks Android emulator on my PC, and then JRemote2. The screen layouts are identical to those on my phone, if I hold my phone in landscape mode. Bluestacks is set to tablet mode. It certainly doesn't look like this image: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125678.msg871354.html#msg871354
Is that even JRemote2?
So is there only one screen layout for JRemote2?
PS: I am still on the Beta group in the Play Store. Could that be the problem?
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Is that even JRemote2?
No, thats not JRemote2. Might be the iOS version on a tablet.
There is currently very few differences on a tablet for JRemote2, its still up there on the task list to improve it.
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Thanks for answering Hendrik... I may have led someone astray yesterday. Oops.
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I wanted to report how much I am loving the new remote. I was previously running MC24 with Gizmo or Panel and both had various issues. Now with MC26 and Jremote2 it is working great, at home and externally to my network. I travel through a lot of bad mobile reception areas and have experienced few issues. A big thumbs up from me.
I wanted to report a few quirks that may be something to do with my setup/setings or something that might be considered for future updates. I am currently only using it for music playback of my own collection.
Lock screen:
On my lock screen I see the track artist and title, I see pause and skip forward or backward buttons but they do not work. If I have any other notifications I can click those which shows me a notification display for Jremote2 where pause/unpause work. I can't find any options to give the app more permissions to allow working on the lock screen so maybe something that needs work?
Playlist reset:
If I am playing through my car via Bluetooth or using a Bluetooth speaker if the device is powered down Jremote2 stops playing and resets to the beginning of the playlist, whether it is just one album or a randomised playlist. What I would expect/desire is for it to stop playing and stay at the track it was on, possibly even remember the point in the song that it was on.
I have experienced this with a 2016 KIA and a BOSE Bluetooth speaker.
Server:
Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon
MC26 Build 26.0.87
JRMark (version 26.0.87): 3052
Jremote2 Version 2.1.0.api21
Phone:
Samsung Galaxy S8+
Android version 9
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The "Play Next" option inserts the Track as the next to play if JRemote2 is currently playing. However, if it isn't playing, "Play Next" just appends the Track to the end of Playing Now. I don't think that is what was intended.
Well, maybe it is since there is no current playing Track after which to insert the new Track. However, if I have Tracks already in Playing Now and tapped that option, I would expect that Track to be placed at the beginning of Playing Now so that it is indeed played next.
See https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125678.msg872869.html#msg872869 for some details.
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I already bought JRemote 1, and now you want me to buy JRemote2, you removed the old one from the app store. I'm not paying £10 for a remote app again.
The old app worked fine leave it up so I can still download it on new device.
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The old JRemote is still available to users who already own it, it has not been removed from Google Play, only made unavailable for new purchases.
One way to access it is to check the "Library" section in the Play Store app under "My apps", it shows all applications you ever had on your account, and those that you own.
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Great work so far, JRemote2 is my go-to remote to use.
A couple of functions that have been on my wish list for a while, and would round out my very simple listening routines:
1. When browsing tracks to add to playing now, depending on what the view mode is, show visual confirmation of track selection. Now I have to double check the playing now list to make sure the track selection worked.
2. Have proper access for RP playback (popular request). Right now I am using a klutzed together playlist (attached). It works on a pi 4 and the flac links take a bit to load regardless of machine used. Thread: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125897.0.html
Edit: Forgot to mention JR2 returns to home when the screen is rotated unless you are in Playing Now.
Thanks.
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Hi to all. I just downloaded JRemote2 and I enjoy what I see! However, I have a simple question re Playlists: When I tap and hold on a track of an album, (or tap on the three dots next to its name), I get a menu, whereby the last option is to "add to playlist". Choosing it, it appears that it does nothing!
I would expect that in a new screen/window, the list of my playlists would appear allowing me to choose the Playlist to add the track to. Instead, nothing happens!
Is this a bug, am I missing something, or what? How can I add a track to a specific playlist via JRemote2?
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Is it adding to the current playlist?
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The playlist management in JRemote2 is not fully there yet. It'll be expanded in a future update.
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Is it adding to the current playlist?
I am not sure where it is adding it...!!! Maybe is my fault that I don't understand the "mechanics" of adding a track in a playlist within JRemote2!!!
I would expect it to work the way I described it in my original post i.e. during play of a given track, one decides that he/she would like to add it to an existing (or not) playlist, then long clicks on the track, chooses the playlist name and... that's it!
Apparently this is not!!!
What am I missing? How other users add tracks to playlists via JRemote2?
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I am not sure where it is adding it...!!!
It isn't adding it anywhere. It does nothing. The functionality is incomplete, as Hendrik said.
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A couple of small observations from trying this on a new tablet:
The SSL failure error message when connecting to a server should be a lot clearer, and preferably offer to retry without SSL.
The seek bar for video *really* needs a bigger vertical touch zone. If feels as if I have to absolutely hit the line to get it to do something- Mega frustrating :)
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Hi, the app works great for me 99% of the time but it won't play one of my Santana albums remotely, it has the artwork but seemingly can't see the flac (16/44) tracks (plays fine directly through MC26.0.98). Have deleted app, cleared storage and cache, re-imported album in MC26, etc but still no luck.
Also, I have two albums with same name, i.e. '1' and they get merged even though they are by different artists but I see that somebody else has noted this problem. Thanks
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Hi, I have my full collection of flac and mp3's in JRiver 24 tagged etc the way I like. I have a new android phone and I am confused as to what media player I should use. I thought I wanted to purchase JRemote 1 and download a subset of my collection to the phone memory (flac or mp3) and play through headphones or the car bluetooth? JRemote 1 allowed me to keep any meta data associated with the files created by jriver. syncing changes back to jriver would be nice but not essential. Now it sounds like that app is not available and I can get jremote 2 which will control my jriver PC via my in house wifi network and if I set up port forwarding can stream my files via internet or via mobile data to my phone but jremote 2 can't play my subset of files copied and stored on my phone. Do I have this right? Somewhat related question... If I use google play and upload flac or mp3 files to the phone... google play transcodes everything to mp3. Google Does something and builds a library and some how makes them available via the cloud to which I can add purchased files and also get their streamed music with advertisements ( or pay a monthly fee for unlimited access no comercials)? Could I still use jremote to play these google play managed files or does something happen to them? So before, I toss the phone what should I do to play my music without paying for megabits and monthly fees? I really only want the files available when I travel out of the area.... my local alt public supported radio station does a fantastic job curating new music that I can play or stream.
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I've trying to compare features of Jremote2 vs Gizmo with no success (wiki, play store, this forum). Would please direct me to the right place.
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In JRiver for classical albums I have configured an album view, containing Icon and a label with 2 lines. First line containing the composer and second line containing the "work".
See attachment.
The view in JRemote2 and JRemote is different, it combines the orignal two line of the label in just one line.
Please handle line breaks correctly in JRemote.
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As many on here have said, I love JRemote2 and use it all the time.
Just wondering when volume leveling and adaptive volume will be added (and adding songs to playlists from JRemote2 itself, a feature I liked a lot on the original). Also, when the volume stuff is added, is the full set of standard DSP options going to be available or no (like basic--not parametric--EQ, etc.)? Just curious.
Thanks for letting me know!
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[...] What I would expect/desire is for it to stop playing and stay at the track it was on, possibly even remember the point in the song that it was on.
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I just tested, and Jremote2 remembers the current playlist and the track being played, but it starts at the beginning of that track. A settings choice for restart track or continue would be nice. Or maybe a pop-up choice when pressing play again - either play from beginning or current position of the track.
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My one and only feature request for JRemote2 is an option to have the |<| button replay the current playing media/track (e.g. music) instead of the current behavior where it plays the previous track. Right now it's a little annoying trying to replay a track, as you either have to drag the position in the progress bar back to the beginning (which isn't always easy, sometimes you can only get it a few seconds into a track instead the very beginning) or go into the playing now playlist and select the track.
It should work like CD players and some other Android media players do; one press of the |<| button replays the current track, double press goes to the previous track. And if you press the |<| button within the first 5 seconds of a track, it goes to the previous track.
Thoughts?
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I'm trying to create a custom view for JRemote2 using "Recent" as a template. I want to display albums sorted by Date Imported (like the default) but also prepend the Album Artist so that I can search by artist as well (currently the default "recent" view is only limited to searching for album names). Under Media Network>Set Rules For File Display>Audio>Recent, I have edited "Show categories in this order" from "Album" to an expression with "Group By" set to [Album] and "Expression to Display" set to [Album Artist (auto)] - [Album]. Yet this does not appear to change anything in the JRemote2 "Recent" view. I have killed the app and cleared the cache with no effect (only album names are displayed). Any ideas?
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You did restart MC (including service)?
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You did restart MC (including service)?
Thanks, MC just needed a restart. Perhaps it would be better if this could be handled dynamically or at least prompt the user for a restart.
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My one and only feature request for JRemote2 is an option to have the |<| button replay the current playing media/track (e.g. music) instead of the current behavior where it plays the previous track.
Awesome Donkey
Sorry if I'm missing something in your request, but how |<| works is determined by MC rather than JRemote2. In Tools, Options, General, under Behaviour there's 'Previous button', with the options of 'Previous track always', and 'CD player style'. I prefer the Previous track always, which I assume is the default. If I want to replay the track I'd hit Stop, wait a couple of seconds then Play, or else Pause and then move the slider to the start.
I hope this helps.
Martin
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The default as far as I know is CD player style, and that setting in MC doesn't have any effect on remotes as far as I know. It's something that'd have to be supported within the remote itself.
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I know Wiki says that CD player style is the default but that will have been written years ago, and may not have been updated if changed in later versions.
I suggest you check your settings. Using CD player style |<| on my Idpi and JRemote2 on my phone does replay the track. MC on my laptop does the same, but I've only checked it using a mouse. In both cases I couldn't get it to play the previous track by double clicking. However if you can confirm that then it's a problem in MC/Idpi rather than JRemote2.
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I suggest you check your settings. Using CD player style |<| on my Idpi and JRemote2 on my phone does replay the track. MC on my laptop does the same, but I've only checked it using a mouse. In both cases I couldn't get it to play the previous track by double clicking. However if you can confirm that then it's a problem in MC/Idpi rather than JRemote2.
