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Title: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 06, 2014, 04:33:02 pm
'nMedium Play' is the latest remote control software for Windows Phone and J River Media Center.
'nMedium Play' is the first Windows Phone app which supports playback of any of your media files on your phone.

nMedium Play: Your media - anywhere you are

You can see the details of nMedium here (http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appId=b43ec7af-cc82-4dee-af94-9cf44a4dc8d3).

With nMedium Play you can:


nMedium Play free to try for 20 days!

(http://cdn.marketplaceimages.windowsphone.com/v8/images/cb52f326-2db1-4e4f-8e7b-702d0d764a14?imageType=ws_screenshot_small&rotation=0) (http://cdn.marketplaceimages.windowsphone.com/v8/images/97baf7f3-4feb-46b4-a887-ffc777092b28?imageType=ws_screenshot_small&rotation=0) (http://cdn.marketplaceimages.windowsphone.com/v8/images/cd75ce48-2703-4384-a98d-6889f2a0eb6d?imageType=ws_screenshot_small&rotation=0)

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: JimH on February 06, 2014, 04:36:31 pm
Thanks for your work on this and best of luck with it!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 06, 2014, 04:41:02 pm
Quote from: JimH on February 06, 2014, 04:36:31 pm
Thanks for your work on this and best of luck with it!

Thanks Jim! And thanks to your team for making all the API's available to make this a possibility.

Still hoping for a better video playback experience (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=84308.0) for my users, but hopefully someone is looking at it...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on February 06, 2014, 07:14:17 pm
It is a great piece of software! The new version looks much better (cleaner) than the previous (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=70793.0) did and it offers the ability to play files from my library on my phone which is really cool 8 ) Phone playback worked VERY well for me! I had no problems with switching between apps while nMedium was playing my files. Resuming the app is fast enough and works reliable. Controlling nMediums Phone Playback using the Windows Phone audio control (in volume adjustment panel) also works.

Controlling MC using the app is as good as it was before. One new thing I like very much: the ability to jump back to Playing View from ANY library view with one tap. The previous version of nMedium required to hit back several times to get to Playing View. Only a small thing but big impact.

@GrantDG:
You perhaps should use the international link for windows phone store in your first post: http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appId=b43ec7af-cc82-4dee-af94-9cf44a4dc8d3. Using the link you provided only works in Australia because it contains the country code www .windowsphone.com/en-au/store/app/nmedium-play/b43ec7af-cc82-4dee-af94-9cf44a4dc8d3. Outside Australia you get the error message that the app is not available and you should look up in your phone. Clicking the link, you'll be guided to the right location, but using the other link would be a few clicks faster.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 06, 2014, 10:21:47 pm
Quote from: StFeder on February 06, 2014, 07:14:17 pm
@GrantDG:
You perhaps should use the international link for windows phone store in your first post:

@StFeder: Thanks for the comments - and link updated!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Krunchy on February 07, 2014, 05:04:53 am
can't find it in the windows store (France/belgium)
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 07, 2014, 06:18:13 am
Quote from: Krunchy on February 07, 2014, 05:04:53 am
can't find it in the windows store (France/belgium)

There's a slight setback with the release - will update when we're back on track (a day or 2 I'm hoping - Microsoft are testing it now)!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 10, 2014, 02:31:16 pm
nMedium Play is once again available on the store...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Bengi010 on February 14, 2014, 07:36:44 pm
Is it possible to use nmedium or nmedium play as a remote for a client?  I have been able to play content on my phone or on my server pc but I have not been able to configure it to play content to my htpc witch is set up as a client to the pc server.  Is that an option I'm missing?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 14, 2014, 10:29:16 pm
Quote from: Bengi010 on February 14, 2014, 07:36:44 pm
Is it possible to use nmedium or nmedium play as a remote for a client?  I have been able to play content on my phone or on my server pc but I have not been able to configure it to play content to my htpc witch is set up as a client to the pc server.  Is that an option I'm missing?

