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Networks and Remotes => Remotes => Topic started by: Lespaul on March 12, 2013, 10:08:14 am
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JRemote is the first full featured native iOS remote for JRiver Media Center.
The app was developed to offer you full remote control of your JRiver Media Center from any of your iDevices.
Please note that you need JRiver Media Center version 15 or later.
The current version is 2.22.
Link to App Store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jremote/id486222633?l=nb&ls=1&mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jremote/id486222633?l=nb&ls=1&mt=8)
Link to JRemote.net
http://www.jremote.net (http://www.jremote.net)
You can find the old JRemote thread here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.0 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.0)
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Just want to give a quick update on the next version.
I am currently tracking down a couple of bugs that some people are experiencing.
Should be out in a couple of weeks time.
Two new features will headline this release:
- Edit metadata for single or multiple files.
- Local search in all views.
The iPhone version now includes the ability to search from metadata as well as edit.
There are also several small fixes and more polish overall.
The version after this one will feature a complete redesign of the global search.
I am currently working on a feature very similar to the search wizard in MC.
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Exciting! A new thread... Any word on the M4A playback problem for that next version?
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Thanks Les Paul! I look forward to your update.
Best App EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patrick
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100% repeatable crash that I encountered last night:
1. Have a video that has already been played, with the "Resume playback using bookmarks" option in JRiver set to "Ask"
2. Start playback via JRemote. JRemote will now crash indefinitely while that dialog box is up.
Even if you stop playback of this file, JRemote will continue to crash indefinitely.
The only way I have found to stop this crashing, is to hit resume on the video, stop the video, and then start playback locally at the same time as launching JRemote again. If you catch it right, JRemote seems to act as if it had initiated playback and then works correctly again.
If you don't do this, you can be stuck in a neverending crash - even after deleting and reinstalling JRemote it starts crashing as soon as you connect again.
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Looking forward to the next release, I feel I couldn't use mc without J Remote now.. You have done great work.. Also before I had J Remote my girlfriend wouldn't go near mc with a barge pole, it overwhelmed her too much but now she loves mc and J Remote especially as I have it set up with zones in multiple rooms. She used iTunes before but never actually listened to any of her music now it's a fight over who gets control of the speakers each day..
As for the metadata really looking forward to it, will we have the ability to hide fields that we may never wish to see?
The search is going to be great, very useful :)
Sometimes but not too often thankfully when I start a track it just gitches and loops about a seconds worth of music, I then have to restart mc, don't know if it is j remote, mc, or some of the complex views and expressions I use, just thought I'd let you know..
Got one other litte hinderance, that I'd Love to sove.. On the root menu the is the Playlist item, I don't actually use that for me and my girl we both have our own view trees and within them I created our own Playlist menus so we could get to them quicker. For instance I have a smartlist for tracks that are played in the last 24hrs, when I view that smartlist thought the normal menu once songs are finished they appear the view, but looking at the same smartlist through my custom menu for playlist only populates once and any subsequent tracks don't appear
I can only assume you have J remote set to treat the default playlist menu different from other menus, so it continually populates and that other menus aren't trashing the server constantly. If this is so, is there anyway J remote can tell if a menus' type is a playlist group, so it can be treated the same way?
Thanks
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Glynor, I guess the only solution to the m4a problem is to remove the option to stream without transcoding.
There really isn`t much else to do as long as the default iOS player cant play your files.
6233638, thank you for reporting, I will try to replicate it tonight.
Cassangelo, I am not sure I fully understand your problem, but the playlist menu item is not treated any different than other views.
You may choose to remove it from the custom views if you want.
On the iPad version that is, The iPhone version is still locked to a preset list of view. This reminds me that I need to make the iPhone version also populate the menu dynamically.
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Glynor, I guess the only solution to the m4a problem is to remove the option to stream without transcoding.
There really isn`t much else to do as long as the default iOS player cant play your files.
But, it can. The exact same files, transferred to my device via iTunes play just fine. As I mentioned before, these are just regular iTunes purchases.
It happens with ALL iTunes purchases through JRemote, for me.
You can't reproduce it?
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I think I have a better handle on what's going on with switching zones for me when using JRemote.
I have two zones. One is titled DCS-Redbook and the other is titled DCS-DSD.
By adding a second JRiver Media Center server, when the second zone playing, I was able to control the second zone.
While I can switch switch back and forth between zones in MC (an automatic process), the downside is that I now also have to switch back and forth between servers in JRemote (a manual process) in order to control both zones.
Is there a way around this?
Thanks,
Joel
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As everyone here has already said - AMAZING app.
Request for "swipe album art on Now playing screen" to advance to next track on iPhone.
Particularly useful for when I'm driving.
(LesPaul you had said you thought this was a solid idea and do-able a while back, but I guess it got lost in the mix...or given a lower priority)
Not crucial, but if easy to implement, woluld be much appreciated.
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swipe brings up playlist.... which I personally like.
-patrick
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I think I have a better handle on what's going on with switching zones for me when using JRemote.
I have two zones. One is titled DCS-Redbook and the other is titled DCS-DSD.
By adding a second JRiver Media Center server, when the second zone playing, I was able to control the second zone.
While I can switch switch back and forth between zones in MC (an automatic process), the downside is that I now also have to switch back and forth between servers in JRemote (a manual process) in order to control both zones.
Is there a way around this?
Thanks,
Joel
Anyone have any ideas about this issue?
Joel
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Regarding swipe gestures. What about that:
One finger swipe is previous next track.
Two finger swipe changes between album/track view and playlist view and vice versa.
That would be my intuitive behavior. But since the one finger swipe is already used for switching view, it would also be ok to use the two finger swipe for changing track.
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As there was no response on the other thread I would like to try my suggestion again:
Playlists a song is part of:
When listening to music I often would like to know, if that song is already in one or more playlists (I have playlists for different moods, events, etc.). So the idea is to have this information in the tag view, as MC itself also lists the playlists the song is in, in the tags list.
iPhone zone switch on main view:
Then there is another suggestion for the iPhone app. Right now the only way to switch zones is in the "playing now" view, but this is not the right place in my opinion, as "playing now" is zone dependent. I often switch between local and renderer zone, and so I always have to go to playing now first, check if the zone is right, then go back to the main view and select the music I want to hear. From a work-flow point of view, the zone should be seen and selected before the music is selected.
Rating not updated:
And there might be small glitch with the rating system. The rating works, but often delayed and it is not updated in the track lists in JRemote. For example, if I rate a song in playing now cover art section (or tag view) the rating is not shown in the playing now playlist for that song, and if go back to the main view it also not shown. Only if I go back one level in the main view (from the album to the artist, or fromt the playlist to the playlist folder) and open the album or playlist again, then it is reloaded and the rating is shown.
Unstable release(?):
Lastly, I have the feeling, that the latest version with JRiver 146 build is not as stable as before, but I am not perfectly sure about this, or what the reasons really are (I guess it is the latest JRiver version).
Ah, and yes, although I have written it once, I like to repeat it: This app IS amazing. I regard it as one of the best apps, or even the best app, I have seen.
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Exciting! A new thread... Any word on the M4A playback problem for that next version?
Not sure if this is the same problem you have but when I try to play iTunes m4a songs
to my itouch device there is a long pause and then the song starts. JRemote crashes
frequently when skipping through m4a songs.
It looks like JRemote transcodes the m4a to mp3 320 even though I have "stream aac, m4a
and wav files uncompressed. Could this be the issue.
Is there a way to tell JRemote to pass
the m4a file to the device untouched? Is this a failing with JRemote or MediaCenter?
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1 finger or 2 finger swipe to advance track is fine by me, trying to pick out tiny little buttons on an iPhone in a dock down by the gear stick is not a good (current) option (IMHO).
Also to access playlist by clicking the button vs swiping...cliking the button in the top right is EASY to hit : there are no other buttons to hit by accident vs the tiny little buttons all in a row trying to hit blindly while driving for advance track...
Listen - no criticism here, this app is great, but if anyone cares, here's what would make it better for me...(I guess there will always be someone that wants it the way it is and always someone else that wants to change something - ultimately lespaul will decide and I'll make do with whatever that is - Ive already got my money's-worth with this great little app).
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I would love it if there was an option to either swap the progress & volume controls, or even do that and remove the volume controls altogether when it's disabled inside JRiver.
And I am not too keen on the way that the playlist bar only slides out to maybe 80% height of the screen.
I would rather that it was full height and reformatted the current view, rather than overlapping the list.
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Rubberduck0:
Playlists a song is part of:
When listening to music I often would like to know, if that song is already in one or more playlists (I have playlists for different moods, events, etc.). So the idea is to have this information in the tag view, as MC itself also lists the playlists the song is in, in the tags list.
I have not checked this myself, but tag view will display all tags availbale from the server. If it`s not diplayed I will verify that this is not a JRemote issue and contact JRiver.
iPhone zone switch on main view:
Then there is another suggestion for the iPhone app. Right now the only way to switch zones is in the "playing now" view, but this is not the right place in my opinion, as "playing now" is zone dependent. I often switch between local and renderer zone, and so I always have to go to playing now first, check if the zone is right, then go back to the main view and select the music I want to hear. From a work-flow point of view, the zone should be seen and selected before the music is selected.
The space on the iPhone is limited.
However, I have been thinking of going the route of using a slide-in menu instead of the tabbbar at the bottom.
You can see this implemented in mulitple apps like the latest version of spotify and facebook.
There are several benefits to this aproach. Search and zone swithing can reside in this new menu. The tabbar space can be used for other stuff like playcontrols and other controls.
The only potential downside is that it requires one extra click or swipe to select a menu option.
What do you guys think?
Rating not updated:
And there might be small glitch with the rating system. The rating works, but often delayed and it is not updated in the track lists in JRemote. For example, if I rate a song in playing now cover art section (or tag view) the rating is not shown in the playing now playlist for that song, and if go back to the main view it also not shown. Only if I go back one level in the main view (from the album to the artist, or fromt the playlist to the playlist folder) and open the album or playlist again, then it is reloaded and the rating is shown.
Yes, lists are not reloaded when changing ratings. I will implement that soon.
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Glynor, I have never downloaded a single track from iTunes, so i can`t test at the moment.
Are they DRM protected in any way? Have you toggled the setting in JRemote where you choose to have the track transcoded or not?
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I think the best solution for the swipe request is to implement a two finger swipe to change tracks.
Will implement this for the next release (after the next).
BTW, the next MC build will probably include the option to save playlists, so I may release a small update before the bigger search improvement release.
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6233638, in the next version both the volume and progress sliders are visible in the bottom bar. So no more sliding to access the progress slider.
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I had some drm protected tracks that my girlfriend had from iTunes, I ended up just replacing them with non iTunes versions, I found that you needed apples bonjour (or was it QuickTime, no pretty sure it was bonjour), if I can recall correctly otherwise the tracks wouldn't play at all.
But even when it was installed the tracks wouldn't play sometimes when controlling mc directly from the desktop. then when using j remote again if I can recall correctly, this was a while back, the track wouldn't play and whe looking at the desktop mc threw a dialog box up, can't remember exactly what it said but I think it was along the iines of, that it could not connect to the interenet to to check the drm or something or another like that.. But upon clicking ok the track would play. But while that dialog box was up I couldn't even switch track with j remote.
I've never purchased music from iTunes either, so at the time instead of trying to find a solution or posting in the forum. I jut got rid of them.. Hope it helps somewhat..
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6233638, in the next version both the volume and progress sliders are visible in the bottom bar. So no more sliding to access the progress slider.
Awesome, thank you.
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Glynor, I have never downloaded a single track from iTunes, so i can`t test at the moment.
Are they DRM protected in any way? Have you toggled the setting in JRemote where you choose to have the track transcoded or not?
They aren't DRMed (I would NOT buy those).
I haven't tried the transcoding switch yet, but I will (I'll try tonight). If you want to test it yourself, you are still welcome to connect to my server. Connection details are identical to what I sent before. A good, easy to find example set is the album III by Crystal Castles. It should be easy to find in there.
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iPhone zone switch on main view:
Then there is another suggestion for the iPhone app. Right now the only way to switch zones is in the "playing now" view, but this is not the right place in my opinion, as "playing now" is zone dependent. I often switch between local and renderer zone, and so I always have to go to playing now first, check if the zone is right, then go back to the main view and select the music I want to hear. From a work-flow point of view, the zone should be seen and selected before the music is selected.
The space on the iPhone is limited.
However, I have been thinking of going the route of using a slide-in menu instead of the tabbbar at the bottom.
You can see this implemented in mulitple apps like the latest version of spotify and facebook.
There are several benefits to this aproach. Search and zone swithing can reside in this new menu. The tabbar space can be used for other stuff like playcontrols and other controls.
The only potential downside is that it requires one extra click or swipe to select a menu option.
Ive been feeling this one for a while.... It isn't often that you want to change Zones while looking at playing now. It would almost be better anywhere else. I have always wished it was available on every page/view in some way. Your bottom swipe sounds ideal. No big deal for one more "step". In fact it would be less actions if your are anywhere else but Playing Now.
Thanks Les Paul!!!!
-Patrick
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Thanks for the reply.
Slide-in menu: yeah, one vote from me
Volume & Progress slider: I also appreciate a change there. As I pointed out before, it happens to me sometimes that I change the volume instead of progress (yes, very funny, if I want to jump to the end of the track...;)), because in one view the volume is at the bottom, and in the other view the progress slider is there. The flexibility to handle this, my tiny brain cannot provide... ;)
One and two-finger swipe: I think a good solution
Playlists a song is part of:
Mmh, an entirely new custom field I created within JRiver is shown in JRemote tag view, but the playlists, which are shown in JRiver are not shown in JRemote. So, this would mean that JRiver does provide the track information pretty randomly. I hope they will change this.
However, if I understand you right, then the JRiver API will soon enable adding tracks to playlists. This would be really, really great. But if adding is possible, then removing will too. And for this, you will need to provide a list of playlists, where the song is part of, anyway. So, maybe it is better to wait until the new API is out and if this is implemented into JRemote, my request may be covered with this too.
By the way, I think the slide-in menu would also be a good place for handling adding and removing to/from playlists. But wait, why should I make a suggestion here? You have proved very profoundly, that you really know how to design an excellent UI. ;)
Update ratings:
Is it possible to update only the rated song instead of the whole list? Just thinking in respect to performance and responsiveness. What I mean is, that you update the track info for this one song and then change the rating info in all the views only locally. Or is this what you planned to do anyway?
Maximum Volume:
May I suggest this again? An option to set the maximum volume, where the right end of the volume slider represents this maximum value. The idea came up, because my Denon AVR uses a non-linear volume control. A volume of 7 to 10 is already good enough under normal circumstances. Especially on the iPhone it is very difficult to set the volume. The easiest solution would be to limit the volume. This may also be useful for other purposes, where you want to make sure the music is not played too loud.
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Glynor, I have never downloaded a single track from iTunes, so i can`t test at the moment.
Are they DRM protected in any way? Have you toggled the setting in JRemote where you choose to have the track transcoded or not?
A really great App ;D
I am using an iPod Touch 4G. iTunes has not had any DRM on music for 5 or 6 years. I have not had any trouble with playback of music from iTunes. I always transcode any lossless formats to a wave file as My Onkyo AVR will not play them.
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Hi All,
First of all, great app! It makes jriver a lot easier to use.
I have a simple questions for everyone. I'd like to have my list of albums with me when I go shopping for CDs (here in the U.S. and overseas). Is there a way that jremote can remember the albums away from the server? I figure if I go to a cd store and I want to see if I have the album already or not, I can pull out jremote and look it up. Is this possible with jremote? If not, are there other solutions?
Thank you everyone.
Sailor
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Sailor,
Set up the "Global Connection" and have your library on the go for browsing and most importantly, STREAMING to you iOS device!!!!$$$$$
-Patrick
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Discogs does exactly what you want. The Discogs website is a treasure you open a free account and then add all of your the records, CD's, MP3 etc into your personal data base you can share this data base. You can buy and sell through this site, have a wish list, but my main use for it is to look up albums from there you learn what was released, by who, the date, country, catalog number, album art, track listing, everything. etc and in many cases you will find reviews of these individual releases. Plus there is a listing of anyone who has these releases for sale. There is a free app for iPhone/touch/iPad called Crate Digger which is powered by Discogs. I just loaded it myself as I never thought to look for an app there are Android apps as well. But you can access your Discogs account through your smart phone's browser.
http://www.discogs.com/
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Had some problems streaming files to my iPad earlier tonight - it would play the first second or two of a track, then skip to the next one and play it in its entirety. Then play the first couple of seconds of the next track, and play the one after that in its entirety.
This happened with multiple albums, and opening up JRemote and going back a track allowed the ones that were skipped over to play back correctly - with a 50% chance that it would skip the one after that.
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Had some problems streaming files to my iPad earlier tonight - it would play the first second or two of a track, then skip to the next one and play it in its entirety. Then play the first couple of seconds of the next track, and play the one after that in its entirety.
This happened with multiple albums, and opening up JRemote and going back a track allowed the ones that were skipped over to play back correctly - with a 50% chance that it would skip the one after that.
Are you sure that this has something to do with JRemote? If you stream (same playlist, same renderer, same server) your music without JRemote using JRiver directly, does this happen too?
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Because it is Wish-a-Wipe ;) time right now, I would like to suggest another one:
Three finger swipe to change back and forth between playing now and home/main view.
I noticed some issues with the thumbnail/cover view. It is difficult do explain. I'll do my best:
Set-up:
* JRiver is set to ignore articles.
* JRemote is set NOT to ignore articles.
* In the main view the thumbnail view is active (or cover view, i.e. not one of the two list views)
Then the list is shown unsorted, i.e. with ignored articles (as reported by JRiver). I cannot change to a sorted list as the button is grayed out. If I still press the sort button, nothing happens of course, except that the index bar on the right side disappears (comes back if I change to another folder).
This does not happen when changing to one of the list views. Then the initial view is the sorted view and the index bar is shown. If I change to the unsorted view, the index bar disappears (which makes sense of course). So everything behaves as it should.
I do not understand why the thumbnail view behaves differently, it is just another representation of the same list. It think this is broken. And this leads to some strange effects (this was actually how I discovered the problem):
With the set-up as described above: When viewing a list of artists and clicking on T on the right side of the index bar, the view does not jump to the artists with T, but to e.g. A. Because there is e.g. "The All-American Rejects". This happens of course as there is an index bar with an unsorted list, and the view jumps to the first occurrence of T, which is among the artists starting with A.
Suggestion:
The thumbnail view should behave as the list views, i.e. have the option for sorted/unsorted and the index bar is only shown in sorted mode.
And another minor thing:
The track numbering (track # on CD, or sequential number) in the slide-in playlist on the main/home view does not follow the numbering in playing now. As the number style cannot be changed in the slide-in tab, I think it would be best to show the same numbering as set in playing now.
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I apologize upfront for "spamming" this thread. I only have the best intentions in mind, really.
Because right now the discussion about swiping is active, I cannot hold my thoughts about that (after I really thought about that last night):
An important principle I would follow as much as possible, is to have the same user experience on the iPhone and on the iPad.
Another principle for me would be to stick to common gestures (or UI features), as people already know them and somehow expect them in every app.
Having said this, I do have a problem with the one finger swipe for changing between cover view and playlist on the iPhone, as this breaks both principles. On the iPad it is the common "Delete" (element from list) gesture and I think this is good. On the iPhone I would like to have the same behavior.
To make it short, here are my suggestions:
* One finger swipe left/right: delete a track from the playlist (does nothing in other views)
* Two finger swipe left/right: change between playlist and cover/track view (used on the home/main view it brings up the playlist view; alternatively it could bring up the new slide-in menu planned for the iPhone, but I think the first option is better)
* Two finger swipe up/down: go to previous (up) and next (down) track, where this gesture should work in all views (I think up and down is the most intuitive gesture, as it represents the direction you move within the playlist, i.e. up and down)
* Three finger swipe left/right: flip playlist and main/home view
* Three finger swipe up/down: bring out the new slide-in menu as planned to be implemented on the iPhone
Having said this, I leave it to the full discretion of Lespaul to implement the swipe gestures as s/he sees fit. I have no doubt that the final solution will be good enough for me. 8)
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The ipad and iPhone are 2 very different devices with 2 very different primary uses.
My request for swipe to change tracks is based on safety.
The number of people that listen to music from their phones in the car far out-weighs those that do the same (if any) from their iPad.
The UI for ipad and iphone is very different based on its screen real estate and the fact that it is mainly used in landscape.
I dont see any need to standardise gestures unless it makes ease-of-use sense.
IMHO gestures should be to simplify common actions.
The most common actions should be given the simplest gestures.
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Are you sure that this has something to do with JRemote? If you stream (same playlist, same renderer, same server) your music without JRemote using JRiver directly, does this happen too?
I don't have anything else to stream to. But AirPlay/iTunes Home Sharing has never given me any problems. (802.11n wifi to the iPad, gigabit connected to the PC)
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The ipad and iPhone are 2 very different devices with 2 very different primary uses.
My request for swipe to change tracks is based on safety.
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The most common actions should be given the simplest gestures.
The fact, that iPhone and iPad are very different in some respect does not mean that it doesn't make sense to equalize as much as possible on both devices. And only give a different look and feel where it is necessary.
I would think that common and learned gestures should not be changed, even if for one app this means the most common action is not the simplest gesture. For example the two finger scroll on the Mac. What if every application would use this gesture differently (for Safari scrolling, for Word zooming, etc.). Would drive me crazy.
But in this case we are not only talking about sticking to common gestures between different apps, here we have different behavior within the same app on different devices. Cannot think of any other app which has this.
In addition I would also regard a two finger swipe up and down (anywhere on any screen) at least not more difficult or dangerous than the one finger swipe (which works only on the cover view). MHO.
However, I think there is no right or wrong and no solution will satisfy all. So "someone" ;) has to decide and hopefully most of us like it...
I don't have anything else to stream to. But AirPlay/iTunes Home Sharing has never given me any problems. (802.11n wifi to the iPad, gigabit connected to the PC)
Does this happen if you play these songs directly with JRiver (=renderer)? Or try 8player lite (free) and play the songs on the iPad/iPhone with it.
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"The fact, that iPhone and iPad are very different in some respect does not mean that it doesn't make sense to equalize as much as possible on both devices. And only give a different look and feel where it is necessary."
Disagree - take a look at the app running on ipad and then on iphone they look completely different as they fully utilise two different devices with 2 different primary uses - I would suggest that the ipad is primarily being used as a system controller in the home and the iphone as a remote streaming device out of home.
As even Tim Cook points out, just stretching an iphone app to fit an ipad screen is no way to fully take advantage of the screen real estate - they are two different devices.
I would also direct attention to how spotify utilises swipes - its a single swipe horizontally to advance track...im sure they went through the same 2 finger vs 3 finger, up vs down discussions too before settling on where they have...
Rubberducky, you and I need to agree to disagree - what we do agree on is that a gesture for advance track would be a good thing, lets leave it at that. :)
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Does this happen if you play these songs directly with JRiver (=renderer)? Or try 8player lite (free) and play the songs on the iPad/iPhone with it.
No, playback is fine inside JRiver. I will check out 8player later.
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@toomanybarts: Agree to disagree.
Although I think our opinions are not so far from each other as it may seem. I do not say, that iPad and iPhone should look the same as much as possible. I think the principles should be the same as much as possible. And this is true for almost all apps. One principle for example is the separation into three views: the main/home view, the playlist view and the track view. This is equal on both devices and I think also you will agree that this makes sense. However this has nothing to do how these views are displayed. This is done in different ways, as on the iPhone you have either the playlist or the track view, but on the iPad both are together on one screen. Another principle is that you can rate a song on the track view or within the tags. This is also true for both devices. I think it is clear what I want to say. And I think that so far we share the opinion.
The difference may be in the view of what is a principle worth keeping equal on both devices. IMHO to associate the same function with the same gesture on both devices is such a principle.
And only then the question is to raise, which gesture is best for which function? It seems there is no 100% common gesture for a function, but swiping sideways is pretty common for deleting an element from a list. Although I have to be more accurate. In some cases it is a swipe to the left (from the right side).
So this would make room for an enhanced suggestion from me:
* One finger swipe to the left: delete form playling now
* One finger swipe to the right: bring up the new slide-in menu on the iPhone (on the iPad it could also be used for deleting)
So, and this will be my last posting on that subject. This does not mean that I would not like to discuss this further, or that I disrespect your (or anybody else's) opinion. Not at all. A good and civilized discussion is worth a lot, especially in these days, if you look into most forums.
I just think that there are much more important issues to be solved and discussed and I do not want to draw further attention away from the other issues. I hope we can agree on that... ;D
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Just curious.... why is a swipe to advance the track is any easier/better than hitting the "next" button. I personally dont dig on, and can never remember, multifinger taps and swipes. Keep it simple. Anything function that can be swiped should also be available via a button in my opinion.
Thanks,
Patrick
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rubberduck - agreed, we're not so far away. I didnt want to over-complicate this : this was supposed to be a minor request! :)
pcstockton - see my first post on this further up the page - when driving a car and listening to music on the "Now Playing" screen, trying to hit the next track button at the bottom of the screen is really hard as there are 3 other buttons in close proximity.
Hitting the home button is easy - its on its own at the top left of the screen.
Hitting the playlist button is easy : its also on its own, this time at the top right of the screen.
I'm not suggesting not having a button - I was merely asking for a simple way to advance tracks for those of us that use their iphone in the car from a safety aspect.
However the gesture is implemented - and lespaul says he agrees and it will be in in a couple of releases, once some real issues have been resolved:) - I'll be happy with.
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Hello Lespaul,
Finally JRiver team included a SDK option to link and unlink zones!!! Could we expect the option to link and unlink zones in your next version of JRemote?
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when driving a car and listening to music on the "Now Playing" screen, trying to hit the next track button at the bottom of the screen is really hard
Really hard?? It is not "really hard". But whatever. If you want swipes and LesPaul can accommodate you then yay! LesPaul is amazing huh?
To me it isn't as "really hard" as remembering how many fingers to use and which way I am supposed to swipe, especially when the phone is upside down in my drink holder because the earphone out is on the bottom now.
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Well maybe not "really hard", like brain surgery is really hard, but shall we say "inconvenient" - better?!!
Yes lespaul is great, as is jremote.
Listen, I dont want to be a contortionist either! Keep the buttons (I never said remove them btw) and you're happy.
Introduce one simple finger swipe for next track, I'm happy.
Have a 6 finger salute while standing on your head to implement Zone 3, with Dolby 5.1 and Ape playback only and Rubberduck is happy! :-*
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Sometimes it is hard not to reply... ;D
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i love it ;D
(Was hoping you'd have a laugh!)
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Glynor, I have never downloaded a single track from iTunes, so i can`t test at the moment.
Are they DRM protected in any way? Have you toggled the setting in JRemote where you choose to have the track transcoded or not?
I'm finally getting around to updating you on this...
Flipping the toggle to allow MC to transcode these solves the playback issue. However, it is odd. I tried setting MC up with higher quality MP3 streaming, which causes the transcoded MP3 files to be roughly the same bitrate as the original M4A files. Even with it set this way, JRemote still streams them fine if the transcoding is enabled (and fails with it disabled). So, it isn't outbound bandwidth limits on my home connection. That "fits" because when it fails, it always fails exactly the same way. The song starts playing, plays for 1-3 seconds or so, and then the app freezes.
In any case, I don't particularly care about streaming them native, so I'll leave that bit flipped on.
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Primarily what I'd be using the iPad for would be controlling my install of JRiver on my HTPC that is hooked up to my home theater. Does J Remote handle adding music to the current play que and reordering/removing songs on the play que easily? I couldn't tell 100% from looking at the screenshots/feature list. Thanks
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Primarily what I'd be using the iPad for would be controlling my install of JRiver on my HTPC that is hooked up to my home theater. Does J Remote handle adding music to the current play que and reordering/removing songs on the play que easily? I couldn't tell 100% from looking at the screenshots/feature list. Thanks
Yes, it does all that perfectly. Your setting is the comfort zone of MC and JRemote as I see it.
However, regarding removing tracks from the playing now "easily" you have to ask toomanybarts... Strike! ;D
(@jron: ignore that, it's just an insider joke)
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Yes, it does all that perfectly. Your setting is the comfort zone of MC and JRemote as I see it.
However, regarding removing tracks from the playing now "easily" you have to ask toomanybarts... Strike! ;D
(@jron: ignore that, it's just an insider joke)
Awesome thanks :)
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Great app. Picked up the OSX JRiver MC the other day, picked up JRemote the next.
Works amazing, especially how quick it is.
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A couple of quick questions. I have been running this app since late last year. Is it worth updating to the latest version and does it cost?
Secondly, when new music is uploaded to the server, jremote doesn't show these albums. Is there a setting I've not enabled or something else I've overlooked or got wrong?
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
Brilliant app! Really very good. Though I do have one problem;
If I leave the JRemote app without using it for a while so the iPad3 goes to 'sleep', i.e is locked. When i return to the app, it either takes a very long time to become responsive, or it goes into a reconnecting state. It's very annoying as usually I have to wait at least 20secs for the app to respond again which sucks if I just want to skip the track etc... Is there a solution to this issue; perhaps a MC/windows setting or something? I'm using MC18.0.129 and Win7x86SP1.
Thanks!
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Hi,
Brilliant app! Really very good. Though I do have one problem;
If I leave the JRemote app without using it for a while so the iPad3 goes to 'sleep', i.e is locked. When i return to the app, it either takes a very long time to become responsive, or it goes into a reconnecting state. It's very annoying as usually I have to wait at least 20secs for the app to respond again which sucks if I just want to skip the track etc... Is there a solution to this issue; perhaps a MC/windows setting or something? I'm using MC18.0.129 and Win7x86SP1.
Thanks!
Just enable the setting in JRemote to prevent the screen from dimming.
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Hello,
i wakeup my audio PC with JRemote via WOL. Mediacenter (the PC) needs about 10-12 seconds to be online.
The problem is, that JRemote allways get's into a timeout although the PC and JRiver is already online for for some time past.
Every time then i have to hit the reconnect to server. immediately JRemote is connected.
Is it possible to improve this behavior?
Perhaps to set a shorter timeout at the beginning and after that a second or a third automatik retry to connect to Mediacenter. Perhaps it shoud be configurable in the settingsdialog.
regards faster
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Hi,
Brilliant app! Really very good. Though I do have one problem;
If I leave the JRemote app without using it for a while so the iPad3 goes to 'sleep', i.e is locked. When i return to the app, it either takes a very long time to become responsive, or it goes into a reconnecting state. It's very annoying as usually I have to wait at least 20secs for the app to respond again which sucks if I just want to skip the track etc... Is there a solution to this issue; perhaps a MC/windows setting or something? I'm using MC18.0.129 and Win7x86SP1.
Thanks!
Unfortunately I do not have a solution for you (and I am not sure if turn-off sleep is a good one). I just can tell you that this is not normal. The reconnecting yes, but the time span is way too long. It takes about 3-4 sec in most cases. So I guess there is something in your set-up, which causes this. Do you also experience slow response in other apps? Maybe the WLAN is not working good (many other WLANs around?). Or the PC where JRiver is running on is slow/too busy. if you control JRiver directly on your PC does it also take longer to change a track or jump to a certain position?
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A couple of quick questions. I have been running this app since late last year. Is it worth updating to the latest version and does it cost?
Secondly, when new music is uploaded to the server, jremote doesn't show these albums. Is there a setting I've not enabled or something else I've overlooked or got wrong?
Thanks in advance
Please keep in mind, that JRemote is a 'Remote' app, so what JRiver does not have JRemote does not provide. First you should check if everything is OK within JRiver, i.e. are those albums present there?
If you are sure the issue is with JRemote, then you need to know, that JRemote does not update the current browse list automatically. Try to switch to another folder and then go back where you would expect the albums to appear. If they still do not show up, then try a reconnect: Go to settings and click on the server to connect again. I am very sure that you will see the albums after that (but - of course - only if they are present in JRiver).
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it the server is running when you add new music, in my experience you need to restart the server to have it show up in JRemote.
-Patrick
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it the server is running when you add new music, in my experience you need to restart the server to have it show up in JRemote.
-Patrick
No, you don't. You just need to force JRemote to reload the contents of a folder, either by changing the folder or by reconnecting to the server.
(Note: restarting the server also works, because this forces JRemote to reconnect automatically.)
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Unfortunately I do not have a solution for you (and I am not sure if turn-off sleep is a good one). I just can tell you that this is not normal. The reconnecting yes, but the time span is way too long. It takes about 3-4 sec in most cases. So I guess there is something in your set-up, which causes this. Do you also experience slow response in other apps? Maybe the WLAN is not working good (many other WLANs around?). Or the PC where JRiver is running on is slow/too busy. if you control JRiver directly on your PC does it also take longer to change a track or jump to a certain position?
Well I tried the setting to prevent the iPad locking while JRemote is running. This fixes the issue, however not a great fix for my battery life as you can imagine! I'll try resetting the iPad network settings in case that has something to do with it; but web browsing etc from the iPad works just fine after unlocking. The JRiver is fairly slow machine, it's a 2006 Mac Mini (running windows) but it's only job literally is to run JRiver. There is nothing else running on it at all! All the other machines in the house are wired; it's only a couple of phones and an iPad that use it. It's a shame as the problem didnt exist when I first used JRemote. Kind of odd... but searching around there are other people having the same issue I think.
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Well I tried the setting to prevent the iPad locking while JRemote is running. This fixes the issue, however not a great fix for my battery life as you can imagine! I'll try resetting the iPad network settings in case that has something to do with it; but web browsing etc from the iPad works just fine after unlocking. The JRiver is fairly slow machine, it's a 2006 Mac Mini (running windows) but it's only job literally is to run JRiver. There is nothing else running on it at all! All the other machines in the house are wired; it's only a couple of phones and an iPad that use it. It's a shame as the problem didnt exist when I first used JRemote. Kind of odd... but searching around there are other people having the same issue I think.
I only can give you some recommendations:
* First upgrade to the newest build of JRiver (currently 158, see thread (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79456.0)). Since these are unofficial versions, there is a small risk involved, so you have to decide. But in most cases the number of fixes outweigh the number of new bugs... (just a joke) ;)
* I think you will get more response from the developers (of either app) if you can narrow down the cause somewhat more. Most importantly, can you rule out JRiver as the cause? If you say that there are others with the same problem maybe you can find out, if there is something in common, e.g. with which version of JRemote (or JRiver) did the problem start.
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Would allowing the app to stay running in the background solve this issue completely?
http://blog.dkaminsky.info/2013/01/27/keep-your-ios-app-running-in-background-forever/
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How do I troubleshoot, least wise provide more information regarding the MC18 (windows 7) server quitting while JRemote steams music to my iPhone? That is, I imagine the problem could either be with the MC media server or with JRemote(?)
Usually, and somewhat consistently, a track will finish and the next not start. I'll not be able to do anything with JR to change the situation, and if I restart JR the media server no longer responds(?)
:(
EDIT: This is the morning after, and I just checked the MC's media server. Its last post was 1030pm, which is when it went dead on me with JR. I stopped and restarted the server ... no response from JR. I stopped/restarted MC18 ... no response from JR. It wasn't until I rebooted my computer that JR finally responded.
One caveat that only the people at JRemote and JRiver know the answer for. When I did reboot, Windows 7 asked me to ensure MC18 was allowed to make changes to the computer. Apparently MC18, build 156 had been updated to build 158 during a previous restart of MC. I have no idea if this would have had a bearing on JR working properly with MC(?)
Edit2: Well ... it cannot be the media server's version ... JR quit on me again last night ... only 2 songs into my selection (an album). Please advise as to what info you need for troubleshooting this behaviour ... I'd really rather be using JRemote!
Thank you for your excellent support! :)
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This app is awesome. So glad I chose it instead of monkeymote. It's pretty much perfect.
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Hey Lespaul is it possible for you to replace the ipad task bar music controls with J Remote controls? Or stop the controls from controlling apples app and control j remote? It would be handy when using other apps if you want to turn the volume up or change track, a quick swipe up, change track and then straight back to the app I was using without having to fully open j remote..
I hope this is possible but I suspect that apple have locked all developers out of this to force people to use their app instead..
Any info on when the next update will be out? Heart sinks everything I see a new update and it's not j remote, party because the apple store is so slow sometimes..
Thanks
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... in the next version both the volume and progress sliders are visible in the bottom bar. ...
Hmmm(?!) ... Lespaul hasn't checked on this JRemote support thread for a month(?) I hope it's nothing serious!
Any problems regarding support are understandable ... care to give us a status report(?)
TIA :)
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I can't figure out how to create playlists in JRemote. Can it be done with the current version or do I need to wait for an update?
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Thanks for the new version!
A couple of things I noted.
The handling of long titles that has to be wrapped and the list, list with thumbs and just thumbs buttons has improved. There is just one issue left: In landscape mode enter an album with a name that has to be wrapped into two lines. The buttons are shown. Switch to portrait mode and the buttons are gone (but if you enter the same album in portrait mode the buttons are there).
The new edit tag field function says that the JRemote field Released is the MC Date field. It is actually the MC Year field. The Date field, with the full release date (1999-03-08 instead of just the year displayed by the JRemote field), is unfortunately nowhere to be found in JRemote.
The metadata search function:
a) Searching a field with a ; separated list of items (A; B; C) yields no results. Perhaps JRemote could act as MC and in this case search only on the first, primary, item (if it is not possible to search for the entire list).
b) Searching by the album artist field on the album artist "Sara Isaksson & Rebecka Törnqvist" yields also the album artists "Sara Isaksson & Anders Widmark" and "Sara Isaksson". I do not know if this is the intended behaviour.
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Really enjoying this app! Thanks.
I've reported this in the past.
MC fields have a "Name" that can be assigned a different "Display" name. This is a very nice feature that allows one to polish views without having to delete and create fields to change its displayed name.
JRemote shows "Name" rather than "Display". I think it should show "Display" to be consistent with how MC behaves.
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Hi Guys, sorry about not being here for a while. I will try to check in more often.
The new version is out, please report any bugs.
Chauncey:
You can save playlists in the new version
vagskal:
Thank you for the feedback, I will take a look at these issues.
I don`t quite understand this though:
In landscape mode enter an album with a name that has to be wrapped into two lines. The buttons are shown. Switch to portrait mode and the buttons are gone (but if you enter the same album in portrait mode the buttons are there).
shAf:
Please send me a mail about your current situation. I have been really busy lately, so have been slow with support.
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Hi Guys, sorry about not being here for a while. I will try to check in more often.
The new version is out, please report any bugs.
Chauncey:
You can save playlists in the new version
vagskal:
Thank you for the feedback, I will take a look at these issues.
I don`t quite understand this though:
In landscape mode enter an album with a name that has to be wrapped into two lines. The buttons are shown. Switch to portrait mode and the buttons are gone (but if you enter the same album in portrait mode the buttons are there).
shAf:
Please send me a mail about your current situation. I have been really busy lately, so have been slow with support.