Are you using JRemote2 as a remote to control MC running somewhere like a PC or Pi? If so, yes, it'll work that way.
However, I don't use JRemote2 as a remote to control MC running on a device (in this case would be my Raspberry Pi). I use JRemote2 to stream music from my music library running on my Raspberry Pi MC server to JRemote2 (to the This Device zone) on my phone to listen back to music. So that previous button setting in MC has no effect and would need to be supported within the app itself.
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Yes, I am using JRemote2 to control my Idpi feeding my DAC. I use MC on my laptop for ripping and housekeeping and sync my HD to a SSD for playback.
My use is fairly simple, and to be honest I don't really understand how you use JRemote2. I started my original post with 'Sorry if I'm missing something in your request', because it had seemed so odd coming from you.
I hope you get it sorted.
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My use is fairly simple, and to be honest I don't really understand how you use JRemote2.
I'll try to explain. You can use remote apps (JRemote, JRemote2, Gimzo, Panel, MO 4Media, eos, MC running as a client, etc.) several different ways;
1) They can function as a remote control for a Media Center instance running on a device like a PC, Pi, etc. The instance of MC running on the device being controlled is known as a server. So an example is if you have MC running on a Pi connected to a DAC that outputs music and you control it with JRemote2. This is how most people use remote apps including yourself.
Before I continue, I should explain running MC as a server and running MC as a client. MC servers can connect to other MC instances running on different devices on the same network (you can access it from outside your network but that's a different can of worms). Say you have two PCs and you install MC on the main PC where all your files are. You can install MC on the second PC (and thanks to media network) and you can connect it to your main MC running on your PC and load up your library without needing to re-import everything for example. The second MC connected to the main PC is called a client. In simple terms you can connect a client to the server and a) control the server from the client as a remote control or b) stream media from the server to the client.
2) The second use case of remote apps is streaming media from a MC server to the remote itself (which basically functions as a client) where the media is played back on the device (Android phone in this case) running JRemote2. This is how I mainly use JRemote2, I stream music from my MC server to my phone while I'm outside for example. This works rather well!
JRiver for Android can also function as a client and load the library from a server running on a different device.
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I have set CD player style on my Idpi. Using JRemote2 on my phone as a remote controller it does replay the current track, but if I set it to play to This Device it plays the previous track, as your original post.
Sorry for wasting your time, and thanks for the discussion.
Martin
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A new update for JRemote2 is on its way. It was released on the Play Store minutes ago, and should make its way to everyone's devices soon.
With Media Center 27, we can now make use of a new video streaming mode (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,126801.0.html) both for streaming to the remote (optional, disabled by default for now), and ChromeCast (always on with MC27) which is more reliable and should better recover from network glitches on the move.
Other key improvements include native support for ALAC playback, both from MC itself and CloudPlay, and the addition of system management controls for restart or shutting down the server (requires authentication).
Additionally, the way the playback mode is configured was unified. The option is now always in the "kebab" menu on the top right, with proper labels to identify them, as well as remembering it per-view, which should help with the differences between video (often single file playback) and audio usage (album/playlist playback).
The full changes are listed below!
JRemote 2.2.0 (09/08/2020)
1. Fixed: JRemote2 will properly refresh the CloudPlay login if it expired or becomes invalid.
2. NEW: Support for native ALAC playback.
3. Changed: Moved Play Mode from the action bar to the "kebab" overflow menu, with icons and proper selection list.
4. Changed: Play Mode is saved on a per-view basis similar to the view mode, allowing eg. audio views to default to Play All and video views to Play Single.
5. NEW: Added server system control commands (Shutdown, Restart, Sleep).
6. Changed: Casting to ChromeCast supports longer playlists.
7. NEW: Improved video streaming to ChromeCast with Media Center 27.
8. NEW: Optional HLS video streaming when playing locally for more reliable playback (requires Media Center 27).
9. Changed: In local playback, the "Previous" button behaves in a CD-player style, returning to the beginning of the track on a single click, and to the previous track on double click or when near the beginning.
10. Changed: Increased the height of the video seekbar touch area for better control.
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9. Changed: In local playback, the "Previous" button behaves in a CD-player style, returning to the beginning of the track on a single click, and to the previous track on double click or when near the beginning.
Thank you very much! JRemote2 is now perfect! :)
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Just bought the JRemote2, much more polished than gizmo and android jriver. Now I am looking for cheap 7inch android tablet. ;D
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Thank you very much! JRemote2 is now perfect! :)
Still lacks a few simple fixes:
- title in Playing Now view doesn't scroll, so long titles are simply truncated. Affects virtually all classical music.
- Metadata view still includes a few otherwise useless tags, such as Audio Analysis Info (not sure about Waveform because I always delete those, as they were making a huge mess in the Metadata view)
- Tag names are incomplete, so you get for example two consecutive tags named "Date", with one having a value like 39448 while the next will be 2008.
One feature that the iOS version has (or maybe had, haven't used the latest release) is the ability to view extras (such as PDF booklets) . Mo4Media can do it.
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- title in Playing Now view doesn't scroll, so long titles are simply truncated. Affects virtually all classical music.
That was tried, it just looks weird. I'm open to ideas how to improve the experience with classical music, but these long titles really screw with the layout.
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The title does scroll in the Album view though. So you can read the whole thing when selecting Albums to play. (Please don't change that Hendrik!)
The other comments are fair. JRemote2 still has a lot to be done.
Theatre View remote control? That is still on the list I hope.
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Theatre View remote control? That is still on the list I hope.
That was added a long time ago now. :)
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That was added a long time ago now. :)
You know I thought it was. I even thought I remembered using it. But then I looked for it and couldn't find it anywhere.
On my phone it is behind the Device selection button, which is opaque, and as it has a line between the System item and what's below, I just didn't think to scroll down on the flyout menu. Doh!
It works really well. Nice and fast. Obviously based on how the Gizmo Theatre View Remote Control worked, with some improvements.
Thanks Hendrik. :D
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Hello, I purchased JRemote2 for use on an android table. While the interface is certainly better than Gizmo, I’ve had some issues that make me revert back to using Gizmo.
The issues I’m having are:
1. If I playing a selection from an album, it stops after that song was played and not advance to the next. Gizmo will play the whole album through.
2. If I use Gizmo, I can also use my Harmony remote to pause, skip or FF/RW. JRemote2 will not let me skip forward.
I’ve had this problem using both MC26 and MC27 and I also have the lasted update of JRemote2. If I’m missing a setting somewhere, I hope I can correct it.
Thanks, Jamie
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1. Set the "Play Mode" to "Play all now". The setting is under the three-dot menu in the top right corner of JRemote2, in the current Beta version. It was an icon at the top of JRemote2 in earlier versions. Then if you open an Album and tap the Play icon in the top section, the whole Album will be played. If you tap one Track in the Album, the Tracks will be played from that point on.
2. All those functions still work for me using my Harmony remote. That is a function of the MC installation you are playing to, not Gizmo or JRemote2. I just checked by using JRemote2 to play to my HTPC, outputting to my AVR and main speakers. I assume you are playing in a similar way.
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Thank you for replying.
I could not find a three dot menu in the top right corner but I did have an icon that was a 1 with a “play” symbol (play now) behind it. Tapping on that did bring up the menu you suggested and I was able to select “Play all now”. Everything works as it should.
Thanks again.
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Oh yeah, I'm running the Beta version, in which the Play Mode setting has been moved. The Beta version is 2.2.0. You would be on an earlier version.
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2.2.0 has been available for everyone for a while already now.
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Is there any chance of Custom Views being supported in JRemote. I mean just mirroring the custom views already set up in the main application.
I created one which just lists my Multichannel Music (of which I have a lot) and there is no way to view it simply in the Android app.
Thanks for considering.
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Custom Views are created for JRemote via "Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for JRemote, Gizmo, & Panel".
They are separate to Standard View, Theatre View, and DLNA Server Views. That is, MC has four different sets of Views, and each has its own View definition functionality.
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Hi all.....Have a question related to JRemote 2 for Android. I have just purchased this program from Play Store switching from JRemote for IPad - after I decided to make a change.... Was very happy with the way JRemote for IPad worked & had no problems at all. I have MC27 on a Windows PC - while my library is on a Melco NAS. With IPad and JRiver remote, I was able to save a song to a predefined playlist and play this list on my devices. However, I am not able to do this with JRemote for Android. Pressing and holding on a song while it is playing, you do get the option to add to a playlist - but it is not known which playlist - nor you get the options of several playlists o choose from. It is not known to me where this playlist is and where to find it. Maybe I am doing something wrong - so kindly support. Thank you.
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I might be wrong (Hendrik would have to correct me if I am), but I don't think the full playlist/editing capabilities are supported yet. It's listed on the coming soon list located here (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.0.html).
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Hi Hendrick, hi all!
I have been looking a feature around the forum to see if someone has talked about it, but I haven't foun nothing about (sorry if I'm wrong).
The feature is the following: I use Jremote2 to conect to my MC27 with all my music files when I'm out of my home via Internet with my mobile phone.
It works perfectly fine with a 4G+ connection, also with 192/24 FLAC files.
The thing is that, when I arrive home, i would like to continue lisening the same song I was lisening in the mobile phone (this device) in the MC27 Reproductor, ie, my HiFi set.
But, when I change in JRemote 2 from This device to Reproductor, I don't continue lisening the song I was lisening in my mobile, but instead the last song that was played in the Reproductor of MC27.
There is any way to use Joremote2 to have this continuous listening from my mobile to my HiFi set?
If not, could you consider this feature in future versions?
Thanks a lot, Manuel.
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There is any way to use Joremote2 to have this continuous listening from my mobile to my HiFi set?
Not at this time. It could be difficult to do that because of the way MC uses Zones. Particularly as JRemote2 isn't a Zone for your MC Server, in the same way other Zones are.
Probably the best that could be achieved would be to save Playing Now in JRemote2 as a Playlist, and then start playing that Playlist on your Hi-Fi. Even that would probably start again from the beginning of Playing Now.
