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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 29 for Windows => Topic started by: marko on February 11, 2022, 11:02:14 pm
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fitbrit said...
I am getting old.
and I thought... "ain't we all" and then I got to wondering how old we all were...
I promise this isn't any kind of social engineering exercise. You could also lie, or just not reply :)
Me? I'm 57 this year. How old are you?
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In a few months time I will be celebrating - The 50th Anniversary of writing my 1st Computer Program, I'm still writing them and probably will continue to do until it's time for me to take pushing up daisies for a living.
I've always believed that Age is just a number which is probably why I'm still as mentally and physically agile/active as I was the day I sat down to write that 1st program. Even though my body will occasionally remind me that this year I will be 74.
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As a software engineer, I prefer to express myself in hex: I'm 0x30 ;D
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53
Not sure how that happened ?
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I'm 77, going on 80.
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I'm 77, going on 80.
I'm 80, going on 77.
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I'm 80, going on 77.
That's what I said. Small world!
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I'll be 49 next weekend.
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60 this year and to prove I'm not old I'm doing Lands End to John O'Groats on a bike!
Craig
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60 this year and to prove I'm not old I'm doing Lands End to John O'Groats on a bike!
Craig
800 miles? Hope that bike has an engine. Send us a postcard.
60 is so young. Eh, Kal?
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Yeah, my daughter is 60. :o
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61. I don't think of myself as old, but the calendar suggests I am indeed!
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TBH , secretly i was sulking inside that at 47 maybe i was the oldest after JimH in this forum. But now i discover its not so. I'm so very very young. I think i should hop and sprint like a rabbit for a mile or two to celebrate this ;D ;D :D :D
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In a few months time I will be celebrating - The 50th Anniversary of writing my 1st Computer Program...
I too started coding in '72 using Algol 68 on the local "mini computer", which used ferrite ring core (Elliot 903, punch tape and teletypes), and Fortran (WatfIV compiler, CDC6600 mainframe, punch cards).
At 69, deep inside, the 19 yr old me is still wondering wtf happened.
Dave
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I thought with my 63 years that I was an old man in the midst of many young people, but I am pleased to see that I was wrong ;D
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I think they made a movie depicting MC's user base:
(https://tonygentilcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Grumpy-Old-Men.jpg)
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52, but I have stopped counting after 50 ;o)
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Let's lower that average a bit, I turned 41 in January.
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73. Wrote my first Fortran in '64. Built my first amplifier in '70. It was cutting edge, no tubes. Plenty of new things ahead.
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I thought with my 63 years that I was an old man in the midst of many young people, but I am pleased to see that I was wrong ;D
100% my feelings and my age!
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I think as depressing as it is to get old, it really beats the alternative!
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70. Only 52 when I got my first copy of JRiver (9).
Never worked in IT, but my first PC was bought in 1980, Sharp PC1211.
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I'm 76. I wrote my first program in 1963 in Fortran in an Intro to Computing class in college. I didn't start programming for a living until 1973. First year college lifestyle, Vietnam, and then grad school delayed me from getting a job.
Gary
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I will be 60 in August.
It surprises me that so many of us are in the same ball park.
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I will be 60 in August.
It surprises me that so many of us are in the same ball park.
30 year olds have earbuds and a phone for both music and video and stream everything. Amazon and Spotify and Apple Music are their JRiver. The paradigm has changed.
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I've got you all beat! I'll be 85 this year. But remember, age is just a state of mind. Stay young and sharp my friends.
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800 miles? Hope that bike has an engine. Send us a postcard.
990 by the route we're taking and the only engines are my legs.
PM me an address and I'll gladly send you a postcard assuming :-
A, I make it all the way
B, they have postboxes that far north :)
Craig
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73. Wrote my first Fortran in '64. Built my first amplifier in '70. It was cutting edge, no tubes. Plenty of new things ahead.
I just built my first amp, it has lots of tubes :)
Craig
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990 by the route we're taking and the only engines are my legs.