Hello Lespaul, could you please add an option to link/unlink zones in JRemote? Now JRiver supports this feature. It could be a simple check box next to zones we want to link/unlink.
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nickba, I Just noticed a few days ago that the API now supports linking and unlinking zones.
A problem with the current implementation is that there is no way to get the current link configuration.
This means that you would be linking and unlinking zones blindly. After a short while you would have no idea which zones are linked or not.
Anyway, I will add the possibility to link and unlink, probably with a drag and drop interface.
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You can save playlists in the new version
:) :D :D :D :D :D ;D
One question: Is there a way to get more than one line of text below an album thumb ?
for Example:
1st line: Album Artist
2nd line: Album
2rd line: Bitrate
Regards
Eberhard
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nickba, I Just noticed a few days ago that the API now supports linking and unlinking zones.
A problem with the current implementation is that there is no way to get the current link configuration.
This means that you would be linking and unlinking zones blindly. After a short while you would have no idea which zones are linked or not.
Anyway, I will add the possibility to link and unlink, probably with a drag and drop interface.
Thanks for replying.
I see. I just posted a support topic asking JRiver team to add the zone link/unlink status to the SDK/API.
You can post some requests/comments there:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79969.0
EDIT: Lespaul, Matt replied above topic!! Here is the answer:
In a coming build:
SDK: Added ZoneID, ZoneName, and LinkedZones to MCWS/v1/Playback/Info response.
Also, to make sure you know, MCWS/v1/Playback/LinkZones and MCWS/v1/Playback/UnlinkZones were added recently.
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Chauncey:
You can save playlists in the new version
Outstanding! I can't wait to try this out. This was one of the reasons I am switching from iTunes; iTunes 11 and their latest remote app were horrible.
I downloaded the JRemote update. I don't know if this means anything or not, but the App Store says it's version 2.30. The updated app says it's version 2.27.
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In landscape mode enter an album with a name that has to be wrapped into two lines. The buttons are shown. Switch to portrait mode and the buttons are gone (but if you enter the same album in portrait mode the buttons are there).
What I mean is that the line wrapping/showing of the top right buttons does not really work in portrait mode when you turn your iPad from landscape to portrait mode in a file list view (but it works if you are in portrait mode when you enter the file list view). Hopefully the attached screenshots can clarify (I was in the landscape mode shown in the first image and then turned the iPad to portrait mode with the result shown in the second image).
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Ratings Not Working
« Reply #944 on: February 26, 2013, 11:55:28 am »
I'm using iPod Touch, model MC540C, firmware version 6.0.1 (10A523) with latest JRemote. For some reason adding ratings does not work. I have show ratings enabled. I can see ratings of previously rated tracks. I can access the add rating feature and it appears to let me add a rating.
The problem is the ratings are not being applied. Once the track finishes playing and next track starts, checking in playlist shows no rating. Checking JRiver itself also shows no rating being applied. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling JRemote, no change. I have all my sync settings to server setup correctly. I had been thinking this was a problem with some settings in J River so I tried My River and ratings work correctly. Based on all this I can only assume this is a problem with J Remote.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks.
I posted this in the original JRemote thread but received no response. I was hoping the next release would resolve this issue but after upgrading to new version today, I see the same issue. Ratings still not updating. As a workaround since this has been going on, when viewing the current playlist, if I repeatedly click on delete for any song (in edit mode), JRemote will eventually lock up and exit. When I restart JRemote, any new ratings or rating changes applied to the current playlist prior to the lockup will now be showing.
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Is there a way to modify the current playlist in portrait mode? I keep having to turn my ipad into landscape mode to see all the options. Kind of annoying as I rarely use landscape mode and my ipad cover flops around everywhere.
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I love this ap & am pleased to see updates. However, one issue I am experiencing that i did not have before the update is shuffling. I prefer to listen to each album in the sequence it was intended, in most cases. The shuffling function is actually quite nice but I'd prefer that it perform after a manual setting. I cannot figure out how to turn it off. I have selected off in one of the ap areas but it continues to play this way. Am I missing something?
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The new version is lovely!
Really love the metadata editor, a perfect companion for my classical music listenings.
Is there a way to add a new field in the editor, providing it is supported by the server?
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Outstanding! I can't wait to try this out. This was one of the reasons I am switching from iTunes; iTunes 11 and their latest remote app were horrible.
I downloaded the JRemote update. I don't know if this means anything or not, but the App Store says it's version 2.30. The updated app says it's version 2.27.
I tried creating a playlist and it didn't work out very well. I changed the action button to "add to playlist" and started picking songs. But every time I picked a song it would start playing immediately; as if the action button was set to "play now". The best I could do was to play a song, change the action button to "play next" to queue songs and then edit the now playing list.
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The new version is lovely!
Really love the metadata editor, a perfect companion for my classical music listenings.
Is there a way to add a new field in the editor, providing it is supported by the server?
You should be able to add a new field by changing the "Tag Name" value. I have had some mixed experience with this, but please try it out.
I love this ap & am pleased to see updates. However, one issue I am experiencing that i did not have before the update is shuffling. I prefer to listen to each album in the sequence it was intended, in most cases. The shuffling function is actually quite nice but I'd prefer that it perform after a manual setting. I cannot figure out how to turn it off. I have selected off in one of the ap areas but it continues to play this way. Am I missing something?
I am looking into this issue. Seems like some actions are shuffled and other not. Will get back to you on this.
I posted this in the original JRemote thread but received no response. I was hoping the next release would resolve this issue but after upgrading to new version today, I see the same issue. Ratings still not updating. As a workaround since this has been going on, when viewing the current playlist, if I repeatedly click on delete for any song (in edit mode), JRemote will eventually lock up and exit. When I restart JRemote, any new ratings or rating changes applied to the current playlist prior to the lockup will now be showing.
lasker98, do you have authentication enabled inside MC? JRemote should give you a warning if you don`t have it, but please check.
Authentication is required for saving metadata.
Is there a way to modify the current playlist in portrait mode? I keep having to turn my ipad into landscape mode to see all the options. Kind of annoying as I rarely use landscape mode and my ipad cover flops around everywhere.
I am adding the same functionality to portrait soon. I know many people are using portrait only.
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I tried creating a playlist and it didn't work out very well. I changed the action button to "add to playlist" and started picking songs. But every time I picked a song it would start playing immediately; as if the action button was set to "play now". The best I could do was to play a song, change the action button to "play next" to queue songs and then edit the now playing list.
I will look into this later today.
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Vagskal, I see what you are talking about now. Sorry about that, will fix soon.
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Hello Lespaul,
One question: Is there a way to get more than one line of text below an album thumb ?
for Example:
1st line: Album Artist
2nd line: Album
2rd line: Bitrate
Regards
Eberhard
PS: the playlist feature is brilliant!
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_noel_, are you talking about the "now playing" list?
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No, not the now playing list.
I'm talking about the "main" screen, where you can see the album thumbnails and you select e.g. a album for the playlist.
Here there is only one line of text below the album thumbs, I think it would be nice to have 2 or 3 lines of text, like in my example.
I've tried to configure JR this way, but never got it to see a line break below the thumbs in the text, only one line of text.
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Quote from: lasker98 on Yesterday at 02:14:36 pm
I posted this in the original JRemote thread but received no response. I was hoping the next release would resolve this issue but after upgrading to new version today, I see the same issue. Ratings still not updating. As a workaround since this has been going on, when viewing the current playlist, if I repeatedly click on delete for any song (in edit mode), JRemote will eventually lock up and exit. When I restart JRemote, any new ratings or rating changes applied to the current playlist prior to the lockup will now be showing.
lasker98, do you have authentication enabled inside MC? JRemote should give you a warning if you don`t have it, but please check.
Authentication is required for saving metadata.
Yes, authentication is enabled.
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You should be able to add a new field by changing the "Tag Name" value. I have had some mixed experience with this, but please try it out.
Thanks Lespaul, I've tried and did work! Cool! I can now add my notes while listening -)
A small glitch: it looks like the tag value is truncated if it contains the character '&'. Something like 'Trio sonata for 2 violins & continuo' is truncated to 'Trio sonata for 2 violins '. I guess the '&' need to be escaped somehow.
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Shuffle is a big bummer right now. Everything i play gets shuffled no matter what I do. Can't turn it off. Never happened before update. LesPaul said he will look into it. Can't wait!
I am only 3 weeks new with this ap but it's by far the best audio ap I have used. And I'm just beginning to understand all of the flexibility with JRiver & JRemote. I need to find an easy collection of detailed explanations of what it will do & how to do it. While i get around quite well I am not an advanced user....need specific direction in many cases.
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I downloaded the JRemote update. I don't know if this means anything or not, but the App Store says it's version 2.30. The updated app says it's version 2.27.
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The same also for me. I also delete the application and reinstall it but still the version is 2.27. The most important is that he new feature of load and save playlist are not in the menu
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I love this ap & am pleased to see updates. However, one issue I am experiencing that i did not have before the update is shuffling. I prefer to listen to each album in the sequence it was intended, in most cases. The shuffling function is actually quite nice but I'd prefer that it perform after a manual setting. I cannot figure out how to turn it off. I have selected off in one of the ap areas but it continues to play this way. Am I missing something?
I have the exact issue. The Artist/Album screen is defaulted to "Play all tracks shuffled" and no matter what you do, it always comes out shuffled on the playlist. This is new and wasn't the case in prior versions. Here is a screen shot of the issue (see upper mid-screen on the left).
Best,
John
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2.27 is the last version, I just forgot to update the text in the app. Not the first time.
If you can`t see the save/load playlist additions it probably means that you are not running MC18.
Regarding the shuffle issue. I am still trying to figure it out. To those having the problem:
- Is this happening with all albums
- Are you running Mac or Windows version
- Are you using iPhone or iPad
When testing yesterday I could not reproduce it, but I have seen it happening before. I figured it was just a bug in the Mac version that I was testing at the time.
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Lespaul,
Just in case you didn't see my last post:
SDK: Added ZoneID, ZoneName, and LinkedZones to MCWS/v1/Playback/Info response.
So now you can have a feedback from JRiver regarding linked zones.
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2.27 is the last version, I just forgot to update the text in the app. Not the first time.
If you can`t see the save/load playlist additions it probably means that you are not running MC18.
Regarding the shuffle issue. I am still trying to figure it out. To those having the problem:
- Is this happening with all albums
- Are you running Mac or Windows version
- Are you using iPhone or iPad
When testing yesterday I could not reproduce it, but I have seen it happening before. I figured it was just a bug in the Mac version that I was testing at the time.
Hi Lespaul.
I'm using an iPhone 5 with MC 18 on a capsv3 Zuma server running windows 8..
It happens on every album all the time. Hope that helps.
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Regarding the shuffle issue. I am still trying to figure it out. To those having the problem:
- Is this happening with all albums
- Are you running Mac or Windows version
- Are you using iPhone or iPad
1. All albums.
2. Mac OSX 10.8.3 and JRiver Alpha Build 169 (current as of today).
3. iPhone app.
Thanks!
John
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Liking the new j remote volume/seek bars are great..
One thing I'd like to see is when the file type is video that j remote would show descriptions etc. no rush though would rather see the transcoding on the fly dealt with first. Is it still a long way off? I'm using air video server now. It's ok, works great but I don't use it that much as navigation is a complete pain.
Editing tags is great. One option that could be handy, when you have lots of tracks in a playlist that are not of the same album artist/album, an option to update all tags only if those fields are the same.
Am I right in thinking that the local search doesn't search the tags? Just the outputted thumbnail text. Is that for speed? Perhaps if we press return after the search term it could change to a global search.
+1 for the ability to get the thumbnail text to output on mote then 1 line.
Looking forward to the sorting of views if that is in the next release..
Great work..
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Lespaul,
Just in case you didn't see my last post:
SDK: Added ZoneID, ZoneName, and LinkedZones to MCWS/v1/Playback/Info response.
So now you can have a feedback from JRiver regarding linked zones.
Ah, I overlooked your post. That`s great news. I`ll wait for these changes before I implement the zone linking features.
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Ah, I overlooked your post. That`s great news. I`ll wait for these changes before I implement the zone linking features.
The version 18.0.170 available to download already have these features!!! Thank you for looking into this!!!
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Hello Lespaul,
How can i add the current (only this one) to an existing or new playlist and save it?
Regards Erwin
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Although I risk to be ignored completely with such a long list, I wanted to give you a sum-up of some older reported issues and the new ones:
Bugs (or so it seems):
* B01: No Save/Load Playlist option for the playlist for "This device", only for zones. Why? Would be great to save/load playlists regardless of the output device.
* B02:The numbering of the tracks in the slide-in playlist on the main screen is always the album position. I think the slide-in playlist should honor the setting of the Playing Now screen. So whatever numbering mode is activated there should be used on the main screen too.
* B03: When changing the numbering mode the currently played song does not change the number.
* B04: When changing a rating it is not shown in the playlist or on the main screen. Only if JRemote is forced to reload the folder/album the changed ratings are shown.
* B05: iPad only: When viewing an album of an artist in the main view, the title says always "Various, Multiple albums", even if it is a) one artist only, and b) only one album with a single disc.
* B06: I also have the shuffling issue, although it seems I only have this on the iPhone, not on the iPad (confirmation appreciated)
* B07:I think there is a new small issue with the playback zone switching:
** a) It seems that playback starts automatically as soon as I switch to This Device.
** b)n addition I had it once on the iPhone that I switched from a zone to This Device and it still showed me the title and cover image of the song from the old zone (and this song was not part of the current playlist). So playback started automatically with a U2 song from the local playlist, but the title and cover was from a different song from the old zone.
** c) And finally it happened multiple times that the playlist was cleared automatically. I never noticed this with the old version. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce the exact steps which lead to this, and I also cannot say if this only happened to the local playlist or also for a zone. As soon as I notice this again, I will give more information.
* B08: I am not sure if this is a bug, but I changed the tag "Replay Gain" for one song. I could do this with JRemote, although it did not change anything (I thought this would change the playback volume in respect to the other tracks), and despite this field is not editable in JRiver. Is this intended to edit a non-editable field?
Feature Requests:
* F01: Volume control:
** a) adding a plus/minus button to change volume in a controlled way
** b) set the maximum volume in the settings so that the volume bar right end represents this max value (useful for people in apartments and for some devices like Denon and Marantz with a non-linear volume)
* F02: It is good to have volume and seek bar on the main screen now. However, I do not understand, why the layout on the Playing Now screen is different. Why not using the exact same layout for these two sliders and place both of them at the bottom. I think this would be more convenient.
* F03: Gestures: There were suggestions (and some discussions ;) ) regarding gestures with one and up to three fingers. I just put this here so that you don't forget to implement the gestures in a way you see fit.
* F04: Tag editing for one album only (also from Cassangelo, 19.04.2013)
* F05: For albums with multiple discs only the track numbers are shown, therefore there are multiple tracks with 1, 2, etc. Maybe you could add the disc number (but only for albums with multiple discs), either as 1.1, A1, etc.
* F06: On the main screen there is no Stop button, only Pause. It is not very important but I think it would be better to have a Stop here too.
* F07: iPhone only: Change the playback zone on the main screen, not on Playing Now. I know that you plan to solve this with a slide-in menu, so I put this here as a reminder. By the way, I think the Xing app features a very nice slide-in menu. Maybe you want to check this for reference...
* F08: List/add/remove playlists of/to/from a track. I think that quite some people here would like to have that feature. I have started a thread to ask the JRiver developers to provide the necessary SDK/API features: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=80032.0
Please also tell me if you do not intend to change/implement one of these topics, so that I will not report them again in the future.
Glad you are back. To be honest, I also got worried already. What would we do without JRemote... unthinkable... ;)
The new version is great and has some really nice features (I like the local search and the fast scroll bars the most). The only thing is the new splash screen... I liked the old one better.
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Hi Guys, sorry ...
not a problem ... even I have to find a way to check in more -- I thought I was being notified ...
shAf:
Please send me a mail about your current situation. I have been really busy lately, so have been slow with support.
My situation is pretty much the same--I had high hopes for the new version. I'm beginning to believe tracts stop streaming to my iP4, then switch to the next track because most of my music is AAC M4a. I say that because more often than not I'll see a "possibly in incompatible format" error message ... But then play the next track fine(?) the M4a files are encoded with Qaac 'tvbr111'
Let me know if I can provide more info ... TIA :)
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Ok, I have found the problem related to tracks being shuffled.
If you select the first track on an iPhone, the tracks are shuffled.
A temporary workaround would be to select the second track when adding to the playlist.
I will release a fix very soon.
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Rubberduck, thank you for compiling the list of issues. Makes my work a lot easier.
* B01: No Save/Load Playlist option for the playlist for "This device", only for zones. Why? Would be great to save/load playlists regardless of the output device.
Agree, I will remove that limitation.
* B02:The numbering of the tracks in the slide-in playlist on the main screen is always the album position. I think the slide-in playlist should honor the setting of the Playing Now screen. So whatever numbering mode is activated there should be used on the main screen too.
Agree, will fix
* B03: When changing the numbering mode the currently played song does not change the number.
Thats a bug, will fix
* B04: When changing a rating it is not shown in the playlist or on the main screen. Only if JRemote is forced to reload the folder/album the changed ratings are shown.
Yes, I will improve this.
* B05: iPad only: When viewing an album of an artist in the main view, the title says always "Various, Multiple albums", even if it is a) one artist only, and b) only one album with a single disc.
Should not do this for regular albums. For playlists this is always the case yes. Are you talking about the playlist views?
* B06: I also have the shuffling issue, although it seems I only have this on the iPhone, not on the iPad (confirmation appreciated)
Confirmed, look at post above
* B07:I think there is a new small issue with the playback zone switching:
** a) It seems that playback starts automatically as soon as I switch to This Device.
Thats by design, I can change it.
** b)n addition I had it once on the iPhone that I switched from a zone to This Device and it still showed me the title and cover image of the song from the old zone (and this song was not part of the current playlist). So playback started automatically with a U2 song from the local playlist, but the title and cover was from a different song from the old zone.
I`ve spent some time on this earlier. I have also had it happen a couple of timse, but have pushed it back on the list since it`s not critical.
** c) And finally it happened multiple times that the playlist was cleared automatically. I never noticed this with the old version. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce the exact steps which lead to this, and I also cannot say if this only happened to the local playlist or also for a zone. As soon as I notice this again, I will give more information.
Please do, I have never seen this myself.
* B08: I am not sure if this is a bug, but I changed the tag "Replay Gain" for one song. I could do this with JRemote, although it did not change anything (I thought this would change the playback volume in respect to the other tracks), and despite this field is not editable in JRiver. Is this intended to edit a non-editable field?
I have no checks to ensure that a tag field is updatable or bot at the current time. I may add this later.
Feature Requests:
* F01: Volume control:
** a) adding a plus/minus button to change volume in a controlled way
** b) set the maximum volume in the settings so that the volume bar right end represents this max value (useful for people in apartments and for some devices like Denon and Marantz with a non-linear volume)
I`ll see if I can squeeze in a plus and minus control, but space is limited in most of the views. A max volume setting may be a good idea, I`ll add it to my todo list.
* F02: It is good to have volume and seek bar on the main screen now. However, I do not understand, why the layout on the Playing Now screen is different. Why not using the exact same layout for these two sliders and place both of them at the bottom. I think this would be more convenient.
You may be right. Although in portrait mode, it would not fit together with the play controls. I think I`ll leave this configuration as it is for the time being. I have already shuffled them around too much:)
* F03: Gestures: There were suggestions (and some discussions ) regarding gestures with one and up to three fingers. I just put this here so that you don't forget to implement the gestures in a way you see fit.
Yes, Its on my list.
* F04: Tag editing for one album only (also from Cassangelo, 19.04.2013)
You can do this now by eding one track in an album and select "Update all tracks in current view". The SDK does not currently have a possibility to update all tracks based on a parent id.
* F05: For albums with multiple discs only the track numbers are shown, therefore there are multiple tracks with 1, 2, etc. Maybe you could add the disc number (but only for albums with multiple discs), either as 1.1, A1, etc.
Good idea, but it does require a bit of processing that may affect performance. I`ll have a look at this later.
* F06: On the main screen there is no Stop button, only Pause. It is not very important but I think it would be better to have a Stop here too.
It was removed to fit both the volume and progress bar. I could probably squeeze it in, but it would look cluttered.
* F07: iPhone only: Change the playback zone on the main screen, not on Playing Now. I know that you plan to solve this with a slide-in menu, so I put this here as a reminder. By the way, I think the Xing app features a very nice slide-in menu. Maybe you want to check this for reference...
I am working on the new iPhone layout now. The Xing app looks similar to the feedly app, sliding the menu in instead of sliding the main view out. A small problem with that solution is that you don`t have a logical way of swiping the view out to reveal the menu. You can do it, but it would not be logical.
* F08: List/add/remove playlists of/to/from a track. I think that quite some people here would like to have that feature. I have started a thread to ask the JRiver developers to provide the necessary SDK/API features: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=80032.0
I`ll add it as soon as its availbale in the SDK.
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Thanks for the fast reply :)
B05 (Various, multiple albums): Yes. I've attached a screenshot (viewing the album "Achtung Baby" from U2. As you can see the top most title bar shows the right namen, but the main heading shows "Various, Multiple albums"). I do not use the standard categories "Audio", etc., but have created my own (so the icons are the general "folder" icons). Maybe this is the cause. Do you regard everything that you do not recognize as Audio, Video, etc. (I think you do this by string comparison) as "playlist" and therefore this behavior?
B06 (Shuffling): I found another workaround: When you do not open the album, but you click and hold on the album list, then you also get a menu with some actions. When you select to play that album then it is not shuffled.
B07a (Playback on zone switch): As far as I can remember this only happens for "This device", but not for other zones. So at least it is not consistent.
It is not that important, but if I am to decide, then I would not automatically start playback. Because sometimes I will change from my living-room equipment to another room where I do play locally on the iPad, but as everything is shared between our family I mostly will have to select the music I want to hear first, before I will start playback. That's why I am glad to have save/load playlists for all devices soon, because then I can switch output device very easily and can take (save/laod) the current playlist to another zone. Of course, the cream on top would be to have an option to copy the current playlist to another zone when changing... ;)
B07b (wrong cover on zone switch): No, it is not and I only had it once, with the new version. So I mentioned it, as I thought it may be a new issue not present before.
B08 (edit read-only tags): Funny thing is, that the value actually did change, I also see the changed value in JRiver. But I cannot change it in JRiver. However not so important as the changed value doesn't seem to have an effect.
F01 (volume): The max volume would already help a lot. What do you think of that: when you short click to the left or right of the volume handle then the volume is de-/increased in small steps. The current behavior with sliding the handle stays unchanged of course.
By the way: the speaker icon is often used for muting. What do you think of that?
F04 (tag edit for one album only): Ah! Of course!
F07 (change zone in iPhone in main view or with slide-in menu): Well, I think you have proved quite impressively that you will find the best solution. :)
I think it doesn't matter if the menu slides in or the main view slides out, this is only a graphical design question. In the Xing app you can still swipe to the right to bring up the menu. I assume this is what you regard as not logical. Well, then let the main view slide out. What I think is good, is to have a button (top left corner) to get the menu in addition to the sliding (and I like the shadow effect as if the menu were hovering over the main view in the Xing app, but that's just me).
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Ok, I have found the problem related to tracks being shuffled.
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I don't know if this is associated with my particular problem or not, but I typically choose the 1st track intending to play the entire album ... so now tracks skip while play order is shuffled amongst all. However, in past JR versions, the tracks would skip, while being played in the proper order. Let me know if I can somehow make a available an album's worth of M4A files.
TIA :)
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Ok, I have found the problem related to tracks being shuffled.
If you select the first track on an iPhone, the tracks are shuffled.
A temporary workaround would be to select the second track when adding to the playlist.
I will release a fix very soon.
That's great. Thanks, Lespaul. I know you have many other issues to address as well. I appreciate your attention to this. At least there is a workaround, hopefully temporary!!
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No matter what I do, my iPad and iPhone tell me "Error: Access key was verified, but computer connection failed." I have made sure my Mac's firewall is turned off.
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Hi Lespaul or anyone else for that matter.
I have not used my system for 6 months or so due to a failed DAC but tried using it today. JRiver v16 on Win7 and latest version of JRemote.
Whenever JRemote is connected to JRiver it will not play correctly, stuttering and looping the first couple of seconds of audio. If I disconnect JRemote and restart play it works fine.
Other than the newer version of JRemote nothing on the system has changed.
Any advice appreciated
Cheers
Gareth
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B05 (Various, multiple albums): Yes. I've attached a screenshot (viewing the album "Achtung Baby" from U2. As you can see the top most title bar shows the right namen, but the main heading shows "Various, Multiple albums"). I do not use the standard categories "Audio", etc., but have created my own (so the icons are the general "folder" icons). Maybe this is the cause. Do you regard everything that you do not recognize as Audio, Video, etc. (I think you do this by string comparison) as "playlist" and therefore this behavior?
I also see the opposite: VA albums showing the artist on the first track as album artist.
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I'm loving the new saving playlists feature - Thank you and fantastic job!!
I've discovered a bug that I have seen before but can't work out how to repeat. It seems to happen when I hit a lot of the buttons on the ipad interface and the track goes into a loop of about 0.5-1 second. From that point any track that is played just loops the first half second. I've hit stop and then can play directly from JRiver interface on PC - this plays perfectly but if I then go back to the app and try to play another track the loop occurs again. I have restarted JRiver service etc on the PC and the only thing that I've found to cure it is to restart the ipad. It's not massively annoying because I've only managed to get it to do it about three times in 6 months but thought you might like to know.
I've got a couple of feature requests...as if rubberduck wasn't keeping you busy enough ;-)
1) If volume is disabled within JRiver then the volume should not be displayed in the app - it confuses the rest of my family ;-)
2) A tab that displays song lyrics would be awesome
3) When you edit a tag in a playlist there is a checkbox that allows you to effectively update all but I think it needs to be more intelligent than this as I stupidly managed to rename a playlist with lots of different artists in it, to one artist...filter by album?
Cheers for now,
Crom
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JRemote is wonderful, so firstly thanks.
Can you help me understand how the top level search works? I am often puzzled by the results, though usually get what I want.
If I search for "sunrise"
I get two albums:
Sunrise, Sunset
Beauty of Sunrise
I only get one Album Artist (and Artist)
Bob Thiele (the Album Artist for Sunrise, Sunset)
Why don't I get the Album Artist/Artist for "Beauty of Sunrise" (Bheki Mseleku) - the tags are definitely set.
I've noticed this behaviour on all sorts of searches - for some albums I get the artist, for others not.
Also the approximate nature of the search can sometimes be confusing.
"Mozart Symphony 5"
gets me
Mozart Symphonies 38-41 (and a whole load of other Mozart Symphony/ies )
Mahler Symphony 5
Schubert Symphony 5
Beethoven Symphony 5
Mozart Requiem KV 626
and so on and sofifth, as Victor Borge once said.
But "Mozart Symphony" will only get me stuff with "Mozart" and "Symphony" in the title. Adding the "5" broadens the search, rather than narrowing it down as I would expect.
Any comments, clues, suggestions, proposals?
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When browsing Audio and the browsing mode is set to Thumbnails, the view correctly reverts to ImageList when you get down to the last level, i.e. the list of tracks, otherwise you would get a grid a large cover art for each track.
However, this behaviour also exists for Videos too (and presumably Images too, although I haven't got any images set up in J River). This means that you actually lose the benefit of the large cover art after you've drilled down into, say, the Genres folder. JRemote is treating a list of individual video files in a folder as though they were tracks on an album.
For Videos (and Images) can you make the view mode stick regardless of what level you've drilled down into?
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B05 (Various, multiple albums): Yes. I've attached a screenshot (viewing the album "Achtung Baby" from U2. As you can see the top most title bar shows the right namen, but the main heading shows "Various, Multiple albums"). I do not use the standard categories "Audio", etc., but have created my own (so the icons are the general "folder" icons). Maybe this is the cause. Do you regard everything that you do not recognize as Audio, Video, etc. (I think you do this by string comparison) as "playlist" and therefore this behavior?
I've reported this myself before: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.msg513413#msg513413 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.msg513413#msg513413)
I half-think it's something to do with JRiver itself rather than JRemote, I think people have reported it sometimes detects "complete albums" incorrectly and things like that.
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Weird issue when i try to edit using JRemote on iPhone 5. There are a few titles I would like to edit the genre. But when i enter the edit screen & make the change there's no way to close the keyboard to access the save or whatever tab must be selected to save the change. Can't move the screen up underneath the keyboard either. Am I missing something really simple here?!
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Hello Lespaul,
I miss the Stop Button in Main View! ? How can i stop playback now? without this important Button my audio PC cant shut down to hibernate after a defined Time. There is a Tool which monitors jRivers IO Data Operations/sec and if there is no Traffic for a definte time (15 min), the PC goes in hibernatemode. With the current JRemote Version there is only the pause Button left. With this Button pressed, IO Data Operationsin JRiver is not reduced and the PC will never shut down.
this is an absolutely Major Problem for me with JRemote. Please bring this essential Button back to JRemote!
regards Erwin
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+1 to jrdiandrea's difficulty. It is a strange glitch.
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Erwin, I have a stop play button & I have the updated version.
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Where. On my ipad on only see pause when playing audio?
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All I ever get when trying to connect to JRemote is "cannot connect" Can anyone help me?
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Where. On my ipad on only see pause when playing audio?
That is the problem. The versions before the current version ever had a Stop Button too.
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Guys,
the stop button is removed from the main view, but is still available from the "now playing" screen.
The reason I removed it was to make room for both progress and volume sliders.
You usually don`t need to use the stop button often, so I figured that it would be OK to remove it from the main view.
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From your reports there seem to be a problem with correctly identifying complete albums vs multiple albums.
I`ll have a look at this and try to reproduce it.
The problem with hiding the keyboard in metadata editing view is also noted. I only tested this with the larger screen of the iPhone 5, which is kinda stupid.
A new version that fixes the shuffle bug was submitted last week, but I may release another one soon after.
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The reason I removed it was to make room for both progress and volume sliders.
You usually don`t need to use the stop button often, so I figured that it would be OK to remove it from the main view.
Hi Lespaul,
Most of the time i am using the main view. With this change it is going more and more inconsistent. Volume at the bottom and no Stop Button in main view, Volume on top and a Stop Button in playing now view. There is a lot space on iPad to make a consistent Look&Feel screen in Both views. It would also be possible to make the endless track area one line shorter.
Think about it and give it a chance.
Sorry for my bad german english.
Regards Erwin
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Also the playing now area/slider on bottom of the main view could be optimized, to get more space.
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I've got a couple of feature requests...as if rubberduck wasn't keeping you busy enough ;-)
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2) A tab that displays song lyrics would be awesome
3) When you edit a tag in a playlist there is a checkbox that allows you to effectively update all but I think it needs to be more intelligent than this as I stupidly managed to rename a playlist with lots of different artists in it, to one artist...filter by album.
So I'll give a few answers to take some load off Lespaul... ;)
2) Maybe you missed that there is already a tab for lyrics. If you open the tag viewer, then there is a tab for metadata, artist bio and lyrics (if there are lyrics stored in the file, otherwise the tab is not shown). Or do you mean something different?
3) I am not sure, but is there a confirmation dialog in such cases? If not, then this might be a good idea. The filter by album is there already: Go to the album in the main view, open the tag viewer and update all.
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Regarding lyrics, they will only show lyrics embedded in the metatags. Fetching lyrics from the internet is currently impossible because of licensing issues.
I think crom is referring to editing a playlist and then having the option to only update files that match with the current tag.
This may be a good idea, and I`ll add something like this a bit later.
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Lespaul, hi!
I have been using JRemote as a player recently to listen to music through iPad in various rooms in the house and ran into a problem: track skipping. It goes like this: the first track on an album plays normally, than the second track plays for one second and skips to the 3d track, which plays normally, etc. I end up listening to odd tracks only!
Tried several track change options on MC, including gapped 1s, but it does not seem to matter.
Any suggestions what's going on here and how to fix it?
As a remote, JRemote works perfectly fine for me and I love it.
maxim
Running JRMC18 on W7/64; iPad1; JRemote 2.30 with audio stream quality set to 'high'
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Hi Lespaul,
Firstly - Thanks so much for this great app! A few issues below:
Critical:
Sometimes (possibly after adding keywords in the app), the app randomly sets Volume to Max :o, then to Min, then crashes/ends. This could be very serious for some people when their speakers fuse! This happens to me on two different iPads and two different JRiver servers. This seems to happen once or twice a day of heavy use.
Medium:
Please can you display the tag/field 'Keywords' in the meta-data screen, even when none currently exist for the track - often I am using the app to add a keyword to a track as I listen, and if the track currently has no keywords, the tag does not appear on the list, so I can't add any!
Minor:
As previously reported by another user, selecting 'Artist', then selecting an artist (eg) 'AbbA' then selecting a single album, (eg) ' ABBA Disk 1', the apps displays "'Various, Multiple albums", even though there is only one artist and one album.
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A new version that fixes the shuffle bug was submitted last week, but I may release another one soon after.
Hi, is the shuffle bug fix available? I use an iPod (previous version). Have not seen any app store updates.
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REQUEST: Cover View option like MC has.
Browsing album tiles can go "full-screen".
cheers!
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Hoping someone here can assist me with volume control. Hopefully it's something simple as it usually is...
I am running JR on a CAPSv3 Zuma server. For primary listening I send audio to my DAC & 2 channel amp. But for other areas of my home I will send audio to my OPPO 105 then to my processor for Zone distribution. Got all of it working except I want to be able to control the volume fromt JRemote on my iPhone5. Of course, this will provide for volume adjustment when away from the components. Can't get it to work. The only thing I thought of & found were the Volume settings in the Tools > Options > Audio area.
Thx for any ideas.
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Hoping someone here can assist me with volume control. Hopefully it's something simple as it usually is...
Can you control the volume via JRiver?
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I'd like to report that since the latest JRemote and MC .171 I've not had a single MC crash. I have posted several times on the subject in various parts of Interact. I do not know what fixed it as JRemote 2.30 and MC .171 turned up about the same time, but I have a feeling credit should go to Lespaul. THANKS! :)
In general JRemote 2.30 feels more solid, faster and smoother. Good work!
As mentioned a few posts up I have the "shuffle bug" and waiting for a release that fixes this.
I also have a problem with the volume control on Playing Now. I have volume control in MC Options >Audio >Volume >Volume mode: >Disabled Volume. If I touch the volume bar on the display (which happens quite often as it is close to the play/pause/skip controls) the volume screen pops up with 'Volume 0' and stays like this till I right-slide the volume bar. Shouldn't the volume control in JRemote be completely disabled/greyed out with Disabled Volume set in MC?
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Can you control the volume via JRiver?
I really hope so. From everything I've read I can only make that assumption. Regarding JRemote, I see no other reason for have a volume slide control.....really am desperate to figure this out. Cant find right combination anywhere.
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I'm asking because I can control the volume when sending music to my WD TV Live via JRemote, regardless of what volume mode setting is in JRiver. I think the setting is for when you're playing audio on the JRiver server, not when sending it to a DLNA device. Is you Oppo a DL:NA device? If so, then it might not respond to DLNA volume control. That's why you need to see if you can control the volume from JRiver and eliminate JRemote.
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I'm asking because I can control the volume when sending music to my WD TV Live via JRemote, regardless of what volume mode setting is in JRiver. I think the setting is for when you're playing audio on the JRiver server, not when sending it to a DLNA device. Is you Oppo a DL:NA device? If so, then it might not respond to DLNA volume control. That's why you need to see if you can control the volume from JRiver and eliminate JRemote.
Thanks for responding. Probably a dumb question but assuming that I can't use the volume on JRemote, how could I remotely adjust volume using JRiver? Other than the obvious via computer in my listening room!!
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No, no! What I mean is are you able to control the volume with JRiver? This is to diagnose the problem. If you can't control the volume with JRiver then it's the Oppo that is not responding to DLNA volume control commands and you've got no hope of being able to do it via JRemote.
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Oremote for onkyo and integra products has a oppo remote built in. This controls the volume of my 103 without issue from my ipad while I play files from jremote. Oppo will be releasing its own stand alone ios remote in a few months.
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jrdiandrea, I believe csimon has answered your question. You need to test the volume from MC itself, since some DLNA devices do not support having its volume controlled remotely.
A new version with a couple of bugfixes should be available on monday. I needed to submit a new version after I found out about the bug where you can`t edit metadata on the iphone because the keyboard blocks the save button.
HiFiTubes:
What kind of options would you like to see included with cover view?
Actually, a full screen mode would be kind of cool, I`ll think about that.
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Actually, a full screen mode would be kind of cool, I`ll think about that.
Please also consider the possibility to change thumbnail size in a full screen cover view. (iPeng can do this with pinch and the opposite and that is cool.)
And how about a cleaner now playing view with even larger cover art in portrait mode? In (only) this regard I find MyRiver better for displaying the cover art of the now playing song when the iPad sits in portrait mode in its stand some distance away.
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HiFiTubes:
What kind of options would you like to see included with cover view?
Actually, a full screen mode would be kind of cool, I`ll think about that.
I only noticed smaller screen real estate in Playlist mode. I like that info bar at the type, but when browsing "Tiles" I always like the option to max. out screen.
Is there a way to have slide-out menus like Spotify so we have access to options/menus?
The only other thing I have noticed is how to quickly change zones. Seems like I have to drill way up to find the Zone button and I often need to switch quickly but it takes 6 buttons at times.
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1. In playing now view when metadata is selected it is not possible to edit the playlist. Perhaps the Edit button for the playlist should be removed when metadata is selected (where there is another Edit tab/button),
2.
Select Edit for the playlist
Select metadata and do a metadata search
When going back from the search results to playing now the Edit playlist button says Done but there are no edit controls for the playlist
The same happens if you click the home button and then return to playing now view.
3. In the view showing album(s) there is on top cover art next to xx tracks etc. Would it be possible to show the cover art large when clicking on that cover art if there is only one album in the view, I.e. when the cover art is not fanned?
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After starting JRiver MC on my main computer I want to start playback i shuffle mode from my JRemote on my iPad, but nothing happens. Instead a pop up box shows on my main pc screen telling my tha "ASIO playback is starting up" (or something like that). I have to click Ok in this box on my main computer which is situated in another rrom) to start playback. How can I get rid of this information pop up-box so I can start listening to music from my JRemote?
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Please also consider the possibility to change thumbnail size in a full screen cover view. (iPeng can do this with pinch and the opposite and that is cool.)
+1
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+1
+1 but it has to be done right. Can't be too fluid, sizes should be incremental and repeatable.
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I just wanted to confirm that on the mac version album-tracks are by default played in some reshuffled order. This is not such a huge issue when using th eplayer on the mac itself. You just select the desired ordering (say, by track numbers) and then re-order the sequence from the playback header. However, there is no such option when playing from the ios device and using jriver as a server only (my case). Very annoying. Or am I missing something?