Maybe Hendrik can work some magic.
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I recently used JRemote2 as a theater view remote. It looks much like Gizmo, but it doesn't tell me how to use it EVERY TIME I open it, like Gizmo does; which I love. I suggest Gizmo doesn't need to tell me every time I open it. JRemote2 seems to work virtually the same as Gizmo otherwise, but JRemote doesn't actually control volume with device hardware buttons, like Gizmo does. Could that be fixed?
Also, could it (optionally) keep the playing now from one session to another. Having to navigate to start a playlist every time I open it isn't as nice as having it just open to the playlist when I open JRemote.
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Couple more issues.
Smartlists don't seem to reliably refresh unless JRemote is closed and re-opened.
Best way to reproduce this is with a completely random list that generates when it's loaded.
The one that's definitely bust here is image only if that makes a difference.
When viewing an images playlist in landscape mode, they're all squashed into the left half of the screen with the player controls on the right.
Oddly, it doesn't do this in portrait & images are centered within the player controls as I'd expect.
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Couple more:
I can't see a way to start a timed image slideshow.
When viewing a file's tags with the Info button, the date is not shown correctly.
Looks like it's showing the raw epoch value as opposed to the nicely formatted variety.
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A quick search shows some issues with JRemote and Smartlists but I didn't see this: When selecting a large Smartlist in Jremote2 it never loads.
This is using a Pixel 3.
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Is it possible to install jremote2 on google chrome with google tv?
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JRemote2 doesn't support Android TV/Google TV.
JRiver for Android does support it (so does Panel which JRiver for Android uses as its UI), but your results with it may vary. MO 4Media also supports Android TV but it'll work a little different than JRemote2 does.
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Glad to read you dig it so much mate.i considered remote from playstore for my cell,but reviews rate it as crap.i would really prefer a trial period to be sure it is for me(i think play store only has 1st JRemote?)
i would like a trial because Gizmo is so near perfect.Only short is i cannot browse my PC disks by audio,only video.
Even a good video of Jremote2 would rokk
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PS Is this or Gizmo available for windows?
i would love to use either on my larger windows tablet
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Nope, they're not. Using Media Center as a client on the tablet or using Panel in a web browser are probably your only options. I believe there was a build of MO 4Media which ran as a universal Windows 10 app, but it's not available in the Microsoft Store (so you have to manually install it) and I don't believe it's been updated in a long time.
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No, but Panel would work on Windows. Or you can use MC as a remote (Tremote).
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes
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I'd honestly recommend ignoring most of the reviews for JRemote2 on the Play Store, many of the criticisms either don't apply anymore or are related to misconfigured settings or things like that.
My personal opinion is, JRemote2 is better than Gizmo. It supports things like gapless playback with FLAC files, which Gizmo can't do. Also it's much, much faster than Gizmo with navigation and everything. Plus the interface is much better.
It's worth noting to anyone interested in trying JRemote2 but don't like the idea of purchasing the app without a free trial available keep in mind you can purchase JRemote2 on the Play Store but the Play Store will give you two hours to trial purchased apps and anytime within that time period you can request a refund from them. If you go through route, it's best to immediately do your testing so you can take advantage of that time frame for a refund. Also keep in mind JRiver has no control over refunds or anything like that, only Google does on the Play Store.
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WOW
What a great reply. Very informed
i may be able to do that tonight after my grand weans go home,as they need my attention here
So before i did that 2 hour trial on Jremote2,can you please verify that it is
1.Just as easy to setup (In JRiver?) as Gizmo was. Man it was easy for me,a simpleton lol
2.That it has all the access search and browse options that Gizmo has,BUT with not only browse by disk for video,BUT also browse by disk for audio?
What an odd thing to leave out of a near perfect app.i would not even likely be here if Gizmo added that one option
3.It has been a while since i have purchased on playstore,i will need to look up my passwords etc.Plz tell me what and how the refund works? Who how and where do i make that contact?
4.Are there videos or at least screens of JRemote in action?
Cheers mate
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So... now that this big update is out - can I ask, (pretty please) to add Windows shutdown function?
That would allow for turning my MC 26 Windows PC into a totally headless server, getting rid of the Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse!
Thanks, and happy Easter ;-)
I ran across this, looking for ways to do it headless.
Win 10 may have options for setting power button behavior; Linux does. I have MC 26 on an Intel NUC running Ubuntu 16.04, and Ubuntu is now set to shutdown on the push of the power switch. The Intel BIOS is set to go to S5 rather than the default S3 suspend. This particular unit can't do wake-on-wireless anyway.
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i use Gizmo and am fairly happy with it,almost perfect
The one thing it does not seem to do is browse/search by disk for audio.It does for video,but not audio.That seems odd
i would buy Jremote2 if it did all Gizmo did and allowed search/browseby disk.
Does it?
Does it also show cover art while playing now etc as Gizmo does?
Cheers
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I ran across this, looking for ways to do it headless.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Relmtech.RemotePaid&hl=en_US&gl=US
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Good day
i have under 2 hours now to refund this app and i need assistance if possible
2 disappointments is i can only browse by disk under videos like Gizmo(Which is Gizmos only fault)
But worse yet is it does not play through my stereo like gizmo does,unless i am doing something wrong? It plays thru my cell,which is useless to me
PS in settings i also notice it uses MP3 only and says that mp3 320 is high quality
Again if so this app is not for me.But i may be missing something under this less than 2 hour dead line.
Please advise
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You can set the playback destination to Player in the menu. Swipe from the left.
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You can set the playback destination to Player in the menu. Swipe from the left.
Sorry mate will edit that
i found the setting and now play via my stereo(If i ever wanted to play via cell,that is a bonus over gizmo which does not d that.i doubt it,but its an option)
The art display is beautiful the way i can adjust size ettc
Now can i search and browse by disk under audio as well as video?
Browsing my drives is a serious feature i would love.Why dont we get that in either Gizmo or Jremote2.It is worth a extra few dollars IMHO for the way i organize my drives.i like to see the folders as i organize the Ie By vinyl rips,or CDs or SACD etyc
Cheers
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Browsing my drives is a serious feature i would love.Why dont we get that in either Gizmo or Jremote2.It is worth a extra few dollars IMHO for the way i organize my drives.i like to see the folders as i organize the Ie By vinyl rips,or CDs or SACD etyc
Please consider using tags to structure your library. You can fill the tags from your file structure. See the Library Tools topic on our wiki. Fill Tags from File Properties.
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Yeah, don't think you can browse by drives. Browsing via metadata tags works so much better anyways.
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Is there any chance we'll get an option to not convert lossy files when Use native audio format is turned off?
Also, would it be possible for JR2 to respect track links? I notice that it doesn't when shuffling.
Also also, would it be possible to implement a "System default" option under Theme?
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Yeah, don't think you can browse by drives. Browsing via metadata tags works so much better anyways.
Thanks mate for a reply
How does one browse by metadata?
i accidentally discovered if i browse by artist/album etc i can hold on a song and get a few options.One being metadata.i was pleased to see in there i can view folder/drive infos.But that is a slow tedious process i have to do for each file,one at a time then deciding is that the file/folder/HDD i want
Are you saying i can search/browse by metadata in a more efficient way? i am discovering things as i go along,and may have missed this.
Why is it we can browse videos by disk(Also on gizmo),but not audio? That option would be the deciding factor on which app to choose.
I will explain why i need this,and it sounds like you can advise me on this
On my many HDDs i have folders and sub folders.All arranged by
1.Media type(Ie SACD/Vinyl rips/CDs.Ie SACD folders are named SACD,Vinyls are named Vinyls etc
2.Within those folders are the bands artists.
What browsing by disk would allow me to do would be to choose 1st the medium Ie CD or sacd i am in the mood for.Now once i find the artist i want i know i can click for metadata,but that is a tedious process one file at a time.i think i may be missing a more expedient way to do it?
i would pay a few extra dollars to get the browse by disk option in audio.Is there a tech reason we or gizmo only have it under "Video"? i cannot imagine there is
Is there a "Features wish list" in progress for JRiver or Gizmo they have access to?
i appreciate your valued time mate
Cheers
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When i have a folder open and can see all the songs there is an option in upper right corner with 3 downward dots.i click on that and am faced with some pleasing options
Ie: Cast and search and playmode
Playmode is the one i want but none work.Neither play now,nor play next,nor Append to "Now playing" list,nor play all now,play all next nor add all to now playing.
Clicking on any of those has no result.
If i try tis outside that folder,in the single root folder that holds all those files,and click play now,play next etc,it will only play one track from all the tracks in that folder
Is there some other setting or step i need to take 1st?
Are these all errors JRiver is aware of and working on?
My guess is i am missing a step because i feel those options would not be there and not work,and i am alone in their failures?
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When i have a folder open and can see all the songs there is an option in upper right corner with 3 downward dots.i click on that and am faced with some pleasing options
Ie: Cast and search and playmode
Playmode is the one i want but none work.Neither play now,nor play next,nor Append to "Now playing" list,nor play all now,play all next nor add all to now playing.
Clicking on any of those has no result.
If i try tis outside that folder,in the single root folder that holds all those files,and click play now,play next etc,it will only play one track from all the tracks in that folder
Is there some other setting or step i need to take 1st?
Are these all errors JRiver is aware of and working on?
My guess is i am missing a step because i feel those options would not be there and not work,and i am alone in their failures?
Can i please bump my last 2 posts to see if anyone can answer them please?
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I think one reason why people aren't replying is that they're unsure whether you are actually using JRiver Media Center. Your questions about searching through folders and files on your drives is quite alien to a user of JRiver MC, which does all that for you. I find all of my music using its genre, leading to the artists, then albums. You don't need to tell it where to look, you set that up when you first import the files into MC. If you do have MC, why aren't you using it? You've done the time consuming part - ripping or downloading, and the rest is easy in MC. Note that JRemote2 in Google Play Store says 'Remote Control & Remote Streamer for JRiver Media Center (required)'. Good luck.