PM me an address and I'll gladly send you a postcard assuming :-
A, I make it all the way
B, they have postboxes that far north :)
Craig
Wow! Enjoy the trip!
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56 here... I too am surprised with the ages of some of the folks...
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61 here... with the maturity of a 17yo and the disposition of a 80yo (whoops... no offense intended toward octogenarian MC users ::))
I too am quite surprised by all the old... errr... I mean the massive "collective life wisdom" ;D among the members. Jeez... we could start our dang retirement community!
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I just turned 1/2 century old last May.
Glad to see that MC appeals to the most experienced folks. :)
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As a software engineer, I prefer to express myself in hex: I'm 0x30 ;D
I still refer to myself with my CompuServe octal ID number.
And yes, I still have that number memorized.
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I just built my first amp, it has lots of tubes :)
Craig
I am back to a tube pre-amp - 8 6SN7. Yes, they are noisy and you have to replace the tubes, but they do sound good.
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I am back to a tube pre-amp - 8 6NS7. Yes, they are noisy and you have to replace the tubes, but they do sound good.
Mine's a guitar amp, it's meant to be noisy :)
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I am back to a tube pre-amp - 8 6SN7. Yes, they are noisy ..........................................
Depends on how old you are.
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Depends on how old you are.
The noise is in the measurements, but very few people can hear it. But, the difference in sound between tubes and solid state can be significant, even for my old ears.
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I don't think a lot of what people think they hear is real. We added the Listening Test a few years ago (under Tools) and very few people were able to identify the differences within the higher resolution files.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=107924.0
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I had an interesting conversation with a 20ish bloke who loves his vinyl and wants to also build a tube amp because it "sounds better". What it boiled down to was a "nostalgic" factor that gave him this pleasure, rather than "quality". Jim, you should add a DSP setting to add pop, wow, flutter, and other analogue distortion but call it something trendy like "Digital to Analogue Warmth"
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I don't think a lot of what people think they hear is real. We added the Listening Test a few years ago (under Tools) and very few people were able to identify the differences within the higher resolution files.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=107924.0
Different equipment sounds different and some people really can hear the difference.
And, Jmone, vinyl does sound different than digital music and tubes do sound different from solid state for real reasons. For example, they have a lot more even harmonics in it than digital music. You need good equipment to tell the difference, but lots of people can hear the difference. Maybe your friend needs different equipment.
Here is a discussion of the issues of odd and even harmonics with tubes and solid state equipment.
https://producerhive.com/ask-the-hive/odd-vs-even-harmonic-distortion/
But, please, let's not turn this fun thread into that discussion once again.
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I had an interesting conversation with a 20ish bloke who loves his vinyl and wants to also build a tube amp because it "sounds better". What it boiled down to was a "nostalgic" factor that gave him this pleasure, rather than "quality". Jim, you should add a DSP setting to add pop, wow, flutter, and other analogue distortion but call it something trendy like "Digital to Analogue Warmth"
I've looked into plugins to do it but never get them working. Sometimes I just want some analog warmth.
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I'm actually not dissing analogue at all. Once the discussion moved from "quality" to "preference" we were on the same page.
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I'm actually not dissing analogue at all. Once the discussion moved from "quality" to "preference" we were on the same page.
Agreed.
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I have a strange fondness for Stereo Wide that was on my 1980's boom box.... and the memories it evokes.
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I've looked into plugins to do it but never get them working. Sometimes I just want some analog warmth.
It's not a bad idea to maybe add a "Creative DSP" filter. I've no idea what the parameters would be however.
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jmone - There is something in the picture of your 80's boom box that had me smiling -= the fact that that manufacturers deemed it necessary to add a 2nd "Loudness" label for the Volume Control ;D
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It's not a bad idea to maybe add a "Creative DSP" filter. I've no idea what the parameters would be however.
I was looking at tube simulator VST plugins. I never worked that hard to get them to work. It has always been a fleeting memory of a noisy old tube pre I had that gets me to go searching.