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I just downloaded the updated JRiver Remote app and it FIXES the shuffle problem! Nice work!!!
Best,
John
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When playing on this device (ipad/iph) will it ever be possible to output to appletv via airplay?
I have noticed issues when there are chinese / japanese / korean artist names that the selection via the right side after about letter S results in the beginning of the listing (0-9 or a) being shown. I think this is a bug - doesnt happen all the time however.
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I just downloaded the updated JRiver Remote app and it FIXES the shuffle problem! Nice work!!!
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I believe it has also fixed my "skipping tracks" problem! Thanks for the excellent support!! :D
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The oppo105 and other oppos must have the variable volume enabled in the settings in order to control it if I am not wrong otherwise it will be fixed.
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Hi Lespaul or anyone else for that matter.
I have not used my system for 6 months or so due to a failed DAC but tried using it today. JRiver v16 on Win7 and latest version of JRemote.
Whenever JRemote is connected to JRiver it will not play correctly, stuttering and looping the first couple of seconds of audio. If I disconnect JRemote and restart play it works fine.
Other than the newer version of JRemote nothing on the system has changed.
Any advice appreciated
Cheers
Gareth
Anyone please?
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B07c) And finally it happened multiple times that the playlist was cleared automatically. I never noticed this with the old version. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce the exact steps which lead to this, and I also cannot say if this only happened to the local playlist or also for a zone. As soon as I notice this again, I will give more information.
Update on that:
* This only happens for "This device".
* When I close the app to the background and reactivate it shortly after, everything is fine, and the playing now is still present.
* But, when I wait 10 to 15 min and then reactivate the app, the splash screen is shown and when this happens the playing now is empty. It has nothing to do with (re)connecting to the server. At least, if I reconnect manually to the server, playing now is not cleared. So must be something else.
Whatever causes the app to show the splash screen may also cause to clear the playing now for "This device".
I am very positive, that this did not happen with older versions prior 2.30 (i.e. 2.27). And yes, I used the new 2.31 for testing.
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I believe it has also fixed my "skipping tracks" problem! Thanks for the excellent support!! :D
I've apparently spoken too soon. Regarding skipping tracks while streaming to "this device", I'm beginning to believe its my own m4a's because I'll sometimes get a "may be a problem with this type of format" error message ... But when I select to play the same track again it will play fine(?)
The encoder I use is Quicktime QAAC, 32bit for Windows on Windows 7, run as an "external decoder". Encoding parameters were '--tvbr 111'
Anecdotally, it seems to be skipping fewer tracks ... Whoops! Did it again!
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shAf, have you tried to stream your aac files with transcoding (in the settings menu)?
Is it only your aac files skipping, or is it also mp3 files?
If you get an error message, it means that the internal avplayer has reported an error, but I`ll see if there is anything I can do about it.
Will test some aac files later today to see if I can reproduce it.
Rubberduck0:
Interesting observations. I assume that you are playing background audio in those 15 minutes?
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Dear Lespaul,
The latest update did _not_ fix track skipping for me.
In fairness, it happens less often then before, but often enough to be a major inconvenience.
Please take another look at the problem.
With many thanks,
maxim
Details of my setup in a post above in this thread ...
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shAf, have you tried to stream your aac files with transcoding (in the settings menu)?
Is it only your aac files skipping, or is it also mp3 files?
When I originally reported no skipping after the update I believe I had been listening to MP3, possible one of the few FLAC albums I have. I assume you're referring to the media server side transcoding what it streams(?) No I haven't tried that ... I could for testing, but I wouldn't want an encoder stepping on the music again.
If you get an error message, it means that the internal avplayer has reported an error, but I`ll see if there is anything I can do about it.
Will test some aac files later today to see if I can reproduce it.
I have to admit it's strange for an Apple device to have problems with their own encoder. Let me know if I can provide an entire album for you to test (... rarewolf[at]gmail[dot]com ...)
Thank you for your excellent support (... altho this topic is getting a bit unwieldy ...) :D
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Rubberduck0:
Interesting observations. I assume that you are playing background audio in those 15 minutes?
No. I add some tracks to playing now for "This device". Stop playback. Put the app in background. Put iPad to sleep. Wait 15 min. Open JRemote, the splash screen comes up, I open playing now and it is empty.
If I do the same after let's say 5 min, the playing now is still there (and there is no splash screen when re-opening the app).
Is this only me having this issue? Very strange. Cannot think of any reason why...
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This is happening every day now for me, when seeking audio sometimes it gets stuck on a 1 sec loop. When you close J Remote to the background after a couple of seconds it starts to play normally. Upon bringing J remote to the foreground the loop starts again at the same position as before even if you let the audio play for a bit. If you force close J Remote and re-open it everything works fine. It's like the seek bar is getting stuck sending the same request over and over.
I also noticed sometimes but not as often as the seeking issue the same kind of thing happens when changing the volume, the box that appears telling you the current volume, sometimes doesn't disappear and I'm going out on a limb here, I reckon it could be the exact same thing that's causing the seeking issue if indeed my assumptions are correct.
Another issue sometimes there seems to be a lagging issue I believe when browsing and changing the volume, as sometimes it volume bar has a life of it's own and will go up & down and eventually go to 0.
Hope this helps
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This is happening every day now for me, when seeking audio sometimes it gets stuck on a 1 sec loop. When you close J Remote to the background after a couple of seconds it starts to play normally. Upon bringing J remote to the foreground the loop starts again at the same position as before even if you let the audio play for a bit. If you force close J Remote and re-open it everything works fine. It's like the seek bar is getting stuck sending the same request over and over.
I also noticed sometimes but not as often as the seeking issue the same kind of thing happens when changing the volume, the box that appears telling you the current volume, sometimes doesn't disappear and I'm going out on a limb here, I reckon it could be the exact same thing that's causing the seeking issue if indeed my assumptions are correct.
Another issue sometimes there seems to be a lagging issue I believe when browsing and changing the volume, as sometimes it volume bar has a life of it's own and will go up & down and eventually go to 0.
Hope this helps
I'm experiencing the exact same things as you describe.
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I have investigated the stuck slider behaviour. I have found that the slider will be stuck if you tap it instead of sliding.
This is now fixed.
Regarding the various streaming problems:
I have now completely replaced the internal iOS audio player with a new framework.
This framework support most formats natively including FLAC. This means that you can now stream your FLAC files without transcoding (and almost any other audio file). Airplay will still work since it is just passing the already decoded PCM stream.
Hopefully, this will also solve the skipping problems some of you are reporting.
I expect to release the new version very soon.
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I have investigated the stuck slider behaviour. I have found that the slider will be stuck if you tap it instead of sliding.
This is now fixed.
Regarding the various streaming problems:
I have now completely replaced the internal iOS audio player with a new framework.
This framework support most formats natively including FLAC. This means that you can now stream your FLAC files without transcoding (and almost any other audio file). Airplay will still work since it is just passing the already decoded PCM stream.
Hopefully, this will also solve the skipping problems some of you are reporting.
I expect to release the new version very soon.
Great :)
Just noticed this morning that load/save playlist is force closing J Remote, it work fine on the last version, I don't believe I have changed any setting in MC that could have caused this. Is this happening with anybody else?
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I'm asking because I can control the volume when sending music to my WD TV Live via JRemote, regardless of what volume mode setting is in JRiver. I think the setting is for when you're playing audio on the JRiver server, not when sending it to a DLNA device. Is you Oppo a DL:NA device? If so, then it might not respond to DLNA volume control. That's why you need to see if you can control the volume from JRiver and eliminate JRemote.
csimon,
I just installed a WDTV Live Treaming player to my system in hopes of using this as my external zone for aother areas of my home. You said you're able to control the volume via JRiver when sending files to Wd I am hoping to do the same thing.
I have a problem though. I believe I have the WDTV set up properly....JRiver sees it as a zone & I have made the adjustments to JRiver but i can't get it to play to it. Using JRemote or JRiver ...the tracks I try to play do nothing. Cant figure out why?! Any suggestions? Would be really appreaciated!!
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What format are the files you're trying to play? Have you got conversion turned on in the DLNA settings? And do you get any error message on the WDTV when you try to play? Can you browse the JRiver DLNA server from the WDTV itself (rather than using JRiver or JRemote to push files to it) and then play files?
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What format are the files you're trying to play? Have you got conversion turned on in the DLNA settings? And do you get any error message on the WDTV when you try to play? Can you browse the JRiver DLNA server from the WDTV itself (rather than using JRiver or JRemote to push files to it) and then play files?
They're 24 bit wav files. I have no conversion set in JRiver. Don't know if I can navigate from WD to JRive as I've not tried that. But that isn't an option in this scenerio. I simply want to send files to it for playback in secondary zones.
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They're 24 bit wav files. I have no conversion set in JRiver.
Try conversion to MP3, as a test.
Don't know if I can navigate from WD to JRive as I've not tried that. But that isn't an option in this scenerio. I simply want to send files to it for playback in secondary zones.
It was a suggestion to try to diagnose the problem, I wasn't suggesting you should use that method permanently. If you *can't* play the files from WDTV then it points towards the fact that it doesn't understand the file format, and turning on conversion should work. You might also get an error message on the WDTV telling you this. If you can play the files from WDTV then it points towards a problem at the JRiver server end. Either way, it's not a JRemote problem.
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Try conversion to MP3, as a test.
It was a suggestion to try to diagnose the problem, I wasn't suggesting you should use that method permanently. If you *can't* play the files from WDTV then it points towards the fact that it doesn't understand the file format, and turning on conversion should work. You might also get an error message on the WDTV telling you this. If you can play the files from WDTV then it points towards a problem at the JRiver server end. Either way, it's not a JRemote problem.
I understood you were suggesting trouble shooting. Appreciate that. I was just rushing out the door when I reposnded....won't be able to do any of your suggested steps till probably Saturday...maybe tomorrow afternoon.
One question, what what driver are yoiu using....I currently have JRive for the WD Zone set to wasapi event. Could this cause an issue?
Also, I currently have the WD connected to my Lexicon MV-12HD Processor via HDMI. I'm also wondering if sending it wav files isn't a problem. But, if so, not sure that would stop JRiver from at least playing the file. When I select a track it simply doesn't do anything....total time of the track doesn't appear. & When I press play it advances to the next track, then sits there.
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I have WASAPI Event Style, but this is irrelevant when controlling DLNA devices. The only settings that matter are in the DLNA settings dialog. The audio driver is only for specifying how JRiver controls the audio hardware in your computer.
You need to do some troubleshooting - turn MP3 conversion on and see if that works. If it doesn't then we can investigate the HDMI issue. But the only thing we can ascertain at the moment is "it doesn't work" - we need to find out exactly what isn't working!
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I have WASAPI Event Style, but this is irrelevant when controlling DLNA devices. The only settings that matter are in the DLNA settings dialog. The audio driver is only for specifying how JRiver controls the audio hardware in your computer.
You need to do some troubleshooting - turn MP3 conversion on and see if that works. If it doesn't then we can investigate the HDMI issue. But the only thing we can ascertain at the moment is "it doesn't work" - we need to find out exactly what isn't working!
Got it. Thanks alot for your interest & help. I'll post as soon as I can!
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I have WASAPI Event Style, but this is irrelevant when controlling DLNA devices. The only settings that matter are in the DLNA settings dialog. The audio driver is only for specifying how JRiver controls the audio hardware in your computer.
You need to do some troubleshooting - turn MP3 conversion on and see if that works. If it doesn't then we can investigate the HDMI issue. But the only thing we can ascertain at the moment is "it doesn't work" - we need to find out exactly what isn't working!
Simon, havie thought thru this as best I could this evening I believe I have something NOT set or INCORRECTLY set in the WD. In still plan on conducting some of the trouble shooting you suggested but thought I would ask you about ant critical settings that need to be made in the WD. I also want to be sure I have the unit settings to accomplish what I'm trying to.
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Nothing needs doing on the WDTV as far as I'm aware, it should work out of the box.
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Nothing needs doing on the WDTV as far as I'm aware, it should work out of the box.
OK. I had a couple minutes to try something. Only because ot was easier to access the 2 or 3 mp3 files I have I used my Synology iPhone ap to push an mp3 file to the WD. It worked. So did adjusting the volume within the ap to adjust output. What i was puishing to the WD were wav files ripped from regular Cds. Is it not supposed to play wav files?
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I don't know, I haven't got any WAV files. It may or may not have problems with the fiese you have got, so I would suggest converting to MP3 first of all. If that that works, convert to L16 (which I believe is the same as WAV/PCM) - but there are two types of L16, header and no header, I don't know the difference, but try the other if one doesn't work. If the WDTV can play WAV files directly but it can't play yours then maybe it's something to do with that header. But you really need to try it out in JRiver, no point in theorising until we know exactly what works and what doesn't.
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Uh oh...I can't save playlists since updating to JRemote 2.31 and to MC 18.0.175. Every time I attempt to save a playlist JRemote crashes and closes without warning. This wasn't happening before I updated the app and MC.
EDIT: I see MC version 18.0.177 is available. I'll try that and see if that changes anything.
EDIT: Same error after updating to MC 18.0.177 and uninstalling/reinstalling JRemote 2.31. The app crashes when I try to save a playlist. It also crashes if I try to load a playlist.
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Same here ...
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Quite embarrassing the crash on playlist save, sorry about that.
I have requested an expedited review for the new version. Hopefully Apple will approve it monday or tuesday.
This version also includes the new audio player for streaming more formats etc.
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Quite embarrassing the crash on playlist save, sorry about that.
I have requested an expedited review for the new version. Hopefully Apple will approve it monday or tuesday.
This version also includes the new audio player for streaming more formats etc.
Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to the update. This is a great app!
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This has probably been asked before. Any chance we could get scrobbling to last.fm support in jremote. I am using jremote more and more for music playback using AirPlay but I am really issuing my scrobbles.
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When playing on this device (ipad/iph) will it ever be possible to output to appletv via airplay?
I have noticed issues when there are chinese / japanese / korean artist names that the selection via the right side after about letter S results in the beginning of the listing (0-9 or a) being shown. I think this is a bug - doesnt happen all the time however.
Just enable in MC.
(http://i.imgur.com/BeJKlaL.png)
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I have last.fm scrobbling enabled in mc. And it works with mc as a player. It does not scrobble for me when I play on the iPad/iPhone itself or using AirPlay.
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I have last.fm scrobbling enabled in mc. And it works with mc as a player. It does not scrobble for me when I play on the iPad/iPhone itself or using AirPlay.
Interesting, good to know.
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The new version is out now. Those that had problems with skipping etc, please test this version.
There has been a change in the settings menu, so make sure you have a look there if you want to stream without transcoding.
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Lespaul,
For some reason I cannot get into the transcoding quality menu on iPhone. It highlights the section but doesn't enter it. Minor problem, just thought I would report it. Thanks again for the best app ever!
-Patrick
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Lespaul,
For some reason I cannot get into the transcoding quality menu on iPhone. It highlights the section but doesn't enter it. Minor problem, just thought I would report it. Thanks again for the best app ever!
-Patrick
Happens to me as well
Lespaul, thanks again for this awesome app. Do you think you could add an option to enable trascoding only on 3G/outside lan? Also I was wondering if you could add a "keep server awake" option. Thanks, Lespaul.
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Latest version stopped playing on my oppo. I was streaming 88khz 24 bit from my library server . Oppo sees and plays using its GUI .
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Sorry. Jr was updating as I tried playback.
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Quite embarrassing the crash on playlist save, sorry about that.
I have requested an expedited review for the new version. Hopefully Apple will approve it monday or tuesday.
This version also includes the new audio player for streaming more formats etc.
Save playlist function is working again in 2.35. Thanks!!!
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I've apparently spoken too soon. Regarding skipping tracks while streaming to "this device", ...
The most recent upgrade does fix the skipping tracks problem (Thank You!!), but then I noticed that "Enable transcoding" was enabled. This purportedly encodes all tracks to MP3 before streaming. I turned it off to hear the "as encoded" audio and got the attached error.
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shAf, is it the AAC files that are unable to play?
I tested myself with all formats before release. Could it be a problem with some of your files?
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shAf, is it the AAC files that are unable to play?
I tested myself with all formats before release. Could it be a problem with some of your files?
Anything is possible. I was trying to stream from MC18 (Win7), they transcode fine, and they also play fine if I use the Synology Player which finds them on my backup NAS. They are encoded with QAAC v.2, and I was trying to play a 24bit version of "Sweet Baby James", as well as its 16bit version. Hmmmm(?), I just remembered ... the HD version is HDTrack's own encoding, while the 16bit was encoded as above. You can contact me at rarewolf[at]gmail[dot]com, and I'll zip the 16bit album and make it available to you via Dropbox.
Thanks for your excellent support :)
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Just to be clear where are the files being streamed from and to?
I use jremote to control streaming from jriver media server to my oppo. Do my settings in media server control what is streamed?
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Great the skipping is fixed. I'm seeing the same thing can't change the transcoding settings.
I'm seeing the same things as others have reported. I have 2 audio views, the default one for me and a custom one for my girlfriend. They both have rules to stop out music appearing in each other's views. The view schemes are exactly the same but on the custom one once you drill down to Album, J remote says at the top Multiple Albums Multiple Artists.
I've checked gizmo and web gizmo & both have this behaviour. It would be nice to be able to assign the music icon and video icon etc to non default views..
Keep up the great work Lespaul, J Remote just keeps getting better & better..
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Just to be clear where are the files being streamed from and to?
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All that info, and more, is in previous posts ...
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Hi
New user, and what a super product.
Using mc 18.0.175 and jremote 2.35
Just one hiccup, when I load pictures to playlist for streaming on my tv everything works fine.
But when i try to stream the playlist to my ipad, the jremote software crash.
Is there anything i am doing wrong?
Best regards
Morten
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Just noticed on the ipad the Meta data & Artist Bio buttons could do with a little moving up. They are overlapping a little with the control bar making them a little difficult to press.
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Listening to J River at work on wifi - getting an intermittent crash with a pop up.
"no sound
BASS_ERROR_UNKNOWN/nhttp://<ip address>/MCWS/v1/File/GetFile?File=7515680&conversion=4&Filetype=key&Playback=2&Token=<more info I think I should maybe private message>"
I can go back to playlist and select another track and it starts playing again.
Could it be a flaky wifi issue?
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One more time last.fm scrobbling ;) I just found out that when playing to an upnp client tracks do get scrobbled to last.fm by mc. I was wondering if playback with jremote on an ipad/iphone jremote could be updated to do it like that also without the need to have this functionality being added to the jremote app itself?
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Got an idea, in the playing now menu where you can change the order of the playlist. I would be nice if when you scroll down past the current track playing now that it would stick to the top (And I suppose when scrolling back up to the beginning of the playlist that it would stick to the bottom), so you can always see it. It would make it much easier to move a track from the bottom (or the top) to play next.
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Hello Lespaul,
Will you implement the zone link/unlink feature in the next version?
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Will there ever be a way to change libraries from jremote...i have a number of libraries i keep with different music collections.
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Hi been using jremote to stream mp4 to my ipad and it works great. When i chose another file type avi or mkv it says not supported. Will setting up transcoding on jriver side under media network resolve this?
Is their a plan to enable other video formats for stream to this device?
Thanks
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rickd:
Yes, hopefully JRemote will work with transcoded movies soon. Starting a new round of testing soon.
wizardofoz:
Changing library is not currently supported in the SDK, so I don`t know.
nickba:
Yes, I will try to include zone linking in the next version.
I am currently working on the new iPhone interface, it will be quite a major restructure.
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I just wanted to drop a message here to let the developers know how much I love this application.
I have been using Media Center for 4-5 years now, and have always loved it. On my Android phone, I was using Gizmo. I thought it was great, but was disappointed that I couldn't rate songs and that the navigation wasn't quite as good as it might be.
When T-Mobile started carrying the iPhone, I ultimately decided on it based on the good things I'd heard about JRemote. It's a darn expensive phone, but, I have to say, it's been worth it. JRemote is absolutely perfect. I'm an obsessive music collector in heaven.
I ended up upgrading to Media Center 18 from version 16, so that I could use all of the functioning of JRemote.
The navigation is seamless. I can rate or tag songs, edit playlists, and search through my library with ease.
Best of all (these two things blow me away): I can sit on my back porch, connect to my wi-fi network, and stream FLAC files right to the phone. Plug my headphones into the phone and I'm listening to lossless music. Second, when I'm riding the bus, I can use JRemote to connect to my Media Network through my cellular data network, have the music transcoded to 128k, and listen to anything in my library. Is there a need to use iTunes on my iPhone? Not that I can see.
Kudos to the developers of JRemote, and, of course, to the JRiver team for the great latest version of Media Center.
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[Like] !
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I can use JRemote to connect to my Media Network through my cellular data network, have the music transcoded to 128k, and listen to anything in my library. Is there a need to use iTunes on my iPhone? Not that I can see.
Nor is there a reason to have more than a few albums (for emergencies, i.e. no 4G) on your iDevices!!! Nice!
I have no problems streaming 320 over 4G/LTE by the way. You might be able to bump up your quality for remote use.
This app is so good huh?
Cheers!
Patrick
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I do have some new issues with the new version. I added the old issues with current status at the bottom to make it easier to follow up.
* B09: Status icon for "Music playing" always visible. When a music is playing, an icon (triangle) is shown in the "status bar", i.e. the top right area of iPhone/iPad, where you see the battery status, Bluetooth, etc. But this icon should only be shown, when music is playing. With JRemote this is not the case. After stopping music, this icon is still shown. (I assume this came with the change to be able to control JRemote from the lock screen.)
* B07c -UPDATE-: The behavior changed. "Playing Now" for "This device" is not cleared anymore after those 10 to 15 minutes (so this is a good thing). But when I try to start playback again I get an error message "BASS_ERROR_FILEOPEN" followed by some MCWS URL with GetFile command. I get the same error, when I go back to the main view and want to add the tracks to "Playing Now" again (well, I think it is not the adding itself, but start of playback, which is done automatically after adding). Only after reconnecting (either manually or sometimes it happens automatically) it works again and I can start playback without error (actually I think I do not even have to populate "Playing Now" again, it also works with the old list; but I'm not 100% sure).
Past issues for reference:
Bugs:
-x- B01: No Save/Load Playlist option for the playlist for "This device", only for zones. -> DONE
-o- B02:The numbering of the tracks in the slide-in playlist on the main screen is always the album position. I think the slide-in playlist should honor the setting of the Playing Now screen. So whatever numbering mode is activated there should be used on the main screen too. -> Open
-x- B03: When changing the numbering mode the currently played song does not change the number. -> DONE
-o- B04: When changing a rating it is not shown in the playlist or on the main screen. Only if JRemote is forced to reload the folder/album the changed ratings are shown. -> Open
-o- B05: iPad only: When viewing an album of an artist in the main view(!), the title says always "Various, Multiple albums", even if it is a) one artist only, and b) only one album with a single disc. -> Open
-x- B06: Shuffling issue -> DONE
--- B07:I think there is a new small issue with the playback zone switching:
--x- a) It seems that playback starts automatically as soon as I switch to This Device. -> DONE
--?- b) In addition I had it once on the iPhone that I switched from a zone to This Device and it still showed me the title and cover image of the song from the old zone (and this song was not part of the current playlist). So playback started automatically with a U2 song from the local playlist, but the title and cover was from a different song from the old zone. -> Unclear
--o- c) Playlist is cleared automatically, as soon as the app is more than approx. 10 min in background. Then the splash screen is shown and when this happens "Playing now" is empty. It has nothing to do with (re)connecting to the server. At least, if I reconnect manually to the server, playing now is not cleared. So must be something else. This only happens for "This Device".
-o- B08: I am not sure if this is a bug, but I changed the tag "Replay Gain" for one song. I could do this with JRemote, although it did not change anything (I thought this would change the playback volume in respect to the other tracks), and despite this field is not editable in JRiver. Is this intended to edit a non-editable field? -> Depends on API change from MC
Feature Requests:
--- F01: Volume control:
--o- a) adding a plus/minus button to change volume in a controlled way -> Depends on room for icons
--o- b) set the maximum volume in the settings so that the volume bar right end represents this max value (useful for people in apartments and for some devices like Denon and Marantz with a non-linear volume). -> Open
-x- F02: It is good to have volume and seek bar on the main screen now. However, I do not understand, why the layout on the Playing Now screen is different. Why not using the exact same layout for these two sliders and place both of them at the bottom. I think this would be more convenient. -> Declined
-o- F03: Gestures: There were suggestions (and some discussions ) regarding gestures with one and up to three fingers. I just put this here so that you don't forget to implement the gestures in a way you see fit. -> Open
-o- F04: Tag editing for one album only (also from Cassangelo, 19.04.2013) -> Depends on API changes
-o- F05: For albums with multiple discs only the track numbers are shown, therefore there are multiple tracks with 1, 2, etc. Maybe you could add the disc number (but only for albums with multiple discs), either as 1.1, A1, etc. -> To be decided by Lespaul
-x- F06: On the main screen there is no Stop button, only Pause. It is not very important but I think it would be better to have a Stop here too. -> Declined
-x- F07: iPhone only: Change the playback zone on the main screen, not on Playing Now. I know that you plan to solve this with a slide-in menu, so I put this here as a reminder. By the way, I think the Xing app features a very nice slide-in menu. Maybe you want to check this for reference... -> Obsolete
-o- F08: List/add/remove playlists of/to/from a track. I think that quite some people here would like to have that feature. I have started a thread to ask the JRiver developers to provide the necessary SDK/API features: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=80032.0 -> Depends on API changes
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I was told this is too much, at least for now, but I think it would be very useful and an attractive feature, thoughts?
- Have any instance of JRemote appear as an MC zone, thus integrated into the "Treemote" feature of MC.
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Yes, hopefully JRemote will work with transcoded movies soon. Starting a new round of testing soon.
Hi Lespaul - I've been testing various DLNA iStuff players with mixed success for streaming from MC's DLNA Media Server. One profile that seems to work with mainy iStuff players is the existing "MPEG2/DVD/PAL stream with MPEG2 Audio" profile - more here http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=80556.0
My question in regards to this is what profile would you prefer for MC to add to enable you to support streaming in your app (eg Container, Video and Audio format)?
Thanks
Nathan
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I do have some new issues with the new version. I added the old issues with current status at the bottom to make it easier to follow up.
* B07c -UPDATE-: The behavior changed. "Playing Now" for "This device" is not cleared anymore after those 10 to 15 minutes (so this is a good thing). But when I try to start playback again I get an error message "BASS_ERROR_FILEOPEN" followed by some MCWS URL with GetFile command. I get the same error, when I go back to the main view and want to add the tracks to "Playing Now" again (well, I think it is not the adding itself, but start of playback, which is done automatically after adding). Only after reconnecting (either manually or sometimes it happens automatically) it works again and I can start playback without error (actually I think I do not even have to populate "Playing Now" again, it also works with the old list; but I'm not 100% sure).
I too have been getting "bass_error_fileopen" errors - i posted about it on page 4 of this thread.
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I also get the Bass_error_fileOPEN as described in my post here in relation to streaming radio
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=80944.0
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Ok so I'm a n00B here in JRiver-land and a Mac-0-phile to boot…
I just installed JRemote on my iPad and it was wonderful, well until…
I shut stuff down in multiple ways and checked the ability to reconnect…
But when I restarted the Mac itself JRemote said it couldn't find the server.
And one of the Media Network Servers failed to start (my local library server).
So I restarted MC a couple of times, and finally it all hooked up again.
Except that all of the album art went missing in both the apps (MC on my Mac and in JRemote on the iPad)
So I shut down the iPad and restarted the Mac and the album art returned…
Just thought you'd like to hear some anomalous behavior…
JJ
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rickd:
Yes, hopefully JRemote will work with transcoded movies soon. Starting a new round of testing soon.t
That is great news
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don't know if this is possible with the current sdk, but it would be nice if when we long press on a track or album, in the dialogue box that allows you to add a track to the current playlist or add to play next, that there was another option to append to a saved playlist..
sometimes when listening to tracks, I hear one I would like on a specific playlist, currently I would have to load the playlist then add it and save it again. quite a long winded way..
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Hi - the app is consistently crashing when I try and add a server with both my iPhone 4S & my iPad 1 using MC for Mac (v191)...
I've tried rebooting both the iOS devices and my macbook, and set up the media server again hoping that it would connect but still the jremote crashes while trying to add the server.
Any ideas?
UPDATE: was crashing with authorization on... turned off and all is well. Bug?
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1. Can you please bring back the stop button on the main screen, instead of burying it in the “Now Playing” section?
I have been trying to use the app again, and it significantly diminishes JRemote’s usefulness for me, as I now have to juggle between now playing, going back home, and entering the remote view.
2. When Volume Control is disabled on the server, would it be possible to have the control disappear, and expand the progress bar?
3. I am unable to bring up the menu for transcoding options, so it’s stuck at 320k MP3.
4. Can we have an option that disables transcoding for formats which support streaming, and transcodes formats that don’t? (E.g. DSD files)
5. Would it be possible to replace the touchpad area with 4-way directional arrows, or perhaps add arrows overlaying the touch area that you can tap/hold?
Trying to navigate Theatre View is pretty hopeless right now. Only constant swipes are reliable, swipe and hold rarely works properly to scroll through a list. Being able to press and hold a button would be a lot easier.
6. Can you add the ability to display the Watched status of files? I have a view with ~150 videos in it that I am gradually working my way through, and I have to keep checking three or four episodes every time before I find which one I was on last.
7. Is it possible to add the ability to resume videos? Some of these are ~90 minutes long, and if I stop playback in the middle of them, I have no way of knowing where I was last. (And I don’t think that is written to the server either?)
8. In this list of videos, there are some episodes which don’t have a title. When there is no name, there’s all no episode number displayed in JRemote.
9. Videos over an hour in length have the seconds value cut off as 01:22:
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I am running JRemote from iPad Mini to a PC running JRMC17. Every time I use the app, it ends up locking up my WiFi after I end my listening session. Any idea what is happening?
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I hope I'm in the right thread!
Is there a way for me to sink JRemote with my customized views in MC? I want to be able to see file view on my controller the same way I can see it in MC. I prefer to use my own method for organizing my music (in folders / files). I see no way to sink JRemote...??
I appreciate any help.
Thank you.
_Ben
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MC has several sets of customisable views for separate purposes. Remote controls such as JRemote, use the web-services views. You'll have to go into Media Network/Customise views for Gizmo & WebGizmo and set up your views again there. If you've got them saved in Standard View then you can simply select "Add from Standard View" to copy them across.
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1. Can you please bring back the stop button on the main screen, instead of burying it in the “Now Playing” section?
I have been trying to use the app again, and it significantly diminishes JRemote’s usefulness for me, as I now have to juggle between now playing, going back home, and entering the remote view.
1+!
Please bring this button back!
regards Erwin
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Streaming with conversion disabled seems to ignore the native sample rate. I just see 44kHz on my DAC, regardless of the sample rate.
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There is already an option to "Switch zone on server as well as device", but could we also have a facility to "Switch zone on device when server zone changes"?
This is because of the Zoneswitch facility in MC where you can define rules to automatically switch the zone when a file meets certain criteria. If you select a file on JRemote which causes a zone switch, JRemote remains in the old zone and you cannot control the file you have just selected. You have to know which zone the track you have selected is playing in and then switch manually in order to use PlayingNow. I assume this will also happen if you've set up a playlist on JRemote with a mixture of files that will continually cause zone changes.
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Having just started on JRemote I have two issues I need to resolve
(1) how can I remove / delete tracks from the player queue? I cannot find any delete button and neither swiping or clicking seems to do anything. Whatever I put there stays there until I remove it in MC.
(2) when I open a TV show series from the video view the sort order is all screwed up. It is fine when I look at it under disk or in theater mode. Is there a hidden feature somewhere that sets the sort order in video view
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(1) how can I remove / delete tracks from the player queue? I cannot find any delete button and neither swiping or clicking seems to do anything. Whatever I put there stays there until I remove it in MC.
There is an Edit button on the playlist screen and when you press it I think a delete symbol appears against each item (a minus sign).
(2) when I open a TV show series from the video view the sort order is all screwed up. It is fine when I look at it under disk or in theater mode. Is there a hidden feature somewhere that sets the sort order in video view
The views that JRemote uses are the ones exposed by MC's Web services protocol, i.e. the same views as used for Gizmo/Webgizmo, so you need to go into Tools/Options/Media Network/Avanced/Customise Views for Gizmo to set up the views as you want them. There are default views there out of the box so those are probably what you have been seeing. If you have suitable views already set up in MC's front-end then you can copy them into Gizmo views with "Add from Standard View".
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Hi I would like to know does JRemote support browse folder/file mode just like MC "Files"?
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There are quite a few people asking about how to add the "File" browsing view in JRemote.
This is the procedure to do so:
1. Go to Tools > Options > Media Network.
2. Open the advanced section.
3. Select "Customize views for gizmo & Webgizmo..."
4. Make sure "Audio" is selected in the left side list.
5. Click "Add..." button.
6. Select "Library item from standard view".
7. Select "Audio\Files".
8. Click "OK" and close the option windows.
9. Done, but you may need to close and reopen JRiver.
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Streaming with conversion disabled seems to ignore the native sample rate. I just see 44kHz on my DAC, regardless of the sample rate.
This is one of the things I have to look at regarding the new streaming code. Another thing is gapless playback.
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There are quite a few people asking about how to add the "File" browsing view in JRemote.
This is the procedure to do so:
1. Go to Tools > Options > Media Network.
2. Open the advanced section.
3. Select "Customize views for gizmo & Webgizmo..."
4. Make sure "Audio" is selected in the left side list.
5. Click "Add..." button.
6. Select "Library item from standard view".
7. Select "Audio\Files".
8. Click "OK" and close the option windows.
9. Done, but you may need to close and reopen JRiver.
Yo! Very nice reply. Let me buy jremote and try tonight. Many thanks.
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Hi,
I'm using JRemote/JRiver with my windows PC connected to a external DAC through USB. So far so good, I love JRemote and the way I can browse my music library.
Now I'm thinking of getting a Linn DS and using JRiver/JRemote to control it. Can someone tell me if that would work? I've read of people using this combination without any problems, other people are saying I need a plugin called Catwalk, other report problem with gapless. I love JRemote so much I'd never get the DS knowing I couldn't use JRemote :-)
Thanks in advance.
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If it'll work with JRiver then it'll work with JRemote. You might be better asking the question in the main MC18 forum or the Media Network forum.
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Thanks csimon, I'll do
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This is one of the things I have to look at regarding the new streaming code. Another thing is gapless playback.
Gapless playback please!
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I hope someone can help me here...
I'm getting a "BASS_ERROR_TIMEOUT" message with JRemote every time tracks change on an album when streamed to an iOS device. So I can't play more than one song with JRemote. This is new to the latest driver... it used to work just fine.
When I just use JRemote to manage the server directly, playback is fine.
I have a library of FLAC files. I have MC set to no transcoding, and JRemote set the same way. Sound is great; it's not a network issue that I can see (or hear).
FWIW, I regularly stream video from the same server; it's fast, the network is fast, and even high-bitstream flacs play flawlessly through JRemote to an iOS device--one at a time! So I'm ecstatic that JRemote can play these files on an iOS device (thanks!). But I have to be able to play more than one song without manually selecting the next one :)
When I switch to MP3 transcoding, I get the same error on the iOS device. FWIW, MC streams fine to other DLNA clients (like a Sony Media player, with MP3 playback).
Latest JRemote drivers on an iPhone 4s and iPad v3, with latest iOS on both.
MC is Windows v18.0.194
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I'm getting a "BASS_ERROR_TIMEOUT" message with JRemote every time tracks change on an album when streamed to an iOS device. So I can't play more than one song with JRemote. This is new to the latest driver... it used to work just fine.
I saw this too, but only when my HD was spun down. Once it spun up, I haven't seen the error.
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I saw this too, but only when my HD was spun down. Once it spun up, I haven't seen the error.
That makes sens.
But the funny thing with the timeout error on the second song in a playlist or album is that the hard drive *can't* be spun down, can it? It's true I'm using USB3 drives, that do go into this weird power saving mode if they're idle. But as I said, I have no trouble streaming music libraries (through JRiver), or videos, or MP3s to a Sony media player, or anything else from them... except JRemote to an iOS device.
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Have been getting he same BASS_ERROR_TIMEOUT issues too - I posted about it a page or so back.
Only started happening with latest build.
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What are the chances of having other metadata available to edit through the remote. In particular, I would love to be able to add my own, to switch out "Filename," for instance, with something else. I have a special Ratings field that I use with decimal ratings that I would love to be able to remotely fill.
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There might be one way you could manage this now, but it isn't the most elegant way.
JRemote will show you fields that have values. If you assign your decimal My Ratings field to a -1 value, then JRemote will show it and you can edit. Assume -1 means Unrated (and from our offline conversations, you would change your special view to test -1 instead of emptiness).
You could use MC's auto-import rules to always assign -1 to My Ratings (only when it is empty), so there's no work or remembering to initialize the value (except in certain cases like Scheduler or Podcasts).
But better would be if JRemote supported an Always Show for designated fields.
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Oh, that's brilliant!!
Thanks.
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Or you could just open for edit any tag field that shows up in JRemote, change the tag name to whatever field you want to add/edit and add the tag value.
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I think JRemote is great. Just to reiterate what I said in my five-star review:
Would love to have gapless playback. Would pay more for DSP!
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Lespaul:
Have you considered adding WOL over Wan in addition to normal WOL? Would be very cool to be able to wake up your server when you're on 3G or on some foreign wifi... You could only send the magic pack over wan, assuming the user have it's router configured to wol over wan (helps with the power bill ;D)
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Couple things:
1) the alphabet on the right side definitely does not work to jump to that part of the catalog. A bug?
2) I can't get a newly generated field with an expression to appear in the metadata. Why would this be so?
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2) I can't get a newly generated field with an expression to appear in the metadata. Why would this be so?
You must restart MC completely (do not forget to kill the media server which resides in the Windows tray) for changes to the media server ui to take effect on JRemote.
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You must restart MC completely (do not forget to kill the media server which resides in the Windows tray) for changes to the media server ui to take effect on JRemote.
This still does not work for me. Are you able to get user creates fields with expression data to appear? I can get user created fields with user data to appear, but not ones with expression data.
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This still does not work for me. Are you able to get user creates fields with expression data to appear? I can get user created fields with user data to appear, but not ones with expression data.
Expression fields appear just fine for me.
Or are you looking for them in the JRemote edit tags area? They will not appear there (and they cannot be edited using JRemote).
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Denti wants wants to be able to quickly enter a decimal number in one user field via JRemote, and be able to see the results of a calculated field which is based on that decimal field.
Ideally, one could specify an Always Show edit field (like Denti's _Rating (track) field), so that one could quickly enter a value for various tracks.
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Expression fields appear just fine for me.
Where do you get to these? I don't see any under the list of tags (by pressing the tag icon).
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Expression fields appear just fine for me.