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I think one reason why people aren't replying is that they're unsure whether you are actually using JRiver Media Center. Your questions about searching through folders and files on your drives is quite alien to a user of JRiver MC, which does all that for you. I find all of my music using its genre, leading to the artists, then albums. You don't need to tell it where to look, you set that up when you first import the files into MC. If you do have MC, why aren't you using it? You've done the time consuming part - ripping or downloading, and the rest is easy in MC. Note that JRemote2 in Google Play Store says 'Remote Control & Remote Streamer for JRiver Media Center (required)'. Good luck.
Yes i am using MC on my Windows 10 desktop,but this is the 1st time i have ever tried to do anything other than just drop a file from one of my folders on my PC to MC and play it.i guess you may say i have always used MC but worked outside it?i have never really dove too deep into the very deep program.
i have obv. not been doing a good enough job explaining what i want to do. My apologies. i will try again.
" I find all of my music using its genre, leading to the artists, then albums"
Yes that i get,i can do that as well. But i would also like to browse my HDD folders from inside MC in the way Jremote2/Gizmo allow me to. But they only browse by DISK for video for some reason.
i need to browse this way because i don`t choose music by genre/artist etc,i choose it by IE cassette/CD etc.That is how everything is setup on my HDDs
Jremote2 and Gizmo were a simpletons intuitive breeze to setup.If the would only browse my HDD folders by audio as they do video,well i would not be here
i think within JRiver MC i can browse by HDD folders attached to my MC library? Not sure where tho or how?
My apologies for not being able to explain clear enough
Cheers
Ie i have a drive H:/ and a drive I:/ etc filled with audio only
When i think of an album i want to hear i usually think in terms of do i "Do i want to hear my cassette rips or my CD or my vinyl rips.So on each drive my folders are organized by IE
Cassettes:/Artist/Name of LP.
If those were only videos in Jremote2/Gizmo i could browse by DISK inside the app as if it was a windows folder(S).
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You should be able to do what you want with Smartlists.
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlists
Make a Smartlist of cassette, vinyl, whatever. Then in Jremote2 go to Playlists and select your desired list.
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You should be able to do what you want with Smartlists.
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlists
Make a Smartlist of cassette, vinyl, whatever. Then in Jremote2 go to Playlists and select your desired list.
Cheers mate
i will try that
i have some good news
i borrowed my grandsons old samsung tablet(4)
i DL gizmo and Jremote2(Nice JRemote 2 allows another install)
Gizmo flies fine and dandy,but 1 glitch with Jremote2,honestly my preferred app by a little bit
The add a server is different than on my newer samsung Galaxy S20 ultra cell.
i enter access key correct(Same one in gizmo) but i get access key lookup failed whether i have use secure connection on or off.
The difference i see in setup on this Jremote2 install is it asks for username and password,i did not see that on my samsung fone setup.
Is the lack of username and password why i get access key lookup failed?
Cheers
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PS same error if i try to connect by IP
Again i am asked for a user name and password,of which i have no idea.i ve never set one in my memory
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Typo in Access Key?
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Typo in Access Key?
Nope def. not,i checked checked and checked again and again
Same key used in Gizmo mate
Do the prompts for user name and password effect anything? i don`t remember seeing that when set up on my cell phone
Cheers
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It appears the access key is correct(It is),but i have no user name or password to enter.Because after i type in access key it goes right to asking for user name.i cant enter one so i hit connect that is when it fails
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Check the access control settings in Media Center in Options -> Media Network, maybe username/password got turned on for Read-only access even.
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Check the access control settings in Media Center in Options -> Media Network, maybe username/password got turned on for Read-only access even.
Cheers mate that one had me chuffed, but alas i am set for everyone. Jremote2 works on my smaller screen cell phone as does gizmo w/out authentication. Gizmo also works on this tablet w/out authentication. But not Jremote2. It asks for authentication whether i have it set on or off and it still fails a connection.
i even tried to connect with IP address, Same fail
The tablet in question is Samsung Galaxy Tab 4-SM-T23ONU
Are there known issues with this tablet? My S 20 ultra works fine with Jremote2,but the screen is way too small for my poor eyesight
Cheers for your fine assistance
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You may be connecting to another version of MC, not the one you think you are.
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You may be connecting to another version of MC, not the one you think you are.
There you had another brilliant idea mate.i may have not uninstalled an older version before installing this one.i forgot JRiver allows more than 1 version on one HDD
in fact a message popped up today on my pc,not tablet,that said i was connected to another version
How do i suss this out to correct it?
BUT why would my Samsung cell with gizmo and JRemote 2,and on my samsung tablet with Gizmo,they all connect correctly
i look forward to more mate
Cheers
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You may be connecting to another version of MC, not the one you think you are.
i checked add/remove progs in win 10.Only the 1 version shows there tho.UGH
Is there a way to force JRemote 2 to find a server? i just noticed it has add server,but no servers named or to search for.It justs asked for access key and user name and password.Gizmo names the servers available
JRemote 2 asks to choose a server and even allows me to edit it or add another server
No such option on my tablet with Jremote2
We may have sussed what the problem is,but no way to fix it UGH
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Yes, these forums are read by JRiver's CEO (Jim) and JRiver's developers.
This is the topic to report bugs/issues with JRemote2. Do keep in mind there's a known list of known issues/missing features that can be found here that should be referred to first before posting: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.0.html
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Yes, these forums are read by JRiver's CEO (Jim) and JRiver's developers.
This is the topic to report bugs/issues with JRemote2. Do keep in mind there's a known list of known issues/missing features that can be found here that should be referred to first before posting: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.0.html
Cheers mate
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Hi All,
I've been using JRemote (original version 1) for years, and I just noticed there is Jremote2 which I believe improved.
I couldn't see the JRemote (original version 1) in Play Store, but there is another 'JRiver for Android'. Is it the new name for JRemote (original version 1)?
I guess this needs to be another purchase in Play Store even if I have purchased JRemote (original version 1)? Can I have both remote installed? Is Jremote2 applicable for multiple devices?
Thx
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Hi All,
I've been using JRemote (original version 1) for years, and I just noticed there is Jremote2 which I believe improved.
I couldn't see the JRemote (original version 1) in Play Store, but there is another 'JRiver for Android'. Is it the new name for JRemote (original version 1)?
I guess this needs to be another purchase in Play Store even if I have purchased JRemote (original version 1)? Can I have both remote installed? Is Jremote2 applicable for multiple devices?
Thx
i believe it is a new purchase.
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It's a separate purchase. JRiver for Android is different. Please read the descriptions on the Play Store.
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Thx guys, I assume JRemote2 is JRemote replacement in Play Store.
If I download JRemote2, can I still keep JRemote to use?
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Yes you can (as long as you previously purchased JRemote, as it's no longer for sale), JRemote and JRemote2 are separate apps.
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Good eve
My wish list for a while has been to browse by folder view/Disk location in either Jremote2 or Gizmo.These 2 progs are neck and neck IMHO
In both jremote2 and gizmo that seems possible only with video and images. Why is that?
i was excited to read this quoted article from 2017 from the 1st JRemote.And then you could do exactly that.Is there still a way to browse this way in either Jremote2 or Gizmo?
Tonight after a few years i finally sussed how to browse this way in MC lol
Here is the quote.i tried to reply there,but was advised as the article is so old i should start a new thread
"Re: How to customize Audio view ¨By Folder¨
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 01:23:13 pm »
ReplyQuote
Quote from: franko on August 08, 2017, 12:20:55 pm
Thanks Ken, It works. How to do it on JRemote - or is this a question for JRemote forum?
For JRemote views, you go Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for JRemote, Gizmo & WebGizmo. You can add the view you created in Standard View by clicking Add > Library Item From Standard View."
Cheers
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Is there any chance we'll get an option to not convert lossy files when Use native audio format is turned off?
Also, would it be possible for JR2 to respect track links? I notice that it doesn't when shuffling.
Also also, would it be possible to implement a "System default" option under Theme?
Any thoughts?
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Jremote2 won't load my Smartlists that have a lot of tracks. The list I am trying to load has 5700 tracks. I have gotten around this by making a Smartlist with the same rules limited to 100 tracks. Is this normal?
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If a playlist is way too long, it'll run into trouble. There are ways around such problem, for example if you want it for playing tracks randomly, would recommend making MC produce a list thats a limited random selection out of that set.
We have already improved the length of playlists it can reliable open if you use it with MC27 (its evne more limited with older MC versions).
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JRemote 2 Function: "Artist Bio" is not implemented
« on: May 03, 2020, 11:05:22 am »
Hello
Why is the "Artist Bio" function in JRemote2 version 2.0.9 not implemented ?
It works excellent in the old JRemote version 21.0.2 and its helpful additional and excellent information of the Artist.
Thanks
Kurt
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Do I need to upgrade to 27 in order to use the new Jremote2 app?
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Do I need to upgrade to 27 in order to use the new Jremote2 app?
No.
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Much appreciated. Have a good day !
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A new update for JRemote2 is on its way. It was released on the Play Store minutes ago, and should make its way to everyone's devices soon. To the Open Beta first, and the release channel a bit later.
As announced end of last year, this update adds the ability to select the audio and subtitle language when streaming video to your phone!
This feature requires Media Center 27.0.61 and HLS Video Streaming to be used - which is now the default for video, since its proven to be quite reliable and fast.
We're also introducing a new MCWS Video Streaming API in Media Center 27 to more easily offer better streaming features, and as a first step this now makes JRemote2 stream video in "AutoFPS" mode, and no longer converts all video to 30 fps, for a higher quality viewing experience!
Further updates to JRemote2 will be coming shortly adding support for bookmarks and more, stay tuned!
JRemote 2.3.0 (02/04/2021)
1. NEW: Selecting the audio/subtitle language during video playback on JRemote2 (requires Media Center 27.0.61 or newer)
2. Changed: HLS Video Streaming is enabled by default.
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Exciting news
My only other wish is to be able to browse by DISK location and i am all good
Cheers on the heads up mate
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You can setup views to represent your file layout by using the "Location" grouping type, which makes it rather similar to exploring by disk. Although it'll currently skip folders with only one entry in them, which is not perfect for folder-based navigation, but it should still work mostly fine as you get the meaningful choices anyway.
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Cheers for that mate
i have googled this and come up short and it went way over my head
Can you or someone please advise on how to do this "Location" grouping type.