P.S. 47 and I have always figured I was at the low end of the forum when I got on with v18. Doesn't seem like I was wrong.
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47... harrumphhhh... just a whippersnapper
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78
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43, with a 2 and a 3 year old chasing me around.
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51 and my youngest of 5 kids is only 8 years old - I'll be young for a while still. ;D
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turned 50 yesterday and my youngest kid is 2 years old, so getting old is not an option ;D
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Early 30's
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:o
as long as i dont look in a mirror i still feel somewhere 40 (or that is what i tell myself)..
58 here though. :)
old but not grumpy
:)
gab
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59
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Interesting thread.
I guess the teenagers and 20-ers just Spotify and Netflix it...
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Interesting thread.
I guess the teenagers and 20-ers just Spotify and Netflix it...
They often don't have the time or money to do anything very complex.
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They often don't have the time or money to do anything very complex.
I wasn't going to say that... :-X
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I turned 48 on the 12th. I am kind of shocked by how old the average user (or at least responder to this thread) is.
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I turned 48 on the 12th. I am kind of shocked by how experienced the average user (or at least responder to this thread) is.
FTFY ;D
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Spring chicken, at 38!
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Just turned 47 some days ago. Funny, it seems to be that I‘m in the younger 50% of the forum :o ;D
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Spring python, at 38!
Signs of a mis-spent youth. You've been around here for 20 years!
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Signs of a mis-spent youth. You've been around here for 20 years!
Best years of my life! Time goes very quickly. I have a 2yo and a 3.5yo now.
And much less time for media curation and tagging.... one day I will catch up on it all!
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45 and feel a bit puppyish in this thread then! ;D
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Well respect: A lot of these folks,
- experienced the first recorded sound
- heared the first phone call
- saw the Titanic in real
- experienced the name change from New Amsterdam to New York
;D
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Well respect: A lot of these folks,
- experienced the first recorded sound
- heared the first phone call
- saw the Titanic in real
- experienced the name change from New Amsterdam to New York
;D
Piss off, kid.
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Jim's still working to digitise his analogue collection.
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...and it will go well with his Wireless Noise Cancelling Ear Trumpet.
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Rumour goes he's saving to go stereo.......
(https://i.imgur.com/TNPxIc0.jpg)
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You're bothering me.
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Harsh,
I'm going to check out that movie mentioned in this thread, a very catchy title.
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Born at stardate 37760
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Born at stardate 37760
Somehow I doubt you were born in 2360:
https://www.hillschmidt.de/gbr/sternenzeit.htm
Perhaps that's the internal MC date format? Since you were registered in 2004 and MC date 37760 is 2003... wow, you bought MC when you were 1 year old, talk about precociousness! ;D
(yes, I know that stardate calculator is wrong for a different ST series. Is it 1960?)
Edit: now you pushed me down a rabbit hole... it seems there are different timelines, fairly arbitrary and inconsistent between them. So there's multiple TOS and TNG calculators out there, yielding different results. Most complete page on the topic is here (https://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm#TOScalculator))
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Born at stardate 37760
So, you'd be 62 yrs young then :)
I'll bet the HEX ages kept Google busy... Stardate? Brilliant. I never even knew that was a real(ish) thing.
This has turned into a pretty interesting thread. Thanks to all who replied so far...
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66 yrs...earliest memories are musical ....on this river 10 plus yrs....instant gratification...
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me, the piss-off kid ;) Started the digital music in the midi era (1995). The first expensive digital audio related purchase was the Yamaha SW60XG, which held a 18-bit DAC on a 80386 (40 MHz). MP3 wasn't mainstream yet, the first public testing was during the Olympics in 1992 (mpeg1-2-3), For audio cards we could choose between the SB-Pro or market leader adlib. In 1995 the extension/name mp3 saw it's birth and came available for a PC. MP3 wasn't really used for audio as disc space was limited to 20MB, or if had 3 month salaries to spare, 2 for a 520MB disc. and 1 for a SCSI controller, you would have some room to store the 300-500kB mp3 files.