Or are you looking for them in the JRemote edit tags area? They will not appear there (and they cannot be edited using JRemote).
I don't want to be able to change the data, obviously, since it's an expression field. But yeah, I don't see any expression fields I create in the metadata. And yes, I'm looking under Search, not Edit. Where else can I look?
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Another issue I have is with the text that displays below thumbnails of album art, as in:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/3320aqo.jpg)
Here I am unable to distinguish between my three versions of Trout Mask Replica or my two versions of the VU's third album. The data included in the title (eg 2013 remaster, 24/96 vinyl rip, etc.) is cut off, because there's only so much space given to the text. Can this be changed somehow, say by allowing two lines for text?
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But yeah, I don't see any expression fields I create in the metadata. And yes, I'm looking under Search, not Edit. Where else can I look?
They will not show up there either. You only get in JRemote search and edit tags what you can see in MC tag action window.
Expression fields can be used to create categories for display. You probably have a view with the stock expression field Album Artist (auto), for example.
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I'm confused. Can I or can I not create and expression field and have it show up in the metadata?
And no, the stock field Album Artist (auto) does not appear in the metadata, either.
The only place where I see I might add a field is on the album view where I have no. of tracks, total time of album, bit rate, file type, and date. Where can't change these?
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FYI: iPad screen capture. (http://www.simplehelp.net/2010/04/03/how-to-take-a-screenshot-of-your-ipad/)
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I'm confused. Can I or can I not create and expression field and have it show up in the metadata?
No, not in the metadata in JRemote or the MC tag window.
You can though use an expression field in JRemote. In the thumbs view you can currently only show one line in JRemote. Switch to some other view and you can see more of that one line, which can be an expression field.
MrC is of course right, show us a screenshot and tell us what you want to do.
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Thanks, so how does one use an expression field in JRemote if one cannot see these fields?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mmiyo.jpg)
Thanks for the tip, MrC. So in this view, can I change what info appears on the album: artist, title are obvious, but the line below that with total tracks and times, etc. is what interests me.
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So in this view, can I change what info appears on the album: artist, title are obvious, but the line below that with total tracks and times, etc. is what interests me.
You can change the first line (Robeson, Paul...) with an expression field but not the second line or what is displayed for the individual tracks.
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Ok, thanks.
I would ask the developers, then, to strongly consider adding the ability to add such user generated expression fields to the metadata. It would really make this product a slam-dunk for me.
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One little thing that has been bugging me about the current build of JRemote (which is otherwise pretty much perfect for my needs, except video) is that it no longer stops playback when I unplug my phone from my car stereo.
I have an iPhone 5, first of all, so a lightning connector (though I don't think this matters, I think my wife's 4S does the same). My car stereo has a USB input, and I can connect the regular iPhone charging cable directly to it. Basically all other audio apps stop playback automatically when I unplug the phone, and JRemote used to do this too, but now it doesn't. When I unplug, it pauses for a split second, but then playback resumes using the iPhone speaker.
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One little thing that has been bugging me about the current build of JRemote (which is otherwise pretty much perfect for my needs, except video) is that it no longer stops playback when I unplug my phone from my car stereo.
Agreed. I really liked this feature a lot.
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Have been getting he same BASS_ERROR_TIMEOUT issues too - I posted about it a page or so back.
Only started happening with latest build.
Yeah, it used to work just fine track to track...
I was going to try it on my Mac mini but something won't let me connect there anymore :(
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What is the easiest way to interact with MC 18 and television programs via JRemote?
I am using JRemote on an iPad and only have access to Video and Audio categories.
Is there a way to scan the EPG on the iPad or change the channels?
So far I can only load recordings that I made in the past.
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Just a quick update on a new version.
Some of the features include:
- Enhanced iPhone interface. As well as a new slide-in menu, there is a play bar at the bottom of the screen for information about current track and play/pause, next buttons.
- New thumbnail view mode for iPhone. Similar to iPad version.
- Gapless playback for all formats when streaming
- Streaming now plays 96khz 24 bit files without down sampling.
. Link/Unlink zones from zone menu
- Delete playlists from load/save playlist dialog.
Regarding iOS7:
This will require quite a bit of change in both design and code. There is a big chance that the JRemote version released after iOS7 launches will no longer support iOS 5 and 6. Let me know if this is a problem for you guys. Maintaining backward compatibility would be quite messy.
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iOS7 - I have a first gen iPad so have 5.1 and will not receive any further changes/bug fixes you make to the app, so I will be disappointed. I'm not spending hundreds of pounds on a new iPad just for this app, so am disappointed that you're considering ending development on first gen iPads. There are still a few bugs and basic usability things that I am hopeful for, even if I never get any more enhancements, for example:
1. Don't switch back to list view in while browsing videos, stay in thumbnail view. (see Page 3 of this topic)
2. Ability to view and manage the current playlist while in portrait mode (this isn't possible currently).
3. Switch zones on device when zone changes on server due to a Zoneswitch rule - otherwise you cannot control what's currently playing. (see Page 5 of this topic)
4. Return of the Stop button. (requested in several places)
I understand your position and I hate Apple for doing this. It's almost a deliberate tactic.
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The stop button will be back in the new release.
I`ll see what I can do about the rest for the next small release.
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It's almost a deliberate tactic.
It's very deliberate, but it's necessary from their pov. I feel your pain, but you can't maintain backward compatibility forever without ending up with some horrible lash-up or being unable to compete with rival offerings.
Losing iOS5&6 compatibility wouldn't bother me personally. Maybe you should start a poll to gauge the reaction to issuing the iOS7 version as a new app altogether though? If there's a lot of work to do you could argue it's justified. Not much point if you're not able to keep developing the legacy version in parallel though.
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but you can't maintain backward compatibility forever without ending up with some horrible lash-up or being unable to compete with rival offerings.
It's not forever though is it, it's actually only 3 years since the iPad was first released and since then it's been obsoleted and got to the point where software written only 2 years can no longer be maintained. Imagine the outcry if Microsoft had done that with Windows. Apple could very easily introduce new things without breaking old ones. So, one of these things has to happen:
1. No longer maintain old software, therefore if early-adopters want to retain access to upgrades then they must spend a lot of money on a new computer. Apple gain big time. Early adopters lose big time.
2. Maintain two versions of the software, meaning that if people upgrade to iOS7 then they must buy the app again. Apple gain slightly. Later adopters lose slightly. Developer gains slightly on revenue but looses on maintaining mulitple versions.
3. Maintain one version of the software but make it backwards compatible. Developer loses on increased work to make it backwards-compatible. Users neither lose nor gain except maybe on increased length of time between releases, Apple neither loses nor gains.
Anyway, I'll try not to turn this into an anti-Apple rant!
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What does iOS 7 add that would be useful for JRemote, that is not available in previous versions?
I'm running iOS 7 on my iPad now, and JRemote seems to work just fine. (though it doesn't always connect without force quitting the app first)
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Going OT now. Sorry.
Imagine the outcry if Microsoft had done that with Windows. Apple could very easily introduce new things without breaking old ones.
You're right: Microsoft bent over backwards to maintain backward compatibility, resulting in a horrible lash-up with many problems, not least of which was terrible security. This prompted an outcry and people looking at Linux and Apple as alternatives. Swings and roundabouts.
With option 3 users lose out on improvements to the platform and Apple loses as users prefer to migrate to platforms that aren't standing still. Remember Blackberry?
The only answer is to buy hardware and software for what it does right now. There's no such thing as 'future-proof' and never has been.
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6233638, When you run apps compiled for iOS6 on iOS7 you are in sort of a compatibility mode.
When i compile JRemote with the new iOS7 sdk, it`s not pretty, and not really working all that well.
So, yes, there is a lot that needs to be done.
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Apple have done this many times over. Remember when OS X came out? The switch to Intel processors after years of saying how much worse they were?
As much as it sucks, it's to be expected when you buy an Apple product.
6233638, When you run apps compiled for iOS6 on iOS7 you are in sort of a compatibility mode.
When i compile JRemote with the new iOS7 sdk, it`s not pretty, and not really working all that well.
Can you not continue to use the previous compiler if the new one is giving you trouble? I haven't a clue about iOS development, so if you think it's necessary, as the developer it's up to you I suppose. I haven't really run into any issues running the current version on iOS7 though, aside from sometimes failing to connect to my server. Streaming videos and controlling MC works just fine.
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There was some talk about an Android version of JRemote... any news on this? ;D
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Zero problems here with abandoning the earlier OS's.
You cant support older devices forever.
Thanks,
Patrick
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Zero problems here with abandoning the earlier OS's.
You cant support older devices forever.
+1
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Super quick question-I got jremote and have it working on a basic level with my iPhone/ipad. So far I like
The question: PC-MC-jremote-wdtv live....is this combo possible? Can I use jremote to push stuff to the wd box?
Thanks, great app guys, the price was worth it after I streamed my first album in bed in flac!
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If Media Center can push to a WDTV Live, it shouldn't be a problem via JRemote.
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That's right - JRemote is a remote control so if the WDTV appears as a zone in the main program then it will also appear in JRemote as a zone. JRemote itself won't push to the WDTV - it will instruct MC to push to it.
If it doesn't appear in JRemote then first diagnose why it's not appearing in MC itself. You will need to enable MC as a DLNA server and controller and if the WDTV doesn't appear then it may be a problem with your network/firewall.
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Just a quick note about certain zones not showing up in JRemote.
At the moment zones are only loaded once when you connect to the server.
If zones are added to MC after that, they wont display in JRemote.
In order to refresh the zones list, you need to reconnect to the server.
Not saying that this is the issue here though.
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Some of the features include:
- Enhanced iPhone interface. As well as a new slide-in menu, there is a play bar at the bottom of the screen for information about current track and play/pause, next buttons.
Will the ability to update/add ratings in IPod Touch/IPhone version be addressed. This is one issue that hasn't been fixed through various updates. That's the only problem I have with JRemote but it's a fairly big one for me. I only listen through JRiver controlled by JRemote, so effectively, I'm unable to rate any songs.
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I'm running JRemote on a iPhone 3gs iOS 6.1.3. Not planning on upgrading anytime soon, so iOS7 = -1 for me.
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Just a quick update on a new version.
Some of the features include:
- Enhanced iPhone interface. As well as a new slide-in menu, there is a play bar at the bottom of the screen for information about current track and play/pause, next buttons.
- New thumbnail view mode for iPhone. Similar to iPad version.
- Gapless playback for all formats when streaming
- Streaming now plays 96khz 24 bit files without down sampling.
. Link/Unlink zones from zone menu
- Delete playlists from load/save playlist dialog.
Regarding iOS7:
This will require quite a bit of change in both design and code. There is a big chance that the JRemote version released after iOS7 launches will no longer support iOS 5 and 6. Let me know if this is a problem for you guys. Maintaining backward compatibility would be quite messy.
Not supporting ipad1 would be a problem for me...at the moment, as a lot of new games and apps require more horsepower than it can provide, it is looking likely that I will have to consign the ipad1 to the living room / home as a glorified Harmony remote - which is fine as it is perfect for that.
I will then have to save up for a new iPad!
I think the idea that paul1970 already posted about releasing a brand new version for those that always want to be at the cutting edge (ios7) and want all the bells and whistles - JRemote seems to be getting more and more complicated by the day - can get that.
This current version would not be developed further, but maybe just bug fixed as a maintenance release.
Each to their own, but it would seem to me commercially there is a market for a simple version of JRemote (probably where we are now...) and the all singing all dancing version for the techies and audiophiles that have the Naim receivers, the DACs and want all the video playback features etc etc.
At the very least, please give notice before releasing the new "must have ios7" version so those of us that have legacy hardware can make sure we are on the last supported version.
Would obviously love to see the BASS_ERROR bug fixed before you move to ios7 too.
Love JRemote, appreciate the world moves on and that you are even asking for peoples opinion.
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If supporting both paths of code isn't practical, maybe fork your code to minimize updates to critical issues, or highly-valued features.
The new code-base might be JRemote2 with IOS 7 as the minimum requirement. I am willing to pay for an update, and I suppose many others would be too, especially if new goodies are also part of the new release.
Entice, but don't punish.
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MrC - words of wisdom sir
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If supporting both paths of code isn't practical, maybe fork your code to minimize updates to critical issues, or highly-valued features.
The new code-base might be JRemote2 with IOS 7 as the minimum requirement. I am willing to pay for an update, and I suppose many others would be too, especially if new goodies are also part of the new release.
Entice, but don't punish.
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Why cant earlier OS users simply NOT update the app?
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I don't think the store will allow you to download if your device doesn't meet the minimum requirements. But the issue is there will be no more bug fixes or enhancements for early adopters, even if those enhancements don't use any new facilities that the new OS offers.
I have a vested interest as I have a 1st gen iPad! But why recompile with the latest SDK unless there's a need to? It's not like this is happening with any other apps I have, they're all still being updated and offered for iOS 5.1.
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Why cant earlier OS users simply NOT update the app?
Apple is stupid in the way that it handles updates, so that it allows people to update their apps to versions their devices don't support. Hell, until iOS 6, it still asked for a password every time you wanted to update apps.
Apps seem to get so many updates on iOS, it's unrealistic to not do anything other than hit "Update All" and if you accidentally update, there's no way to download an older version of an app.
If iOS 7 excludes a number of devices that JRemote runs on, I would suggest a new version that only runs on iOS 7 rather than updating the current version, if the plan is to drop iOS 5/6 support.
I think it would be foolish to move to an iOS 7 only version though. An app like JRemote is the perfect application for an older iOS device you have kicking around that may not see much use for anything else.
In fact, I have often wondered if it was possible to hack an old iPod so that it bypassed the lock screen and simply opened up JRemote directly when waking the device, to use as a dedicated remote.
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Apple is stupid in the way that it handles updates, so that it allows people to update their apps to versions their devices don't support.
Oh! ::)
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Apple is stupid in the way that it handles updates, so that it allows people to update their apps to versions their devices don't support.
Allows sure, but it doesn't force you.
Like I said, dont update the app and you will be fine.
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Allows sure, but it doesn't force you.
Like I said, dont update the app and you will be fine.
I get 2-3 app updates every couple of days. I only bother to update once or twice a week now as a result of this, hitting the "Update All" button. It's very easy to accidentally update an app you don't want.
For example, I actually liked the old Podcasts app with the reel-to-reel interface. In most cases I dislike skeuomorphic design, but that's one place that I thought it was a neat thing to have. It's not like there was anything else they could have been doing with that space, and the updated version just looks like they ripped it all out without considering how plain and unfinished it would look.
So I tried to avoid updating it, but after a week or two of being annoyed by a permanent notification sitting there (I have notifications disabled for all other apps, unless they are actually important) I eventually hit "update all" absent-mindedly, and have no way of going back to it. Now that I'm running iOS 7, that's not even an option, as it updates everything automatically - which is great until it downloads a broken update, or if an update is released that no longer supports my device.
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Csimon is right on the money. I have 1st gen iPad and am considering it as a dedicated remote exactly as you describe.
I think most people who have commented on here agree the fork in development is the smart thing to do.
For the others that want to maintain"cutting edge" ios they may have to dip into their pockets for another $5 for the ios7 version of the app...a small price to pay to support the development of an amazing piece of software.
(To be honest, we've all got our money's worth on this piece of software already with all the added features lespaul has upgraded for free).
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(To be honest, we've all got our money's worth on this piece of software already with all the added features lespaul has upgraded for free).
Exactly. Just roll with the punches. You iPad and my old iPhone 3G are SOL. Im not losing sleep over it.
You iPad is basically worthless in every other way (hence your dedicating it exclusively as a remote) yet you expect ONE app, a tiny app, to continue to support you despite Apple ditching you?? Come on, get over it. Buy a new iPad for like $500. Big deal.
-P
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Or you could drop $5 on the new version of the app. :) it's not like we are all not used to paying for improvements, I just got my email for the pre-order of mc19.
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I love the app running on my obsolete iPad 1 and my iPhone 4S and would be happy to pay for a Jremote2 for ios 7 compatibility, keeping current JRemote for iPad 1, even if no further development is done on the current version.
With MC19 coming out it makes even more sense to make a new JRemote 2 to coincide with the new release of MC19.
I'd love to see it for windows 8 too!
Cheers!
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Apart from the Windows 8 comment (!), I think most people have already indicated on here they agree with you.
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Will the ability to update/add ratings in IPod Touch/IPhone version be addressed. This is one issue that hasn't been fixed through various updates. That's the only problem I have with JRemote but it's a fairly big one for me. I only listen through JRiver controlled by JRemote, so effectively, I'm unable to rate any songs.
+1 on this. I totally miss this ability.
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I have been playing around with JRemote for about a week and finally encountered a problem that I can't solve.
When I hit the Now Playing button, I am taken to a screen with the album cover artwork.
Unfortunately the iPad screen is obscured by another window that looks like the metadata for another track that was playing earlier.
That window allows me to switch between metadata and band bio, but I can't figure out how to close the window.
What do I need to do if I want to see the album artwork on the iPad screen again?
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What do I need to do if I want to see the album artwork on the iPad screen again?
Click on the button, top right, that looks like two tags again. It is a toggle.
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Click on the button, top right, that looks like two tags again. It is a toggle.
There are no buttons in the upper right corner.
Across the top of the screen, I see a house icon in the upper left and a volume slider in the middle.
Across the bottom of the screen, there are play controls in the lower left and two tabs "Metadata" and "Artist Bio" in the lower right.
Nea the the bottom left, behind the popup (but still accessible) is a shuffle play toggle.
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There are no buttons in the upper right corner.
Across the top of the screen, I see a house icon in the upper left and a volume slider in the middle.
Across the bottom of the screen, there are play controls in the lower left and two tabs "Metadata" and "Artist Bio" in the lower right.
Nea the the bottom left, behind the popup (but still accessible) is a shuffle play toggle.
Hmm. I just rotated the iPad 90% (from portrait to landscape) and now there is a button in the upper right corner.
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Hi! New user here.
I just got MC 18 for Mac and JRemote a few days ago. I got everything working smoothly with a server
and client machine on my home network. JRemote will connect to my machines and control or stream
back to my Iphone4 while i'm within my home network, but when i leave my house and try to use,
i can't connect to the server. I have my ip address in the global settings with port :52199
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Hi! New user here.
I just got MC 18 for Mac and JRemote a few days ago. I got everything working smoothly with a server
and client machine on my home network. JRemote will connect to my machines and control or stream
back to my Iphone4 while i'm within my home network, but when i leave my house and try to use,
i can't connect to the server. I have my ip address in the global settings with port :52199
Your router probably isn't forwarding the packets. Or a firewall is blocking. See the wiki topic called "Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access)".
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Hmm. I just rotated the iPad 90% (from portrait to landscape) and now there is a button in the upper right corner.
I can see what you mean now. It looks like a clear UI bug: Either metadata should not be shown in portrait mode (since it lacks a playlist and does not update with track changes) or there should be a top right metadata toggle button in portrait mode as well.
Good catch.
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Your router probably isn't forwarding the packets. Or a firewall is blocking. See the wiki topic called "Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access)".
Thanks, got it working. Had the wrong ip address of the local computer.
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I long-hold an item to clear the playlist and again to add the selected items to the playlist. However, I'm finding this adds my entire collection to the playlist, so it seems there's a bug here. It also seems I can't clear the Now Playing playlist.
Anyone else?
My mistake. All is fine.
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I long-hold an item to clear the playlist and again to add the selected items to the playlist. However, I'm finding this adds my entire collection to the playlist, so it seems there's a bug here. It also seems I can't clear the Now Playing playlist.
Anyone else?
MC is not running right now so I cannot test, but it worked for me earlier today, or at least yesterday.
Did you try a restart of MC including Media Server, or a reboot? Perhaps you have a later MC build than I.
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Ah, silly me. I had a view called Playing Now under Audio. I kept looking at this item, which was a Search List. Duh.
Everything works fine. Thanks, and sorry for the noise.
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Ah, silly me. I had a view called Playing Now under Audio. I kept looking at this item, which was a Search List. Duh.
Everything works fine. Thanks, and sorry for the noise.
No worries. It is just good to see that you are human after all ;). You deserve some chickens from JRiver, dead or alive (not you, of course, the poultry), for the patience and good mood you display on the forums and the dedicated and thorough support you give so generously. You certainly give added value to the excellent but complicated MC product. Thanks! I sure have benefited from it.
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Two more things I noticed while playing back Masterpiece Mystery:
1) The episode is 91 minutes but the time remaining in the lower right corner seems to think the show is 31 minutes. The elapsed time is 4 and the time remaining is 27.
2) The audio format is 48/16 stereo (from metadata) but is displayed as 0 channels, 0Hz when I select "now playing" on the iPad display.
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No worries. It is just good to see that you are human after all ;). You deserve some chickens from JRiver, dead or alive (not you, of course, the poultry), for the patience and good mood you display on the forums and the dedicated and thorough support you give so generously. You certainly give added value to the excellent but complicated MC product. Thanks! I sure have benefited from it.
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Hello to everybody,
I'm new here, I like your software but I have a problem: I cannot control the volume with JRemote.
The server is an AssetNAS with JRiver MC18 and my player is a Linn Akurate Ds and it is cabled to the Majik Dsi.
I can browse my collection and play the tracks, but I cannot manage the volume of the Majik.
The volume on the JRemote is set to 80 (I don't know why) but when I volume up or down the bar, the volume don't change and after 3 seconds it will come back to 80.
Please help help me :P
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Hello to everybody ... Sorry I found the way it works now I can listen .... Goodbyeeee
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I just wanted to mention that I, personally, have no issue with going iOS7-only.
However, I think MrC made the best suggestion. The issue is that I agree with some other users here. JRemote is a good use for older devices that don't have the oomph to run modern stuff, but which still otherwise function perfectly. Throw it on the living room coffee table, with JRemote and a few other remote control apps, and it could be a perfectly functional remote, even though it doesn't have the newest hotness. I don't happen to have any of those devices, but if I did, that'd be exactly what I was thinking about doing with them.
And, as he mentioned, I'm happy to pay for an upgrade. I use JRemote probably second only to my podcasting client, and it'd certainly be worth throwing a few more bucks your way. I also think the massive changes with iOS 7 are a unique opportunity to do this with less screaming from the bleachers (some people will, of course, scream about the "paid upgrade", but fewer of them will, because it will be somewhat "understandable").
Fork the code. Keep the current version in the App Store, clearly marked as the "old version" for backwards compatiblity, and release JRemote 2 for iOS7. You'll get some screams from people who are angry that they have to pay again, and a few more from new people who accidentally got the wrong version (maybe lower the price of the original one since it won't be developed much anymore), but you'll get "upgrade revenue" from people like me, so I think that'll soften the blow a bit. And, most importantly, you won't have to kludge it with two nearly completely independent UIs internally.
If you're ever going to do it, now is the time.
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I am more than happy to pay for an upgrade. Good points (as always) Glynor.
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I Will Pay for the ios7 only versión as well :)
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Hello to everybody ... Sorry I found the way it works now I can listen .... Goodbyeeee
I am glad you got it working. How about sharing the details with the rest of the newbies?
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I am glad you got it working. How about sharing the details with the rest of the newbies?
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Good idea, it's very easy, I just change the rooms name for the 2 machine (Akurate and Majik) that before had the same name in order to use volume on Kinsky app.
That's it.
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Les Paul, Just wanted to check in about a requested feature, particularly as you think about the end of features for an iOS 5 version (as with many others I'm using an ipad 1 as my living room remote, and so can't even get to iOS 6).
Including a keyboard in the Theater View remote would be great for the times when we need to search the library (or even more so, streaming services such as Netflix).
Totally understand if this isn't possible or a priority and so we shouldn't expect it for non-ios7 (or any) devices, but wanted to check in to get your thoughts. Thanks!
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PS. on the iOS7 debate...
On the JRemote.net site, it declares as one of the major selling points:
JRemote is a universal iOS application. This means you can install it on all of your iOS devices, no need to buy a separate iPad edition...
This won't be true if it goes iOS7+ only, or even a forked app, will it? Just saying!
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PS. on the iOS7 debate...
On the JRemote.net site, it declares as one of the major selling points:
This won't be true if it goes iOS7+ only, or even a forked app, will it? Just saying!
Well nothing has happened yet. And he will only need to add the number "7" just before "devices". An easy change if he does anything.
-Patrick
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Glynor you nailed it. (As did MrC before) I will be that person that has the old legacy device BUT I also have a newer device and so WILL buy the forked ios7 version too.
As you say there will always be those people that aren't happy, but right now with all the current functionality they are getting a bargain anyway...having said that, it looks like some of them seem to be coming round now too... :)
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It seems when the "no sound", BASS_ERROR_FILEOPEN error occurs, the tracks position is no longer maintained.
I'm seeing this error more frequently, and it is not due to a spun down disk as I spectulated earlier.
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Some of the album artwork is scrambled in album view. All the titles listed under "#" have the wrong cover. However if I select one of those albums, the correct artwork is displayed on the screen showing all of the album tracks.
I checked in MC and all of the correct artwork is displayed there.
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Some of the album artwork is scrambled in album view. All the titles listed under "#" have the wrong cover. However if I select one of those albums, the correct artwork is displayed on the screen showing all of the album tracks.
I checked in MC and all of the correct artwork is displayed there.
Try deleting the cached images under settings.
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The problem resolved itself without any intervention from me.
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Hello There,
Is there a possibility to have a choice in genres by movies?
As fr as I know is this only possible by music.
Regards,
Jacky
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These are defined in MC's options:
Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo...
Look at the Audio example there. Copy the idea to Video.
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Howdy,
Having this same issue with either JRemote or My River.
JRemote will not connect unless I remote into my server and "Media Center 18.exe" then starts. JRiver Media Center 18 automatically starts once I log in (remote desktop) into the Server.
Once that is loaded and the libary found, JRemote or the other program will connect with no isues.
I have the STARTUP setting in JRiver to auto start: "Start Media Center and Media Server"
I know this is something simple, just not finding it.
MC 18.0.26
JRemote 2.35
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Got it working now....
Found JRiver was set to MANUAL for startup in services. Changed to Auto. Went into JRiver and in Tools>Options>Startup only selected Media Center. Restarted twice and both times JRemote connects fine.
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Thanks Mr.C,
I will give it a try.
Regards,
Jacky :)
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It seems when the "no sound", BASS_ERROR_FILEOPEN error occurs, the tracks position is no longer maintained.
I'm seeing this error more frequently, and it is not due to a spun down disk as I spectulated earlier.
Yup. I have never seen this before, but all of a sudden it is popping up. I haven't updated anything.... Strange.
-patrick
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Hi,
I want to set JRiver as a service to avoid logon the system...
I can use NSSM (http://nssm.cc) to run it as service, and JRemote can connect to it, but the music doesn't start or get any sound...
Can you help?
Thanks
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I have been using JRemote for several months now. Love it. I just figured out how to set a new view in Media Center to display artists & then albums by release year....from first to last. I expected JRemote to then also display them in this way but that hasn't happened. Is there something else I need to do to have all artists albums display from their oldest thru their newest?
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I have been using JRemote for several months now. Love it. I just figured out how to set a new view in Media Center to display artists & then albums by release year....from first to last. I expected JRemote to then also display them in this way but that hasn't happened. Is there something else I need to do to have all artists albums display from their oldest thru their newest?
Presumably you have created your custom view in Standard View in MC? JRemote uses the Gizmo views so you need to recreate your view in Gizmo views. See http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.msg554920;topicseen#msg554920 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.msg554920;topicseen#msg554920)/
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Awesome! Thx for pointing me in the right direction.
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I am a new user of MC and JRemote. I imported about 1300 CD's I had ripped earlier. I wanted to "clean up" some of the classifications, and started to change the metadata while in JRemote. But when I tried to save it, I got an error message about not having the right privileges or authentication. Can someone tell me where/how I fix that? My preference is to configure JRiver and JRemote with the least amount of passwords, etc. as possible. Thanks. -- David
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I successfully created the view I wanted for the iPad ap by adjusting views first, then settings for Gizmo. What I wanted was for artists to display with albums in chronological order from first thru most recent. I created 2 views....one for Artists and another, using the files template, to view my folders on my NAS which I have 3 of; CD Rips, Hi Rex WAV & LoRes Downloads. My only issue now is with the "File" view. I get what i want....albums appear in chronological order but when I sect an album all tracks are in random play order. I've tried to figure out why but cannot get the tracks to appear in the correct album order. Any ideas?
Thx!
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Try Set Rules For file Display, and set the sort order to Track #.
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Thank you. Will try it.
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Hi Guys,
I have still not decided on the future of JRemote regarding iOS 7, but I appreciate your suggestions.
To be honest I have not yet started the work on that since I want to add some more missing features to the current version.
It has been a bit delayed due to vacation etc, but I do intend to push it out soon.
Also, based on your feedback, there will probably be one smaller release before the iOS7 version.
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With JRemote is possible to select something like profiles, for headphones and speakers?
If not, can this be implemented in the future?
Thanks
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Am I the only one who's having trouble with the alphabet on the right? It doesn't work for me to jump to a particular part of my library.
I see now that it's jumping to first names that start with the given letter, even though I have the library sorted by last name. Any way to fix this?
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Am I the only one who's having trouble with the alphabet on the right? It doesn't work for me to jump to a particular part of my library.
I see now that it's jumping to first names that start with the given letter, even though I have the library sorted by last name. Any way to fix this?
Any ideas how I could fix this?
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Gizmo Settings?
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Gizmo Settings?
I don't see how... I have my artist field sorted by last name but with first name still visible as first name. The alphabet bar seems only to see the first letter of the artist's first name, which is throwing everything off. Help?
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More questions related to the above:
1) is it possible to set a default view under each category? the three are thumbnail, list with small thumbnail, and list.
2) how can I set the display features of each of these views?
3) within each view I can select to view "A-Z" or just a list. The former adds letters within the list and sorts by first letter, no matter how I've set up my sort function in Gizmo; the latter displays exactly as I've set it up in Gizmo (sort by last name, ignores "the, a, etc"
3a) NOTE: in thumbnail view I cannot select between these (A-Z / list) and that's part of why I'm having trouble with the alphabet seek function, I assume.
I have to select these views each time I open up J.Remote. The default is thumbnail. It stays that way until I shut down and reopen either MC or the remote.
4) Can I add to the thumbnail text as I can in Standard View in MC? (I've tried this in Gizmo and the added text does not appear, so I assume no. But this would be a nice feature)
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LesPaul - I've no problem with paying some more for a new version - JRemote makes a huge contribution to the ease with which I can listen to my music, and it costs a paltry amount of money in the scheme of things. Charge away. You deserve it.
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Fork the code. Keep the current version in the App Store, clearly marked as the "old version" for backwards compatiblity, and release JRemote 2 for iOS7. You'll get some screams from people who are angry that they have to pay again, and a few more from new people who accidentally got the wrong version (maybe lower the price of the original one since it won't be developed much anymore), but you'll get "upgrade revenue" from people like me, so I think that'll soften the blow a bit. And, most importantly, you won't have to kludge it with two nearly completely independent UIs internally.
If you're ever going to do it, now is the time.
Speaking of now is the time ... how will Media Center 19 fit into this? It would seem there's so many new features, and possible changes (eg, volume leveling), JRemote development may need to separate MC19 from previous versions(?) ... possibly not for control of your media center, but I'm talking about connecting to the MC19 server for local playback on the iPod/iPhone(?)
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Hi there,
Is there a way to use JRemote to stream YouTube videos to different sources? That is, search for a youtibe video and then "send" it from the Ipad to my WDTV unit via JRemote (the way that i now send videos or songs from my server)?
Thanks
Dave
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No, there isn't a way to do this.
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Is there a way to set JRemote to use the first listing (Track list with no thumbnails) as the default?
This is the vertical listing of tracks on an album but without the thumbnails next to each song/track.
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Is there a way to set JRemote to use the first listing (Track list with no thumbnails) as the default?
This is the vertical listing of tracks on an album but without the thumbnails next to each song/track.
This is something I've touched on. I think it remembers certain settings but it seems a bit random. I'd like it to remember full thumbnail view in all cases but switch to a pure text listing when you get down to track level, except where it's a multiple artist album in which case I'd liketo see the text listing with the small thumbnail on the left.
For videos, I'd like it to stay in full thumbnail mode all the time, otherwise it only gives you large icons for folders then as soon as you get to a folder that contains actual videos you lose the cover art - it automatically reverts to a text listing.
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This is something I've touched on. I think it remembers certain settings but it seems a bit random...... [rest of msg removed]
I would agree. There are some albums that seem to "remember" this, then others which do not.
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Is there a way to display album thumbnails instead of tracks in the JRemote playlist view (in the JRiver playlist view I can select this under "List Style --> Album Thumbnails")? I use smart playlists to sort my music by resolution and it would be nice to be able to add the complete album to playing now rather than to have to select all the tracks one by one. Thanks for your help.
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More questions related to the above:
1) is it possible to set a default view under each category? the three are thumbnail, list with small thumbnail, and list.
2) how can I set the display features of each of these views?
3) within each view I can select to view "A-Z" or just a list. The former adds letters within the list and sorts by first letter, no matter how I've set up my sort function in Gizmo; the latter displays exactly as I've set it up in Gizmo (sort by last name, ignores "the, a, etc"
3a) NOTE: in thumbnail view I cannot select between these (A-Z / list) and that's part of why I'm having trouble with the alphabet seek function, I assume.
I have to select these views each time I open up J.Remote. The default is thumbnail. It stays that way until I shut down and reopen either MC or the remote.
4) Can I add to the thumbnail text as I can in Standard View in MC? (I've tried this in Gizmo and the added text does not appear, so I assume no. But this would be a nice feature)
anyone?
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I have a pair of albums with the same name and same genre with different artists but JRemote shows them as one album in album view with all the tracks listed together. MC (v 18.0.213 for MAC OS X) shows them correctly as separate albums in album view. I don't see anything amiss in the tags. What am I missing?
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Is there a way to display album thumbnails instead of tracks in the JRemote playlist view (in the JRiver playlist view I can select this under "List Style --> Album Thumbnails")? I use smart playlists to sort my music by resolution and it would be nice to be able to add the complete album to playing now rather than to have to select all the tracks one by one. Thanks for your help.
While I have not solved the playlist view subject I have found a workaround that does what I need:
1. In MC create a new Album view under Audio that filters by resolution (or any other criteria you need). Give it an appropriate name. For illustration purposes I use "Hi_Res" here
2. Under "Tools" -> "Options" -> "Media Network" -> "Advanced" select "Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo...". In "Items To Show" select "Audio" then click on "Add" and select "Library Item From Standard View". In the pop-up list that comes up select "Audio\Hi_Res" the view just created under 1. above. Click OK to save the changes.
3. In JRemote this view now also shows up under Audio providing direct access to whichever Albums the view defined under 1. filters for
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I have a pair of albums with the same name and same genre with different artists but JRemote shows them as one album in album view with all the tracks listed together. MC (v 18.0.213 for MAC OS X) shows them correctly as separate albums in album view. I don't see anything amiss in the tags. What am I missing?
I discovered I have a second pair of albums with the same name and this time both MC 18 and JRemote show them as one album with all tracks combined (although JRemote lists the header to the album selection as containing multiple albums). Now I renamed one of the albums with all lowercase and now MC shows them as separate albums while JRemote does not (although JRemote does show the lowercase title in the track listings).
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JRemote uses the Gizmo views, not the views that you see in the normal MC front-end. Go to Customise Viewws for Gizmo, add a view, and use Item From Standard View to copy the view from MC that works for you, then see what happens.
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JRemote uses the Gizmo views, not the views that you see in the normal MC front-end. Go to Customise Viewws for Gizmo, add a view, and use Item From Standard View to copy the view from MC that works for you, then see what happens.
Ok, did that and nothing changes. There must be some hidden rule that deals with this - what is it?
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Is this an Album view without a preceding Artist level? If so, you might have to alter the Album level to make it an expression based on Album & Artist. Probably MC front-end sorts this out on its own.
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Probably using two different cases to distinguish same-named albums is not the right approach. MC is case agnostic in some cases, and not so in others. And DLNA or WebGizmo clients may make their own rules.
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Is this an Album view without a preceding Artist level? If so, you might have to alter the Album level to make it an expression based on Album & Artist. Probably MC front-end sorts this out on its own.
What do you mean by artist level?
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Probably using two different cases to distinguish similar albums is not the right approach. MC is case agnostic in some cases, and not so in others. And DLNA or WebGizmo clients may make their own rules.
Agree, that is not an acceptable solution. Just a temp kludge.
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I don't actually use an Album view, I generally want to browse my albums by artist. So I have an Artist view with an Artist category
first and then drill down into Albums by that Artist. This gets round the problem of having albums of the same name by different artists.
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Under Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for Gizmo..., go to the Audio section, and you'll see Album there. You'll probably want to change the Album listed under Show Categories In This Order.
Change it to, say, the expression:
[Album] - [Album Artist (auto)]
by clicking the Edit button and changing the type to Expression.
Alternatively, you could add a new item to Show Categories In This Order. Add [Album Artist (auto)] as an item below Album.
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That works. Now both albums are shown under the top level album name. Thanks.
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Solving this problem has taught me how to create other custom views that I never could do in iTunes. Such as create a HiResPCM list without having to use the genre category in iTunes for it. I now really appreciate the power of this program. It is everything I wanted iTunes to be but will never be because of Apple's focus on the (mindless?) mass market. I am in awe of what you and the MC programers have done. (I wish the Lynx Studio people would hire you to work on their iOS program for their Hilo A/D D/A as they appear to be struggling to get something out). Again, what a delight to use this program!
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Short version:
Can JRemote display chapter names for videos? If not can that feature be added?
Long version:
I am experimenting with ways to achieve gapless playback to DLNA renderers that don't natively support gapless. One suggestion was to mux the audio files (FLAC in my case) into a video container (MKV) using AudioMuxer. This works nicely, and AudioMuxer will even imbed the name of the song as a chapter title within the MKV.
I did this with one of my gapless albums (Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here"). The playback IS gapless, but it would be nice if JRemote would display the chapter (i.e. song) titles as it goes through the songs.
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This may have been covered, but I couldn't find it specifically. Will JRemote work with MC19? I saw there was thought of creating a new version of JRemote for MC19. But I didn't see anything definitive. I don't want to upgrade to MC19 till I know JRemote will work with it. JRemote is critical to my music listening experience. Best $10 I ever spent!
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I'm using JRemote fine with MC19.
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to determine why JRemote takes a really long period of time to reboot after I exit out of the app on either my iPhone 4S or ipad mini? For example, I will skip so e tracks or adjust the volume then let the phone/ipad "rest" or the display turns off. When I open the app back up again sometime it does not find the server for a few minutes while other times its nearly instant?
I'm using MC18
Thanks.
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A suggestion: Can you add a way to toggle artist/album views within certain audio folders like genre? For example, when opening genre-->classical I get artist view by default. I could change that default or create another genre folder in audio with album view. Better would be to offer a choice within genre to view artists or albums. Similarly, I have just added a record label field and created two top level folders in audio with one having an artist view and the other an album view. This is too many folders.