Hi there,

There's 2 possible solutions I can see for your needs, the choice of which which will depend on your client PC setup.
Now, I'm assuming that you have J River on your 'server' and that it is that one that you are connecting to with nMedium? I'm also assuming that my 'remote control' you are only talking about media control...

(1)
If you have J River installed on your 'client' - you can set up your client J River to act as a 'DLNA Renderer' (Options > Media Network > Use Media Network... > Advanced > check 'DLNA Renderer').
If you don't have J River on the client, and you are running Windows 8, you can configure the client as a DLNA renderer through Windows 8 (http://techcurrents.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/tip-playing-media-to-your-windows-8-from-another-dlna-server/).

On your server, you need to configure J River as a DLNA controller (Options > Media Network > Use Media Network... > Advanced > check 'DLNA Controller')
Though the magic of DLNA, your server J River installation should now be able to see your client as a 'Zone' - any zones that appear in J River will appear in nMedium.

I must admit, I have never used this setup, so I'm not sure if the DLNA protocol allows tagging/rating files to a renderer...

(2)
If you do have J River on your client, you can also configure Media Network on that; and then add a second server in nMedium (via the settings screen).

Although nMedium does support multiple servers, it's a little clunky at the moment (currently there's a bug that changing servers requires a restart of nMedium).

If this option 2 is the best for you, I'll do some work on making multi server support a little more streamlined (I can probably add the multiple servers into the Zone selector which will make it all very simple to switch).


Let me know how you go!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Bengi010 on February 16, 2014, 10:17:00 am
I'm going to play around with option 1 for now.  So far I'm having trouble getting my server to see my htpc as a zone.  I just don't see an option to link to it at all, but I'll keep playing. 

Option 2 sounds like it would work but, correct me if I'm wrong, it would mean I'd be running my htpc as a separate server so that I can connect nmedium to it.  That would make updating the library a real headache... basically negates all the benefits of using a server/client setup. 

And to clarify my setup.  I run JRiver MC 19 on both the server and htpc client.  I use the desktop server to maintain the library, it is connected to my external hard drives where I keep all the media files.  The htpc runs MC19 as a client.  It is running windows 8 and the server windows 7 if that makes any difference.  I use the htpc for movies/tv and the desktop for music. 

I would ideally like to be able to control both from nmedium, I could then use my phone as a remote for either video or music. 

Another separate request.  I just bought a tablet (Dell venue 8) that runs Windows 8 pro.  I was hoping to use it as the htpc remote.  I probably still can using remote desktop or webgizmo, but I was hoping to use nmedium.  I didn't realize it's a phone only app at the time.  Would it be possible for you to make a windows 8 app?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from you server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 16, 2014, 04:27:41 pm
Quote from: Bengi010 on February 16, 2014, 10:17:00 am
Option 2 sounds like it would work but, correct me if I'm wrong, it would mean I'd be running my htpc as a separate server so that I can connect nmedium to it.  That would make updating the library a real headache... basically negates all the benefits of using a server/client setup.  

How are you connecting your 'client' and your 'server'? If you are going via 'Library Server' - your changes can be automatically synchronised (and are by default), so updates happen auto-magically. Your client can quite happily work as a server in this manner.

Quote from: Bengi010 on February 16, 2014, 10:17:00 am
Another separate request.  I just bought a tablet (Dell venue 8) that runs Windows 8 pro.  I was hoping to use it as the htpc remote.  I probably still can using remote desktop or webgizmo, but I was hoping to use nmedium.  I didn't realize it's a phone only app at the time.  Would it be possible for you to make a windows 8 app?

I do have a vague long term plan to make a Win 8 App version of nMedium - but it's a massive amount of work, and currently my gains out of nMedium are zilch.

You can always install full J River on your Tablet (since it's a Pro version) and connect to your other computers via Library Server. J River is a bit of a dog to use via touch, but it *can* be done.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 21, 2014, 04:37:33 pm
nMedium Play 2.0.7.0 has been released to the store.

This version add a completely revised first-time start-up process, and completely reworks server setup.