In the early 90's the CD-Rom came to the computer, so we could use the computer to play digital audio. But keep in mind not a competitor for the CD-player.
flac gained popularity around 2005, back then JRiver wasn't well known on this side of the pond, I stepped in with MC17
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Thanks to all who found out how old I am - LOL. I think I started with MC11 ?
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Today exactly 17008 days onto our planet (getting everyday closer to something like ...47 yrs).
First contact to Digital Music was Pink Floyd’s Wish You Were Here on CD.
We also had (and still have) the vinyl of this album, A-B testing ;)
At that time my parents owned a ReVox B225, operation of it was only allowed after washing our hands first ;D
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Last year a company congratulated me for being on earth for 25'000 days and offered a coupon to buy something.
MediaJukebox/MediaCenter has been running on my PC for about 7500 days.
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Also a 25K club member... 30K is a LONG way off!
I wouldn't be surprised if I've had MJ/MC for a similar amount of time. Maybe we could get a free JR coffee mug? ;D
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I´m working now 16K in the same company
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I forgot how to use the MID Rule
I had to go back to the MC11 forum to see how I explained it back then.
Path Rule: Mid([Artist], 0, 1)
I started before Media Center, with Media Jukebox 6
Media Center is the best out there.
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We are an ageing crew 😈
72 in May, my first amp was a Clive Sinclair special which kept blowing power trannies. Thankfully he was based in Cambridge a quick cycle away
Look on the bright side at my age my hearing is shot so the audiophile want want want doesn’t mean much .
The big question is will hearing aids fit in my HD800s 😂😂😂
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Curious... what version of Media Jukebox existed in November 2001?
And when did the very first version come out?
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We began working in the digital media area in 1998.
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I have an installer here for Media Jukebox 1.0.352... It's 1.78 Mb
(https://www.mpw.scot/pics/ia/29/MJ_10352_props.jpg)
(https://www.mpw.scot/pics/ia/29/MJ_10352.jpg)
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Thank you for your purchase of Media Jukebox 8 from JRiver, Inc.
for $24.98
Best Wishes from the Media Jukebox team at JRiver
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BuyButton Receipt from J. RIver, Inc.
Name: xxxxxxx
Date: July 8, 2002
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I have an installer here for Media Jukebox 1.0.352... It's 1.78 Mb
Nice screenshot! I can see they made a couple of UI changes since, barely changed... ;D
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Hi friends, any possibility to get the first Windows Media Center installer?
I have a virtual W98 running and would like to install it.
tc
Stefan
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Enjoying this thread.
I'm 74 - - was a recording engineer in the 70's & 80's
Now JRiver to Exasound 8 to amp & speakers make my old ears very happy. Thanks!
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I'm 38. I've been using JRiver since I was 30. Wish I had found it earlier! My digital library was such a mess before Media Center.
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74.5 - still think those decimals are important. I wrote my first code in 1966 in a CDC non-relocatable assembler called Sycom (zappy name huh?) My first audio gear was a Heathkit AR-1500 driving a pair of JBL 4310 control monitors. They were the ugly version of the Century 100s if I recall correctly. I still can't figure out how we invited these old people to come and live with us.
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I'll be 70 in 2 months time and in love with JRiver for 17 years.
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64 here and a relative latecomer to JRiver - I only use the audio side of the program and tried most of the audio players first before coming on board with MC 24 in 2018. To be fair I was with MusicBee for a few years and it was very good but once I tried JRiver I knew I had found a long term home for my music collection.
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69. Mighty Fine
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I played with .MOD files back with my first PC in about 1993. They were interesting because they were small enough to fit many of them on a hard drive. But they weren't general purpose. They had to be written kind of like a musical composition and were more similar to MIDI files (but much cooler).
There were WAV files and things back then, but didn't seem practical at all. After MP3s hit the scene, I knew things were going to change big time. I heard my first MP3 around 1997 or so. I waited forever and bought an ipod around 2005 and spent weeks ripping hundreds of CDs. That turned out to be a huge mistake for many reasons. It ruined music for me for a while.