Is this buried in settings? i cannot find it
Is there a step by step?
Cheers
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Not sure if this is the correct place to post this.
I am on the latest Beta version that was pushed this morning 2/5/21 2.3.0 and landscape view no longer works. When I play a song in portrait mode and then turn to landscape mode, it doesn't show the correct song and all the controls no longer work. Once I switch back to portrait, everything is working again.
I run jremote2 from a tablet which is always in landscape mode.
Is there another Beta to download that fixes this? What should I do?
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JRemote 2.3.0 (02/04/2021)
1. NEW: Selecting the audio/subtitle language during video playback on JRemote2 (requires Media Center 27.0.61 or newer)
2. Changed: HLS Video Streaming is enabled by default.
Thanks Hendrik, this is great! Any chance same feature could be taken into use for MC client also when watching re-encoded streams? I mean selecting subtitles/audio.
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Nice update. The Video Quality is very usable now even on a big screen. Did some testing and the on the fly conversion and streaming works well for me to both on an Andriod Phone and to a larger TV using a Google TV Dongle.
A couple of things:
- Sent some crash reports when "casting" to a Google TV. JRemote would hand off the stream, but would then crash as soon as that stream would start playing on the TV. It would also crash again if you tried to restart JRemote when the TV was still playing the stream. You have to stop the TV playing the stream then JRemote could start
- The ability to pick Streams is great, and even better it is picking the "good" sub stream automatically
- Is it possible to pick a Multi Channel Audio encoding for Video (I think I'm getting 2.0 on everything)?
- Is it possible to run JRemote 2 as a Google TV App?
Thanks
Nathan
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This update is so good, it is getting to the point where I could swap my lowly Intel NUC's for devices like an NVidia Shield, Chromecast with Google TV, (or even TV's with built in Android App support) for those TV's where you just need a "good enough" vs "best possible" quality.
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Is there a solution/fix for the landscape view not working?
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There will be a small update shortly that fixes the landscape issue.
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Does anyone know how to do this(In settings?) as Hendrik advised me
"You can setup views to represent your file layout by using the "Location" grouping type, which makes it rather similar to exploring by disk. Although it'll currently skip folders with only one entry in them, which is not perfect for folder-based navigation, but it should still work mostly fine as you get the meaningful choices anyway."
i have been all through the settings and see no way/options like that
Cheers
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You do it in Media Center under Media Center's Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for JRemote, Gizmo & Panel...
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Cheers for that
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Thank you Hendrik.
The update came through and landscape is working again. Thank you
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You do it in Media Center under Media Center's Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for JRemote, Gizmo & Panel...
Cheers for that mate
It appears DISK is precluded from any such options in those MC settings under audio.i can set it to browse DISK for video/images etc
Very frustrating. Can someone explain why that it is not a possible option for some technical limitation to browse AUDIO by DISK like we can video and images?
This would put Jremote2 OTT if they could do that
Will you/they add that option if enough folks want it?
Cheers
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I find JRemote to be a great addition to MC, but have a request:
1- a Desktop Widget for my Android device desktop
2- a 'kill switch' to shut down my PC when the Sleep Timer runs out.
I do not know what it would take to make that happen, but if it is not much trouble I for one would appreciate it.
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I would like to try the JRemote2 for a day, but couldn't find a trial. Is there a free trial for JRemote2?
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No, there isn't.
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Google allows you to use an app for an hour or so, then uninstall it to get a refund. Try searching on their site for the specifics.
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I think it's still two hours currently. So if you're going to trial it that way make sure you immediately start using JRemote2 otherwise after two hours a refund won't be possible anymore.
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I don't see in the Play Store any update beyond Version 2.2.0 which I installed on 8 Sept 2020. It says I'm up to date. I'm in Australia.
Add (15 March 2021): Thanks for fixing that. Latest version just appeared.
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When using the remote2 app is it possible to have controls on the device lock screen?
Pause, play, stop, next track, last track
Would save unlocking the device to skip an audio track.
Chris
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I use JRemote2 (Android) all the time. I play, mostly classical, music off my HTPC to my main listening area. JRemote2 lets me select albums, tracks, etc from my phone. While listening to music, I often want to check the track's tags. When I select (i) to bring up metadata I get a lot of useless fields (for instance several Date fields). There are several important tags (some of them I created) that I would like to look at but they are not there. I cannot find a way of selecting which tags I want displayed in JRemote2.
Any way to do this?
Thanks...Marcus
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I've only just discovered Theatre View and the Remote feature for it on the app and it's awesome. The more I look into the features of MC the more wonders I find. So easy to use - just swipe up/down/left/right long hold etc. and the TV shows what music is playing on the hi-fi and I don't have to keep reaching for reading glasses to see the phone! :)
I'd like to know how I can stop the little feedback vibration from the phone when swiping though. I can't seem to find a way of turning that off in the settings anywhere.
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This is a nice app and continues to improve - thanks for the work on this.
One thing that I've noticed is that I cannot close the app and clear it from the notification bar unless I clear the playlist. Even using the android recent apps button and swiping up on the JRemote does not close it.
Unless I clear the playlist, I have to resort to going into the app info and choosing "Force Stop".
Perhaps could you consider an app close function, give it a button on the menu in the UI, and also make a swipe-left on the notification bar close it?
Thanks again for the ongoing work developing such a nice app for JRiver.
Ari
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JRemote2 is one of the best phone apps I've ever run. 6 stars out of 5!
I've searched this thread for 'chapters', apologies if it's already been asked.
Is it, or would it be, possible for JRemote2 to support jumping to chapters in an MKV? My concert videos all have chapter names spelled out for each song, it would be awesome to go directly to them!
Thanks in advance
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Hi. How do I move JRemote2 to my new Android phone from the old one it is installed on? I go to Google.Play, it shows I have it installed (and congratulates me on being a beta tester), it says the app is compatible with the new phone, but when I try to install it it says "no eligible devices for app install". Can you help?
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Are you trying from a computer or the new device?
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Doh! Many thanks, I have it on my new phone now. Thanks rec head.
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Doh! Many thanks, I have it on my new phone now. Thanks rec head.
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Would it be possible to add a "Match system settings" option to Theme?
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Purchased today, uninstalled, got refund.
JRemote2 was able to cast an album to Chromecast Audio device, which played all the way through. That's the good news, and an improvement over original JRemote for Android.
The bad news: App crashed immediately or within about a minute of every relaunch, while casting. Phone reboot didn't help. Started to cast another album, playback started, and app crashed immediately. Chromecast continues to play. JRemote2 shows time elapsed/remaining in track, but reports nothing is playing and an empty playlist, before it quickly crashes.
I would happily buy the app again if this issue can be resolved. JRemote2 otherwise would be a nice update to control MC server.
But JRemote2 has a serious problem on my setup in relation to Chromecast. Would it matter that MC server is not on the same network segment as the Chromecast? Phone is Samsung Galaxy S7.
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G'day from DownUnder!
I'm starting to really like JRemote2 for Android! I have been a long time Gizmo user, and I think now JRemote is at a level where I will stop using Gizmo in favour of it.
I use my Media Center apps often in my vehicle to stream my music collection to my vehicle's audio system (as I'm sure many would do).
I just purchased a new vehicle which has Android Auto, and noticed some very strange behaviour with JRemote2.
The phone (A Nokia 8 / Android 9) is connected to the Android Auto head unit via USB cable. Via Gizmo, I can stream audio and play it via the head unit without any issues.
If I then exit Gizmo, and fire up JRemote, start streaming a song, I can see that it appears to be playing, but no audio comes out of the head unit. If I then stop, and exit JRemote, and start Gizmo up again, and start playing a track, BOTH Gizmo and JRemote audio starts playing simultaneously!
Is there any chance that JRemote may support Android Auto in the future? It would make the in-vehicle experience so much better!
Loving the products that you guys produce (ie. MediaCenter 26 and JRemote is pretty hard to beat)!
Best wishes for everyone's health and welbeing during the "current situation".
UPDATE
I just realised I had the 'MO 4Media' app installed on my phone, so I'm giving that a try - supports Android Auto...
Same here. I would purchase JRemote2 instantly if it supported Android Auto, otherwise have no use for it. There must be a sizeable user base with a similar use case waiting in the wings.
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Anyway to set the app to "this device only". I don't ever want it to control devices in the home, but just to the phone.
Reason being there has been a couple times where I was away from home and the app likes to set back to my living
room for some reason. The volume was maxed out and it started playing on the house speakers while my wife was sitting
there with the baby and toddler. Needless to say she wasn't happy, and then it happened again. :D
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Does the Android remote show the resolution of the music playing?
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If you mean bit-depth and sample rate, yes it does, on the bottom right of the now playing window.
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Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere. Should JRemote2 be able to run on a NVidia Shield? I just bought a 4K TV Pro and I am told 'JRemote by JRiver isn't available on Google Play on this device'.
My aim with the Shield is to remove the need for wifie to swap between the Smart TV and the PC that runs JRiver.
Thanks,
Steve
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Nope, it doesn't support Android TV.
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Nope, it doesn't support Android TV.
JRiver for Android does though.
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Thanks both. I have installed both JRiver for Android and Craig's MO 4Media. Both seem to work although I havent played much.
I will continue to run JRiver on my HTPC.
Given that I know absolutely ZIP about the capabilities of JRiver for Android, what are the pros/cons for playback via JRiver for Android on the Shield vs streaming the audio/video to the Shield from the HTPC. I use DSP and loudness functions on the HTPC and would like to retain both of those if possible when playing back through the Shield.
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Is there not an option in JRemote to save tracks for offline listening. I was surprised not to easily find an option, maybe I missed it. Spending a day on airplanes this would be a really useful feature.
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Nope, there isn't a feature for offline listening. As far as I know the only remote that can do that at the moment is MO 4Media.
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Nope, there isn't a feature for offline listening. As far as I know the only remote that can do that at the moment is MO 4Media.
Gizmo has a cache. When you start playback on your LAN, it can download.
JRiver for Android can play files from the phone.
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Any plans to implement? I see some pretty old threads asking so I assume there's a reason it hasn't been.