It also adds the ability to connect via a fully qualified domain name (in addition to the previous Access Key and IP address connections)
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Dirhael on February 22, 2014, 09:09:17 am
The latest version crashes consistently when trying to add a server. This happens no matter if I try to setup using an access key, or ip:port. Tried with and without username+password on my server. Sent you an error report using this built-in functionality in your app. I had no problems with the previously released version.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on February 22, 2014, 11:25:06 am
Hello

Très sympa.

Installed few minutes ago  Doing what I can but I sure won't be a serious beta tester.
With MC17.x / Nokia 520 WP8 Release 3 LumiaBlack ,  nMedium Play works for music and MP4 HD720 my main concern - not 100% but works -
nMedium has good connectivity as a Server Playback only testing on Wifi Lan/Home.

TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 22, 2014, 06:33:30 pm
Quote from: Dirhael on February 22, 2014, 09:09:17 am
Sent you an error report using this built-in functionality in your app.

Hi there, sorry to hear you're having troubles. I received 2 error reports this morning - not sure which one is yours. Can you send me a PM on here, of via the 'feedback/support' link on the about page of nMedium - I'd like to chat about your issues
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 22, 2014, 06:36:11 pm
Quote from: TCube on February 22, 2014, 11:25:06 am

Installed few minutes ago  Doing what I can but I sure won't be a serious beta tester.
With MC17.x / Nokia 520 WP8 Black,  nMedium Play works for music and MP4 HD720 my main concern - not 100% but works -
nMedium has good connectivity as a Server Playback only testing on Wifi Lan/Home.


Technically, nMedium only supports MC 18 and above. With 17, most functions will work, but you may experience crashes with nMedium if it tries to access functionality that doesn't exist in 17.

Video playback is generally an issue between J River and Windows Phone, as the 'on demand' video profiles that J River support and the ones that WP can play have an overlap of a single type. It works, but I agree that it's not the best experience.

I'm keeping up my investigations...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Dirhael on February 22, 2014, 08:42:18 pm
Quote from: GrantDG on February 22, 2014, 06:33:30 pm
Hi there, sorry to hear you're having troubles. I received 2 error reports this morning - not sure which one is yours. Can you send me a PM on here, of via the 'feedback/support' link on the about page of nMedium - I'd like to chat about your issues

Sure thing, I received an email from you and just replied :) I actually sent you 2 error reports, from 2 different phones (from my Nokia Lumia 920, and Nokia Lumia 1520) so I suppose they could both be from me.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: stevem87 on February 28, 2014, 09:30:33 am
First of all, big thanks to Grant for this AP. It is really awesome to finally have this for my Windows phone. Grant has been extremely responsive and helpful to get some issues that I was having resolved.

One of the problems that I was having involved the application not launching correctly, which we figured was an IP problem. After some careful analysis, I am pretty sure that my JRiver access key was given to more than one computer. Here's what I wrote in another post:

"OK, the key itself was definitely the problem. Now that I reset the key and got a new one, the problem is gone. When the problem did occur, the access key reported a specific internal and external IP address that wasn't mine. Because the problem happened intermittently, my guess is the other owner of that key started and stopped his server at different times. I also would guess that he didn't have an open port on his router which is why I would just get an error message and not a request for credentials."

I really hope that someone address this problem, I am sure that I am not the only one that this has happened to.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on February 28, 2014, 09:35:05 am
I till now only use nMedium inside "my" (W)LAN using just the access key to log in. May the described problem apply to this setup, too or is this only true for the usage over the internet?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: stevem87 on February 28, 2014, 01:19:01 pm
Actually it would affect both. My access key was sporadically grabbing a different internal and external IP address, but it was always the same wrong address which is why I believe it was owned by someone else too.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on February 28, 2014, 11:28:45 pm
Quote from: stevem87 on February 28, 2014, 09:30:33 am
First of all, big thanks to Grant for this AP. It is really awesome to finally have this for my Windows phone. Grant has been extremely responsive and helpful to get some issues that I was having resolved.

One of the problems that I was having involved the application not launching correctly, which we figured was an IP problem. After some careful analysis, I am pretty sure that my JRiver access key was given to more than one computer.