Five or six years later I discovered lossless audio formats and vaguely remembered that "weird sounding" Monkey's Audio format. When I discovered MC about the same time, I was surprised and impressed to find out that the author of Monkey's Audio was also the original principle author of MC!
MC changed my music handling drastically and gave me complete control over my library. I could finally find and cleanly organize all of my music and be my own Digital Librarian.
Some combination of lossless audio and MC reawakened my musical interest and I tripled my music collection (on CD) in the next 5 years. I've been adding to it at a much slower pace for the years since then.
I'll be 52 this year.
Brian.
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I'm DOS 3.1 = 65
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I have a strange fondness for Stereo Wide that was on my 1980's boom box.... and the memories it evokes.
What's scary is I think I recognise the controls that looks horribly like a Bush boombox (though I think it actually only had 2.5W per channel so not so much Boom ) I had in the 80's
Myself, I watched the pyramids being built so feeling a little old now
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64 here. Love music more than ever, but still go back to the music I listened to in my formative years.
I hope Jim keeps this going for a few more.
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I have a strange fondness for Stereo Wide that was on my 1980's boom box.... and the memories it evokes.
51 here and I agree totally. Stereo wide on my dad's (very small) Philips cassette player sounded terrific!
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67 here. And I really think collecting music, tagging and creating playlists (not to mention listening)... keeps my CRS under control. I personally know a couple 30 somethings who use MC, but I guess they're not forum types.
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65 here. Came over for MC 21 when MS dropped their windows media center. Came for the television, stayed for the music/movies. Well, ok, the television is still awesome.
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Well... here goes nothing ::)
I'm 86 ;D.
My first JR device was Media JukeBox 7.
My first paid version was Media Center 9 (Nov-2-2002).
Upgrades back then were only $10.00 :o
Have bought every version since.
Have had a Love - Hate relationship with MC all these years (Love it for the audio but the TV drives me nuts sometimes).
Anyway, I'm a committed long-time user.
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I'm 69. What looked at first like a lame post thread is quite surprising and thought provoking. I figured all of you were less than 30 and using the intricacies of MC was second nature to you!
Now, I'm blending in my head this thread and the Why Did You Buy JRiver? The age demographics are interesting now in that most of us are older, grew up with the same music and stereo equipment.
One of the many reasons I bought JRiver is the depth and complexity of it, while at the same time I was beginning to explore in depth digital music. JRiver gave me the ability to tweak my settings, DSP, etc, and forced me to gladly research all things digital and audio.
Very interesting. Our age and our choice of JRiver is much more intertwined than I would ever have guessed.
-jim
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Seems I am in the demographic zone as many of you as well... Turning 58 this year and been
playing ripping apart electronics since 7-8 as mom used to work at a film studio in the sound dept. Cigarette smoked out million track button Ward-Beck consoles used to smell so nice! :)
After reading many or the posts, I can see that a more discerning demographic are using and expecting reliable software to render quality results. The team here at JRiver listen and frankly deliver a product tailored after feedback from a group of astute users. I piece together all my hardware equipment carefully and love that I can tailor 1 piece of software as the control plane.
Listening to music has always been part of my life and favourite friend for the all years I spent on planes, trains & automobiles. Started to use JRiver to sync my Walkwan when Sony dropped their GoSync or whatever it was. Been managing my entire with it library ever since!
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Well , I turned 60 last August , don't post much but I'm an avid reader of all that goes on. Started using MC at version 14 and I simply love it firstly for the organizing of my music collection ,the sound quality second to none and then videos and now blurays , I don't intend to get into 4K . I too thought the age demographic would be more on the younger side so I'm pleasantly surprised to see the opposite . I don't and never have used MC for TV , very little on TV for me these days , I tend to watch stuff on youtube more than ever when I'm not working. I've always loved technology and like many of you you I've seen the massive development and changes in electronics from the early 70's thru to early video games , mobile phones , computers and then the internet came along and changed everything , not always for the better but I certainly couldn't imagine life without it now .