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I have asked before and gotten no answer, but I need to get the A-Z selection in artist view to work. I have over 1,000 different artists and it's a pain to have to scroll. Right now these letters jump to artist first names, not the last names with which they are alphabetized.
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Hello!
I have been waiting a very long time for this feature This is the latest version of MC19. Please post bugs here. Please start a new thread for anything requiring discussion. Non-bug posts will be deleted.
Download: http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter190036.exe
19.0.35 (9/3/2013)
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11. SDK: Added MCWS/v1/Playlist/AddFile to add a single file to a playlist.
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When will this feature be implemented in JRemote?
Usecase: A new iPad/iPhone gesture would be great--> hold on a track with one finger in main and playing now screen that pops up a menue to select the target playlist!
Regards Erwin
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*bump* - i sent an email too and got no reply. does the jremote team monitor this board?
Short version:
Can JRemote display chapter names for videos? If not can that feature be added?
Long version:
I am experimenting with ways to achieve gapless playback to DLNA renderers that don't natively support gapless. One suggestion was to mux the audio files (FLAC in my case) into a video container (MKV) using AudioMuxer. This works nicely, and AudioMuxer will even imbed the name of the song as a chapter title within the MKV.
I did this with one of my gapless albums (Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here"). The playback IS gapless, but it would be nice if JRemote would display the chapter (i.e. song) titles as it goes through the songs.
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Owner/Author of JRemote last stopped by (by their posting) August 12th - Post #338.
They may be reading/monitoring the thread.....(hopefully)
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Split -- Not all songs seen in an album (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=83485.0)
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Wish the width of the Zone selection column can be enlarged. For some Zone with a long name, the width is not enough to show. Hope this could be fixed in the next build.
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I just rcvd a HRT microstreamer miniDAC (plays up to 24/96) and now with the recent firmware it can connect to an iPad by use the camera connection kit without needing additional power!
Sat at home in armchair, HD600s on streaming content through ipad and jremote using this thing - sounds amazing.
Question - what is the maximum resolution that JRemote can stream from my PC to the iPad? I have a variety of Hi-Res files up to 24/96 and 24/192. I know lespaul recently added the ability to play FLAC natively without conversion, but what's the maximum resolution?
If JRemote can cope with the hi res files - is there particular settings I need?
Any help is appreciated.
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I just rcvd a HRT microstreamer miniDAC (plays up to 24/96) and now with the recent firmware it can connect to an iPad by use the camera connection kit without needing additional power!
Sat at home in armchair, HD600s on streaming content through ipad and jremote using this thing - sounds amazing.
Question - what is the maximum resolution that JRemote can stream from my PC to the iPad? I have a variety of Hi-Res files up to 24/96 and 24/192. I know lespaul recently added the ability to play FLAC natively without conversion, but what's the maximum resolution?
If JRemote can cope with the hi res files - is there particular settings I need?
Any help is appreciated.
I think I tested with my Zodiac Gold and was seeing a max of 96K for anything.
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The current version will play 96Khz files, but in 16 bit resolution.
The new version will play with the correct 24 bit resolution, and gapless of course.
The new version was submitted a few days ago, so may be in the store this weekend.
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Hello!
I have been waiting a very long time for this feature
When will this feature be implemented in JRemote?
Usecase: A new iPad/iPhone gesture would be great--> hold on a track with one finger in main and playing now screen that pops up a menue to select the target playlist!
Just saw this, will be implemented in an upcoming version.
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Can JRemote display chapter names for videos? If not can that feature be added?
I don`t think that it`s possible to access the chapters of a video. I will investigate it though.
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Final change list for new version:
- New iPhone navigation. Navigation is now located in a slide-in menu. Zone selection can also be performed from this menu.
- New iPhone mini player. A bar at the bottom will show what`s currently playing with controls for play/pause and next track.
- New iPhone Thumbnail view. Similar to iPad version.
- New zone selection view. Includes options to reload and link zones.
- Swipe to delete playlists from load/save playlist dialog.
- Search now include two modes, "grouped" and "flat". The "flat option" is the old search method where all files are listed without being grouped into albums etc.
- Gapless playback for all formats when streaming
- Streaming now plays 96khz 24 bit files without downsampling.
- New progressbar will show how much of a file is downloaded when streaming
Smaller changes:
- Search button on iPad is now always visible in the left menu
- Fonts a now generally in normal weight, less bold.
- Some layout changes in Now Playing window
I know that there are still some changes that is much requested including:
- Access to the playlist in the Now Playing view on iPad
- Keyboard in the theater view remote
As well as smaller issues regarding sorting and view modes.
I will work on these issues in the next release.
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Great to heard from you, Lespaul. Can you add Wol over wan in that to-do list? :)
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I don`t think that it`s possible to access the chapters of a video. I will investigate it though.
OK thanks for the reply.
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I know that there are still some changes that is much requested....
I will work on these issues in the next release.
Please don't forget to bring back a Stop button (to release the renderer and the file), and automatically switch zone on the device when the zone changes on server (due to a Zone Switch rule) - otherwise you can't control what you've just selected to play!
Many thanks for the update - hope it arrives into the store soon!
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Great work thank you! Just two things
- on search within views nothing happens (although the search "area" appears); however on the root audio view it works fine without filters. Is this a probleme with my views or is this normal at this stage in development?
I know that there are still some changes that is much requested including:
- Access to the playlist in the Now Playing view on iPad
This works fine for me?! I just turn the ipad from portrait to landscape and get the playlist on the left panel and cover or metadata in the right
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This works fine for me?! I just turn the ipad from portrait to landscape and get the playlist on the left panel and cover or metadata in the right
That's the issue, it doesn't work in portrait! There's no facility to switch between cover art and playlist so it limits the usefulness of Playing Now if you use your iPad in portrait.
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I think I tested with my Zodiac Gold and was seeing a max of 96K for anything.
Hmmmm - are there any special settings I need to set up on the PC server side?
(I obviously have set the appropriate slider in JRemote to NOT have it transcode)
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The current version will play 96Khz files, but in 16 bit resolution.
The new version will play with the correct 24 bit resolution, and gapless of course.
The new version was submitted a few days ago, so may be in the store this weekend.
FANTASTIC!!!!!
As always, thanks for all your continued work on this app!
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I can't get JRemote to work on my iPhone, and it's not that I have input the wrong access key. It says: ERROR: Access key was verified, but computer connection failed. Make sure your computer is running and connected to a network." I have made sure of all of these things; still get this error message no matter what. I even re-downloaded JRemote. I'm using version 18.0.218 of JRiver media player.
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try connecting with your IP address instead of the code.
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Love the new version in terms of the navigation which is much less confusing then previously. However I do have a small disaster on my hands with it. When I want it to play directly to an iDevice (ie: my iPhone 5), there is a gap 10 seconds before the end of each track regardless of whether it is a gapless album or not. This makes the remote unusable as a listening device at the moment. I use MC 19-38. I tried different settings to no avail.
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Sorry, but no go. Get different error right away now: Could not connect to your computer. Make sure your computer is running and connected to a network.
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Code did not work for me with my iphone 5, IP address did. Code worked for the ipad.
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When in the search (or any long list), the accelerated search bars (the a to z on the right hand side that help navigate large lists) doesn't work for all letters : if I tap "T", the "T" flashes up and fades in the centre of the screen, letting me know jremote knows what I pressed, but it moves me back to the top of the list instead.
Some letters work, others don't...
(This wasn't working on the previous release either.)
Ipad1, jremote v2.4 (that came out this weekend)
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When in the search (or any long list), the accelerated search bars (the a to z on the right hand side that help navigate large lists) doesn't work for all letters : if I tap "T", the "T" flashes up and fades in the centre of the screen, letting me know jremote knows what I pressed, but it moves me back to the top of the list instead.
Some letters work, others don't...
(This wasn't working on the previous release either.)
Ipad1, jremote v2.4 (that came out this weekend)
Gapless works! Excellent.
But I'm having a similar problem with the a-z search bar. See above. The letters send me to first names, even though I've alphabetized by last names. Very frustrating.
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Hi, I'm wondering if the Podcasts could be organized with a hierarchy like the rest of the files, e.g. to have podcasts be organized by "artists" or in this case authors, and then have what they're specifically publishing be listed as albums?
Also could the LP's be organized by the Year tag instead of my the name of the albums?
Thanks for the consideration!
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Can an ipad and an iphone use the same Jr River server.
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Can an ipad and an iphone use the same Jr River server.
of course
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This will help with the problem of iOS 7 and older devices:
http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/17/ios-app-store-now-allows-legacy-app-downloads-to-support-older-hardware-and-software/
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I'm not sure that it helps. It just means that people with 1st gen iPads who haven't yet downloaded JRemote will be still able to download the last compatible release of JRemote once the "deed is done". But presumably that old version is locked and there will be no further updates or bug fixes and the developer is not going to support it.
In a way, it makes it more of a nightmare for the developer and users as potentially more people will still be downloading the old unsupported version. But it also means that as the price of used 1st gen iPads drop, more people might be tempted to buy one, it will give cheaper Android devices a run for their money especially considering JRemote is streets ahead of Gizmo. There might be increased revenue for the developer. Existing users might buy multiple ones. Spending silly money on a new iPad just to run JRemote is not going to happen.
I don't know the technical details of the iOS SDK - will there come a time when apps compiled with the old SDK will not run on newer devices? If not, or that time is a long way off, doesn't it make more sense to continue with the old SDK as far as possible?
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Love the new version in terms of the navigation which is much less confusing then previously. However I do have a small disaster on my hands with it. When I want it to play directly to an iDevice (ie: my iPhone 5), there is a gap 10 seconds before the end of each track regardless of whether it is a gapless album or not. This makes the remote unusable as a listening device at the moment. I use MC 19-38. I tried different settings to no avail.
I am having the same issue, the gap before end of song is pretty annoying. I test while on wifi as well and there was no difference. Mi am running it against 18.0.212 iPhone 6.1.4
Thanks,
Pete
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I'm glad someone else piped in, I was beginning to think I was the only one with this gap problem. Basically, if we use "play all", every playlist or album is treated as gapless. I suppose it's the easiest implementation in terms of coding this. But now, because if this gap, the only way I can listen to an album is by using "play" and pressing the "next" button after each track. Please let us know if you can reproduce.
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Claude and chirpp,
Are you saying that there is a 10 second pause after one song ends and the next song starts?
What is the format of the tracks you are streaming, and are you using transcoding?
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Hi Lespaul, and thank for the reply!
What happens to me is that there is a small gap exactly at the -10s mark at the end of a track. The gap can be anywhere from a 10th of a second to very close to a full second; this is regardless of whether or not the track is gapless. In a gapless album, there will be an additional "tick" at the start of the next track (this I can live with!).
95% of my tracks are FLAC. Some are high definition, most are 16/44.1, and the problem occurs regardless of the compression format. Also, I have tried with all three transcoding choices, and with no transcoding. I have deleted the and reinstalled the app, restarted my computer and router, deleted old DLNA servers and added the generic one (voodoo science, but why not!) all to no avail ...
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Thanks for the updates! I like the new search group function.
I have the latest update and when I switch to a zone with a DLNA device the currently playing track (via push from MC, Whitebear to Squeezeboxes synced by Logitech Media Server) is not showing for other zones than the one I am playing to. It used to with the previous version.
Here is the set up: Play to one MC zone consisting of one Squeezebox (via Whitebear). That Squeezebox is synced using Logitech Media Server to two other Squeezeboxes that are also set up as zones in MC (no link zones in MC). The zone/Squeezebox I am playing to from MC is in JRemote showing the complete playlist I pushed. The two other zones/Squeezeboxes are no longer showing the currently playing (synced with LMS) track in JRemote. JRemote, as MC is doing now and before, used to show the current track and the next track in he playlist. It is like JRemote is no longer pulling the current playlist from those other DLNA devices.
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Claude Lapalme:
Mail me if you would like to try a beta version that may fix your problem.
Seems to me that the skip is caused when the next track starts to download in the background, probably only on older devices?
I have now moved most of this code to a background thread. I think it will solve the problem.
Vagskal:
I am not sure at the moment what may have caused the new behaviour, but i will investigate.
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@:Lespaul
Done!
Funny enough though, it's a brand new iPhone 5. My old one had a power button issue so Apple replaced it last week. Just downloaded ios 7 too. Had the same issue. I'll let you know how it works.
Thanks.
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Claude and chirpp,
Are you saying that there is a 10 second pause after one song ends and the next song starts?
What is the format of the tracks you are streaming, and are you using transcoding?
I will take the response of Claude and say ditto! I tried the same options to no avail.
I am upgrading to iOS 7 and can let you know if that helps.
Update:
I updated to iOS 7. No change . I see the 2.41 update on App Store and i updated the program.
The issue still occurs. About -10 left in the song it blanks out audio, then comes back. Incan start playing an album, and when the first song starts playing slide the song to about -20 left, and it will still fail.
Does that make sense?
Pete
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The numeric volume display is broken (always shows 0%, big number display doesn't appear) when "This device" is active.
The controls (Play, Pause, Stop, Next, Previous) are so small now that they are unusable in a car audio environment (MacMini as a CarPC, JRemote as controller) >:(.
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Fred1, I am planning a dedicated car display for easier access to the most used controls, and swipe to change track.
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Similar issues for me as well with ios7.
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Fred1, I am planning a dedicated car display for easier access to the most used controls, and swipe to change track.
Lespaul,
that's great!!!
Would you consider gestures, too?
(A great example for a car display is the LeechTunes app with its gesture driven interface).
And by the way, it would be great if JRemote could use the songs of the built in iTunes music library, when offline.
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(A great example for a car display is the LeechTunes app with its gesture driven interface).
Yes, I've got that too, I like the swiping for car use! Track 8 is also a gorgeous interface but it has a few basic flaws that mean I can't really use it.
And by the way, it would be great if JRemote could use the songs of the built in iTunes music library, when offline.
I've asked for a similar thing for Gizmo!
I haven't got a car PC but I do have both an iPad and an Android tablet synchd with my music from MC for use in the car. But I haven't yet found an iOS or Android music player that can arrange and sort things like MC. Track 8, for example, has no Genres menu, displays Artist even when sorted by Album Artist (but at least it knows about Album Artist which is more than a lot of music players), cannot create playlists, cannot queue individual songs. The built-in Android music player (from a couple of versions ago, not the latest version) is probably the best for Android but still it's not perfect. The combination of MC's cataloguing and JRemote's UI would be perfect, but obviously requires online access. However, if it was to cache MC's view schemes for us off-line, JRemote would need to build its own indexing etc, which I think is quite a big development for this app, but if it doesn't then I might as well go back to standard music players that only do Album/Artist/Genre...
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Fred1, I am planning a dedicated car display for easier access to the most used controls, and swipe to change track.
Wooooo!!!
:)
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Gapless works! Excellent.
I thought gapless always worked if the zone supported gapless. What scenario do you have where gapless didn't work but does now?
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LesPaul,
On iPhone 5 and iOS7 I am getting a slight pause at the "10 seconds" to go mark. Maybe 2 seconds max. Then it continues to the end of the song.
Just thought I would chime in on that front.
Thanks!
Patrick
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Lespaul gave me a beta that fixes this. I'm sure he'll give it to you when he sees your message.
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I thought gapless always worked if the zone supported gapless. What scenario do you have where gapless didn't work but does now?
Streaming to my ipad.
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Could someone please let me know if these two requests have already been considered. I don't want to repeat something that has already been addressed, but at the same time I don't want to have my earlier post ignored and forgotten.
Lespaul mentioned this in his recent post of changes and future implementation. I'm not sure if this includes what I'm requesting, which is to organize the Podcast section and to be able to sort albums by year instead of title:
As well as smaller issues regarding sorting and view modes.
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The ability to switch volume leveling on and off would be great.
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Hello,
Running iOS 7 with ipad mini and iPhone 4S to control J river 18. Often times when playing music throughout the day and open up the app later to change songs etc, the app can't locate the server and I constantly get the "connection failure" error?
I have a caps music server running hard wired with jriver. The firewall is off and the pc has no virus software and is very bare bones. I also have two different wireless networks.
Why does the connection drop so often, suggestions???
I had same issues prior to iOS 7 too.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Running iOS 7 with ipad mini and iPhone 4S to control J river 18. Often times when playing music throughout the day and open up the app later to change songs etc, the app can't locate the server and I constantly get the "connection failure" error?
I had similar issues (sometimes came back and Playing Now album would be blank, no controls would work) this was with any version after 18.0.206, as 206 had no issue.
Version 19.0.38 is running fine for me with JRemote with either connections or losing controls. Tried .41 and had similar problems/issues, so went back to .38 and all is well.
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I have gone back to 38 as well for the same reasons.
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Thanks guys I will try that version! Here I thought it was more of an app issue versus the MC edition.
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so I switched to MC 19.0.38 as you guys mentioned and so far much better! The app itself works great and the only glitch is some inconsistent cover art flicking on/off during playback. At least the app loads up when asked:)
If you guys find a newer version of mC19 works better, please update this thread!
Thanks.
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19.0.43 was just released so I will be trying it tonight. (maybe not with the OS Crash issues people are posting about)
I had some issues with 19.0.38 yesterday. Not sure if the Currently Playing Thumbnail was gone or not as I had JRemote shutdown on the iPad. Issue: I could not connect with JRemote or RDP after some time - 20-30 minutes. I then mapped a drive to JRiver, only after mapping a drive could I connect with JRemote or RDP to JRiver.
Posted this in JRiver 19: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=83827.0
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I have been having problems streaming videos to my device. I can't play any videos, most of my videos are mp4 and they used to play well in previous versions. The same thing happens with MC18 (212) and MC19 (38). I am using the latest version of jremote, Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Hi all,
I scrolled back a few pages and searched, I hope I'm not duplicating a post here...
When playing an album on my iPad I will get one song only, then a pop-up error of "no sound / BASS_ERROR_UNKNOWN/nhttp://..."
I am using MC for mac (build 218) and JRemote on my iPad.
Any help is appreciated.
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I have been enjoying using JRemote this weekend - almost no trips back to the Mac. Only thing so far I can't decipher is no podcasts in the JRemote Podcast view even though I have several in MC - under Podcasts. Is there something extra I need to do so JRemote can see them?
Thanks for patience with a rookie.
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Hi all,
I scrolled back a few pages and searched, I hope I'm not duplicating a post here...
When playing an album on my iPad I will get one song only, then a pop-up error of "no sound / BASS_ERROR_UNKNOWN/nhttp://..."
I am using MC for mac (build 218) and JRemote on my iPad.
Any help is appreciated.
A number of us have been having the exact same issue for a couple of builds.
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The Playing Now playlist can be cleared via long hold on any track, but not when in the actual Playing Now list. Can this be added? It seems counter-intuitive to have to long-hold on some folder group or a track to clear the playlist which is in another part of the screen. It would be nice to allow it from both locations.
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I use the new User feature as a global filter. One of my users is "MP4 Only".
I just tested and confirmed that JRemote respects the currently selected user.
If it were possible to select a user from within JRemote then we could chose "MP4 Only" and see only ios compatible media.
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A number of us have been having the exact same issue for a couple of builds.
I rebooted both Macbook and iPad... and now everything works again. I had tried this numerous times before posting but this last time it seemed to have worked... for about a day now. Fingers crossed that it keeps.
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Possible Bug Report - Playing Now playlist not refreshing
Starting with a clear playlist I queued three music videos using tap-and-hold and selecting Add to Playlist. On going into Playing Now, only two of them showed up. I thought the third had been missed somehow so I went back into browse mode and selected it again. Playing Now then showed it as correctly as third in the list, although the display was showing "Track 1 of 4". Screenshot attached.
I then added another video to the list and when I went back into Playing Now, the third one was now showing twice, in both third and fourth places and the new video that I had selected was not showing. It was saying "Track 1 of 5" although only four were displayed.
After getting to the end of the list, on reaching number 5 the last video I had selected suddenly appeared in the list as soon as it started playing.
I then cleared the list and the text changed to "Track 0 of 0" but all videos remained in the listing.
Therefore the "Track x of y" text is always correct but the actual Playlist listing is not refreshing properly.
I am using the current version of JRemote together with the current version of MC (19.0.45).
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Update for connection issues.
JRiver 19.0.45, JRemote 2.41, iOS7
So far this combination is better, but still some minor issues connecting.
Last night did not have any issues where the Playing Now thumbnail disappears in the 2 hours I played tunes. Kept JRemote running all the time and no issues each time I used JRemote.
This morning I fired up server, no tasks performed on server, no music playing, etc for at least 30 min. Connected with JRemote on first try with an almost immediate connection. Closed and killed the app on iPad and tried to connect again. This time it took 4-5 retries before I finally connected. Closed the app and killed it, then waited 30 mins and had to go through multiple tries before I finally connect.
I will report if any more issues arise.
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Hey all,
sorry for the noob question but i've just started using JRiver & JRemote on my mac.
Is it possible to clear the playlist from within JRemote?
I can click to add albums or tracks no worries, & then pull up the playlist tab menu to see what is lined up, all good.
Can you clear the list from within the remote app or only via the MC software on the mac?
Cheers :)
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Hey all,
sorry for the noob question but i've just started using JRiver & JRemote on my mac.
Is it possible to clear the playlist from within JRemote?
I can click to add albums or tracks no worries, & then pull up the playlist tab menu to see what is lined up, all good.
Can you clear the list from within the remote app or only via the MC software on the mac?
Cheers :)
See my suggestion above, which asks for an additional way to accomplish this.
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See my suggestion above, which asks for an additional way to accomplish this.
Thanks MrC :)
Where's the "clear / edit playlist" button?
Certainly seems like a pretty basic feature that's missing to me.
I have been using Kinsky uPNP to control my Linn DS & this has an edit playlist feature which I use all the time.
Am enjoying using JRiver & remote so far, still a big buggy though (on the mac). But when it's working not bad at all.
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Long hold on a track or grouping.
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There's an Actions button on the Playing Now/Playlist screen and Clear List is in there.
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Update for connection issues.
JRiver 19.0.45, JRemote 2.41, iOS7
So far this combination is better, but still some minor issues connecting.
Last night did not have any issues where the Playing Now thumbnail disappears in the 2 hours I played tunes. Kept JRemote running all the time and no issues each time I used JRemote.
This morning I fired up server, no tasks performed on server, no music playing, etc for at least 30 min. Connected with JRemote on first try with an almost immediate connection. Closed and killed the app on iPad and tried to connect again. This time it took 4-5 retries before I finally connected. Closed the app and killed it, then waited 30 mins and had to go through multiple tries before I finally
Well this morning, connected up right away, but after a few songs, when trying any action, JRemote loses connection with the server. Go through the song and dance of trying to connect and 4+ times later get connected. Later on same thing occurred over and over.
So looks like still some connection issues
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IMPORTANT SUGGESTION:
Hi,
I can see JRemote is getting better and better!!! Now it is part of my automation control apps. I am really happy Lespaul accepted my suggestion of adding link/unlink zones feature!! It is great!!!
Now I have another suggestion:
Add optional buttons(I think 2 is fine) to launch an app or link. You can put an option to display or not these buttons in the settings menu. This way we can launch JRemote from another app and go back to the automation app from JRemote.
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Anyone know the answer to this issue related to JRemote use:
Hi Jim
Is this option built in to JRMC19 - so that one server can control many clients as zones?
2. Play on [Device] -- this plays to any zone or DLNA Renderer, including a copy of MC (if DLNA is enabled under Media Network).
It used to be that you could see all the client zones on the server machine...currently I only see the option to enable it on the client ...to see the server zones.
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Do you plan to add a way to download a playlist (for offline use) in JRemote ?
I've seen other iphone apps allowing DLNA files download but only one by one and very far from JRemote quality.
And other methods, like webdav or http transfers are not efficient to transfer tons of playlists (non jailbreaked phones versions)
Thanks in advance and thanks for your amazing piece of software!
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Well this morning, connected up right away, but after a few songs, when trying any action, JRemote loses connection with the server. Go through the song and dance of trying to connect and 4+ times later get connected. Later on same thing occurred over and over.
So looks like still some connection issues
Update.... Once I connect and keep JRemote as main screen, it runs pretty well. Only a couple times did it drop the connection. But if you put JRemote in background (say using another app) and then come back to JRemote, you see the thumbnail and time played, but thumbnail disappears and the time is not updated, the. It goes to track 0 of 1,then loses connection.
FYI this is NOT a network issue on my end as I can access all other devices on my network while this connection issue continues with JRemote and JRiver.
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Lespaul gave me a beta that fixes this. I'm sure he'll give it to you when he sees your message.
Just found this thread and also have the same problem. I use an iPad 3 and MC19.0.45. Please help!
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Just found this thread and also have the same problem. I use an iPad 3 and MC19.0.45. Please help!
Me too. Got an iPad 3, iOS7.0.2 and MC 19.0.32
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Just for info, I have an ipad 4/iOS7, MC 19.0.45 under win7 - absolutely no problems what so ever. I also have an iphone 4 (not the S) running iOS6 -- also no problems at all (its a hell of a lot slower than my new ipad but I expected that.
There must be a common denominator for the people who are experiencing problems, non? ?
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FWIW I have a 1st gen iPad iOS5.1 with the current version of MC19 and JRemote, and no problems as described. Recently, it doesn't connect first time when opened even when the server is up and running but I just tap on the server and it then connects. I've not had dropout problems or persistent non-connection.
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Hey folks, does this ap require a plugin on the server side as well to communicate? If so, where is that plugin located?
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No, no plug-in. Just enable Tools > Options > Media Network in Media Center.
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I have lost contact with JR River . I recently upgraded to a Samsung 1 tb Eva with Magician set for max performance . Can this be an issue?
The program sees my devices on the network (MC 1945).
Ipad 2 ios7.
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Hi,
I've recently added some flac files to my library which were previously mp3 files (ie albums re-ripped). In jriver I have deleted the mp3 files from the library, however, JRemote is still picking up the old mp3 files and not the new flac files.
I deleted and reinstalled the app but this had no effect.
Any ideas how I can get jremote to see the library files only?
Thanks
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Did you rerun auto-import? restart the server?
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As usual it's an amazing app. I am having only a couple of issues:
1) Server is sleep, Iphone/Ipad on local network, I open JRemote, I hear server wake up because of JRemote's WOL, but after some seconds JRemote gives up and doesn't connect. Sometimes it does connect, most of the times don't. May I suggest increase the waiting time for server to wake up? Or maybe an option in server config to increase time.
2) Gapless works perfect with FLAC files without transcoding, but when transcoding is enabled, and listening to the same album, there is a gap between songs. Tested 64,128 and 320kbps.
3)When playing to "this device" on Ipad's playing now window, the volume always shows 0% regardless of the state of the volume bar. This also happens in the bottom control bar when browsing the library.
4) When streaming I get the info:
Flac: "Streaming FLAC, 44100Hz, Stereo, 16 Bits"
Mp3: "Streaming MP3, 44100Hz, Stereo, 32bit"
Aac: "Streaming Core Audio, 44100hz, Stereo, 32bit"
I don't get the bitrate of the file, which in my opinion is an important value to show.
5) In the left panel of Ipad's interface, I can't scroll to the end of the list inside the audio category.
6) May I suggest sending a WOL to global address as well? I'd love to be able to wake up and connect to my server when I'm on 3G somewhere else.
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Hi Lespaul, and thank for the reply!
What happens to me is that there is a small gap exactly at the -10s mark at the end of a track. The gap can be anywhere from a 10th of a second to very close to a full second; this is regardless of whether or not the track is gapless. In a gapless album, there will be an additional "tick" at the start of the next track (this I can live with!).
95% of my tracks are FLAC. Some are high definition, most are 16/44.1, and the problem occurs regardless of the compression format. Also, I have tried with all three transcoding choices, and with no transcoding. I have deleted the and reinstalled the app, restarted my computer and router, deleted old DLNA servers and added the generic one (voodoo science, but why not!) all to no avail ...
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Problem solved with update to ver. 2.42
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Still not getting anything over 44k out of the ipad1.
I have the camera connection kit connected to the amazing HRT Microstreamer, however, despite JRemote playing the 24/96 file, the output fomr the ipad1's dock is only 44k.
I have been in contact with Kevin Halverson CTO over at HRT, who says this:-
"The configuration of the player (the side running on the iPad) is either not correctly configured or can't overcome the basic limitations of the iPad's native audio interface. I am familiar with JRiver as a media player and have used other remote control applications, but never this client / server version on an iDevice.
Are there 'settings' that you can access on the iPad? This is most definitely a host side issue (iPad in this case) as any USB host / device pairing is strictly under the control of the host side for things like sample rate and bit depth control. The Microstreamer, running as a USB device simply indicates (using its LEDs) what it is presented. No USB device can effect this aspect, it is slaved to the host."
Hoping someone can weigh in and tell me if indeed JRemote with an iPad1 is capable of outputting 24/96 hi rez audio and if so, how?
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Hoping someone can weigh in and tell me if indeed JRemote with an iPad1 is capable of outputting 24/96 hi rez audio and if so, how?
Maybe you should check with Apple to get the specs of that old iPad.
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Maybe you should check with Apple to get the specs of that old iPad.
Meaning?
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Meaning?
"[if] Pad1 is capable of outputting 24/96 hi rez audio and if so, how?"
Who else to tell you about the iPad's specifications?
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The recent stability and interface improvements have been much appreciated!
There are two features I'm hoping get added soon.
1. Smartlist refreshing. I would like to a way to manually refresh smartlists like pulling down a lists or lists and 'rebounding' it. Right now I'm not sure how jremote refreshes them, but it's not often enough for me.
2. On the fly transcoded video playback on my ipad. I have ripped mkv blu rays that I'd like to play back without keeping an extra transcoded copy.
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"[if] Pad1 is capable of outputting 24/96 hi rez audio and if so, how?"
Who else to tell you about the iPad's specifications?
The hardware is more than capable, the iOS was originally crippling the output, but that was solved a few years ago.
A note from a Head-Fi user back in 2011:-
"Using an iPad 1
iOS 4.3.3
iTunes 10.3.1 (55)
Yeah, this is kinda a big deal. Transportable 24-bit playback with a $30 adapter (and likely AC powered USB hub)."
So my question is has anyone else got this working using JRemote, an iPad and a USB DAC and if so how?
As Kevin Halverson (the really helpful CTO of HRT) said, its a setting issue or an app issue (and more than likely a user issue!)...
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Hi there,
Love the updates to JREmote which is my favorite IPad app to date!!
2 issues -
1 - I am unable to listen to radio stations on the IPAD as I get an error (audio streaming error - There was a problem playing the current audio file).
2 - only MP4 Videos will play to the IPAD. I was under the impression that MC19 could transcode to a DLNA device so why not to an IPAD? Take a look at Airvideo which I have to use for watching video. I would prefer to simply use one program both for music and video.
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Dave
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Anyone else notice that JRemote is painfully slow to bring back images on iOS 7?
I uninstalled and reinstalled JRemote. I've reset my iPad 3, nothing helps.
Gizmo is speedy, so it's not my MC box.
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Did you rerun auto-import? restart the server?
Yes I did and it didn't work at that time hence coming to the forum, however, thought I would do full shutdown on computer, and then did it again, and reinstalled the app, and all working now.
Thank you
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Anyone else notice that JRemote is painfully slow to bring back images on iOS 7?
I uninstalled and reinstalled JRemote. I've reset my iPad 3, nothing helps.
Gizmo is speedy, so it's not my MC box.
Never mind it seems to be something to do with the iPad and my wireless network. On LTE the images come up speedy.
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So my question is has anyone else got this working using JRemote, an iPad and a USB DAC and if so how?
As Kevin Halverson (the really helpful CTO of HRT) said, its a setting issue or an app issue (and more than likely a user issue!)...
I will plug in my Ipad(3) tonight and see if I can pass through 24-96.
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Thank you for all the feedback guys.
It seems that some of the lost connection issues are related to iOS7. I am currently checking into this.
I will continue to release small fixes to take care of the bugs. No new features will be added just yet.
For the last three versions I have been logging all crashes from all users. Kind of scary but very helpful.
There is still a lot of crashes related to the streaming engine and iOS7. Seems like this is finally fixed for the next release.
Although I don`t reply to all comments, I read them all and will try to include improvements where possible.
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Here is what I am currently seeing/experiencing with connections. Fire up the Music Server, JRiver starts and then I connect with JRemote. First time connection for JRemote is fine.
Latest version 2.42 acted a little better last night when playing a tune, minimizing JRemote while doing other things on the iPad, coming back to JRemote, connected back up "most" of the time.
When I come back to JRemote and have problems connecting back up (lose Thumbnail, shows song 1 of 0), I try to connect about three or four times. If not connected I kill JRemote, and then start it again, and it connects first time.
So for me it seems to be when it was already connected, put in the background, then bring it back to foreground is when I get connection issues. When connecting a fresh JRemote, app seems to work fine.
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I will plug in my Ipad(3) tonight and see if I can pass through 24-96.
Thanks, appreciate the help.
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I think I am correct in saying that the only way you can see long track names in full is via the tag view. I would like the option of sliding aside the cover art on the now playing screen so that full track names are visible. Hope this makes sense.
Thanks.
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Thanks, appreciate the help.
No dice.
iPad3, iOS7, 24-96 verified in JRemote. No "HD" light on my Naim DAC (which entails 96K or better). I tried 5 albums from HDTracks @ 24-96 and 2 @ 24-192.
It is still not outputting anything over 24-88.2 at best. Anything over that will register on my DAC.
Sorry for the bad news.
Patrick
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any idea why Artist - Album always displays like it does in the attachment and also why it always says Various, Multiple Albums when the tags are exactly correct and all the same for any given album? It does this with every song/album I have. It's always displayed this way actually.
thanks
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any idea why Artist - Album always displays like it does in the attachment and also why it always says Various, Multiple Albums when the tags are exactly correct and all the same for any given album? It does this with every song/album I have. It's always displayed this way actually.
For that Album, view it under a Standard View. Show the file list and select all the files in the album. Open the Tag Action Window, and show fields for:
Album
Artist
Album Artist
Album Artist (auto)
Filename (path)
Paste a screenshot of that Tag Action Window showing those values.
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is this what you mean?
thanks
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No dice.
iPad3, iOS7, 24-96 verified in JRemote. No "HD" light on my Naim DAC (which entails 96K or better). I tried 5 albums from HDTracks @ 24-96 and 2 @ 24-192.
It is still not outputting anything over 24-88.2 at best. Anything over that will register on my DAC.
Sorry for the bad news.
Patrick
Thanks for testing this.
I actually feel better as this now narrows it down to a software and not a hardware issue.
lespaul any idea on this - as I quoted previously, the ipad hardware IS capable of outputting 24/96 hi rez files - see notes from Kevin Halverson from HRT in my previous post.
Also, here's another note over on InnerFidelity.com from 2011 (http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/audiophile-play-ipad)
"The iPad (and iPad 2 obviously) with current iOS and a CCK will pair with many USB DACs, though still not all of them. And the prior sample rate limitation of 48kHz has been removed --- you can easily play 24-bit/96kHz audio, "
Appreciate the time & consideration.
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is this what you mean?
The album looks good.
I'm seeing some random behavior here too. It appears that the Album Artist (auto) value is not being used, or the wrong value is being used. I'm looking at a compilation album in JRemote now, and it is showing the Artist to be the artist from the first track (and not Multiple Artists as I would have expected).
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any idea why Artist - Album always displays like it does in the attachment and also why it always says Various, Multiple Albums when the tags are exactly correct and all the same for any given album? It does this with every song/album I have. It's always displayed this way actually.
thanks
I have the same Various/Multiple Albums problem on the occasional album, when actually it's not. I think I reported it many moons ago, but I haven't been able to get to the bottom of it.
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"The iPad (and iPad 2 obviously) with current iOS and a CCK will pair with many USB DACs, though still not all of them. And the prior sample rate limitation of 48kHz has been removed --- you can easily play 24-bit/96kHz audio, "
Appreciate the time & consideration.
I am not so sure it is a software limitation. The iPad receives 24-96 but cannot pass it along. I still think it is a hardware limitation of the iPad.
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I am not so sure it is a software limitation. The iPad receives 24-96 but cannot pass it along. I still think it is a hardware limitation of the iPad.
No - its definitely software - Did you to take a look at the links I posted? (There are many many more posts on sites such as Head-Fi too)
People have been getting 24/96 out of the ipad since 2011.
Anyone else on here with access to a DAC willing to test this?
(I guess I'll have to post over on Head-Fi and see if they have answers and post back here).
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No - its definitely software - Did you to take a look at the links I posted? (There are many many more posts on sites such as Head-Fi too)
People have been getting 24/96 out of the ipad since 2011.
Anyone else on here with access to a DAC willing to test this?
(I guess I'll have to post over on Head-Fi and see if they have answers and post back here).
It looks like you need the camera kit. Everything you have posted mentions that. I dont have one so cannot test it.
Also it sounds like there is no real consensus on what works and what doesn't according to the links I followed. Still dont think it is a JRemote thing.
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It looks like you need the camera kit. Everything you have posted mentions that. I dont have one so cannot test it.
Also it sounds like there is no real consensus on what works and what doesn't according to the links I followed. Still dont think it is a JRemote thing.
Thanks for the test anyway...
Yeah you do need camera kit and yes people have got 24/96 from the iPad. That is very clear - even Benchmark Audio (they make high-end DACs) confirm it.
Hoping lespaul (or anyone else that has hi rez files, an ipad and cck) can chime in...
(although it does now look like the majority of people left on this thread are less audiophile and more into the streaming of video etc...)
If the ipad couldn't play them, then I dont see the point of jremote streaming full 24/96 files across wifi to the ipad if its going to downsample anyway - may as well just convert and downsample at the PC/Mac and save the bandwidth and processor strain.
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i will buy a camera cable tomorrow and see what's what. Do you not have one?
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Does JRiver have a way to display the programming guide? It would be useful to schedule TV programs without turning on the display.
Is there a way to delete programs from the library after viewing them? I have to delete programs directly from the PC, which is not always convenient.
How can I get the recording date to be displayed on a list of TV shows? When there a multiple choices for a single show it is difficult to select a specific show. I noticed that later episodes seem to be listed earlier but sometime I need more information before I can make a selection.
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i will buy a camera cable tomorrow and see what's what. Do you not have one?
Yes I have one, thats what I'm confused about : the hardware is capable, I've connected using the CCK, I have updated the Microstreamer firmware (to allow it to connect to low power devices without a powered hub) and yet the output from JRemote is still not 24/96?
Initially I was hoping someone would tell me "oh yes you just need to click button X in settings on the PC Server side" for this to work, it seemed that simple an issue...like I said earlier, I'm assuming 'user error' here...
(btw - I have a number of varying resolution files 88khz, 192khz and its the same with them all)
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How do I get JRemote, during a movie, to display a large progress bar? I am hoping that having a larger progress bar will allow a slower scroll back and forward (at the moment it jumps 1-2 minutes or more with each tick forward or backward). When my wife wants to re-hear something it sucks having to scroll back so far to hear that last sentence over again.