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Is the bookmark feature available with this app? Have things setup according to the wiki but the files just start from the beginning.
Also in "recents" I don't see anything that I listen to on the app. Seems to only be albums and not single tracks maybe?
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Is playlist functionality still work in progress?
Thanks
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Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere. Should JRemote2 be able to run on a NVidia Shield? I just bought a 4K TV Pro and I am told 'JRemote by JRiver isn't available on Google Play on this device'.
My aim with the Shield is to remove the need for wifie to swap between the Smart TV and the PC that runs JRiver.
Thanks,
Steve
It may not be supported, but I've sideloaded the apk and it's "working" on my AndroidTV device. At least, well enough to appreciate the hi res streaming from my server...
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I have created a bunch of different audio library views for various different listening purposes but I can't see any of them on the remote, is this by design? Any plan to implement the ability to see customisation from the client in the remote?
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So wish the playlist would function correctly.. I want to add files to a playlist using JRemote.. I cant even create a new playlist
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So wish the playlist would function correctly.. I want to add files to a playlist using JRemote.. I cant even create a new playlist
You may prefer using Panel (https://jriver.com/panel.html) for more library editing functions on mobile.
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Is it just me or can I not turn off video conversion in JRemote2? I can turn off HLS VOD video, but then I still see conversion in the network activity log (Conversion=Android).
Same for audio, my Samsung Galaxy A51 for example can play wma, but JRemote2 is converting anyway. I wonder how JRemote2 determines support of a particular format?
I recently purchased a portable projector with Android TV on it, which made think about the best way to get content to it. And I ended up purchasing MO 4Media's app which supports ATV out of the box. I'm pleasantly surprised at how many options it has (to control conversion for all kinds of scenarios such as wi-fi/mobile data/casting), compared to JRemote2. I guess I'm spoiled by the many options MC itself has, I was expecting it from JRemote2 too. ;)
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Is Jremote2 still in devlopmemt? Wanted to know if Replaygain was planned in the future.
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JRemote2 is generally quite usable, but could do with some new Audio features in regards to Chromecast:
When selecting a specific Zone, but streaming to a Chromecast instead, it would be very useful if Zone associated DSP was applied to the stream being sent to the Chromecast.
As it is, there's no way to apply DSP to Chromecast input unless I use a DLNA client which happens to support Google Cast. Ex. in BubbleUPnP, I can select a JRiver DLNA library and stream to a Chromecast with that library's associated DSP applied. It's unfortunate that the developer's own remote control application can't do the same.
For those of us who use Google Cast devices as our primary network players for our HiFi systems, the ability to apply DSP to the streams is essential. Many of us use the Zone specific DSP and DSP-Over-DLNA facilities for Speaker/Room Correction EQ. Not having access to that through JRiver's own remote control application, JRemote2, when streaming to a Chromecast is a major drawback.
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Hello, quick non-technical question… would a JRemote app purchase transfer to a new android device should I replace it one day? Or does a new device require a repurchase?
Thank you!
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No new purchase would be required.
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Really? I installed it on my new phone without additional purchase.
If you move everything from your old phone to your new one it will move automatically. Otherwise you can download it from the Play store.
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JimH replied - "No new purchase would be required". I think you mistakenly read it as "No. New purchase would be required". It appears that you're both saying the same.
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As long as you're using the same Google account you bought the JRemote2 app with in the Google Play Store you can reinstall JRemote2 on a new phone that is replacing your old phone.
The key here is you have to be using the same Google account that you purchased JRemote2 with, otherwise if you're using a different Google account you'll have to re-purchase the app.
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JimH replied - "No new purchase would be required". I think you mistakenly read it as "No. New purchase would be required". It appears that you're both saying the same.
You. Are 100% correct.
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Is Jremote2 still in devlopmemt? Wanted to know if Replaygain was planned in the future.
I would like to know if the app is in development, too. The app seems to be neglected, especially the iOS one; you can't even find it in the iOS app store anymore.
One complaint is I don't like how multi-valued fields are represented.
For example:
You have a multi-valued field called Genres. A few songs have the value 'Alternative; Rock'. Some other songs have the value 'Alternative; Punk'.
The desktop program will show them properly organized where you can see both sets under Alternative. The app, however, would show 2 separate folders named 'Alternative' .
So every combination of the field will show a separate folder instead of following what the main desktop program would do; simple grouping.
When you have hundreds of combinations, well..you get the idea.
I have a lot of other complaints, but based on the lack of answers to what others have asked, I don't feel they would be taken seriously here. Refer to the App store reviews (the Android one since iOS apparently doesn't exist) ; should cover most of them...
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The app's developer, Hendrik, has been focused on JRVR development for a good while now. I'd assume the JRemote2 app is still in development, but it's not currently in active development because of the ongoing JRVR work.
JRemote for iOS is a completely separate app from JRemote2 for Android (which was developed by Hendrik from the ground up). From what I've observed JRemote for iOS' development has slowed down a lot over the last few years, basically in maintenance mode with only bug fixes, when Bob has time to work on them. Keep in mind that Bob isn't JRemote for iOS' original developer, the original developer left the project years ago.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I’m sad to see only one person is able to work the mobile projects (and surprised) since mobile has been more and more a dominant platform.
I primarily use Media Center for Audio with mpc-hc as my video player.
Wish I had the time and energy to contribute code to the apps. The only thing I can really do is buy stuff here and there for support.
I wouldn’t mind purchasing a ‘jremote3’, at a premium, for both ios and android to get them updated a bit; they really need some love.
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There actually isn't any point in developing a "JRemote3". You can read Hendrik's post regarding the story and reasoning for JRemote2 and why it was needed here: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.0.html
The history of JRemote for Android, or, Why JRemote2?
JRemote was created back in 2015 by Lespaul, after he joined JRiver and we acquired JRemote for iOS from him. Unfortunately, he left JRiver before JRemote for Android was ever fully finished, at which point I was asked to salvage it and get it out to you guys. Unfortunately, being thrown nose first into the deep-end of a foreign code-base is not a good situation under the best of circumstances, and I wasn't exactly an experienced Android developer at the time either (and Android in 2015 was also in a much different place then it is today). Eventually we did produce a working JRemote for Android, at least I've been using it almost daily for years now, but it was never what it could've been.
Jump to six months ago, when Jim asked me to look into some of the reported issues in JRemote, my first step was to bring it up to date to the latest Android kit, at which point I already noticed that it hadn't aged well at all. While many of the development concepts used in JRemote were still very similar to what has become the standard today, the implementation was not. JRemote used a dozen or so third-party libraries, many of which had disappeared over the years - often because Google had created something similar for every Android developer out of the box. It didn't take me long to decide that it would be better to start almost from scratch.
JRemote2 is born
JRemote2 was created practically from scratch. The only thing I did re-use is the UI design, for one I think as a starting-point it was solid, and it makes the app feel familiar.
Everything else is new. Not a single line of code was simply copied. JRemote2 is written in Kotlin instead of Java, which has a lot of advantages, including crash-safety and a faster turn-around on new features, and I used all new modern Android development concepts and libraries, based on Android JetPack, a toolkit from Google to make modern apps.
Audio and Video Playback now uses Google's ExoPlayer2, which is far more capable then the default MediaPlayer JRemote used previously, this means we can support lossless FLAC up to 192/32, including gapless playback. And its extensible, which might allow us to add more native formats, and add some core DSP features like Volume Leveling in the future.
One key focus of JRemote2 is to make it reliable over all else, and hopefully we can deliver on that. Features that do get built-in should function reliably, and the app should ideally never crash.
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Thanks for pointing out the backstory. The stability goal is a great focus.
I guess my comment was mostly a veiled 'I'd pay money for more development'.
Kind of like the Media Center model with major changes.
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Is playlist functionality still work in progress?
Thanks
This came up on the MC29 board. Seems like a desired feature for some (me included :-*)
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Hi,
I can't figure out how to search for a song on jremote2.
Is there a setting I'm missing?
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If I recall correctly it hasn't been implemented yet.
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Trans-coding?
So I've finally ditched my Roon install due to lack of mobile streaming away from home..
and returned to JRiver which I used to have installed in the pre_mobile phone era !
So im using the Jremote2 fantastic app and listening in the car or walkabout. the big question I have, is the audio being transcoded to a lower bitrate for my phone? how exactly do i alter the quality settings of this..As i listen to FLAC files and looking to get an external DAC for my mobile to use with IEMs , how can I be sure 100% im in a bit perfect condition? excuse my ignorance , only just installed within 48 hrs, so still learning the steep curve.. I welcome your response.. thanks
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Try enabling the Use native audio format option in JRemote2, it works great for me with all my FLAC files playing natively without conversions. Also in MC's Options > Media Network > Client Options > Audio Conversion you can set Conversion to Don't convert audio if you want to avoid it completely.
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As Awesome Donkey said, enable "Use native audio" in JRemote2. It'll avoid conversions for FLAC, ALAC, AAC, MP3, and OggVorbis.
Note that no option inside MC will actually influence this behavior, Media Network options do not control JRemote2 streaming behavior.
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Thanks... cant believe how well this works.. no buffering when im driving.. hence wanted to double check.. yes I have use native audio checked..
So will go shopping for a usbC dac next..
As my IEMS need a little bass boost.. is there a way of using DSP option, prior to getting it on JRemote? also can you apply (slightly off topic) DSP to other streams, or is it only for the Server itself?
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DSP cannot be applied to JRemote2 playback right now, sorry.
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On my Pixel 3a phone using JRemote2, I kept getting a notification ding every time playback started and when I pressed play/pause or changed tracks. I am running Android 12.
To fix this, I changed the following:
Phone Settings > Notifications > App Settings > JRemote2 > Disable "Other: JRemote"
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Will it be released on iOS also?
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JRemote is available on iOS.
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I was asking about jriver2.
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JRemote for iOS is a separate app entirely, and being maintained by bob. There is no need to replace it.
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I was asking about jriver2.
Only Android
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Will there be an update to the IOS version?
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There is no IOS version of JRemote2.
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There is no IOS version of JRemote2.
Will there be an IOS version of Jremote2.