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68 this year! Hendrix and Cream in my earliest concert attendance list, but now appreciating Oscar Peterson, Ella, Louis Armstrong, Sinatra more and more.
Run MC29 through an AWOW Windows 10 mini PC out through a Dragonfly DAC. Switching everything I can to HD as I find it, and push out to my 30 year old Bryston amp and same era,very early NHT speakers. Use JRemote2 on an LGV60 to control it. Just absolutely love it. All my music, at my fingertips.
Playlists for every artist, period, season, occasion, city, live or not, etc. NHT's gotta go and replace with KEF LS50's one of these days.
Always get a kick out of people (especially young people) who are amazed by what can be done with MC, but don't understand why it is better than Spotify, LP's or MP3's. Have thousands of hours wrapped up in digitizing, finding new content and making interesting playlists. Movies this year now that I have discovered David Lean movies.
Thanks to everyone at JRiver for building such a fine product. All the better cause this oldster can explain to young whippersnappers why it sounds better than their way.
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30 year olds have earbuds and a phone for both music and video and stream everything. Amazon and Spotify and Apple Music are their JRiver. The paradigm has changed.
Im 26, so... there are some.
Not some marketing genius, however I do think that you might have some more younger people if your website / forum did not look like it was made 20 years ago (to the extend that it´s possible to attract those younger people). There are certainly younger people who are annoyed by market segregation and/or want better quality. The problem is just that to get the creature comforts services like spotify give you (can play from any device, anywhere), here is some for most people not very graspable setup involved.
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I had an interesting conversation with a 20ish bloke who loves his vinyl and wants to also build a tube amp because it "sounds better". What it boiled down to was a "nostalgic" factor that gave him this pleasure, rather than "quality". Jim, you should add a DSP setting to add pop, wow, flutter, and other analogue distortion but call it something trendy like "Digital to Analogue Warmth"
https://babyaud.io/taip-plugin
Oh, I'm somewhere between 58 and 59.
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I went on Medicare last year (for those of you not in the U.S. that means I turned 65 last year).
I'm not a real long term JRiver user, but I think I bought my first copy in 2015. If there was an ATV app, my life would be complete.
Been writing programs for money (not always a lot of money) since 1979. Have done my share of computer building and network installs as well. I used to say that I got into the PC business before IBM and outlasted them. :-)
My oldest piece of audio equipment is a 1979 B&O turntable. I still fire it up on occasion.
When I was young and worked for other people, I was always the youngest person in the office (except for the receptionist who was always a 19 year old blond). One day I looked around the office at the company that I was a founder of and realized that I was the oldest person in the building. That was the day I knew I was old. I now live in a 55 and over community and am one of the youngest people playing tennis. I feel young again. :-)
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74 here (I think)
I’ve used JRiver since the beginning. Ripped all my CD’s to .ape. Seemed the best at the time. Later realized .ape would not play on iPods. No problem, JRiver converted all to .aiff.
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64 here. Started with Media Jukebox 6, as best I can recall. Started programming with FORTRAN in '75.
Two of my favorite quotes:
"One of the greatest surprises in life is old age" - Leo Tolstoy
"Old age is not for sissies" - Bette Davis
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Turned 48 a month ago. Doesn't seem so old any more.
Grew up with vinyl, but couldn't stand all the "fussiness" of cleaning and needle drop and all. Wandered through tapes and CDs. After ripping my collection, finally made the jump to digital not too long ago with MC24. I love the control it gives me.
We learned C++ in school, but everything at my first job was written in Fortran. I still code in Fortran, even when using python. ;D
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Split The 2000 Year Old Man Still Remembers CS (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,132643.0.html)
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I forgot how to use the MID Rule
I had to go back to the MC11 forum to see how I explained it back then.
Path Rule: Mid([Artist], 0, 1)
I started before Media Center, with Media Jukebox 6
Media Center is the best out there.