Thanks for the compliments and feedback - and thank you for being willing to do this investigation with myself and J River! It's been most helpful in troubleshooting a problem which I just never saw.

I'll add this detail into the help pages I'm building on my website - I'm sure it will help others too!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 04, 2014, 02:28:27 am
Hello,

Nmedium Play is worth the buy and upgrading MC to the latest too.
Tested on 2 different laptops : MC17 with NMedium (couch potato use) and MC19 trial version with NMedium Play (upward mobile user). Fantastic !
Thks 4 the support by the way.

TC

(*) Music only, but that's all I need, I don't want my bills sky rocketing.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 04, 2014, 07:04:05 pm
Version 2.1 of nMedium Play has been released to the store... lots of updates and enhancements in this release

Local playback

Images

General
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on March 05, 2014, 03:40:16 am
This was the update I was waiting for :)
Quote from: GrantDG on March 04, 2014, 07:04:05 pm
Local playback
  • Added support for all of the 'track add' options as when playing back on the server (play now, play next, etc)
  • Added support for all of the 'current playlist edit' options as when playing back on the server (skip to here, remove, etc)
Now I bought it! I hadn't the time to test all the new things but what I can say after playing around with the interface a bit: it is getting better in every respect. All the last updates raised the fun and ease of using nMedium (Play) and brought very useful features.

Thanks GrantDG for this one!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 07, 2014, 04:43:17 am
Hello,

I wonder - this may be stupid from my beginner's experience.
Knowing my configuration (multiple PC servers) I thought it would be nice to have the Port mentioned while trying to connect. Users may know instantly their WAN/LAN/DLNA "Current Server" and then try to change the "Current Server" instead of "Server Inaccessible" ---> "Go to Setup".
Otherwise (much later) it's my intention to use NO-IP redirect for different servers (*)

TC

* Names + no-ip.org/info
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 07, 2014, 02:47:06 pm
Quote from: TCube on March 07, 2014, 04:43:17 am
Knowing my configuration (multiple PC servers) I thought it would be nice to have the Port mentioned while trying to connect. Users may know instantly their WAN/LAN/DLNA "Current Server" and then try to change the "Current Server" instead of "Server Inaccessible" ---> "Go to Setup".
Otherwise (much later) it's my intention to use NO-IP redirect for different servers.

TC


Hi TC,

I think I get the gist of what you're asking - when nMedium starts up, and it cannot connect to the current server - if the user has more than 1 server set up, allow the user to select another server to connect to, rather than going to the server setup page?

I can certainly show the port number during connection.

G
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 07, 2014, 04:02:06 pm
Hi all,

Just had someone (username: Bruce) review nMedium Play on the store saying they could not connect to their J River instance. This is a pretty fundamental issue, and may be related to duplicate access key...

I'd be happy to work through the issue with them, but the store provides no way to contact a user.

If Bruce sees this message, please send me a PM on here!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 09, 2014, 04:52:43 am
Hello,

I'm sorry Grant but I'm getting frantic with this, all is left is one more week to test.
Some questions to make on multiple Server connections.

- So as to the above : Yes, unless the use of no-IP redirect, port N# would be fine,
- Related : please check if Server N#1 does not respond we'll go to "General Settings" and be able to switch and connect with a Server N#2,
- It will be nice after adding a Server upon the "Settings" menu, NMedium Play wouldn't try to "Save changes" and "Connecting to Server" in an single operation (this is painful if the added Server is off-line, "Save" is made impossible).
- Hum ... I don't really understand "Access Key" versus "IP:Port" ... is "Access Key" mandatory is some cases ? (i.e : "using MC access keys, there is no requirement for an internet DNS entry").

TC

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 09, 2014, 05:44:18 pm
Hi TC,

I'll start with the last point first

Quote from: TCube on March 09, 2014, 04:52:43 am
- Hum ... I don't really understand "Access Key" versus "IP:Port" ... is "Access Key" mandatory is some cases ? (i.e : "using MC access keys, there is no requirement for an internet DNS entry").