Thanks!
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Thank you for all the feedback guys.
It seems that some of the lost connection issues are related to iOS7. I am currently checking into this.
I will continue to release small fixes to take care of the bugs. No new features will be added just yet.
For the last three versions I have been logging all crashes from all users. Kind of scary but very helpful.
There is still a lot of crashes related to the streaming engine and iOS7. Seems like this is finally fixed for the next release.
Although I don`t reply to all comments, I read them all and will try to include improvements where possible.
FWIW, your app is the main reason I've stayed with MC. It's awesome!
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How do I get JRemote, during a movie, to display a large progress bar? I am hoping that having a larger progress bar will allow a slower scroll back and forward (at the moment it jumps 1-2 minutes or more with each tick forward or backward). When my wife wants to re-hear something it sucks having to scroll back so far to hear that last sentence over again.
Thanks!
Use your actual remote for this. Seek back/forward works like a charm.
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Is there an issue with jr remote using windows 8.1 for jrmc 19 and ios7?
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any idea why Artist - Album always displays like it does in the attachment and also why it always says Various, Multiple Albums when the tags are exactly correct and all the same for any given album? It does this with every song/album I have. It's always displayed this way actually.
thanks
The reason for this is that there is currently no comparison of artist and album names when using custom views or playlists.
It was initially done this way for performance reasons, but I now have a faster way to compare values.
I will fix this for the next small release.
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In IOS7 I have set the Background Apps to be "ON" This has helped with trhe connection when coming back to JRemote when it is minimized (background). Most of the time when maximizing JRemote, I will get Track 1 of 0 but then it connects back up. There are still the couple times where it will not connect and I just kill the JRemote app and restart it. Most of the time it reconnects first time, but sometimes it takes 2 or 3 attempts.
One key I noticed on when to Kill the App and reopen - when you go to connect and you get the Network Connection failure box right away (for 2 or 3 times in a row), it is time to kill and reopen.
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My podcasts show up (under Podcasts) and play in Media Center 19 and JRemote sees and plays my audio files - FLAC, mp3 and so on. However, Podcast view in JRemote is empty. Is this a bug or is there something else I need to do? Thanks!
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I'd still like to know how to get the A-Z browser scroll to work properly for me. Because my artists are sorted by last name, but displayed first name first, these letters don't help me to skip through my collection, nice thy spear only to be linked to first letters (in my case, first names). This is frustrating.
Can I alter the settings for this?
Please, I've asked a few times before, but with no responses.
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Firstly, just out of curiosity, why do you prefer last name first?
Are your tags actually labelled as "Last Name, First Name" or are they "First Name Last Name" and you have MC sort them by last name?
I think JRemote goes off of the actual tags, not your sort order in MC.
JRemote can emulate views (i think), but probably not sort order (guessing).
Maybe try actually re-tagging an album artist as "Patton, Mike" and see how JRemote shows that.
If you really prefer this view, why not re-tag all artists this fashion?
-Patrick
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Firstly, just out of curiosity, why do you prefer last name first?
Because it's the way all the world's libraries, bibliographies, and most of the world's stores sort. It's the way I'm used to thinking of where to find an artist. And anyway, I have too many artists with the first name John. That would get ridiculous.
Are your tags actually labelled as "Last Name, First Name" or are they "First Name Last Name" and you have MC sort them by last name?
I think JRemote goes off of the actual tags, not your sort order in MC.
JRemote can emulate views (i think), but probably not sort order (guessing).
Maybe try actually re-tagging an album artist as "Patton, Mike" and see how JRemote shows that.
If you really prefer this view, why not re-tag all artists this fashion?
-Patrick
My artist tags are First Name Last Name. But I sort by "Album Artist," which I have tagged as Last Name First Name. J.Remote appears only to pay attention to the name that appears, not the name by which it is sorted. This is, by the way, unlike in MC itself, where the A-Z bar lets you jump by the artist's sorted name.
This is the only way it makes sense. The A-Z bar is, after all, a tool for accessing sorted music. It should correspond to the sorted name.
And no, I don't want to retag the artist names. 1. I want the to display as First Name Last Name. And 2. I have over 80k songs and don't want to take the time to do that now.
I'm sure adjusting the A-Z bar to make it correspond to the sorting name would be a minor fix. Is it perhaps even possible without a software tweak?
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(I already posted this earlier, but in the MC 18 forum. That is probably the reason that I didn't see a reply)
I set up WebGizmo and also bought JRemote for my iPhone 4S and both work fine for playing music, from MC 18 on my pc, on my iPhone.
But should it also be possible to play video that is not in MPEG-4 format with WebGizmo and/or JRemote ? I looked in the Media Network settings in MC 18 and saw several options for Video Conversion but not to MPEG-4. Am I missing something or is it not possible at all ? If not possible, will it maybe be so in future updates ?
Oh... and meanwhile I have another problem. When I try to play an album, when a track is finished often it doesn't go to the next track. I see "Audio Streaming Error". But when I push the "Next" button it does play. I am very close to my router and with other apps relying on wifi I don't have problems.
What can I do to solve this ?
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Fred1, I am planning a dedicated car display for easier access to the most used controls, and swipe to change track.
+10000
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The Playing Now playlist can be cleared via long hold on any track, but not when in the actual Playing Now list. Can this be added? It seems counter-intuitive to have to long-hold on some folder group or a track to clear the playlist which is in another part of the screen. It would be nice to allow it from both locations.
+1
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My artist tags are First Name Last Name. But I sort by "Album Artist," which I have tagged as Last Name First Name. J.Remote appears only to pay attention to the name that appears, not the name by which it is sorted. This is, by the way, unlike in MC itself, where the A-Z bar lets you jump by the artist's sorted name. ...
My tags are set up just like yours too and my A-Z bar in JRemote is sorted by Album Artist where it sounds like your is not? Take a look at your WebGizmo settings, you might need to make some changes to get you set up the way you want.
go to Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Customize Views for Gizmo.../Audio/Artist
From there you can change how this view is sorted. Where it says "Show Categories In This order" my first sort field is "Album Artist (auto)" then "Year - Album". Is yours different?
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Regarding clearing the "playing now" playlist from the "now playing" window. You can clear it from the "action" menu.
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A few comments about sorting:
There is no way to tell how a list is sorted, since that information is not provided by the webservice.
When you get the list from MC, it`s already sorted, but indexing is not possible since we don`t know the sort column and order.
This is why all lists in JRemote are sorted by name. I could provide other sort options in the app, but it would be much better if this was provided by MC.
BTW, when you toggle the two sort modes in the app, you are switching between the custom name sorting and the sorting provided by MC.
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It would be nice to have a FAQ page and also a list of keyboard shortcuts.
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Can JRemote show metadata other than basics like artist/album? I like to put the version information of a song into the Comment field (for example 12" Disco Mix or Mono 45 Version) rather than into the song title. I'd like to see the Comment field in JRemote.
ETA: Never mind I found where all the Metadata is :-)
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Has nobody an answer on my question(s) on the previous page, particularly this part:
"Oh... and meanwhile I have another problem. When I try to play an album, when a track is finished often it doesn't go to the next track. I see "Audio Streaming Error". But when I push the "Next" button it does play. I am very close to my router and with other apps relying on wifi I don't have problems.
What can I do to solve this ?".
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My tags are set up just like yours too and my A-Z bar in JRemote is sorted by Album Artist where it sounds like your is not? Take a look at your WebGizmo settings, you might need to make some changes to get you set up the way you want.
go to Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Customize Views for Gizmo.../Audio/Artist
From there you can change how this view is sorted. Where it says "Show Categories In This order" my first sort field is "Album Artist (auto)" then "Year - Album". Is yours different?
Yes, because if I sort it only with Album Artist (auto) then I get a list of artists with last name listed first. That, of course, would work perfectly and solve all my problems.
But I'm anal.
I want them to be sorted by last name but displayed first name last name. In order to do this without getting all the artists who appear on compilations also thrown in I use the following expression:
If(IsEqual([Album Artist (auto)], /(Multiple Artists/)), /(Multiple Artists/), [Artist])
Are you able to see First Name Last Name displayed, but sorted by last name? If so, what happens to all the artists in multiple artist compilations?
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Are you planning to release an Android Version of JRemote?
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i will buy a camera cable tomorrow and see what's what. Do you not have one?
OK bought a camera kit and then went to 5 stores to try to find an "A-to-A" USB cable. I cannot find one anywhere.
In my talks with everyone at said stores, they don't think an "A-to-A" cable will work. Something about hosts and whatnot.
I can only find this cable online and not going to buy one just to test this setup. If you want to mail me one I would be more than happy to try.
Is this how you are connecting? With an A-to-A?
Thanks,
Patrick
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Hi. Just recently purchased JR and JRemote and have the latest versions installed. I have an iPad 3, iPhone5 and JR running on a Win7 Pro box. Had been using iTunes for a while but now I am true JR believer!
One issue I have with displaying artists in JRemote- I have close to 200 albums with multiple artists. In JR, I've had to edit the Artists column to show 'Artist' and not 'Album Artist (auto)' to see all the artist in my library. In JRemote, it's the way it was before in JR - I have a '(Multiple Artists)' at the very top of all my artists that breaks out to show all the albums I have with multiple artists. But I want to see all the artists separately in the Artist listing. So if I have a track with Bill Haley & The Comets on an album, that artist doesn't show up in my artist list. Any way to make this happen?
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MC has 4 different sets of independant views to configure and they're used for different purposes:
1. Standard View (the desktop front-end)
2. Theater View (the 10' interface)
3. DLNA (for DLNA/UPnP devices)
4. Web Services (for remote control applications like Gizmo, Web Gizmo and JRemote)
Therefore if you've customised views in Standard View the way you want them, you need to make the same changes to Web Services in Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo. If you have indeed customised Standard View views then you can copy them into Gizmo using that facility (and delete the default ones), or if you've simply edited the display fields in Standard View then you'll hgave to set up your Gizmo views manually. Basically, probably all you need to do is find the relevant category in Gizmo Views and change the Album Artist to Artist as desired.
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csimon,
Thanks for describing this. I just added it to the wiki here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Views
Jim
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Thank you very much - this worked. Now in JRemote all the artists show up sorted alphabetically. I don't think I EVER would have found this out on my own - these tweaks are hard to find/discover. But glad they're there!
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Any plans to integrate AIFF files?
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Hi, I've read the original thread and this thread from start to finish but couldn't find an exact answer... sorry!
I use the panes view (genre, artist, album) in MC19 which is ideal for searching my audio library. Is it possible to implement this exact view in JRemote (iPad version)?
For clarity: I would like to see all three panes and library detail on the main screen, and have the files listed in the segment below. If this is not possible, what are my options?
Thanks in advance,
Richard
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Hi, I've read the original thread and this thread from start to finish but couldn't find an exact answer... sorry!
I use the panes view (genre, artist, album) in MC19 which is ideal for searching my audio library. Is it possible to implement this exact view in JRemote (iPad version)?
For clarity: I would like to see all three panes and library detail on the main screen, and have the files listed in the segment below. If this is not possible, what are my options?
Thanks in advance,
Richard
Splashtop?
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I have not read each and every item in this series, but I do have a serious problem.
First off, JRemote is a very very good product.
Buttttt - when playing video on iphone 5 with IOS7 the screen will NOT rotate to Landscape.
What am I doing wrong.
My other videos will rotate on the phone, but not JRemote.
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Splashtop?
Is that my only option? Will none of the remotes allow a panes view like in mc19?
I do not have an iPad yet so cannot test how useable splash top would be in browsing my audio files. I have circa 30,000 tracks so the scrolling of artists is my main concern. I'm assuming a remote would be better but I'm very particular with how I want the files displayed...
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Is that my only option? Will none of the remotes allow a panes view like in mc19?
JRemote, and other remotes, are bound by MC's remote-access protocol which only exposes a Category-style view, which is what you configure in the Gizmo/WebGizmo settings.
I'm sure it would be possible to develop a Panes view in JRemote, but really this is more like a handheld MC client should behave rather than a remote control, which is what JRemote is. Therefore the scope fo rthis sort of development should probably lie with the MC team. They are currently working on porting desktop MC to Linux, after implementing a Mac version, and there have been many, many calls for proper separation of the MC back-end and front-end so you could run an MC server on a PC or a NAS somewhere and then operate it from a client front-end on any other device. Whether or not that will happen is anyone's guess but I think the Panes view is very much part of the MC desktop front-end and belongs on a future MC client rather then a remote control, as it's certainly moving a lot of configuration and functionality onto the remote control rather than the central MC program. But I don't know, perhaps LesPaul may think differently, I don't want to put words into the developer's mouth!
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Thank you for the reply csimon.
That's very disappointing but appreciate the MC team are busy with other projects. It would be a very welcome addition for many users I'm sure!!
My only option seems to a remote-desktop app so hopefully that will work ok...
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BTW I suppose you could have a Windows 8 tablet and install MC on it, so that you get the functionality of the full MC front-end on a tablet, however I'm not sure how easy it would be to manipulate a standard Windows interface via touch.
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Hello Lespaul,
When will it be possible to add single and multiple file to existing playlists from main and playing now view? The Media Center webservice is allready supporting this feature.
Thanks
Erwin
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Thank you for the reply csimon.
That's very disappointing but appreciate the MC team are busy with other projects. It would be a very welcome addition for many users I'm sure!!
My only option seems to a remote-desktop app so hopefully that will work ok...
Splashtop works well for this. You simply open MC and use it as you would on your desktop. Easy.
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Hi JRemote,
I have been a consistent user of MC and JRemote for a while now. First up, thanks for all the hard work, you have developed a great product.
I have one issue that I can't seem to resolve no matter what I do:
JRemote doesn't seem to consistently display the Channel/Sampling Rate/Bit Rate values.
Sometimes the remote displays it correctly, sometimes it displays some of the values as 0. It seems to display the leftmost values as a priority and simply drops the last one, two or three of the values in a random fashion. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to when some of the values are dropped.
To be honest it gets a bit annoying, and otherwise the app is amazing. Can we either: (i) try and resolve the issue; or (ii) add a setting choice that allows the user to either hide or show the info in playing now?
All the best,
Poodle.
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Hello Les Paul
Earlier I wrote "I have not read each and every item in this series, but I do have a serious problem.
First off, JRemote is a very very good product.
Buttttt - when playing video on iphone 5 with IOS7 the screen will NOT rotate to Landscape.
What am I doing wrong.
My other videos will rotate on the phone, but not JRemote."
No response. Is the problem with landscape mode for video on iphone 5 ios7 an apple problem or jremote issue?
You have an excellent product.
I would like to get this resolved.
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I think ios7 handles rotation slightly different. I have seen several apps that have not been fully updated for ios7that don't rotate to landscape correctly in ios7 on an iPhone.
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It will be interesting to see what Les Paul has to say
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OK bought a camera kit and then went to 5 stores to try to find an "A-to-A" USB cable. I cannot find one anywhere.
In my talks with everyone at said stores, they don't think an "A-to-A" cable will work. Something about hosts and whatnot.
I can only find this cable online and not going to buy one just to test this setup. If you want to mail me one I would be more than happy to try.
Is this how you are connecting? With an A-to-A?
Thanks,
Patrick
Microstreamer takes a mini usb connection. It actually comes with the correct cable : normal USB to connect to your device (pc or CCK) and then mini usb to connect to the dac.
I think you are showing as having a NAIM dac correct? (If not, do you have a dac that will display input resolution?)
Do you have a USB cable that would connect your iPad through the CCK as the source to the dac and then play a hi rez file with JRemote on the ipad and see what your dac reports as the input resolution?
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I'm using JRemote on my iPhone. I bought PFConfig and installed it on my PC. I have configured MC Server as per your instructions (I hope) and still - I get connection failures every time I try to connect with my iPHone when I'm linked by 4G - NOT wifi.
The exact message is: " Connection failure - Could not connect to server, make sure it's available"
Also when I'm on the JRemote screen called "Add server details" - I enter my access key along with my PC's login credentials and I get this failure message when I tap "Add and connect" - "Access key was verified, but computer connection failed. Make sure your computer is running and connect to a network."
I CAN connect using wifi - no problem.
Advise please?
Thanx ... Dan
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Are you using your own wi-fi, rather than a hotspot or whatever? In which case I would suggest that your network is not visible from outside your router - I'm not an expert but 4G would be an external connection wouldn't it? I would think you need to open up a port or something, perhaps someone else can advise what to do.
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Yes - I have my own wireless router. My iPhone connects to the internet via 4G. There's a setting somewhere, I'm sure, that I haven't toggled correctly either in JRemote or in JR Media Server. I need someone to chime in out there who knows how to manage this stuff.
Thanx .... Dan
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I would try turning off 4G and see if I could get to it with a slower phone connection.
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I have no control of whether my iPhone uses 3G or 4G - it just connects to what ever is available.
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You should be able to do that in settings............... I know I can with my iPhone.
Good luck.
I use NO-IP to stablize the IP address and opened a port and all is well.
Can play any of thousands of my songs from any where any time.
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I'm using JRemote on my iPhone. I bought PFConfig and installed it on my PC. I have configured MC Server as per your instructions (I hope) and still - I get connection failures every time I try to connect with my iPHone when I'm linked by 4G - NOT wifi.
The exact message is: " Connection failure - Could not connect to server, make sure it's available"
Also when I'm on the JRemote screen called "Add server details" - I enter my access key along with my PC's login credentials and I get this failure message when I tap "Add and connect" - "Access key was verified, but computer connection failed. Make sure your computer is running and connect to a network."
I CAN connect using wifi - no problem.
Advise please?
Thanx ... Dan
Bought PFConfig?
Have you actually confirmed that the port is forwarded properly on your router? Sounds pretty much like it isn't.
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Yes - bought PFConfig. Tried to config the ports manually but I just ain't that techie. I found the problem. I had not completed the PFConfig setup routine (exactly as you mentioned). Once I ran through the PFConfig setup routine completely, everything started working perfectly! It's so cool to be driving around town and having access to my 70,000 tunes! This is going to be a great advantage for my rock band rehearsals! All that music at our fingertips now. Yikes - I love technology.
Thank you all who offered up help with this endeavor.
It all works!
Rock on!
Thanx. ... Dan
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Ever since MC changed to allow excepting foreign language articles in sorting, some JRemote problems have arisen.
For example, if I tap on 'D' to go to artists beginning with D, it will instead take met to an artist in 'A' because their name is Die Artists (using the plural nominative definite article in German: 'die').
There is now no real way yo navigate to the real artists beginning with 'D'. I suspect the same for other tags on media with the letter 'L' for French articles too, etc.
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Ever since MC changed to allow excepting foreign language articles in sorting, some JRemote problems have arisen.
For example, if I tap on 'D' to go to artists beginning with D, it will instead take met to an artist in 'A' because their name is Die Artists (using the plural nominative definite article in German: 'die').
There is now no real way yo navigate to the real artists beginning with 'D'. I suspect the same for other tags on media with the letter 'L' for French articles too, etc.
This is related to my issue with having artists sorted by last name, but displayed with first name. I can't use the A-Z bar at all, which is really annoying. Some feature to allow for more flexibility in how this bar is implemented would be fantastic.
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Hmmmm??? Not sure what version of JRemote you're using but when I tap on "D" my results show nothing but Artists, Albums, Song Titles etc that have "D" in the phrase. When I get more precise like typing in "Devil" I get everything in my music library that has the word "devil" in it.
I don't see the problem?
Dan
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I cannot find in JRemote settings how to select the connected BT device for audio output. Normally, any app should recognize the BT connection automatically ... leastwise offer the choice ... not JRemote(??)
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The JRemote app, at least the one on my iPhone, came ready for BT play. Never had to toggle any switches to turn it on. I jump in my truck and it starts playing my tunes. When I set it up I simply passed it my MC Access Key, selected "This Device" at the bottom of the Settings screen, then browsed over to a playlist, tapped a tune and it just started playing.
Are you using the JRemote iPhone app that is the paid version for $9.99?
Dan
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I cannot find in JRemote settings how to select the connected BT device for audio output. Normally, any app should recognize the BT connection automatically ... leastwise offer the choice ... not JRemote(??)
I've never done this but I would have thought it's automatic. The setting you need in JRemote is probably "This Device", and it's the iPad itself that then routes music playing on it to BT. But I don't know!
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I've been noticing that when I create a new playlist on MC and then look for it on JRemote, it's never there. I have to remove the JRemote connection and then re-add it in order to get the new playlist to show up. Is there some sort of refresh feature that I'm missing here?
Thanx. .. Dan
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I cannot find in JRemote settings how to select the connected BT device for audio output. Normally, any app should recognize the BT connection automatically ... leastwise offer the choice ... not JRemote(??)
Works automatically here.
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Hmmmm??? Not sure what version of JRemote you're using but when I tap on "D" my results show nothing but Artists, Albums, Song Titles etc that have "D" in the phrase. When I get more precise like typing in "Devil" I get everything in my music library that has the word "devil" in it.
I don't see the problem?
Dan
Do ou have any German media files that start with Der, Die or Das?
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Ah - found the solution - right in front of me! Thanx!
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Works automatically here.
So ... if my iPhone4 settings states that my headphone are connected, and if JRemote ($10) is still playing through the iP4 speakers, what's the next thing to try? I'll play with rebooting and starting & stopping the pertinent apps today. Stay tuned ...
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There is a toggle switch in JRemote. On the Settings page, at the very bottom of the screen you should see a Blue right arrow - tap it and you should then see "This Device" and "Player" - tap This Device to select your iPhone as the output device.
Thanx. ... Dan
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So ... if my iPhone4 settings states that my headphone are connected, and if JRemote ($10) is still playing through the iP4 speakers, what's the next thing to try? I'll play with rebooting and starting & stopping the pertinent apps today. Stay tuned ...
Bluetooth will not work if something is plugged into the headphone jack.
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There is a toggle switch in JRemote. On the Settings page, at the very bottom of the screen you should see a Blue right arrow - tap it and you should then see "This Device" and "Player" - tap This Device to select your iPhone as the output device ...
Thanks for replying ... bit as I already stated "... and if JRemote ($10) is still playing through the iP4 speakers ..."
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Bluetooth will not work if something is plugged into the headphone jack.
Nothing was plugged into the headphone jack ...
EDIT: For some reason it is working like it should today ... go figure! ::)
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Hi All, I love JRemote it works great. I have a Samsung telly in the lounge and I use JRemote to display films and play tunes on the TV. This works well but when I try to display images they appear on the iPad itself. I can't ever find a way to display them on the telly.
Anyone else see this behavior?
Ross
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Hi All, I love JRemote it works great. I have a Samsung telly in the lounge and I use JRemote to display films and play tunes. This works well but when I try to display images they appear on the iPad itself. I can't ever find a way to display them on the telly.
Anyone else see this behavior?
Ross
This will only work if your PC is connected to the TV or if the TV is a DLNA renderer. In both cases, you select the output device (the Zone) in JRemote. "This device" will display the images on the iPad. You need to change the zone to display on the TV.
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Yes this is how I play movies and music to the TV. If I set the TV to be the device I play to I can play films on it and music but not images.
Ross
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Are you sending to the TV via DLNA?
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Are you sending to the TV via DLNA?
Yes
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I see what you mean! I've never used it for images before and I've just tried it with my LG TV which is a DMR. Even with this selected as the output device, images are displayed on the iPad and not the TV.
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I see what you mean! I've never used it for images before and I've just tried it with my LG TV which is a DMR. Even with this selected as the output device, images are displayed on the iPad and not the TV.
Glad it's not just me...
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Hi LesPaul, Can you test this for us? The images play on the TV if I use MC to control it.
Ross
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After I upgraded to MC19 today jremote will no longer connect. Everything was working great the past 6 months or so with MC18 and JRemote but after i upgraded to MC19 today (installed Mc19, deleted MC18) JRemote will not connect. Anyone have a solution for this?
Update: Got it working :)
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I just purchased JRiver Media Center for Mac and JRemote for my iPad and can't get JRemote to connect. I get the following error message on the iPad: "Access Key appears to be invalid. Please try again." I setup Media Network with authentication to match my Mac Mini login and password. How do I get JRemote to connect?
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I cannot get jremote to connect to my server using the install key. I keep getting the same error about the key being invalid. However, I am able to connect using the IP address. I am concerned that this may indicated some issue with the communication between jremote and the server. I am also having an issue with views. When I add a new view in MC and then add it to Gizmo it is not showing up in jremote.
Is there some way to regenerate the install key or should I not worry about that?
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***Feature Request***
Make the MC EQ plugins controllable from JRemote, please. It is cumbersome using my laptop to remotely control them. An iPad would be perfect for this.
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JRemote DOES NOT output Hi Rez audio.
And now I'm not so sure it is truly playing the uncompressed file at these higher resolutions either.
Yes, it correctly identifies the playing file with those bitrates, but it certainly doesn't output the file via the CCK to a DAC at anything other than 16/44.1k
I've been trying to get the hi rez output on an iPad1 for a while (PCStockton has been helping trying to get this working too but on a newer iPad).
I just got hold of an iPad3 on ios7 - same result.
There's a lot of proof that the hardware is capable - see below - but it seems JRemote is just not currently capable of playing these Hi Rez files without downsampling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Modabpck0Q&feature=colike&noredirect=1
(Happy for someone to prove user error however!)
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Hello,
My first post here.
MC seems to sort multiple albums by one artist according to date when displaying them. That is rather useful. Could JRemote do the same?
Greetings from Brussels
Robert
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JRemote uses the same views as Gizmo so you will need to go into Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Configure Views for Gizmo to define how you want to sort. I would suggest that on the Album category you edit the sort order to be Date (oldest first). (highliught Album, press Edit and go to the Sorting field.
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I noticed a difference in font size on iPad an iPad mini of the tracktitles between trackartist = albumartist and trackartist ≠ albumartist. I prefer the font size of the last better. It's a little bigger and bold. Why this difference? Is it a bug or something I can adjust?
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Usability Question
In my library let's say I have 2 Bonnie Raitt albums. When I click her icon it then shows the cover art for each of the albums. If I double tap on one of the albums the next screen shows an icon for each song, but it doesn't show the song title. I think it is showing the bit rate. How do I get it to show the song titles? Is this an issue with how I originally set up the view in MC?
Also, how do people play the entire album? Do you press and hold the album cover icon and press "play now"?
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Hi
I would like to control MC19 from my listening chair.
I have MC19 on a Win 7 PC. My music is on a NAS connected to the PC by ethernet via a router. The router can do wireless. This network is not connected to the internet.
I have JRemote on my iPad Air.
I have not been able to connect to MC19 via the iPad.
I am not experienced with setting up networks.
Any suggestions? I would appreciate any help. Pease assume I'm stupid 😜
Thanks
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Turn on Media Network (Tools/Options/Media Network and tick the Use Media Network... box.) It will generate an access key which is usually used to allow clients to connect to the PC but I think this requires internet access so that method won't work. Instead, you need to know the IP address of your PC and when you set up JRemote you can enter the IP address instead of the access key.
Then, if you want to customise the views and browsing structure that JRemote sees, you can configure them in Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo.
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Thanks!!
Option two worked
:)
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JRemote DOES NOT output Hi Rez audio.
And now I'm not so sure it is truly playing the uncompressed file at these higher resolutions either.
Yes, it correctly identifies the playing file with those bitrates, but it certainly doesn't output the file via the CCK to a DAC at anything other than 16/44.1k
Hi, toomanybarts,
Just yesterday i ordered the camera connection kit and a USB hub. I already have an Audioquest Dragonfly to test with. It is able to handle 24/96 audio.
Once I get this tested I will get back to you with my findings.
The audio engine used in the app is certainly able to play 24/96 files, and it should play these files without downsampling.
I can promise you that once I get to confirm this myself, I will find a solution to the problem.
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Hi All, I love JRemote it works great. I have a Samsung telly in the lounge and I use JRemote to display films and play tunes on the TV. This works well but when I try to display images they appear on the iPad itself. I can't ever find a way to display them on the telly.
Anyone else see this behavior?
Ross
I can confirm that this is an issue with JRemote. It should only display images locally when current zone is "This device".
A fix will be included in an upcoming version.
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I can confirm that this is an issue with JRemote. It should only display images locally when current zone is "This device".
A fix will be included in an upcoming version.
Top man, thanks a lot.
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Hi, toomanybarts,
Just yesterday i ordered the camera connection kit and a USB hub. I already have an Audioquest Dragonfly to test with. It is able to handle 24/96 audio.
Once I get this tested I will get back to you with my findings.
The audio engine used in the app is certainly able to play 24/96 files, and it should play these files without downsampling.
I can promise you that once I get to confirm this myself, I will find a solution to the problem.
Thanks lespaul, really appreciate your help.
And the amazing work you've already done building this app.
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Would it be possible to have some way of viewing the current playlist when an iPad is vertical?
I just picked up a Retina iPad mini along with a nice stand (http://twelvesouth.com/static/assets/products/productgalleryimage/image/HiRiseiPad_music_gallerymain.jpg), only to find that I can't view or edit the playlist using it.
I feel like there's space being wasted by having the categories along the side rather than across the top or bottom of the app too. As you see in that picture, the Apple music app displays 20 thumbnails at once - JRemote displays 12 (and a half row)
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JRemote uses the same views as Gizmo so you will need to go into Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Configure Views for Gizmo to define how you want to sort. I would suggest that on the Album category you edit the sort order to be Date (oldest first). (highliught Album, press Edit and go to the Sorting field.
I was quite happy to read the above as I had been looking for a way to get things to sort properly in JRemote on my iPhone for some time. Unfortunately I must have missed something because no matter what changes I make in the Options indicated above nothing changes on my iPhone either in "Player" or "This Device" mode.
Carl
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The device you've chosen for output (Player, This Device) won#t have any effect on the sort order.
Try restarting both MC and JRemote, soemtimes chnages aren't refelcted until the server is restarted and JRemote reconnects.
The options I indicated are indeed how to change the views for JRemote, so as you say there must be something missing. Try playing around with the views, not just the sort order, to see if anything at all changes, to satisfy yourself that it does have an effect, then you can work out why the sort order isn't working.
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The device you've chosen for output (Player, This Device) won#t have any effect on the sort order.
Try restarting both MC and JRemote, soemtimes chnages aren't refelcted until the server is restarted and JRemote reconnects.
The options I indicated are indeed how to change the views for JRemote, so as you say there must be something missing. Try playing around with the views, not just the sort order, to see if anything at all changes, to satisfy yourself that it does have an effect, then you can work out why the sort order isn't working.
It seems that you have to completely exit out of Media Center (and of course JRemote) for the changes to take effect on the iPhone. I have managed to get it looking mostly the way I would like at the Artist / album levels. There are a few settings that I thought should have worked but either produced unpredictable results or caused JRemote to crash.
But for some reason now the tracks are shown out of order when looking at a particular album.
Carl.
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I'm not sure but under Set Rules For File Display/Modify Results try a sort order of Track #. I don't need that on mine but try it anyway.
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Does jremote update the "last played" date? I have it working for ratings but the "last played" tag always stays as "never played."
Thanks!
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I just installed a 2nd CAPSv3 Zuma Server with JRiver 19 installed. I cannot log onto it using the key and username & password. It says something like "your computer was found but your credentials are not correct". I have tried every combination possible. I have never had this issue with my original one. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Thx
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I'm not sure but under Set Rules For File Display/Modify Results try a sort order of Track #. I don't need that on mine but try it anyway.
That seems to have done the trick. Thanks for your help.
Carl
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I have been wrestling with this all week. I just set up a new CAPSv3 Zuma server running JRiver 19. I do have TV running for live TV though I have many tweaks and adjustments to make. But I have figured out how to get it to record to my Synology Diskstation 1812. The rpoblem I am having is that I am unable to get "Video Station" on the Disktation to play the video either on my local laptop or remotely ipad or iphone. I can't get JRiver to play remotely on my iphone or ipad either.
I first had the video settings to jtv. Then read where ts may be more universal so I switched to that. But has not made a difference.
Now, I am aware that the actual file type is most likely what makes the differnce...mpg4, mpg2, avchd, etc but I am at a loss where to go from here.
I should also mention that in my research for this I did see where VLC is suggested and it even popped up as a suggestion that it be installed. I have installed VLC on my ipad with no luck. I know I am not doing something right......
Lastly.....I would like to be able to remotely stream live TV from JRiver using JRemote on my ios devices. I even have had a VPN set up to do this.....but, alas, not luck here, either.
I want to record TV in the best possible resolution & format as possible for playback at home as well as remotely on my ios devices.
I know there's alot her but would really appreciate any guidance anyone might be able to provide.
Thanks for listening!
JR
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Is it possible to use "Users" feature somehow in JRemote?
Basically I want to allow my kids stream their content to iPad and iPod, but without possibility to watch R-rated movies.
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Never mind. I think it was a new option that was checked by default in the new version: Switch zone on server as well as device.
I think I've found a new bug with JRemote.
-I play a movie on the HTPC that's running MC server, not using JRemote - just the regular standard view of MC.
-Launch JRemote on my iPad.
-Connect to the server.
-Choose a DLNA zone.
Immediately MC switches to the zone chosen in JRemote. This cannot be designed behaviour, and I think this did not happen in the last version of JRemote. To check, I went back about 20 versions of MC 19. I also connected via Gizmo on my Android tablet, and I was able to continue watching my movie on the MC server HTPC and play music in another DLNA zone.
Also, this whole set up was working fine as recently as this post: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=85580.0 , which was about a week ago. I believe I updated to the latest version of JRemote during that past week.
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I'm a new user so pardon my ignorance. I am using JRiver just for audio. I have a JRiver Server setup on a media server (upstairs) and a mac mini connected to my stereo (downstairs). I downloaded JRemote so that I could control the mac mini (client). JRemote seems to recognize what the mac mini is playing (it's set to Player, not This Device) but it will not control the mac mini. I tried creating a zone just for the mac mini but it is not recognized. Both the client and JRemote have the correct access code from the server. Both machines are running the latest version of JRiver.
I can control the Server version with my JRemote no problem but I cannot control the client. Does anyone have any suggestions on what i'm doing wrong or how I should adjust my settings? Thanks.
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I'm not sure but I think you can't control "clients" remotely through the "server", you probably need to connect JRemote to the Mini, which means setting up the Mini as a "server" too. (Client/Server in JRiver terms means the bit of JRiver software that you are referring to, as opposed to the role of the machine). Two questions:
1. If you can't control the Mini, how did you get it to start playing in the first place?
2. When you first load JRemote, is it the upstairs machine that you connect to?
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1. I can control the mini using the actual JRiver program on it. I have a wireless mouse/keyboard and it's connected to my tv. I'd rather not have to use the tv/mouse/keyboard, i'd like to use my iphone to control it.
2. Yes, when I first start JRemote, it is the upstairs Server that it connects too.
Maybe this is more of a question about Server vs. Client. I can make the mac mini a server instead, I really don't need to have a server upstairs since I'm not using it. My concern was the media file location. My media is on a shared drive connected to the server upstairs (it is available to any computer connected to my local network). If I stop/disable the upstairs JRiver server and make the mac mini the server instead, will JRiver recognize the shared folder as my media file location? Does it support this functionality? Using a local network drive location?
Sorry if I'm making this more confusing by my descriptions.
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I'm not much of an expert on the client/server thing, I get confused too!
Your upstairs computer can remain as it is. What I believe it is doing is catloguing and storing your media collection as a local library and then making it available to other installations of MC. Each client also has its own local library but you can instead load a library from another server. But that client can still act as a server for control purposes. Try enabling Media network on the Mini and it should then be available to JRemote to connect to and control but it will still be using a remote library on another server. The terms client and server for J River purposes relate to the actual function you're performing and this will change according to what you're doing.
If the shared drive is available to the Mini under the same name as the upstairs computer then this is what enables it to play the media using a remote library. If you want to convert the Mini to hold the library instead then you will have to import the media again into the Mini's local library, or backup the library on the upstairs machine, copy the backup to the Mini and restore it there, making sure all the file locations you set up initially are replicated on the Mini.
However, you will then need to do all importing, ripping etc on the Mini which, if connected to the living room TV and a wireless keyboard, might be cumbersome to do. You could connect the upstairs PC as a client to it for management purposes but clients don't have full admin capability to a remote library, and you'd need to set up authentication and synching, which I've never managed to get working properly. (I think JRiver doesn't actually *connect* to a remote library as a client, it just loads a remote library locally, so any changes you make have to be synched back to the "server").
As I said, I'm not that certain of how it all works - you might get some better advice posting in a general thread in the Media Network forum rather than the specific JRemote thread in Third Party. The same considerations would apply if using the JRiver-supplied Gizmo as a remote control.
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Thanks for your help. I made the mac mini a server and it was able to recognize the shared drive as the media folder. Works perfectly now.
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Bug?
I have the default view set to thumbnails in settings.
However, with the exception of the audio view, as I drill lower into Images, Movies or Playlists the thumbnail setting no longer controls the view.
FastKayak / Larry
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Feature Request - default tap action
Many screens have the add to playing now action at the top of the screen. The default action seems to be common to all screens.....I wish it wasn't. Let's say I have it set to "play all now" because I've been playing songs. Then I tap on a movie. JRemote queues all my movies. Ouch!
Could the the various screens have (or at least by media type) separate defaults?
FastKayak / Larry
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Bug?
I have the default view set to thumbnails in settings.
However, with the exception of the audio view, as I drill lower into Images, Movies or Playlists the thumbnail setting no longer controls the view.
FastKayak / Larry
Yes, I think this is what I've experienced and have reported it before. Audio menu works correctly, it displays thumbnails until you reach a list of individual files (tracks) then it reverts to a text listing. But it does the same thing for Images and Video where a text listing of files is *not* what you want! This is where the thumbnails are most useful.
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^^^^ Yeah I figured in a thread nearly 600 entries long I might not be the first to notice. Let's hope it gets fixed this time. ;D
FastKayak / Larry
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Hi all –
Ah, this is really where we ask questions on JRemote? I can only assume somebody else has already asked what I'm curious about, but this thread is crazy long and I'm not going to scroll through it all...
Is there a way to edit the categories? I.e. I tap on Audio and get Genre, Artist, Album, Recent, Composer, Podcast, Highly Rated. I don't use those last three and can't imagine ever doing so. In there something I can tweak server-side to change them (to, say, Year)?
Thanks very much –
Micah
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^^^^ Your answer is in post #570
Turn on Media Network (Tools/Options/Media Network and tick the Use Media Network... box.) It will generate an access key which is usually used to allow clients to connect to the PC but I think this requires internet access so that method won't work. Instead, you need to know the IP address of your PC and when you set up JRemote you can enter the IP address instead of the access key.
Then, if you want to customise the views and browsing structure that JRemote sees, you can configure them in Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo.
FastKayak / Larry
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... this thread is crazy long and I'm not going to scroll through it all...