Holy Smokes - I'm so glad to see you are still here King Sparta. Don't know how many others have been here since Media Jukebox. Wow.
I just turned 50 something, I don't know, born in '65, so whatever it is. Stopped counting at 40.
Love Matt's answer though: always better than the alternative!
Jim, I still remember that concert you organized in Minneapolis with a band from NY? That was to celebrate some MJ or MC anniversary. Do you remember which?
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67 in July..
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I think they made a movie depicting MC's user base:
(https://tonygentilcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Grumpy-Old-Men.jpg)
I love the Walter Matthau line when he was hitting on a young blonde hottie.
"... I immediately recognized that when we first met I stirred deep seated emotion in you. I understand that was disgust, but I can build on that ..."
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I think the main culprit is likely streaming services. Most under 30s aren’t ripping CDs or maintaining digital media libraries.
I’m 31. Been using JRiver for a few years. I also use Roon, switching between the two intermittently. Tidal and foobar2000 on my work laptop.
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58. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMPUTERS SINCE THE EARLY 80S and still occasionally leave caps lock on.
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Hello all fresh men and women.
I am 69 and feel young and alive. Media center is a monument, old and and so young, clever, smart in this features allways up to today's needs and possibilities.
Thanks to you OLD guys ;)
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I've been writing code since I became self-aware (sometime in the early 1970's). I proudly wear a T-shirt that states, "I turned x0010 0011 Twice!"
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83 in a few weeks, and I go back to at least Media Jukebox 8, probably even earlier. (Memory fails me in this and hundreds of other ways.) Nice to see King Sparta and a couple of other familiar names still around. I’m in pretty good shape, all things considered, still go to the gym 4-5 days a week, almost as much for the company of other gym rats as for actual workouts.
I got into digitizing media in the early Napster days, have pursued it ever since. Very large library, likely 80-85% lossless. I’m a JRiver junky, keep lobbying for a larger search window to compensate for my increasingly-funky vision. I’m agnostic on digitized vs acoustic sound quality, but at this age I’m smart enough not to rely any further on my own hearing.
I don’t have a technical background, seldom post except to ask for help with insoluble problems, but enjoy following the threads for their self educational contributions.
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53 here.
My first copy of Mediajukebox was version 9 where ogg and ape were the defaults and you had to pay for an mp3 encoder or use LAME. I admit that I didn't purchase every release since then, but when COVID hit, they were nice enough to let me dust off my old license and offer me an upgrade price for the version I had. I've bought the master licenses for 27, 28, and 29.
For me, it's an outstanding product and I figure that I'd rather spend money with them rather than being "spied on" by any of the "free" products out there.
“if something is free, you’re the product”. -Richard Serra, 1973
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55 years old and been on since MC20 I think.
Love the tinkering aspect of JriverMC, I guess its the Grumpy Old Man in me pushing back against streaming services but being able to tweak and rearrange and manage my library and the data in it to my own design is great fun. T-Rex doesn't want to be fed...T-rex wants to hunt.
Digging around and playing with metadata, playlists and streaming options about the place and having great audio quality a result is very satisfying and makes me feel young and important.
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I neglected to state a couple of reasons why I stick with MC besides inertia. There's always something new.
Historically, I've heavily relied on the server function for remote access while working out or traveling. Once I figured out the anti-virus and port forwarding challenges (thanks Awesome Donkey), its worked like a dream.
More recently, the ability to share files from my library has been a very helpful. Instead of relying on my diminished capacity to articulate my like for (say) Miles Davis and Blue Moods, I can share the file. Res ipse loquitur.
Edit: 'Res', not 'Re'.
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Started programming in 1968 on an IBM 360/20. The only languages it supported were RPG and Assembler, so I started with the latter. First big project: get the line printer to print an entire line at intervals that would cause the printer to rock back and forth and (I hoped) fall over. No success. An eye opener when, a year later, I had the opportunity to work on a GE 600, which (as I dimly recall) had an Assembler that was so much more compact and elegant than the IBM Assembler.