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This was already answered just two posts above your original one. No, JRemote2 is for Android only. The JRemote iOS app is being developed entirely separately by bob.
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Is there a projected release date for JR2 for iOS? Where do we submit defects enhancements or wishlists?
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Is there a projected release date for JR2 for iOS? Where do we submit defects enhancements or wishlists?
Uhhh, you're not listening here.
Both Jim and Hendrik have told you that JRemote2 is for Android only and that it's an Android only app. There isn't going to be a JRemote2 for iOS. The original JRemote is what's available for iOS devices. JRemote2 is for Android only.
Repeat: THERE IS NO JREMOTE2 FOR IOS AND THERE'S ISN'T GOING TO BE.
Hopefully you understand now.
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Ok then apply my question to the JRemote. It is obvious I misspoke. Relax.
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JRemote for iOS is already available, it was released many years ago.
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If you want more info' about JRemote for iOS have a look at the thread that is pinned below this one. "JRemote (iOS) 3.36"
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Hallo,
why is the JRemote2 not available for Android TV (Sony Sony XR-48A90K). Only the old JRiver is shown and it crashes when it must list a long list of play items or playlists.
Greetings
Purecut
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Any answers from JRiver people. Also the old JRiver can not passthrough the sound on modern Google TV. So my question again, when can we expect a JRemote 2 on Google TV
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It's because JRemote2 doesn't have support for the Android/Google TV interface with navigation via remote control/mouse, which as far as I know requires a dedicated GUI for TV interfaces. As far as I know it's targeted towards touch navigation only (so phones and tablets) and not touch navigation + remote control/mouse navigation.
JRiver for Android might work as an alternative since it does have interface support for Android TV last I checked, and so can Panel potentially via a web browser. You might want to at least give Panel a go and see what happens. The other alternative is MO 4Media which does have Android TV navigation support.
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Great job with JRemote2! I have been using JRiver and Gizmo for years. I am glad I spent the money and upgraded to JRemote2. It's beautiful, fast, and responsive. I am using it on my 8 year old Sony Xperia tablet running an ancient version of Android (v.5) and it still works great.
I do have a couple of requests.
1. Under "Audio", there are 7 subfolders: Artist, Album, Recent, Genre, Composer, Podcast, and Highly Rated. Not all of these are relevant to me. I would like to be able to re-arrange them, assign custom icons, and hide the ones I do not need.
2. The "Search" function always returns zero results, even though I know the tracks exist. To be clear, I am using JRemote2 on Android, with the PC playing music. The files are stored on a HDD on the PC. Am I using it wrongly?
3. The "Streaming" option does not exist. I know that JRiver will not support streaming from Tidal, Spotify, etc - so a workaround for the desktop is to use JRiver's built-in browser to open the Streaming website and play music from there. It works for the desktop. Would it be possible to cast the entire webpage from the desktop to the remote app, so that the streaming service can be controlled by remote?
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1. You do this from the Media Center running as your server. MC's Options > Media Network > Advanced dropdown > Customize Views for JRemote, Gizmo & Panel... though you can't assign custom icons.
2. Search isn't implemented yet in JRemote2, if memory serves.
3. Not possible unfortunately. It doesn't support the WDM driver playback through DLNA or Media Network. I believe people workaround it (in a way) by using other apps like BubbleUPnP for things like Tidal. Streaming in remotes like JRemote is for Cloudplay mostly.
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Would it be possible to display track rating stars below the track names in the tracklist (instead of having to enter Playing Now at the track-level)?
https://repos.bryanroessler.com/files/sp4Vxg7aY4Fd6Vmbj8xJ2271Yg9wxdk2HaGQ1s8kJyE7uiN39Qu05Vj53lVSs2Bj/Screenshot_2023-04-06-09-46-34-93_e4785b4ca06e05e1105644bbe44cc5dd.jpg
Another suggestion: a currently playing track indicator/highlight in the tracklist?
I prefer using the tracklist as the main playing window as opposed to Playing Now, for the same reasons I prefer using Standard View on the PC--better visual progress "through" an album (sometimes I get lost in Playing Now) and it's easier to remember track names when seeing them all at once instead of one at a time. The playback controls in the bottom bar are usually enough to get by, but sometimes I would like more interactivity from the tracklist like progress bars, playback controls, ratings, track indicators, etc.
Edit: Ahh, I see now that if I switch the tracklist to "list mode" (is this redundant?) using the upper right button, I can see the ratings in the tracklist. Works for me!
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Maybe stupid question but I can't find answer for 30 minutes on google and here on forum. How to remove song from playlist in JRemote2?
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Would it be possible to display track rating stars below the track names in the tracklist (instead of having to enter Playing Now at the track-level)?
Another suggestion: a currently playing track indicator/highlight in the tracklist?
I prefer using the tracklist as the main playing window as opposed to Playing Now, for the same reasons I prefer using Standard View on the PC--better visual progress "through" an album (sometimes I get lost in Playing Now) and it's easier to remember track names when seeing them all at once instead of one at a time. The playback controls in the bottom bar are usually enough to get by, but sometimes I would like more interactivity from the tracklist like progress bars, playback controls, ratings, track indicators, etc.
Edit: Ahh, I see now that if I switch the tracklist to "list mode" (is this redundant?) using the upper right button, I can see the ratings in the tracklist. Works for me!
thats nice! but will be more usefull and looking better if we have the options to customize ui for example i dont use the stars and etc, i prefere a cleaner look. so my suggestion is the option triger the settings on or off!
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Is it planned to include a system-wide search with jremote?
Gizmo had one, but jremote can only search within the current view. So I also have to switch to the web interface to search a specific song. I know that I could use the web interface in general, but jremote is more responsive with loading large views and showing covers..overall better user experience since it is a real app.
So please add the search function we had in Gizmo. I would be willing to pay for that e.g. in jremote 3. I even bought jriver for Android but that seems rather slow on my phone...
Kind regards,
Ruediger
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Great product. IOS (JRemote) or Droid
I am using JRemote2 - version 2.3.2-api21.
Device is Samsung galaxy S 23 ultra.
I have noticed I have no access to artist information (only meta) whereas it available on the IOS version? (last.fm, earlier versions?)
I have also noticed when navigating away from "playing now" and then returning, the display does not always re-center on the current track as in available IOS version?
(Restarts display at track 1- long "Playing Now" list = frustration)
Will there be an update in the near future?
All the best
Uncle Milt
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New user here - starting to learn the MC ropes.
Getting to appreciate MC - great solution for my needs. Running on a small W10 Pro PC.
My music is local on the W10 PC, and I also stream from Tidal.
I am now looking for a remote control option, like JRemote2.
What's nor clear to me yet:
Can I use JRemote2 (on my Android tablet) to control MC running on the W10 PC?
Does that require some additional app on the PC as an intermediary between the Android app and MC?
Can the app interact with MC over BlueTooth?
Apologies as these seem beginners questions (they are!); the threads here assume a minimal experience with it which I don't have yet.
Is there a beginners' guide to JRemote2?
Appreciate any pointers.
Jan
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Yes, you can use JRemote2 to control playback on a PC. Take a look at the wiki topics on Access Key and Remotes.
Just post here if you get stuck.
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Can the app interact with MC over BlueTooth?
No. It works via internet connection, e.g. Wi-Fi.
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In process of discovering JRiver many great features, and just installe JRemote2.
I read a lot of info here on all options and features of JRemote2 but not how to get going ...
This is how far I got: JRiver is installed on a laptop.
I installed JRemote2 on the Android tablet, got the 5-character connection code and entered it in JRemote2 sucessfully.
But how to I control the JRiver player on the laptop from JRemote2?
If I open the 'cast to' dialog, I see my TV decoder and my Wiim Pro player, but nothing else.
Under 'My servers' I see the laptop, I can connect to it, then at the bottom it says: [comp name]: this device (and it's the right name).
I can select music on the remote, but when I press the play traingle, nothing happens.
What am i missing??
Jan
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The code is called an Access Key. The wiki has a topic.
In JRemote, you can set where you want the playback to be. Player is what you probably want.
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But that's the problem "In JRemote you can set where you want the playback ...."
How do I do that?
I see at the top right the small square with the transmitter symbol, when I open that it says 'Cast to' and I get some options, none of them the machine where the player is hosted.
So please, instead of what's possible, please tell me how I do it?
Edit: under My servers|Edit server I see an option AUTHENTICATION which is blank.
Do I have to enter something there (it's greyed-out).
Edit2: I got it to play locally on the tablet from it's on-board music folder.
tia, Jan
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In JRemote2 the output zone chooser is under Playing Now in the bottom left.
It looks like a bullseye
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Yes, I just found it, thanks. There was a text saying 'this device'.
I didn't realise that it could be activated to select the replay device, it didn't look like a button or anything.
Must be my age .... All well now.
While I'm here: yesterday I was looking for a way to correct volume differences for individual channels (7.1).
I came to a window where there were the 8 channels across the top like blue squares you could select and then you could set individual levels.
For the life of me I can't find that back (should have written down how I got there).
Anybody knows what I mean and how I get there?
thanks for all your help guys;
I'm used to be in a forum where people come to me for help;
it's sobering to be on the other side for a change.
Jan
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Found what I was looking for - all fine now.
Jan
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Good day,
I have already asked before, and I want to ask again, my request is as follows:
I don't have the ability to play Hi-Res music from PC on Android.
Last time you answered that I can play *.flac but my music *.wav.
Can I count on adding this feature in the future or not?
Thanks.
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Is it planned to include a system-wide search with jremote?
Gizmo had one, but jremote can only search within the current view. So I also have to switch to the web interface to search a specific song. I know that I could use the web interface in general, but jremote is more responsive with loading large views and showing covers..overall better user experience since it is a real app.
So please add the search function we had in Gizmo. I would be willing to pay for that e.g. in jremote 3. I even bought jriver for Android but that seems rather slow on my phone...
Kind regards,
Ruediger
I am still desperately looking for an easy way to find certain songs in my music library when using Jremote2.
Is there any chance to have a system-wide search as we have it in Panel and in Gizmo?
When JRemote is loading the entire library at the beginning, it should be easy to search that entire library within Jremote2?