Is there a way to edit the categories? I.e. I tap on Audio and get Genre, Artist, Album, Recent, Composer, Podcast, Highly Rated. I don't use those last three and can't imagine ever doing so. In there something I can tweak server-side to change them (to, say, Year)?
or Reply #566...
JRemote uses the same views as Gizmo so you will need to go into Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Configure Views for Gizmo to define how you want to sort. I would suggest that on the Album category you edit the sort order to be Date (oldest first). (highliught Album, press Edit and go to the Sorting field.
It feels like this has been asked and answered for about 500 times... e.g. csimon must have sore fingers :P
Finally a sticky closed thread for "How to set up views for JRemote/Gizmo/MyRiver" on top of this forum would be handy ;D
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Aha! Thanks for the quick responses, guys. I did not know it ran on the same framework as Gizmo. Easy tweak.
Have a good one –
Micah
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LOL! It would be useful I think to have a "Getting Started..." button on the opening page of JRemote. Nothing involved or complex, just giving brief solutions to the common problems, i.e. how to enable Media Network and connect JRemote to MC, and where to go to customise the views.
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I was just about to post the same, but you already said all essential ;D
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Finally a sticky closed thread for "How to set up views for JRemote/Gizmo/MyRiver" on top of this forum would be handy ;D
+1
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I just bought and installed JRemote - looks great.
However: I thought it'd be possible to play the music through the 'loudspeakers' of my iPad. Is that correct or did I misunderstand?
If it is correct: where do I have to adjust the settings?
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Yes, you can play through the iPad speaker. In the lower left, select the Device selection node, and select This Device.
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or Reply #566...
It feels like this has been asked and answered for about 500 times... e.g. csimon must have sore fingers :P
Finally a sticky closed thread for "How to set up views for JRemote/Gizmo/MyRiver" on top of this forum would be handy ;D
Hm, I did so, but I still see the same thing in my JRemote. (Re-added connection to server in JRemote, restarted media network.)
(http://img.ly/system/uploads/007/969/484/large_Untitled.png)
Thoughts? Thanks.
(Sorry for the slow reply; had surgery and couldn't test on server.)
Micah
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@laerm - Is your post a question, or an answer?
If you're not seeing your view changes in a WebGizmo client (JRemote is one), be sure to both Quit MC and the its media server, and relaunch JRemote and navigate back through the views.
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@laerm - Is your post a question, or an answer?
If you're not seeing your view changes in a WebGizmo client (JRemote is one), be sure to both Quit MC and the its media server, and relaunch JRemote and navigate back through the views.
Question.
But you set me straight: I did not restart MC. All is good now, thanks.
Micah
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I would like the "X" to be gone in album view, is that possible? Also, can album view also display, say, the current song?
Thanks, and just saying that this is the best! remote ever.
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Is it possible to sync my main JR player with my ipad? I seem only to be able to link other zones, but not the ipad.
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Is there a way to use JRemote to "Run Auto Import"? That would be a real boon to me in a few circumstances.
Best,
John
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Two question about JRemote... By the way, I love it!
1. I could swear that when I first started using it I could go to Album-"Bad company" (or whatever) and then click on any song to start the album from that point... On the "white screen" I'm talking about. Now if I try to hit any other song it starts playing the first song. The only way I can go directly to a song is to hit the first song and then when, the player appears on the bottom, click on that to bring up the album's track list. I clearly must've changed a setting or something but not sure what I did. Seems to have happened when I was messing around with play lists.
2. Can you create playlists from JRemote? In general I'm having a hard time with the playlists. Is their a complete tutorial on this app I can download and read cover to cover? Thanks!
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Two question about JRemote... By the way, I love it!
1. I could swear that when I first started using it I could go to Album-"Bad company" (or whatever) and then click on any song to start the album from that point... On the "white screen" I'm talking about. Now if I try to hit any other song it starts playing the first song. The only way I can go directly to a song is to hit the first song and then when, the player appears on the bottom, click on that to bring up the album's track list. I clearly must've changed a setting or something but not sure what I did. Seems to have happened when I was messing around with play lists.
2. Can you create playlists from JRemote? In general I'm having a hard time with the playlists. Is their a complete tutorial on this app I can download and read cover to cover? Thanks!
Okay... I figured out question 1.... I need to have it set for "play all now" and then the album will play from whatever track I hit first. Took me awhile but glad I figured it out.
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2. Can you create playlists from JRemote? In general I'm having a hard time with the playlists. Is their a complete tutorial on this app I can download and read cover to cover? Thanks!
Quoting myself from another thread:
I can using Windows 19 JRiver and JRemote on iPhone.
I have to be in a play window and then show song list. The "Action" button lets me save the current playlist including giving it a unique name.
Once you do this a few times it is great…I use "add one next" to create the playlist usually…I sometimes use the edit button to delete a song (sometimes to add it later or sometimes to just remove it). Once I have it the way I like, I use the Action button to save it. I have a running "Demo Playlist" that I add songs to from time to time when I find them…then I can play it on shuffle and get a great demo playlist!
Best,
John
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Having a Problem streaming from JRiver (Mac) to JRemote.
My Library is almost all AIFF. I would like to stream in the native format, however, JRemote crashes every time I do this. If I enable trascoding everything works fine. What do I need to do to get strewing in the native format to work?
Thanks,
Dave
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Hope someone can help.....using JRemote.....is there a more efficient way to Fast forward other than swiping in :30 increments?
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Has nobody an answer on my question(s) on the previous page, particularly this part:
"Oh... and meanwhile I have another problem. When I try to play an album, when a track is finished often it doesn't go to the next track. I see "Audio Streaming Error". But when I push the "Next" button it does play. I am very close to my router and with other apps relying on wifi I don't have problems.
What can I do to solve this ?".
I just tried this yesterday and I am getting the same response/problem. I can play one file/song, but get the error "Audio Streaming Error" as it tries to go to the next song. Next or Stop/Play will play the next song, then same thing again.
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Having a hard time figuring out how to use JRemote to create playlists... It seems to want to drag whole albums into a list. Is there a simple way to grab stuff song by song and create individual playlists from my Iphone or do I have to do it from my computer using JRiver Media Center?
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You can't as yet use JRemote to create and save playlists in MC, even though MC-created playlists will appear in JRemote, however you can certainly add individual tracks to its own queue - press and hold the track and you will get an add-to-queue menu. There is a default action for when you tap on a track and this is configurable in the settings.
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Here is a snapshot of my artist view in the remote.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/10g0b4g.jpg)
When I select an artist with more than one album I see, for example, this:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2urqvlc.jpg)
But when I select an artist with only one album the remote skips this step and goes right to the album:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2ibhgkp.jpg)
Why? This is not how it appears in the standard view in JRiver. I would like to see he same screen as above with my selection albums, knowing of course that there will be only one. In any event, I'd like to see that one. My settings for gizmo are just as they should be, but the remote seems to skip this step for artists with one album. How can I change this?
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I don't think you can change this behaviour. It is the way MC works, I think Theater View works the same way and so does Gizmo, but Standard View and DLNA don't.
I've asked before if this could be configurable as in some circumstances it is actually useful, for example if your views are set up for drilling down into multi-CD sets, it will skip the boxed set level if there is only one CD in the set (which will be for most of your collection).
But it would be nice to be able to configure it on or off on the levels you want rather than a hardcoded on or off for all levels depending on the type of client you are using.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Good to know, though I wish it were possible. Seems like an easy fix, no?
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Support for custom tags:
Does J Remote support custom tags. In my J River setup, I have a custom tag for "composition" which I see on my computer screen. However, I don't see it on J Remote.
Is there something I need to do so that I can see this custom tag?
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Support for custom tags:
Does J Remote support custom tags. In my J River setup, I have a custom tag for "composition" which I see on my computer screen. However, I don't see it on J Remote.
Is there something I need to do so that I can see this custom tag?
It seems to do it for me - I have a custom field called Medium and this shows up in JRemote's tag window, but I think it only shows tags that have something in them.
Note that my files are FLAC, which is flexible for storing custom tags, and I have JRiver configured to store tags in the files. Are you using a file format that can only store standard tags and have you set JRiver to store tags in files? JRiver standard view will display tags from its library rather than from the files but maybe JRemote will only read them from the files.
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Custom fields are supported - these are available to the MCWS REST interface which I believe JRemote uses to obtain metadata. The values from from MC's database, not file tags, so file format would not matter. Only fields with values are presented.
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is Lespaul Ok? ?
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Support for custom tags:
Does J Remote support custom tags. In my J River setup, I have a custom tag for "composition" which I see on my computer screen. However, I don't see it on J Remote.
Is there something I need to do so that I can see this custom tag?
As said by others, only custom fields with values are shown. If you want to use JRemote to add to a file/track a value to a custom field you have set up in MC, in JRemote just select edit on another field for that file and change the field name to the name of your desired custom field and add a value.
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Hello,
Couple of months ago I purchased JRemote and IPad2 with specific reason only to remotely control my audiophile system. The configuration is standard (all is wired by cat-6) – Router, Cable modem, NAS, Dell PC – Win7 – JRiver-19 – dac – integrated amp – speakers.
When I started with JRemote I asked for access key from JRiver, enable DNLA, loaded access key to JRemote and was able to control JRiver from JRemote with no problem and with big pleasure and convenience!
In a few days I noticed that connection sometimes lost. No big deal – reconnected and it’s works.
Yesterday, the connection was lost completely.
First it was like out of sync.
When connection was lost completely.
I reload JRemote from app store, notice that it’s version 2.43 now;
When after reload it’s still showed ver. 2.42.
And no connection.
I deleted access key from JRiver and request a new one.
With the new key I got message that key is verified but server is not available.
And of course – no connection.
Any help with this would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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I think the version number is a mistake - I have 2.42 and there hasn't been an update since October, I think JRemote is reporting the wrong version and the version on iTunes is correct.
With regard to your connection issues, first of all make sure you have current build of MC too. Reboot the PC and restart the iPad. Note that you don't need to use the Access Key method to connect, this requires internet access and access to your server from outside your network. So let's eliminate this and in JRemote set up a new server and tell it your PC's IP address.
Lastly, are you sure nothing has changed in your network, like firewalls?
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Hi CSimon,
Thank you so very much for fast response.
All are OK now.
Best regards, Boris.
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JRemote is not always in sync with MC.
I recorded new episodes of Frontline and Downton Abbey but they don't appear in the show list on JRemote. Is there an easy way to force a refresh JRemote?
JRemote does not make it easy to identify episodes of a show. How can I display the recording date of each show?
It would be great if the programming guide was visible through JRemote so that new shows could be selected on JRemote while another show is playing through MC.
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JRemote is not always in sync with MC.
I recorded new episodes of Frontline and Downton Abbey but they don't appear in the show list on JRemote. Is there an easy way to force a refresh JRemote?
This is a combination of MC refreshing and republishing the library and JRemote refreshing and no, it doesn't always work very well. I think what seems to work most of the time is shutting down JRemote or disconnecting it from the server, and starting it up again.
JRemote does not make it easy to identify episodes of a show. How can I display the recording date of each show?
There is a Tag icon/button which will display all the populated tags for the selected item.
It would be great if the programming guide was visible through JRemote so that new shows could be selected on JRemote while another show is playing through MC.
If the EPG is available via MC's web-command protocol then it would certainly be possible.
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I just noticed that my latest recordings are visible in the Recent folder. Shouldn't they also be visible in the Shows folder too?
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When I first started using JRemote, I could swear there was a way for me to change the display on my laptop screen so that all i would see is the album that was playing sort of suspended on a black screen. Can't figure out how to do that now. It's helpful because my laptop sits near my speakers and the white screen is sort of annoying but the album on black is pretty cool. Anyone? Thanks!
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I am using "My River" remote app and I recently went with a dedicated MacMini(I was using my iMac as my music server). When I loaded my MC19 on my MacMini I received a new access key. When I try the remote with my new AK, I get a pop up stating check your network connections? I'm using it the same way I did with my iMac. Any ideas why the "My River" remote isn't working with my MacMini? Any and all suggestions are much appreciated.
Thanks,
Gary
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As many have said , the JRemote is great , just one question , when I choose Threater view on the JRemote in the Ipad , frequently , the computer screen shows various photos of the singers and that is great , but problem is that I may need to pay the music for several hours before it shows such pictures (assuming that these pictures are obtained through internet) , is that a way to speed up this views of singers within 10-15 minutes ? My computer (MC19) is always connected to internet .
Is there some setting on MC19 that I missed ?
Any help would be appreciated .
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I am using "My River" remote app and I recently went with a dedicated MacMini(I was using my iMac as my music server). When I loaded my MC19 on my MacMini I received a new access key. When I try the remote with my new AK, I get a pop up stating check your network connections? I'm using it the same way I did with my iMac. Any ideas why the "My River" remote isn't working with my MacMini?
This is JRemote, not My River! However, this seems to me like a firewall issue. The Mini may be blocking incoming connections. In its firewall, try opening up the port that is specified in Tools/Media Network and then generate a new access key and see if that will work.
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As many have said , the JRemote is great , just one question , when I choose Threater view on the JRemote in the Ipad , frequently , the computer screen shows various photos of the singers and that is great , but problem is that I may need to pay the music for several hours before it shows such pictures (assuming that these pictures are obtained through internet) , is that a way to speed up this views of singers within 10-15 minutes ? My computer (MC19) is always connected to internet .
Is there some setting on MC19 that I missed ?
Any help would be appreciated .
I think you might be better asking this question in the MC19 forum http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=32.0 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=32.0) as it isn't a JRemote issue.
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I have had this same problem now for the better part of a year. Noted on the JRemote web site, asked everyone, and nobody seems to have an answer.
Is this a new and desired behavior? I really don't like my phone crashing on me that way. :/
-Paul
Having a Problem streaming from JRiver (Mac) to JRemote.
My Library is almost all AIFF. I would like to stream in the native format, however, JRemote crashes every time I do this. If I enable trascoding everything works fine. What do I need to do to get strewing in the native format to work?
Thanks,
Dave
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New to JRiver and JRemote. Launched remote on my IPad and it works well connected over the internet. I had always used Apple Remote over my MacMini's local area network. I prefer this use without router, but cannot aim JRemote app to see network as such ? Would there be a better app for such connection ?
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New to JRiver and JRemote. Launched remote on my IPad and it works well connected over the internet. I had always used Apple Remote over my MacMini's local area network. I prefer this use without router, but cannot aim JRemote app to see network as such ? Would there be a better app for such connection ?
You can connect to your LAN without using the Internet. You may find this useful:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Network
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Just bought jremote and I think it's great. Are we anywhere near transcoding video for iOS yet?
A small bug in that video does not rotate to landscape in iOS7 on my iPhone 5s.
SBR
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Got it working!! Thanks for the help
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Unable to find an answer to my question...
Just started using JRemote on iPad with Windows JRiver v19.
I know JRemote will wake my PC, but is there a way for it to shutdown my PC without needing a display attached and powered on?
The only way I've found is to tap Remote, Theater, Exit but I need to have the display on to see what I'm doing!
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I as well find the IOS7 will not rotate the video on my 4S.
Is there something I need to do?
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Unable to find an answer to my question...
Just started using JRemote on iPad with Windows JRiver v19.
I know JRemote will wake my PC, but is there a way for it to shutdown my PC without needing a display attached and powered on?
The only way I've found is to tap Remote, Theater, Exit but I need to have the display on to see what I'm doing!
Go to settings and press the right arrow on your connected server and you'll find a menu of commands at the bottom including Sleep and Shutdown.
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Oh yes!
Great, thank you very much!
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Just got an iPad air and I want to know if jremote can access my files from a remote location via wifif and push the music to a Bose player via bluetooth?
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JRemote can connect to a remote MC library, e.g. one that's on your home PC while you've got JRemote in work, provided you've got port-forwarding set up correctly on your router. It will use the Access Key method to connect, just as if you were using a copy of MC itself remotely.
I'm not sure about bluetooth but I would think this is possible if you stream the remote files to the iPad so that the iPad is playing the music (play it to This Device in JRemote), then use the built-in bluetooth facility of the iPad to send to external speakers. Perhaps someone else could confirm.
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I'm not sure about bluetooth but I would think this is possible if you stream the remote files to the iPad so that the iPad is playing the music (play it to This Device in JRemote), then use the built-in bluetooth facility of the iPad to send to external speakers. Perhaps someone else could confirm.
That should work. I do something similar with Gizmo.
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Hey guys,
sorry for not being here in a while, I will try to participate more actively from now on.
I am glad to see that you guys are helping each other though.
The new iOS 7 version is taking longer than i expected for various reasons.
I have to admit that I have been going back and forth on design changes to find something i like.
Not everyone will find the new design an improvement I guess.
Personally I don`t feel that every change in iOS7 is an improvement, but it`s important to adapt to the new look.
Since this has taken longer than expected, I may release one more bug-fix for the current version.
Most importantly, the 24/96 output is not working, as it`s down sampled to 44.1. This is fixed in the new version but I feel bad for not
releasing the fix earlier.
I still cant give a release estimate for the iOS7 version, but things are moving faster now.
There won`t be many new features in this release, but there are improvements to iPad portrait view on both the main view and "Now playing" view. Additionally, I may change the theater remote to use buttons as well as adding keyboard functionality.
Once this version is out I can finally concentrate more on adding new features and improvements.
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You can't as yet use JRemote to create and save playlists in MC, even though MC-created playlists will appear in JRemote, however you can certainly add individual tracks to its own queue - press and hold the track and you will get an add-to-queue menu. There is a default action for when you tap on a track and this is configurable in the settings.
Actually you can add and save playlists if you use MC18 or later.
From the now playing view, if you press the "Action" button you will get an option to save the playlist.
This will save the current "now playing" playlist as either a new playlist or you may choose to overwrite an exiting list.
Btw, both from email support and the posts in this forum I see the need for something like a wiki.
This wiki could also be linked from the app itself.
Would that be a good idea? Would anyone be interested in contributing?
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Nice to hear that you're still around and still developing! But please, please fix the bugs and issues in the current version before abandoning it for iOS7.
1. Browsing view automatically comes out of thumbnail mode for video and images when at individual file level - it should only do this for music (reported first on Nov 17th 2012, post #669 in the original JRemote thread, but also here on April 21 2013, post #113, also mentioned by other people recently).
2. The playlist is not accessible from the portrait Playing Now screen (reported first on Nov 17th 2012, post #669 in the original JRemote thread).
3. Option to "switch zone on device when server zone changes". Otherwise JRemote does not keep up with automated zone changes done by Zone Switch in MC (reported on Jun 15th 2013, post #221).
4. Stop button, to release the renderer and the file (I think it's already been put in on the browse screen? Not at an iPad at the moment).
5. Playlist not refreshing properly when items added (reported on Sept 26th 2013, post #436 - attached photo shows Playing Now saying Track 1 of 4 but only 3 tracks listed).
6. Images cannot be sent to DLNA device e.g. TV, they always appear on the device (reported on Nov 123th 2013, post #552).
7. Browsing an album sometimes results in "Various, Multiple Albums" as a title instead of "[Album Artist], [Album]". (Reported by myself on Nov 17th 2012, post #665 in the first JRremote thread, but mentioned by other people several times here and in the original thread). It may be a metadata problem or a problem in the way MC itself is recognising various artist albums and compilations, but no-one has been able to work out why it happens, so if you could eliminate this as a problem in JRemote then that would be helpful.
8. A FAQ screen for common questions/problems, e.g.
Q. How do I change the views/sorting order? A. Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo
Q. Why is [MyDevice] not appearing as a Zone? A. Check if the device is listed on the MC server as a Zone. If so, reload JRemote. If not, check your MC and device and network settings, ask questions in Media Network forum, etc.
Q. Why does a track not start playing? A. The device you are trying to play it on does not understand the format, or MC has a problem communicating with that device.
I suppose I'll have to give up on any eye candy such as album covers flipping round to show a list of tracks, instead of a new screen of tracks, or cover flow etc?!
I still feel a bit aggrieved that to take advantage of any new remote control features that will be put into JRemote or that will be implemented as new web-control commands are made available in MC, I will have to buy new iPads all round. I doubt that JRiver will implement MCWS commands that can only be used by iOS7. There are many apps on my iPad that are still available for iOS 5 but have been "updated for iOS7", there must be a way of compiling them so it will work in both. I'm putting more effort into encouraging the JRiver team to get Gizmo up to scratch as I feel I will be moving over pretty soon.
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JRemote can connect to a remote MC library, e.g. one that's on your home PC while you've got JRemote in work, provided you've got port-forwarding set up correctly on your router. It will use the Access Key method to connect, just as if you were using a copy of MC itself remotely.
I can confirm that this works really well. Port forwarding is straightforward for most routers for the jriver port. But for me it is dependent on having the PC turned on.
What I haven't figured out is how to port forward the wake-on-LAN call from jremote. WOL works perfectly when I'm connected to my LAN, but not from WAN.
My router is an AirPort Extreme and these reputedly do not forward ports to the LAN broadcast address. Tried port forwarding 7 and 9 to the IP address of the MediaPC, but just does not work.
Any tips?
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I don't really know what I'm talking about so you may already know all this, but I just Googled for WOL (and indeed Wake on WAN, as that is what you're trying to do really!) and found that you must forward the application's UDP WOL port to the broadcast address of your LAN. It also says what you have mentioned, that some routers don't allow the broadcast address as a target of a forward, but you get round this by forwarding to the PC's static IP address. You've done all that! I can only think that it's the port numbers that are wrong, perhaps JRemote isn't using the port number that you think it is for WOL.
Do I remember in JRemote there is a setting for an alternative server address for when you're not on the same network, and you then toggle in and out of that mode, or was I dreaming it?
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Thank you for the list of issues. I believe a couple of these have been corrected though.
4. Stop button, to release the renderer and the file (I think it's already been put in on the browse screen? Not at an iPad at the moment).
The stop button has been in both the iPad and iPhone version for a while now.
7. Browsing an album sometimes results in "Various, Multiple Albums" as a title instead of "[Album Artist], [Album]".
This should have been fixed in the last version, are you still seeing this?
I still feel a bit aggrieved that to take advantage of any new remote control features that will be put into JRemote or that will be implemented as new web-control commands are made available in MC, I will have to buy new iPads all round. I doubt that JRiver will implement MCWS commands that can only be used by iOS7. There are many apps on my iPad that are still available for iOS 5 but have been "updated for iOS7", there must be a way of compiling them so it will work in both. I'm putting more effort into encouraging the JRiver team to get Gizmo up to scratch as I feel I will be moving over pretty soon.
There is, but as a one man team I really don`t have time to test and maintain compatibility all the way back to version 5.
It`s been ok up til now, but iOS7 have some major changes that would make this process much more time consuming for every new feature that needs to be added.
Another issue is not being able to use any SDK features of new versions.
At one point you have to draw the line for backwards compatibility. I feel that iOS7 is the right version to to that.
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The stop button has been in both the iPad and iPhone version for a while now.
[Just checked back via a screenshot of Playing Now I posted recently...], yes you're right, apologies, I had the feeling that it was in the browse screen but not yet in Playing Now.
7. Browsing an album sometimes results in "Various, Multiple Albums" as a title instead of "[Album Artist], [Album]".
This should have been fixed in the last version, are you still seeing this?
I'll go back later to an album that was causing this problem before and see if it works - I don't recall it being announced as fixed so I thought it was still a problem.
Just one more thing!
9. I know you've reorganised and revamped the transport controls etc several times already but really the seek slider is not practical for movies and it's only just usable for 3-minute songs, due to its size. There is no way you can seek to any point in a movie to any precision, usually you get to where you want it but the act of raising your finger from the screen causes it to move sometimes up to 5 or 10 minutes away from where you want to be, you can forget trying to go back 2 minutes from where you currently are. Is there a possibility of having it fill the whole width of the screen, at the very bottom. Gizmo's controls have recently been revisited and the general feeling is that the seek bar is better being as wide as possible - indeed I've also expressed a wish that, for Playing Now at least, it would be nice to have a standard layout and design between the various remote control apps, with input as to attractiveness, layout and usability. Gizmo is getting there and now probably surpasses JRemote in landscape (showing large cover art on left which is interchangeable with the playlist on tapping), and large transport controls on right, but I think JRemote still has the edge in portrait due to the nice way the cover art is shown - apart from the seek slider and of course no access to the playlist!
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LesPaul
Still only really one lagging problem for me. This is a fantastic product - keep up the good work.
The problem is "landscape mode" for movies. I cannot get the movie to rotate on ipad or iphone.
It would be nice to have a really good starter set of canned views (good examples of views most requested)
example
[name]::[date] "what does this do" where do I find info on the views
Views formatting opens up the power of JRemote.
Again, wonderful product.
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Very impressed with this app, which I recently loaded onto my iphone 5s and ipad 4. Especially happy to be able to stream uncompressed hi-res flacs to the ipad. Streaming outside the LAN seems to work very well, too (listening in the car).
Here's my question. I'd love to be able to listen at work, but I'm blocked by a corporate firewall. I know that I can connect to my PC via https, since I stream using subsonic that way. I'd prefer to stream from MC via JRemote. Is there a way to configure a server in JRemote using https?
Thanks, and great work!
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LesPaul
I mis-spoke earlier.
The video was working earlier, now I cannot get video to play my mp4 movies on iphone and ipad. Neither works for me.
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How do I add files as one the types of audio to see in audio; not just ablums , composers, etc?
Thanks
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Hi Lespaul,
Can't wait to see the new version! Thank you for the hard work on a such a great product.
One issue that I hope is looked at eventually is how views are updated in JRemote. Right now, the only way to make this happen is to restart MC and then reload JRemote. I have many custom views that update automatically everytime you open them in MC such as music that was just played, just imported, random smartlists, etc... JRemote never updates these until MC is restarted.
Can these be updated automatically or provide a button or some sort of 'rubber-band' effect to swipe down on a list and it updates?
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Here's my question. I'd love to be able to listen at work, but I'm blocked by a corporate firewall. I know that I can connect to my PC via https, since I stream using subsonic that way. I'd prefer to stream from MC via JRemote. Is there a way to configure a server in JRemote using https?
I have personally never been able to get any remote working behind a firewall. I am in no way a network expert, so many someone else can assist with this.
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One issue that I hope is looked at eventually is how views are updated in JRemote. Right now, the only way to make this happen is to restart MC and then reload JRemote. I have many custom views that update automatically everytime you open them in MC such as music that was just played, just imported, random smartlists, etc... JRemote never updates these until MC is restarted.
You should be able to just reconnect to your current server in JRemote to refresh all views. If your views are not refreshed by that, then I suspect that this is an issue with MC. Also, only album views/lists are cached in JRemote, not track lists.
I will add some more options to release the cached views, but that won`t help in this case if you need to restart MC anyway.
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You should be able to just reconnect to your current server in JRemote to refresh all views. If your views are not refreshed by that, then I suspect that this is an issue with MC. Also, only album views/lists are cached in JRemote, not track lists.
I will add some more options to release the cached views, but that won`t help in this case if you need to restart MC anyway.
Hmm, its never worked that way since I've used JRemote across all versions of MC. When I try to 'reconnect', I'm selecting the name of the server in the Settings and JRemote reloads. Is that what you mean? I've got the MC Access Key enabled if that makes a difference.
Are there any other settings in JRemote or MC that might affect this? Are there any services or settings in windows that might cause this to stop working? I can't imagine its a bug in MC or JRemote if no one else is having this problem.
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Just to second the bugs Csimon has mentioned. Also, please rework the progress bar to be useful...it is very difficult to use with movies.
And, at some point on the playing now screen, the time left to play calculation breaks. This is most notable with movies (it does seem okay for music so maybe the problem starts when the elapsed time remaining exceeds an hour).
FastKayak / Larry
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7. Browsing an album sometimes results in "Various, Multiple Albums" as a title instead of "[Album Artist], [Album]". (Reported by myself on Nov 17th 2012, post #665 in the first JRremote thread, but mentioned by other people several times here and in the original thread). It may be a metadata problem or a problem in the way MC itself is recognising various artist albums and compilations, but no-one has been able to work out why it happens, so if you could eliminate this as a problem in JRemote then that would be helpful.
I confirm that this one appears to have been fixed, thank you.
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LesPaul, good to know you are back and good.
I can confirm that this works really well. Port forwarding is straightforward for most routers for the jriver port. But for me it is dependent on having the PC turned on.
What I haven't figured out is how to port forward the wake-on-LAN call from jremote. WOL works perfectly when I'm connected to my LAN, but not from WAN.
My router is an AirPort Extreme and these reputedly do not forward ports to the LAN broadcast address. Tried port forwarding 7 and 9 to the IP address of the MediaPC, but just does not work.
Any tips?
I'm with you, wol works fine on LAN but not over wan. The thing is with other wol tools I can wol over wan (had to make the mac of my server a static arp entry) but not working with JRemote
perhaps JRemote isn't using the port number that you think it is for WOL.
That could be the problem!
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You should be able to just reconnect to your current server in JRemote to refresh all views.
Yes, this seems towork for me. I've just imported some new files into MC. JRemote didn't see them. But I then went into Settings and tapped on my server's entry and JRemote reconnected. Whereupon the new files were then shown in JRemote.
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I take it back! Just imported another file and JRemote wouldn't show it, no matter how many times I reconnected. A restart of MC (including killing off the server process) fixed it. I guess that means there's a problem with MC itself.
The files that worked initially were audio, the one that didn't was video, I don't know if that makes a difference.
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Are the files on a local drive of the server?
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No, they're on a NAS. The last file imported OK into MC and I could see it in Theater View it's just that it didn't appear in JRemote's views.
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Can you test a local directory?
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9. I know you've reorganised and revamped the transport controls etc several times already but really the seek slider is not practical for movies and it's only just usable for 3-minute songs, due to its size.
Yes, these controls have been moved around quite a bit.
After reading yours and other complaints about the seek bar I decided to experiment some more.
I have now moved the seekbar to the bottom of the screen, streching the full length. I also added a couple of buttons on each side for quick +10s, +30s etc jumps. These numbers would need to change depending on wether you are playing a song or a movie.
This turned out quite nice. Not sure yet if this should also be the layout for the main screen.
I will take a look at the latest Gizmo version tonight.
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Yes, these controls have been moved around quite a bit.
After reading yours and other complaints about the seek bar I decided to experiment some more.
I have now moved the seekbar to the bottom of the screen, streching the full length. I also added a couple of buttons on each side for quick +10s, +30s etc jumps. These numbers would need to change depending on wether you are playing a song or a movie.
This turned out quite nice. Not sure yet if this should also be the layout for the main screen.
I will take a look at the latest Gizmo version tonight.
Terrific!
Please take a look at the time calculation too. Let's say I'm playing a movie that is 3 hours and 0 minutes and so far I've watched zero minutes of the movie. The time remaining will display 3 hours. A minute later 00.01.00 watched 03.01.00 remaining. An hour later 01.01.00 watched 02.01.00 remaining. The hour counter seems to properly count down while the minute and second counter count up in unison with watched counter.
FastKayak / Larry
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Can't find anything on this topic but I am having trouble viewing Tag info on my iPad when playing music. When I select the Tag in the upper right hand corner it will usually show Tag info for the first song in any Playlist I am in - but not the song playing
Am I missing something or is this a bug?
Thank you
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Can't find anything on this topic but I am having trouble viewing Tag info on my iPad when playing music. When I select the Tag in the upper right hand corner it will usually show Tag info for the first song in any Playlist I am in - but not the song playing
Am I missing something or is this a bug?
Thank you
In landscape after pressing hte tag button, there is a View button corresponding to each line of the playlist. In portrait, this facility doesn't appear to be there.
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Hey Lespaul glad you are back :)
Hoping video support for other formats will be coming soon.
One avenue of possibility to get support might be (I hope), the new VLC for iOS was released & I can set it to pick up MC via DLNA, the views are slow & clunky but it has played every video format I have tried (Although admittedly I have not extensively tested it), without transcoding. If J Remote could do this it would be icing on the cake.
You can get the complete source code here (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ios.html), & it's licensed under the GNU General Public License Version 2, so you can use any of the source in J Remote from what I gather reading the licence terms.
Can't wait to see what you've cooked up in future releases of the new version.
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When I first installed the remote it saw all my zones. Now my Oppo 105 is not in the zone list. The Oppo is still connected to the network as I can use it's network feature and stream from the JRiver Player. How do I get the remote to list it again? I have hit the refresh on the remote and tried rebooting my phone.
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When I first installed the remote it saw all my zones. Now my Oppo 105 is not in the zone list. The Oppo is still connected to the network as I can use it's network feature and stream from the JRiver Player. How do I get the remote to list it again? I have hit the refresh on the remote and tried rebooting my phone.
Please have a look in the MC front-end to see if the Oppo is in the Playing Now list, as JRemote should reflect exactly what MC sees. DLNA devices can sometimes drop out of the list, usually if MC receives an error from it. If it has dropped off the main MC list then you might need to go into MC's DLNA server settings and make changes. There is one setting that usually does this but I can't remember what it is off-hand!
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It is in the list and I can play to the Oppo from within MC, but it's not in the JRemote list anymore.
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That is odd, I don't know what could be going wrong there, especially if you've restarted the phone. Try restarting the server PC as well just to make sure.
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That is odd, I don't know what could be going wrong there, especially if you've restarted the phone. Try restarting the server PC as well just to make sure.
Restart of PC and then phone worked. The problem happened right after trying to connect to my Denon which is on the list but won't connect at all. It caused MC to give me connection errors then next thing I know I lost Oppo in the remote list.
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Hi. I just purchased this app for my ipad and I must say it works like a charm. One thing I've noticed though is the location of the now playing button is in a super awkward location. I tend to make a playlist most of the time and while holding the ipad it would be a whole lot easier if that button was on the lower half of the GUI. Perhaps next to the cd art/title. I don't know if anyone else feels this way or if its a non issue on the mini. At any rate, keep up the good work, fantastic product.
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Is there any way to get JRemote to play other video formats other than mp4? Will this be fixed in upcoming revisions? My Samsung, for example, plays any format using gizmo.
dave
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I have the JRemote on my wife's iPad and my iPhone. I was wondering if there is any way to make a play list from the devices. Also I would like to pick a genre and play all the files in that genre shuffled. Can these things be done from the apps?
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I was wondering if there is any way to make a play list from the devices.
On the playlist screen, press the Action button and select Save Playlist. I'm not sure if this results in a local playlist on the device (I would assume this is the case becuase there is also a Load Playlist action) or whether it creates one in MC, but have a go and see what happens!
Also I would like to pick a genre and play all the files in that genre shuffled.
Tap and hold on the Genre then select Shuffle and Play.
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On the playlist screen, press the Action button and select Save Playlist. I'm not sure if this results in a local playlist on the device (I would assume this is the case becuase there is also a Load Playlist action) or whether it creates one in MC, but have a go and see what happens!
But how do you select all the files you want on the playlist before you save it?
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Build up the Playing Now queue as you would normally. There is a default action when you tap on an item, which you can change, and I think by default it adds all items in the same view as the item you have tapped, i.e. the whole album generally. But you can add individual items by pressing and holding and selecting the action that you want, and then on the playing now screen you can move items and delete them.
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Hi,
Build up the Playing Now queue as you would normally. There is a default action when you tap on an item, which you can change, and I think by default it adds all items in the same view as the item you have tapped, i.e. the whole album generally. But you can add individual items by pressing and holding and selecting the action that you want, and then on the playing now screen you can move items and delete them.
but this is a very complicated method and not state of the art.
State of the art is, to add a file, wich i am hearing now an would like to add to a selectable Playlistlist stored in JRiver Mediacenter on the fly, or adding it to a new Playlist. Also edit an delete exsiting playlist would be state of the art.
Adding to a playlist is most of the time an action after or while hearing a great file witch i would add to one or more specific playlists. And yes, I would pay for a state of the art playlist integration :) Mediacenter Webservice is able to handle this, but integration in JRemote is waiting since a long time ago.
Thanks Erwin
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I don't think even Gizmo is able to do this as yet. Remember that JRemote is not a JRiver product, it's a thrird-party remote app. But having just played with JRemote now (after remembering a similar question recently) I can confirm that it does actually load and save playlists in MC itself. What it doesn't do I think is allow you to add a track to an existing playlist on-the-fly, you have to load the playlist first then add it, but you can certainly load and edit existing MC playlists.
Try it!
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I kwow the current workaround to do this, but i am missing the on the fly editing of playlist: "hearing a track and saving it to every playlist i think in this moment"
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have a look at this: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.msg569026;topicseen#msg569026 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.msg569026;topicseen#msg569026) no feedback
Mediacenter Webservice is supporting this since 5 Month ago
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Does anyone have the problem that touching 'L' in the alphabetized column on right hand side of thumbnail view takes you to 'B'? I am! All other letters work fine.
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Does anyone have the problem that touching 'L' in the alphabetized column on right hand side of thumbnail view takes you to 'B'? I am! All other letters work fine.
How is your view sorted? Is there anything unusual about the first item that appears under B?
I remember that this has been raised before. I can't remember the answer/solution but I think it's something to do with the fact that JRemote doesn't know how you have sorted your view - MC allows you to sort items however you want and it's not necessarily the same as the displayed text.
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Thanks csimon. I'm going to check it out.
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How is your view sorted? Is there anything unusual about the first item that appears under B?
I remember that this has been raised before. I can't remember the answer/solution but I think it's something to do with the fact that JRemote doesn't know how you have sorted your view - MC allows you to sort items however you want and it's not necessarily the same as the displayed text.
The views in jremote and the views in MC seem correct. MC jumps to L without any problem.
I also thought I read something about this in the past, but I couldn't find it.
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I was thinking that maybe your first item under B might have an L in the phrase somewhere, like Bob Lewis. (I made the name up!).
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The views in jremote and the views in MC seem correct. MC jumps to L without any problem.
I also thought I read something about this in the past, but I couldn't find it.
I got it. Thank you csimon. Apparently, by ignoring "The" it also ignores "Los" and "La"
La Boheme is now LaBoheme and Los Jaivas are now LosJaivas
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Ah, it was the other way around!
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have a look at this: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.msg569026;topicseen#msg569026 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.msg569026;topicseen#msg569026) no feedback
Mediacenter Webservice is supporting this since 5 Month ago
Sorry about not implementing this sooner. It will be first on my list once the iOS7 version is ready.
A few thoughts on implementation:
It would be bothersome having to select a playlist every time you want to add, so you should be able to mark any playlist as the current default.
If you want to add something to this list it`s a one tap process. Otherwise you get the playlist selection view.
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Has anyone here experienced not being able to connect after installing one of the latest MC updates?
Just trying to narrow down a few cases that I received within a two day period.
One thing they had in common was that this occurred after installing an update.
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Has anyone here experienced not being able to connect after installing one of the latest MC updates?
Just trying to narrow down a few cases that I received within a two day period.
One thing they had in common was that this occurred after installing an update.
I've not had any particular trouble, I tend to keep up with releases (and beta releases) as soon as they are available. There are indeed some initial problems in connecting, maybe around 50% of the time, but I've always put this down to a timeout problem because the server is still waking up. A few seconds later and it's OK. I don't think I've had any trouble connecting when the server is already up.