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50 in 4 Weeks and here since V20 if im not wrong.
Learned industrial electrician, i work now as measurement and control technician in the glass production.
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I'm 49 and have been an MC user since version 15, I think. Unlike most everyone else on here, I'm not coming from the programming or technical world but am instead a college-level English teacher, with a background in poetry writing (MFA from a top program in the US), even if I did start in programming (one semester, then over to English; I still feel the pain in my pocketbook from that young man's decision).
I came to MC (from iTunes and then Media Monkey) initially for the great tagging capabilities for my huge audio (over 700,00 files) and video (over 11,700 files) library, but later for the great playback options: media network via JRemote/M40 Media and client/server set-ups, audio DSP, and MadVR/JRVR, not to mention all the metadata-based ways of viewing and interacting with my library. I've tried Roon a few times, and though I love its eye candy and integration with (especially) AllMusic, I always come back to JRiver after the demo is over, not least because of MC's video capabilities, as I like having everything in one media CENTER.
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50 (soon enough 51)
Been writing code since my first computer - an Atari 800XL in early 1980s, though I now manage global development teams who write code (took the "dark path" somewhere back in my career). most recently I've been writing some Python to parse the media center library (as XML) to feed scripts in windows batch files to mkvtoolsnix for extracting/packaging video files from particles referencing mpls files into MKVs for other video playback devices where I have specific needs that MC doesn't cover (yet).
Can't remember the first version of MC I started with, maybe somewhere in v15 or v16.
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I am 69 70 this month
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110011 ;D
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Going back to much earlier in this thread i.e.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,132040.msg915395.html#msg915395
I present my evidence ;D
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Holy Cow! Congratulations, Craig!
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Outstanding !!!
A true feat of strength. :)
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Holy Cow! Congratulations, Craig!
Outstanding !!!
A true feat of strength. :)
Thanks guys.
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I am a 64 year old Doctor who has used JRiver for I think at least 10 years.
I assumed most people using JRiver were young people.
I may have to re-evaluate that assumption!
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I am a 64 year old Doctor who has used JRiver for I think at least 10 years.
I assumed most people using JRiver were young people.
I may have to re-evaluate that assumption!
There's nothing to "re-evaluate". MC's user base is unequivocally a bunch of old geezers! (That includes me at 62)
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Late 20s here, been using JRiver for... jeeze, maybe a decade and a half now?
It was my gateway drug into digital media after my needs rapidly outgrew what iTunes could offer or handle from a scale and complexity perspective.
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Wait a minute now… You're both young AND female? Are you sure you're not lost?! :o
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Wait a minute now… You're both young AND female? Are you sure you're not lost?! :o
Look, I don't know why I always end up on forums with old dudes talking shop about audio and video presentation but that's where my interests lead me.
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No mystery… us "old dudes" are pretty irresistible!
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54!
I grew up in a time where a single press of one of many buttons started something meaningful. Today in the age of so called one-touch interfaces I spend my time morsing my request using one or two buttons... Yes! Sometimes I feel old!
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As a "legacy" computer programmer (1968 - take that!) in octal I'm 112.
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Well, my driver's license says I'm 60 but my inner goofball says I'm about 23.
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74 here and now. Discovered music as a teenager and the equipment as the way to get to it. Chrystal radios then Heathkit! Have to say that JRiver brings back the fun by access to the magic of digital music. I am enjoying my old hobby more than ever!
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Perspective: My grandfather was born only 15 years after the last Lewis and Clark Expedition member died (Patrick Gass - 1870). Pops graduated from college before the Wright brothers flew and lived on 16 years after Armstrong landed on the moon. Looking over that span I don't feel terribly old.
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This thread was fascinating.
It explains so much about what I'd suspected for so long - that the userbase is composed almost entirely of erstwhile teenage nerds of the 60's-80's instead of the 2000s
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Rub it in.
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Rub it in.
Given the demographic, shall I fetch the Vicks? ;D
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Given the demographic, shall I fetch the Vicks? ;D
It's too late. ;)