Currently, I can only search within the current view, or am I missing something here?
Besides that, a big fan of MC for over 10 years, just bought the most recent version 31 and will continue to support MC, thanks for the excellent program!
Kind regards,
Ruediger
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I use both iOS and Android versions of JRemote(2)...many years.
Although desirable as a feature, currently, no way to search for individual tracks (to my knowledge).
I must first search for Artist. then drill into listed albums to find the desired track.
Uncle Milt
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Yeah, I believe it's still on the to-do list. Hopefully someday in the future it's added.
Now, I just got a new phone (Motorola Edge+ 2023) that runs Android 13 and I've noticed something interesting... With the new music notification panel (https://9to5google.com/2022/03/17/android-13-dp2-music-notification-panel-gets-new-design-w-album-art-revamped-controls) in Android 13, JRemote2 does display controls (along with song info) correctly and all of it seems to work. The problem is the album art background of the notification panel is of very low pixelated quality even though the embedded album art is high. I checked YouTube Music, and it displays high quality album art in the music notification panel. Is it possible this could be fixed/improved in the future? I'm wondering if it's just an API level thing that needs updating?
P.S. Scrolling in JRemote2 with the 165hz screen is as smooth as butter, and a sight to behold. :P
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I am still desperately looking for an easy way to find certain songs in my music library when using Jremote2.
Is there any chance to have a system-wide search as we have it in Panel and in Gizmo?
When JRemote is loading the entire library at the beginning, it should be easy to search that entire library within Jremote2?
Currently, I can only search within the current view, or am I missing something here?
Besides that, a big fan of MC for over 10 years, just bought the most recent version 31 and will continue to support MC, thanks for the excellent program!
Kind regards,
Ruediger
Ruediger:
Check out MO 4Media - as a potential remote? On both iOS and Android. Search functionality appears to be viable.
I have not yet "paid-up", but I have downloaded, installed and accessed server.
Platform appears competitive feature-wise - and closely aligned with jRMC (and forum)
Uncle Milt
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So, I've been using OS automatic dark theme at sunset lately on my devices and loving it, but I've noticed that even though JRemote2 has a dark theme option, there's no option to automatically follow the system theme like lots of other apps do.
Would it be possible at some point to add a third theme option, "Follow System", so it automatically switches to the dark theme at night then back to the light theme during the day when the OS switches? Thanks!
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Good idea, AD. Thanks. We'll try.
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I've added a DayNight (Follow System) theme option, let us know if it works properly once the update is out.
I'm currently working on a global search option as requested here, and then we'll publish it.
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A new version of JRemote2 has been submitted to Google for review and should be available on the Play Store soon. For enrolled beta testers first, and the general public shortly after.
Depending on how long it'll take to be reviewed, it should be available soon.
The biggest change to the app itself is bringing it up to date to the latest Android version. Feature wise, we have added a global Search in the Nav Drawer, as well as a "DayNight" skin that automatically selects the Dark or Light skin (select "Follow System" in the Theme setting).
JRemote2 2.4.0 (10/11/2023)
1. Changed: Updated to the latest Android version and libraries.
2. NEW: Global Search in the Navigation Drawer.
2. NEW: Follow System ("DayNight") Theme.
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Any chance of some improvements for image playback please :)
This has been mentioned before, along with in a couple of the 'ideas' threads.
Basic issues are a couple of pages back, but essentially the ones that bug me:
* Landscape mode squashes all images into half the screen with the player controls on the right.
* No timed slideshow :(
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My search function now works on JRemote2! Most Grateful.
Looking for "Playing Now" list - to center on track currently playing within the list vs. return to top?
There is always something...:-)
ATB
Uncle Milt
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I can't find a disconnect option when casting to my NVidia Shield Pro from a Nokia 8.3 5G on Android 12. How do I disconnect the Shield and use JRemote2 to control MC as usual again? A Google search finds "tap the Cast icon on your app and then tap the Disconnect button" but there is no such button that I can find. Right now I have to close down Media Server and restart it just to release JRemote2 from the Shield.
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The cast button should be in the menu bar on most views, you use it to link to a cast device as well. Or does it go away once linked? I can't say I have observed that.
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Great release! The only issue I've noticed so far using it on Android 13 is that the cover/album art used in the playing now notification is of very low, pixelated quality. It should be doable to show higher quality cover/album art, as MO 4Media and other apps like YouTube Music can.
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I'm aware of that issue, and a potential avenue to fixing it, but its not a quick fix, unfortunately.
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Edited after more testing:
The cast button should be in the menu bar on most views, you use it to link to a cast device as well. Or does it go away once linked? I can't say I have observed that.
Once you press it and choose to cast to the Shield it works and the icon stays there (and shows an in-fill) but doesn't offer any disconnect option that I can see.
Tried again today and this time I saw a button that said "Stop casting" and pressed it. There is still no "Disconnect" button. The casting stopped showing on the monitor connected to the Shield and the monitor went to the usual home screen. Also the in-fill on JRemote2's casting icon disappeared, but after that JRemote2 could no longer control MC. I went to the PC and MC was working fine when using the keyboard and mouse, so I left something playing, but JRemote2 could no longer control it. It just said "Nothing is playing" when it WAS playing. Closing JRemote2 and restarting it got things back to normal. I'm on 2.4.0 and MC30 on W10Pro.
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Thanks for the details. That should be fixed in the next update.
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Suggestion for viewing pictures: Ability to view pictures in full screen, and swiping left/right on the picture shows the previous/next picture in the queue.
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So, I just purchased JRemote2 for Android yesterday, in large part for the Chromecast support.
I'm using an MC31 Media Server with it.
My audio files (FLAC in CD quality, 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo) play fine if I cast to my two Chromecast with Google TV.
However, when I try to cast to one of my Chromecast Audio (tried a few, not all, I have 14 of them), I hear the initial sound when using the cast button, but the playback does not actually start.
My 14 CCAs all work fine in other apps such as the Google Home app (cast my audio feature), and Qobuz.
Any idea what might be going on and how to fix it ?
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Maybe the format isn't supported. Try an MP3 file.
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Maybe the format isn't supported. Try an MP3 file.
Thanks. I just tried a 192 kbps and unfortunately experience the same problem - no playback on CCAs.
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We just feed the audio to googles library to manage Chromecasts. Do they still support Chromecast Audio?
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I noticed that when doing searches, hitting the back button loses the previous search criteria. Example :
1. open JRemote menu
2. press Audio
3. press Artists. It shows 1546 artists
4. press the magnifying glass to search
5. type the name of an artist in your library, in my case I used Chorzempa
6. in my case, I found 7 artist matches for Daniel Chorzempa - slightly different variations or with different punctuation
7. I opened one folder to look at the albums
8. I press the back button
9. Now I see all the artists again like in step 3 . I had expected to see the same results as in step 6.
Not sure how hard this is to implement, but it would be great especially on a mobile device not to have to type searches like this repeatedly.
Of course, I will fix my library using MC to consolidate the artists name into one for this case, but the same goes for, say, an album search when hitting the back button.
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For the next time there is an update I would like to suggest a couple of small fixes/tweaks that would please me greatly.
I use JRemote, a lot, to select Movies or Shows to watch, after I've navigated my Video library I put my mobile down on the sofa next to me which can inadvertently switch it from portrait to landscape, this currently has the side effect of placing you in the Audio section away from the location I just navigated to. It seems appropriate to me that switching between portrait and landscape displays should maintain the current interface location.
The other is if you have Chromecast enabled, when in a Video page the Search icon disappears from the top on the screen hidden in the 3dots with Playmode. Or at least it does on my mobile. As I use search a lot to locate films I would love it if it remained visible at the top of the screen.
Thanks
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A new version of JRemote2 has been submitted to Google for review and should be available on the Play Store soon. For enrolled beta testers first, and the general public shortly after.
Depending on how long it'll take to be reviewed, it should be available soon.
The biggest change to the app itself is bringing it up to date to the latest Android version. Feature wise, we have added a global Search in the Nav Drawer, as well as a "DayNight" skin that automatically selects the Dark or Light skin (select "Follow System" in the Theme setting).
JRemote2 2.4.0 (10/11/2023)
Thank you so much for adding this global search feature!!!
Now JRemote is even more amazing.
However, the search function is showing far more results than expected, e.g. searching for Alane (from Wes) it shows all songs containing alone or similar words. Is this some kind of phonetic search? If so, can you make this phonetic feature optional (perhaps in the settings)?
Kind regards,
Ruediger
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Do you know which option should I set in JRiver to enable possibility of modifying rating in media files? Currently is working only in read mode (value of rating isn't saved after changing in JRemote2)
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You need to enable and use authentication in the MC server's Settings > Media Network and not use read-only authentication in JRemote2. Then use the authentication username+password in JRemote2 when adding or editing a server.
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You need to enable and use authentication in the MC server's Settings > Media Network and not use read-only authentication in JRemote2. Then use the authentication username+password in JRemote2 when adding or editing a server.
Yes, I've tried it. But no success.
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Yes, I've tried it. But no success.
Reboot both sides.
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Reboot both sides.
Thanks. That's working solution :)
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A new version of JRemote2 will be available shortly.
JRemote2 2.4.1 (12/11/2023)
1. Changed: Improved artwork quality in the system notifications.
2. Fixed: Search context could be lost when navigating.
3. Fixed: Stability improvements.
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Most grateful. Thanks for the continuing investment.
The whole platform has made my life - much better.
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Thanks.
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Any chance it is on the roadmap to have JRemote2 send the now playing info to car audio over Bluetooth? Neither this app nor Gizmo does. MO4Media does but it has a few stability issues when used outside the home.
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Any chance it is on the roadmap to have JRemote2 send the now playing info to car audio over Bluetooth? Neither this app nor Gizmo does. MO4Media does but it has a few stability issues when used outside the home.
+1
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Any chance it is on the roadmap to have JRemote2 send the now playing info to car audio over Bluetooth? Neither this app nor Gizmo does. MO4Media does but it has a few stability issues when used outside the home.
I guess I should take this as a no.
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I think you're asking about Android Auto support. JRiver for Android has it.