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Hi Lespaul,
Sorry about not implementing this sooner. It will be first on my list once the iOS7 version is ready.
A few thoughts on implementation:
It would be bothersome having to select a playlist every time you want to add, so you should be able to mark any playlist as the current default.
If you want to add something to this list it`s a one tap process. Otherwise you get the playlist selection view.
great to hear this. Yes, the option with the default playlist is a good idea. I hope you will also refresh the already loaded views after a playlist change.
Thanks Erwin
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Has anyone here experienced not being able to connect after installing one of the latest MC updates?
Just trying to narrow down a few cases that I received within a two day period.
One thing they had in common was that this occurred after installing an update.
Nope.
Of course, I don't use an access key, and use a FQDN directly to my network.
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Has anyone here experienced not being able to connect after installing one of the latest MC updates?
Just trying to narrow down a few cases that I received within a two day period.
One thing they had in common was that this occurred after installing an update.
I have noticed a dramatic increase in lost connections. I think version 19.114 is causing the problems for me.
1) The connection is dropped quite often.
2) JRemote is often unresponsive and keeps updating the screen (e.g. playlist artwork).
3) JRemote switches from Player mode to Device mode and won't switch back.
Loading/Unloading JRemote does not seem to help. I have better results if I unload everything on my iPad but I still lose the connection again within a few minutes.
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I had a connection problem yesterday using Gizmo on a Galaxy Note 3. It was solved by rebooting the phone.
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I'm going on a road trip this weekend so I should have a long time to test it. I'll let you know if anything weird happens.
As I mentioned, nothing in casual use lately.
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LesPaul, can you tell me which port does JRemote uses for Wol? I want to see if I can get wol working over internet with JRemote, currently I wake up my server from wan with another tool and then I open JRemote, I'm trying to do this automatically, can you help? Thanks!
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LesPaul,
I use RoomieRemote to automate my HT setup with some specific functions using MC's MCWS. However my main remote for the MC is using JRemote.
After selecting that I want to listen to music, I currently have to exit roomie on my iPad and switch to JRemote. Does JRemote have a handleOpenURL that would launch it from a url opened on the iPad like some other apps which launch when certain urls are opened? With Roomie I have the option to assign a url to a button which I could use to launch another app.
http://handleopenurl.com/ (http://handleopenurl.com/)
Now perfection would be if I could then have JRemote open a url on exit and call Roomie !!!
Just asking as I searched and could not get any hits
Great application and while traveling over the holidays it always impresses people the ease of accessing music and being able to stream it from the house to the other side of the world!
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I had a connection problem yesterday using Gizmo on a Galaxy Note 3. It was solved by rebooting the phone.
I power cycled my iPad and the connection seems to be more stable.
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I admit to being not only a 'noob', but have not yet purchaseda licence for MC19. I have however bought the JRemote app for my OS devices.
My intention is to replace my current Sonos setup.
I have a few Play5's, and the obligitory Connect (with an Arcam Sonlink).
I have been less and less impressed with the Sono mantra that Hires audio is not being supported. I have heard a super hires DSD tarck and I was in awe. I do not care about psycho acoustics and 'age' based limitations on audible frequency. I know that the less sampls you use, the further you get from a true analog waveform.
Tech rant over, MC19 supports up to 384 output and I am in the market for the only DAC I will need for the forseeable future. I intend to enjoy my music in my living room with an ipad as the remote device.
I may however want to listen to my music around the home (read 'bath') streamed to my ipad docked either physically or bluetooth to a set of speakers in that location.
I have my iphone (in the office currently) able to see what is playing on my PC. I cannot however see the tracks from the album currebtly playing, even thought I click on the tracks icon top right.
Also, I cannot seem to get the phone to play anyting as a secondary device (zone?)
Is there a pdf of similar put together for the *very* uninitiated who want to
A) remote control MC via an android device and have all functionality
B) use a remote control device as a playback zone?
Everything I try to do ends up with
"No Media"
"No media as found in this view"
Toggling between playlist position, track number, enabling/disabling thumbnails for the remote (showing currently playing track - so right zone?) does nothing.
Please help if you can, I want to use this as a hires audio player, with a good remote control option (Ipad) and if possible to stream to a mobile device...
thanks in advance,
Arthur.
JRemote is the first full featured native iOS remote for JRiver Media Center.
The app was developed to offer you full remote control of your JRiver Media Center from any of your iDevices.
Please note that you need JRiver Media Center version 15 or later.
The current version is 2.22.
Link to App Store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jremote/id486222633?l=nb&ls=1&mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jremote/id486222633?l=nb&ls=1&mt=8)
Link to JRemote.net
http://www.jremote.net (http://www.jremote.net)
You can find the old JRemote thread here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.0 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.0)
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I cannot however see the tracks from the album currebtly playing, even thought I click on the tracks icon top right.
Are you using it in portrait? I don't know abou the iPhone but on the iPad there's an issue in that the current playlist is not accessible from the Playing Now screen while in portrait. Try landscape!
Also, I cannot seem to get the phone to play anyting as a secondary device (zone?)
You want to stream music to the iPhone? In which case, the zone you need to select in JRemote is "This Device". I can imagine there may be issues with file formats though, what formats are your music files in?
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Start at the Media Network topic on our wiki.
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Can JRemote show metadata other than basics like artist/album? I like to put the version information of a song into the Comment field (for example 12" Disco Mix or Mono 45 Version) rather than into the song title. I'd like to see the Comment field in JRemote.
ETA: Never mind I found where all the Metadata is :-)
How to do this?
Thanks
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How to do this?
Thanks
Press the Tag button which is in the top right corner.
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Hey guys,
sorry for not being here in a while, I will try to participate more actively from now on.
I am glad to see that you guys are helping each other though.
Since this has taken longer than expected, I may release one more bug-fix for the current version.
Most importantly, the 24/96 output is not working, as it`s down sampled to 44.1. This is fixed in the new version but I feel bad for not
releasing the fix earlier.
YESSSS!!!!!!
I knew I wasn't going mad...everyone telling me the iPad's not capable of hi Rez playback!!
(2 great pieces of good news in one week for me - I'm a little behind on the forums - first Gizmo has ratings implemented - good news for my android phone - and now JRemote will be getting hi Rez playback - great news for my ipad!!)
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I'm going on a road trip this weekend so I should have a long time to test it. I'll let you know if anything weird happens.
As I mentioned, nothing in casual use lately.
Used JRemote extensively this weekend, with MC 19.0.115 (116 had problems with plugins so I removed it and 117 wasn't out yet when I left). No disconnect issues at all.
As mentioned I do not use the access key method for connecting, but connect directly to my home's WAN address.
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Hi, a couple of things:
1. I'm having issues where the track abruptly ends and goes to the next song. Don't know whether this is a JRemote or a Media Center issue. I'm using JRiver Media Center for the Mac, ver. 19.0.3.
2. I've set the view for albums to be "Year" then below that "Year - Album." Is there a way to make JRemote group by year on the right hand sorter if the the first category view is by the year tag, i.e. " '54's, '63's, '78's " etc.?
Thanks for the consideration!
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1. I'm having issues where the track abruptly ends and goes to the next song. Don't know whether this is a JRemote or a Media Center issue. I'm using JRiver Media Center for the Mac, ver. 19.0.3.
Are you streaming to your iOS device or is the music playing on the Mac? What file format are the songs that are skipping?
2. I've set the view for albums to be "Year" then below that "Year - Album." Is there a way to make JRemote group by year on the right hand sorter if the the first category view is by the year tag, i.e. " '54's, '63's, '78's " etc.?
Sorry, I can't quite understand what you want here, however the views fro JRemote are defined in Tools/Options/Media Network/Views for Gizmo, so you have a look there and configure the sort order as you want it.
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"Play all Now" is not working in JRemote under Windows MC 19.114. I have it set as default tap action on the audio screens but when I select it the player pops up and I have to then hit the play button; after that the whole album plays as expected. Oddly this doesn't happen on the MAC MC19 version. Is there a setting in MC that contributes to this action on JRemote?
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Are you streaming to your iOS device or is the music playing on the Mac? What file format are the songs that are skipping?
Streaming to my iPhone 5. The file formats for the most part are MP3's. There might be some FLACs in there but this is with MP3's that I've caught.
Sorry, I can't quite understand what you want here, however the views fro JRemote are defined in Tools/Options/Media Network/Views for Gizmo, so you have a look there and configure the sort order as you want it.
Yes, I've currently set the view in Media Center. The thing with views that categorize by dates, there's no real sorter on the right. It just shows the "#" symbol and that's it. Which is why I'm wondering if the last two digits of the year could be added to the right.
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Yes, I've currently set the view in Media Center. The thing with views that categorize by dates, there's no real sorter on the right. It just shows the "#" symbol and that's it. Which is why I'm wondering if the last two digits of the year could be added to the right.
Do you mean the A-Z index that is superimposed on the right of the screen? If so, numbers are sorted under # as you've noted so no, there isn't a way to separate out individual numbers.
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Can JRemote control two different pc's running JRiver? Not simultaneously.
Thanks.
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Yes, JRemote connects to library servers and you can connect to any of them. The PCs you want to be controlled need to be running as library servers.
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Do you mean the A-Z index that is superimposed on the right of the screen? If so, numbers are sorted under # as you've noted so no, there isn't a way to separate out individual numbers.
Ok just wondering if there was a hidden setting somewhere. Thank you for the consideration csimon!
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Edit: never mind!
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Is there a way to get JRemote to send playback stats and/or Last.fm tracking?
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Hi Guys.
New to the JRemote thread but have been using and loving it for some time now.
I have one issue though. If I am listening to music with JRemote and the iPhone rings and I don't answer it. After it finishes ringing JRemote does not come back and continue playing.
Normally this isn't a big issue. Except when I am listening in the Shower via my Bluetooth speakers. Kind of hard to reach over and start it up again lol.
This has been going on for some time now so I don't think it is related to the version of MC. But just in case I am running the latest V 19 (118 I think?)
Thanks.
Carl.
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Hey All,
New to MC and JRemote. I've been running trial versions of MC on both my Windows pc and my macbook pro. Audio is output from my windows to my hi-fi via Airport express and a budget DAC. I've had no problems controlling volume with JRemote on my iphone, however with my MBP (which is outputting audio via optical to the DAC), nothing happens when I slide the volume controller on my ipad - I have to rely on changing volume on the Hi-Fi itself. Have I not set up something correctly?
Also, my DAC doesn't show up in MC - is this normal when using a budget DAC perhaps?
Cheers
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Volume is probably disabled on the Macbook. See http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Volume (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Volume)
USB DACs don't automatically appear as zones. You assign them to a zone in audio settings. See http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DAC_Settings (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DAC_Settings). DLNA devices and client instances of MC would automatically appear.
These are not really JRemote questions, I think you are on learning curve for MC itself. The main forum might be the best place to ask questions, either in the Windows or Mac sections as appropriate. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php#2 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php#2)
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Volume is probably disabled on the Macbook. See http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Volume (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Volume)
Checked volume on mbp - all good
DACs don't automatically appear as zones. You assign them to a zone in audio settings. See http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DAC_Settings (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DAC_Settings). DLNA devices and client instances of MC would automatically appear.
My DAC is not a USB one - just plugs in via optical or coax.
These are not really JRemote questions, I think you are on learning curve for MC itself. The main forum might be the best place to ask questions, either in the Windows or Mac sections as appropriate. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php#2 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php#2)
Noted, although it is the JRemote volume I'm having problems with - will post in the appropriate section next time.
Thanks for the help.
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My DAC is not a USB one - just plugs in via optical or coax.
In that case it's whatever is producing that SPDIF signal that is the soundcard/device that you will target, not the DAC. If it's your computer's default output device then this is the default zone that appears in Playing Now automatically, and in its settings you will find that the device driver is listed. If it's a second device then you need to add another zone and select the device driver in audio settings for that zone. See the link to DACs that I gave above.
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In landscape after pressing hte tag button, there is a View button corresponding to each line of the playlist. In portrait, this facility doesn't appear to be there.
Hello - it is actually there in both Portrait & Landscape mode. However when you hit it the Tag information is not the information for the song playing but rather for the first song of whatever playlist you are viewing.
Can this get on the bug fix list?
Thank you
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If I am listening to music with JRemote and the iPhone rings and I don't answer it. After it finishes ringing JRemote does not come back and continue playing.
Normally this isn't a big issue. Except when I am listening in the Shower via my Bluetooth speakers. Kind of hard to reach over and start it up again lol.
This has been going on for some time now so I don't think it is related to the version of MC. But just in case I am running the latest V 19 (118 I think?)
any ideas? Anyone else experiencing this sort of behaviour listening via bluetooth?
Carl.
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Hello - it is actually there in both Portrait & Landscape mode. However when you hit it the Tag information is not the information for the song playing but rather for the first song of whatever playlist you are viewing.
Can this get on the bug fix list?
Thank you
This actually works for me. I've just put a whole album to play in the playlist and when it advanced to Track 2 I pressed the Tag button and it showed me the metadata for Track 2, with the View square on the second item highlighted. I think you are in Browse view, not Playing Now. The tag button is definitely not available in portrait Playing Now. If you press the Tag button in Browse then yes, it displays the tag information for the first track in the view, you can then change which item you're looking at by pressing the View button next to the track you want. I don't believe this is a bug because the Browse view is not the currently playing playlist. Press the button in the top right of the screen that looks like a Play symbol and it will take you to Playing Now, i.e. the current playlist.
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I meant to come back and report...
I used JRemote EXTENSIVELY on my trip and had zero disconnects (well, except when I lost cell service up near Canada).
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Used JRemote extensively this weekend, with MC 19.0.115 (116 had problems with plugins so I removed it and 117 wasn't out yet when I left). No disconnect issues at all.
As mentioned I do not use the access key method for connecting, but connect directly to my home's WAN address.
Doh. Guess I remembered before I forgot. :-[
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LesPaul,
I use RoomieRemote to automate my HT setup with some specific functions using MC's MCWS. However my main remote for the MC is using JRemote.
After selecting that I want to listen to music, I currently have to exit roomie on my iPad and switch to JRemote. Does JRemote have a handleOpenURL that would launch it from a url opened on the iPad like some other apps which launch when certain urls are opened? With Roomie I have the option to assign a url to a button which I could use to launch another app.
http://handleopenurl.com/ (http://handleopenurl.com/)
Now perfection would be if I could then have JRemote open a url on exit and call Roomie !!!
Just asking as I searched and could not get any hits
Great application and while traveling over the holidays it always impresses people the ease of accessing music and being able to stream it from the house to the other side of the world!
I asked for that a long time ago. It would be great feature to integrate with roomie and another autmation apps. I think Les Paul could add to the settings the option to add at least 3 different buttons and assign them a label and an URL.
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I asked for that a long time ago. It would be great feature to integrate with roomie and another autmation apps. I think Les Paul could add to the settings the option to add at least 3 different buttons and assign them a label and an URL.
You can open JRemote from another app using the url "jremote://"
No parameters are supported at this time.
No problem adding custom buttons to trigger certain URL`s. I would appreciate more details on how such a system should work.
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Sort order in Zones list
Could you make the Zones list sort alphabetically? I have a lot of zones now, basically for different sets of audio settings not just different audio devices, and I've named them in a structured fashion to enable identification. MC sorts them alphabetically in the Playing Now list but JRemote sorts them in a random order. It would make it much easier if they were alphabetic.
I don't mind the current zone being anchored at the top and This Device being at the bottom if that's the convention you want to adopt.
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Any eta on the update that allows Hi Rez playback?
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Just got my iPad Air and purchased this app. I absolutely love it! Much faster and "prettier" than my Android uPnp app. I did have a couple of suggestions though. It would be nice to have a custom title expression like is available in the DLNA section of JRiver (I don't know if you can access that one in JRemote or if JRiver would have to add a custom title expression field to the Gizmo section.) I like to have the disc number, track number, composer last name and then title. Second it would be nice if we could use the entire width of the iPad to show the now playing list and have the cover art accessible via a swipe in from the right and/or a toggle button next to the tags button on top. I have a lot of classical music with some long titles and would like to use the full width of the iPad to get in as much as possible.
Thanks,
John
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JRemote is awesome, I use it all the time, works great!!
I have found some issues though:
1) On my iPhone 4S with iOS 7.1 (also happened with earlier iOS versions) if you double tap a song, it'll play twice, at the same time, one a little behind the other. It's interesting, but I'm guessing this is not a feature... :)
2) The buffering seems to be very short, so if I have poor signal, it'll buffer a second or so at a time and play that. So you end up with a stuttering song. I'd rather have silence, while a 20-30 second buffer fills, than a stuttering song until the buffer catches up. The buffering logic should be such that once the buffer runs out, it waits until it has 20-30 seconds of song before it starts playing again.
Both of these issues are with MC 19.0.121 and the latest JRemote version...
3) It doesn't seem like JRemote has an 'About' button, so I can't report the exact version I'm using...
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JRemote:// is working fine. I integrated it in my Mediola Remote enviroment. Thank you.
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You can open JRemote from another app using the url "jremote://"
No parameters are supported at this time.
No problem adding custom buttons to trigger certain URL`s. I would appreciate more details on how such a system should work.
Hi,
Thanks for replying. I think a great solution would be if the custom buttons are enabled and configured in the settings menu, it would show a new icon on the top bar. If you click this icon, it would show the custom buttons.
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I typically use playlists and use the JRemote app. In playlist mode, I like to click on the album art on the right hand side so that the Ipad displays full page album art. However, when the next track starts to play, the album art does not change (unless of course I manually go back to playlist mode of JRemote and tap the current track's album art). Is there any way that JRemote can be left on the full album art display and have the album art display change when the track changes?
Thanks!
Randy
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Hi,
Just a question, I tried to find information about this prior to purchasing, but it seems there's not an option to download/copy from the MediaCenter server to the iPhone / iPad. Is it possible to add this in the future?
It'd be really useful to be able to load a smart playlist in to my iPhone (like random 100 songs or whatever), and then take the phone out for the day and still be able to play the playlist. It'd be even better if you could later on sync tag changes/info, but I wouldn't mind just being able to access the songs on the phone remotely.
Probably not a priority for the program, but it would be great if it had that capability for me (or if someone knew of another app that could read your smartlists and sync the list to the phone).
I do enjoy the app when connected wirelessly, and find it very fast/friendly to use. So even if there are no intentions of adding a download to phone type feature, I still will be happy with the purchase. It does seem like when a song is selected it copies it to the phone temporarily (I can see the loading bar fill up)... if there were just a way to do that for an entire playlist, and maybe set a custom amount of space to reserve for it to prevent too many songs from being copied over if you only want 1GB or whatever.
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You dont need to put anything on your iOS device. Simply stream that playlist to your device. Set your global IP in server settings.
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But if there's bad signal or you don't want to leave your PC running 24/7 (or eat away your phone's monthly data cap usage), an option to pre-load over wifi would be better. I guess it sounds like a niche feature, but it's a common thing in video apps on iOS... you can stream the video and watch it instantly from a network, or you can load the videos in to the phone from the network and play them locally any time you want. Best of both worlds that way. Obviously streaming video is a lot more data limited when on a phone over LTE, but I think even audio would make a dent on your cap if you streamed ~100 hours a month to your phone or more.
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Not if you have an unlimited plan. NEVER giving that up.
Seriously though. There might be a better (faster and already established) way to sync a playlist to your iPhone
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The sync feature (similar to rdio or spotify sync) would be great, not everyone have unlimited data plan :/.
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And not everyone has broadband that is good enough for streaming. That's why I'm still looking for that perfect Android or iOS media player that is as good as MC for organising and cataloging music, for use when I'mnot at home. Bubbleupnp is probably getting there. Gizmo and JRemote would be perfect for local players because they might be able too hook into MC directly for synching views already set up there as well as playlists and media.
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And not everyone has broadband that is good enough for streaming. That's why I'm still looking for that perfect Android or iOS media player that is as good as MC for organising and cataloging music, for use when I'mnot at home. Bubbleupnp is probably getting there. Gizmo and JRemote would be perfect for local players because they might be able too hook into MC directly for synching views already set up there as well as playlists and media.
This discussion should be in a new thread, but Gizmo has a cache that was added a few months ago. If you start it while you're on your home network, it will quickly download a number of tracks that can be played when you're away or disconnected.
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Aside from the playback controls, are there plans to add library file management/organizational features in the future ?
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New features are always a nice to have.
But I am very happy with the funtionality and usability of the app - as it is at the moment. So please be careful, some of us don't want to lose functionality of anything that is working very perfect! :-)
Just my 2 cents ... now you can add features as much as you want ;)
What I would like: In the contextmenu of an album or a track, a new option like: show cover in full size. While searching for a new album, during playback, it would be a huge benefit :)
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And not everyone has broadband that is good enough for streaming.
Yeah, the speed of my internet at home is 20mbits down but only 2mbits up, is impossible to stream if I have other internet hungry apps running :(. Offline sync is a must have feature!
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Yeah, the speed of my internet at home is 20mbits down but only 2mbits up, is impossible to stream if I have other internet hungry apps running :(. Offline sync is a must have feature!
I have 504kbps down, 256kbps up. Yes, you read the units right!
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This discussion should be in a new thread, but Gizmo has a cache that was added a few months ago. If you start it while you're on your home network, it will quickly download a number of tracks that can be played when you're away or disconnected.
That sounds great. So then this feature I'm looking for actually does exist in the app, indirectly. I don't think it's completely off-topic, as imo it adds functionality to the app I didn't realize exists... if I understand you right, you're saying the app will store any amount of songs (you set Gizmo to 1GB for example) in it, to be played later?
The main drawback would be then the stored songs still could not be accessed without connecting to the server remotely right? Here's a question related directly to JRemote:
Would it be possible to get the app to allow you to played the already cached songs in it without connecting to the server? That way you wouldn't need to have a server... if for example you just had MediaCenter on a laptop that you don't leave running 24/7, you could have your cache set to like 1500 MBs, and it would sync quite a bit of music to the app?
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This is still an issue with latest version:
This option to "switch zone on device when server zone changes" does not make a change set either way.
So, JRemote does not keep up with automated zone changes done by Zone Switch in MC
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This is still an issue with latest version:
This option to "switch zone on device when server zone changes" does not make a change set either way.
So, JRemote does not keep up with automated zone changes done by Zone Switch in MC
That option isn't available yet. The option is "Switch zone on server as well as device".
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Aside from the playback controls, are there plans to add library file management/organizational features in the future ?
Les Paul ( favorite quitarist) ..... Just bringing attention to above question... Thanks
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My apologies if this has already been covered. I did a cursory look and did not find anything on this topic. I'm a newbie to JRiver and JRemote. I just added a Hi Rez category to my audio library in my Mac mini, but I've noticed this does not automatically get "pushed" through to my iPads JRemote app. Is there a setting somewhere to make this occur or is this beyond JRiver/JRemote capability?
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My apologies if this has already been covered. I did a cursory look and did not find anything on this topic. I'm a newbie to JRiver and JRemote. I just added a Hi Rez category to my audio library in my Mac mini, but I've noticed this does not automatically get "pushed" through to my iPads JRemote app. Is there a setting somewhere to make this occur or is this beyond JRiver/JRemote capability?
JRemote uses a different set of views from the desktop application ("Standard View"), it uses the same views as Gizmo and WebGizmo. So you need to go to Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Configure Views for Gizmo and add your category there. Tip: you can choose the option to Add Item from Standard View if it's lready set up in Standard View.
For reference, MC has 4 different and independent view schemes which have to be set up separately.
1. Standard View
2. Theater View
3. DLNA
4. Web Service applications, e.g. Gizmo, Web Gizmo, JRemote.
If you've already added your new category to Gizmo views and it still doesn't appear in JRemote, you may need to restart MC on the Mac and JRemote on your iOS device.
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I've tried to do what you've suggested which I thought was easy enough to follow, but I must be doing something wrong as it still is not showing on my ipad. See the following screen capture:
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I've tried to do what you've suggested which I thought was easy enough to follow, but I must be doing something wrong as it still is not showing on my ipad. See the following screen capture:
Nevermind, I tried quitting MC and app again and it appeared the second time round. Thanks so much....very cool!
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JRemote uses a different set of views from the desktop application ("Standard View"), it uses the same views as Gizmo and WebGizmo. So you need to go to Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Configure Views for Gizmo and add your category there. Tip: you can choose the option to Add Item from Standard View if it's lready set up in Standard View.
For reference, MC has 4 different and independent view schemes which have to be set up separately.
1. Standard View
2. Theater View
3. DLNA
4. Web Service applications, e.g. Gizmo, Web Gizmo, JRemote.
If you've already added your new category to Gizmo views and it still doesn't appear in JRemote, you may need to restart MC on the Mac and JRemote on your iOS device.
The image below shows the view schemes on mine. Is there somewhere I can add the views you are referring to?
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The image below shows the view schemes on mine. Is there somewhere I can add the views you are referring to?
Confusion of terminology!
The views you are seeing in the menu above refer to the UI, i.e.
1. Standard View - the classic media player desktop interface
2. Mini View - a small transport-control interface
3. Display View - full-screen video and images
4. Cover View - large cover art display
Additionally, there is Theater View which is the 10' TV interface, but maybe this is not available yet on the Mac version.
"View" can also mean the browsing hierarchy of menu items, your view into the library. You can therefore customise the views you see in Standard View - but the word "view" in that sentence means two different things!
Numbers 2, 3 and 4 above don't have a library browser, you only browse your library in Standard View, Theater View, on a DLNA device, or on a mobile device - so those four areas have their own sets of customisable library views, which was the list I gave initially.
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Could you make the Zones list sort alphabetically? I have a lot of zones now, basically for different sets of audio settings not just different audio devices, and I've named them in a structured fashion to enable identification. MC sorts them alphabetically in the Playing Now list but JRemote sorts them in a random order. It would make it much easier if they were alphabetic.
I don't mind the current zone being anchored at the top and This Device being at the bottom if that's the convention you want to adopt.
The current implementation of the zones list is done like that to make the zone-linking behavior more intuitive.
So, the current zone must be at the top and the linked zones will then be listed underneath.
No problem sorting the list though, I`ll add that now.
I typically use playlists and use the JRemote app. In playlist mode, I like to click on the album art on the right hand side so that the Ipad displays full page album art. However, when the next track starts to play, the album art does not change (unless of course I manually go back to playlist mode of JRemote and tap the current track's album art). Is there any way that JRemote can be left on the full album art display and have the album art display change when the track changes?
Yes, that would be easy to add, but I would need to give that as a setting.
Its the same issue as with metadata. Some people would get upset if they are looking at the metadata when suddenly it changes because
the next track has started.
What I would like: In the contextmenu of an album or a track, a new option like: show cover in full size. While searching for a new album, during playback, it would be a huge benefit :)
Good idea. I had thought about making the thumbnail a link to the full size image, but that would only work
with the thumbnail view. A better location would be the context menu.
Regarding off-line playback. Yes, that will be done at one time.
I think it would be a good idea to develop this progressively. The first version will probably be pretty basic.
Ability to download an album or list of files and present them in an artist/album format.
I still don`t feel that the local playback engine is a 100%. Lots of crashes and strange behaviour.
So that will need some more work first to make it solid.
Also, the new ios7 version. I am finally strarting to put the final polish on it. It will most likely be released
nest week, or the week after that.
The current version is really starting to look old, so I look forward to give you a more modern look.
I also look forward to start working on new features, instead of revamping old ones.
There are a couple if new features though in the new version though.
One is that you now get a detailed connection summary when a connection fails. This will help you track down the problem, and will also make it easier for me to
help you.
A lot of small fixes are also included. Better list display of audio, video, images and what view is selected as default.
Multi-disc albums are now grouped by disc nr.
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Confusion of terminology!
Because it is confusing, and we don't really have great documentation on it. At one time, long in the past, the Views that show media were called "View Schemes" (which wasn't a great name, but was at least distinct from the others).
I wrote this up just recently, trying to fix that:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/View_Modes
I'm thinking the name that makes the most sense for the other "Views" is Media Views.
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There are a couple if new features though in the new version though....Better list display of audio, video, images and what view is selected as default.
Does this mean that the bug that is affecting the Images and Video views (reverting to list view when it should remain as thumbnail) is not getting fixed in the current version?
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LesPaul, can you tell me which port does jremote uses for wol? I'm trying to achieve that JRemote wols my PC over wan also
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LesPaul, can you tell me which port does jremote uses for wol? I'm trying to achieve that JRemote wols my PC over wan also
The wiki has a topic on Wake on LAN.
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LesPaul, can you tell me which port does jremote uses for wol? I'm trying to achieve that JRemote wols my PC over wan also
It uses port 9
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Lespaul
Any plans for JRemote on Windows Phone?
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Is there a way to use JRemote to "Run Auto Import"? That would be a real boon to me in a few circumstances.
Best,
John
Can I echo this question please? The ability to run auto import from the J remote app would be a huge benefit !
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It uses port 9
I have port 9 of my external address forwarded to my server's private IP address. I can WOL over WAN via apps and tools. But JRemote doesn't work (WOL only works on LAN). Can you add WOL when connecting to a global address? This would allow me to set my server to sleep and wake up if I start JRemote app.
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JRemote perform really nice on my setup, and WoL working is REALLY a plus.
so far nothing to complain about, this is great.
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I have port 9 of my external address forwarded to my server's private IP address. I can WOL over WAN via apps and tools. But JRemote doesn't work (WOL only works on LAN). Can you add WOL when connecting to a global address? This would allow me to set my server to sleep and wake up if I start JRemote app.
Can I Echo this too.
Thanks
SBR
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Hi LesPaul! I hope all is well.
Firstly, thanks again for the best addition to my musical world.
One tiny little request for change.
Can you omit (or change) the icon in Zones for "This Device". The blue arrow is very confusing at it seems to entail that it is the current Zone. I have had 3-4 people, that are also customers of yours, call and ask me why "This Device" is selected when they are choosing a different Zone.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Also, the new ios7 version. I am finally strarting to put the final polish on it. It will most likely be released
nest week, or the week after that.
The current version is really starting to look old, so I look forward to give you a more modern look.
I also look forward to start working on new features, instead of revamping old ones.
There are a couple if new features though in the new version though.
One is that you now get a detailed connection summary when a connection fails. This will help you track down the problem, and will also make it easier for me to
help you.
A lot of small fixes are also included. Better list display of audio, video, images and what view is selected as default.
Multi-disc albums are now grouped by disc nr.
Oh dear, was hoping to get full hi Rez playback in before you moved to ios7...I haven't been bombarding this thread as you'd said previously it was an easy add... :(
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A minor bug report: If I have lyrics stored in a file and use the view button and then the lyrics tab to view them and then I use the view button to move to a different track, the lyrics tab remains highlighted but the data that is displayed is from the default tab. One cannot click on the lyrics tab at this point either and to view the lyrics and click of the metadata button and then the lyrics tab needs to happen.
As an aside, from a user experience point of view I would expect the tab to remain fixed when moving between tracks. So, if you have the lyrics tab to the foreground for one track and then you use the view button to move to another track, the lyrics tab should remain in the fore along with the lyrics display.
Hope that makes sense and thank you for a fantastic feature...just brilliant when the wife's out, although the cat looks scared sometimes!!
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Split Old iPads and JRemote (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=88500.0)
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Sorry if this has been maybe covered somewhere already, but: is there a way to stream MKV files to JRemote?
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I use JRemote to control Media Center 19 going to my receiver/TV via DLNA. When I connect my receiver via DLNA to MC 19 without using JRemote, I can see the album art on my TV. However, when I use JRemote, I can't see the album art on my TV, I can only see the album art on my iphone/iPad. Is there a setting that I can change that will allow me to see the album art on my TV when using JRemote?
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Sorry if this has been maybe covered somewhere already, but: is there a way to stream MKV files to JRemote?
not yet
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I can confirm that this is an issue with JRemote. It should only display images locally when current zone is "This device".
A fix will be included in an upcoming version.
Is this broken again?
Ross
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I keep getting a "Connection Failure" with my JRemote on my iPhone 4S. I had it working for awhile and then it just quit. How do I fix it? How do I find out what IP address I need to enter?
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not yet
Are there plans to do on the fly transcoding for videos to JRemote in the future? I remember that being a very handy function in Gizmo, but I love the UI for JRemote so much more.
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Hi Lespaul,
Also, the new ios7 version. I am finally strarting to put the final polish on it. It will most likely be released
nest week, or the week after that.
The latest JRemote Version 2.43 is a long time ago (30.10.13) and ios8 will comming soon. Wating for some killerfeatures like full playlistediting. have you got a new roadmap for all the fetatures the users waiting for?
Thanks Erwin
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The new version was submitted to the app store last night.
Sorry about the delay, but there is always something to fix.
Don`t expect any new killer features in this release. I guess the biggest new feature is the detailed server connection summary. Boring I know, but should be useful when you experience connection issues.
There are some smaller changes. For example, the bottom playlist have been moved to the right side. You now swipe in from the right side to reveal the playlist. Also, there are dedicated WOL buttons next to each saved server.
Now, when this is finally out the door you can expect more rapid releases.
The first version after this will include adding tracks to any playlist. I guess this is the most requested feature at this time.
Other things planned is a revamp of the theater remote. It may not be used by many, but it has not been touched for a long time.
Getting video transcoding to work is also high on my list for the next version. I also want to include the whole search wizard options, but that will be in a later release.
And finally, since a lot of code and design have changed in this release I expect there to be issues, complaints etc. I may start a new thread when the
version is live in the app store.
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Can I echo this question please? The ability to run auto import from the J remote app would be a huge benefit !
It is included in the new version as a new button under settings.
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The new version was submitted to the app store last night.
Can you confirm what's happening with the current version? Is it compeletely dead now and the bugs reported previously will not be fixed?
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I am not sure at this moment what to do with the iOS6 version.
It is currently not possible to upload versions that is not compiled for iOS7, and it`s not possible to update an older version.
A possibility would be to release a new app called JRemote for iOS6. The problem of course, is that I would have to charge something for it, although less than the main version.
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But you've already uploaded a new version compiled for iOS7, therefore that's "overwritten" the current version and it can't be updated any more?
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The app store now works like this:
If you download an app where your iOS version is not supported, you may choose to download the last version that supported your OS.
This is an improvement in my opinion, but if they do not allow updating these older versions.
In order for an app to be compiled for iOS7 you need to make a lot of changes, as I have now done for the new version.
Actually, I could possibly work on the current version to make it compatible with iOS6, but not iOS5. It will be quite a bit of work though.
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It is currently not possible to upload versions that is not compiled for iOS7, and it`s not possible to update an older version.
Has this restriction been put in very recently? BBC iPlayer is still compatible with iOS5.1 and that was last updated on 2nd April. Temple Run 2 was last updated on 15th April and is compatible with iOS4.3. Wouldn't it have been a better idea to fix the bugs outstanding for years in JRemote and requested many times as a matter of urgency rather than ploughing ahead with an iOS7 version?
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In order for an app to be compiled for iOS7 you need to make a lot of changes, as I have now done for the new version.
Have you seen this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19211056/can-i-build-an-app-that-runs-on-ios-5-1-and-ios-7-in-the-respective-native-look (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19211056/can-i-build-an-app-that-runs-on-ios-5-1-and-ios-7-in-the-respective-native-look)
I'm not an iOS developer at all but this sounds like you can compile an app with the latest SDK (Xcode5) and set the target iOS as 5.1, and you get native look-and-feel on all iOSs. Since February, Apple is forcing apps to be developed with XCode5. It sounds like it's a deliberate choice you've made to target iOS 7 and use iOS 7-specific features, not one that Apple is forcing on you.
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Hello Lespaul,
The new version was submitted to the app store last night.
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The first version after this will include adding tracks to any playlist. I guess this is the most requested feature at this time.
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very good news!
I can well imagine that it was a lot of work. Are you the only developer and simultaneously the head of JRemote?
I wish you good luck with the rollout of JRemote IOS7!
Thanks Erwin
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The new version was submitted to the app store last night.
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Great News, I like to suggest again, that since your commitment is high for development of new features, you could offer these features within purchase in app. I strongly believe, that you should have our support to this effort. Keep up the good work and the enhancement of the excellent application you offer to us.
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Can't wait to get the new version!!
Can you start a new thread for the new version so that new and old version threads will be separated?
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So far so good with the new version - it looks and works great on my iPhone 4S... Many thanks!
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Images will only play on 'This Device' regardless of what zone you select. This bug was fixed a while ago but has re-emerged.
Ross
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I don't think this was ever fixed. Look at page 12 of this thread - our discussion there from November 2013. I think the last update to JRemote was October.
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Are there plans to get video streaming working?
I'm using an app from a competitor at the moment but would prefer JRemote as it's so much better integrated with MC.
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Nice looking upgrade!
I have a lot of zones. Scrolling down the zones doesn't "Stick" on both iPad and iPhone. The scroll list bounces back to the top before you can make a selection. I have a temporary fix for the moment which is that I have renamed the zones I generally use so they show up at the top of the list, but for some this may not be an option
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JRemote is the one app that is making me think hard on my next phone. I see
nothing comparable on the other platforms.
Aside from that I have problems streaming 96k/24bit flac files over 17 min long.
JRemote just quits. It does it every time. Not sure if this is a limitation of my
32meg Ipad 2 or is fixable.
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I just upgraded to Mavericks on my mac mini and my JRemote is no longer "seeing" JRiver on my mini. Anyone having this issue or know of a solution?
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Great update as always LesPaul.
Cheers!
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Lespaul;
Thank you for the great update. The GUI is very fast on my iPad2. I just wish you could kindly consider the followings for the next version.
- The new shortcut to easily reach to the “now playing” list with left swipe action is very handy. However when the pdf booklet of an album is open (inside JRemote) this future does not work. It is not possible to quickly check, for instance, the track number of the song which is playing when reading its booklet. You need to close the pdf booklet, check the list and then re-search for the associated booklet and re-open it to resume reading. If the left swipe action could work when the pdf files are open, that would be really great for me.
- Is it possible to create a shortcut button which directly finds the related folder of the playing track and lists the pdf files in that folder? I believe this is the easiest way to reach to the pdf booklets.
- The sampling rate in “now playing” view should be written as 88.2 not 88200 for consistency.
Thanks again and congratulations.
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Came across an interesting crash with the new Version 3.0 that does not occur with the previous version.
If the zone that is active in JRemote has a playlist item that is live://loopback it crashes instantly.
This is easy to reproduce, as soon as I add the playlist with the item live://loopback using JRemote it crashes. I have to remove it from the zone before I can launch JRemote again without crashing as it opens and establishes connection with MC
Using MC19.128
Any ideas?
Edit> never mind, should read all the threads on JRemote . I see it is already known and fixed in new release submitted to Apple. Cool beans!!!
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How do I go about getting JRemote to show playlist every time? Success rate for me less than 50%
TIA
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hey guys.... move your comments to the new thread.
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=89108.0
-Patrick