An Access key is a way for  J River to track a dynamic IP address. When you have set up your MC with an access key, your MC instance/s will regularly send information to the J River servers to let them know your current IP addresses (both internet and LAN)

When you start up nMedium, and you have set up your server with an Access key, nMedium will contact J River ("Getting addresses for access key...") and will get back your current IP addresses. Once it has these, it tries to connect to the IP's all at the same time ("Attempting connection to: ..."). The address that responds the fastest is set up as the IP address that nMedium will continue to use until it is shut down.

Access keys always resolve to an IP address - and using an access key makes the need to a dynamic IP address system like No-IP redundant (as a matter of fact, Access keys are better as they also track a LAN IP address).

Access keys are the recommended (but not required) method of using nMedium, as they can respond to changes in your server's IP address/es without having to change your server setup.
Using a IP:port / FQDN:port setup is only recommended if you have fully static internet and LAN IP addresses - as it does away with the step of going to J RIver to get your current IP addresses. This will speed up start-up, but after this, all operation is the same.

Quote from: TCube on March 09, 2014, 04:52:43 am
- Related : please check if Server N#1 does not respond we'll go to "General Settings" and be able to switch and connect with a Server N#2,

I'll actually add a button to the "Could not connect" screen, which will ask if you want to try another server. This will be in the version after next (2.3.1) - 2.3 is going for certification today

Quote from: TCube on March 09, 2014, 04:52:43 am
- It will be nice after adding a Server upon the "Settings" menu, NMedium Play wouldn't try to "Save changes" and "Connecting to Server" in an single operation (this is painful if the added Server is off-line, "Save" is made impossible).

I'll have a look at this - not quite sure what you mean but I'll go over the code...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 21, 2014, 06:28:57 pm
nMedium Play version 2.2. has been released to the store.

Changes in this version:

- Library browsing speed has been increased
- Add some extra helper buttons/actions to track and image view screens
- Server setup / connection provides more details about the server you are connecting to
- In a multi-server setup, if connecting to a server fails, you will be asked to connect to another server
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 22, 2014, 04:22:13 am
Hello Grant,

Would You please check if the upgrade is available in Europe (France) . Did get an update this morning through WP8 store on Wifi : didn't work with new "server" screens.
So I tried "re install" through Laptop and WP8 connected on USB but it won't dl at all this time  - very strange but situation is similar with any other apps too has something to do with available memory I guess my WP .
Thus I had to try a "fresh" free NMedium install  : it looks very good with multiple servers !

TC

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 22, 2014, 04:28:20 am
.../... error can't delete. Sorry.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on March 23, 2014, 04:48:01 pm
With the latest Update nMedium is completely broken. It doesn't connect to my server. If I try to verify my user name and password (by hitting the small arrow in the password field) nMedium shows a message to send an eMail after encountering a problem but after yes the screen where I should select my eMail-Account freezes.

Re-Installing didn't help.

edit: I learned to wait. After a short time the eMail appears. After waiting some more time there appears an message which tells me "Server inaccessible" and that I have not configured any server to connect to.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 23, 2014, 05:21:41 pm
Quote from: StFeder on March 23, 2014, 04:48:01 pm

edit: I learned to wait. After a short time the eMail appears. After waiting some more time there appears an message which tells me "Server inaccessible" and that I have not configured any server to connect to.

And yet you got past the address stage? hmmm...

Some ideas:

Are you sure your password is correct (tho nMedium should handle it if it's not)?
Maybe try to turn of authentication on the server for a test?
Can you maybe try to generate a new Access Key or go via an IP address?

A thought: when you enter your address and nMedium validates it, does it present the name of your server?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on March 23, 2014, 06:15:05 pm
Quote from: GrantDG on March 23, 2014, 05:21:41 pm
Are you sure your password is correct (tho nMedium should handle it if it's not)?
I am :)

Quote from: GrantDG on March 23, 2014, 05:21:41 pm
Maybe try to turn of authentication on the server for a test?
I did, nothing changes.

Quote from: GrantDG on March 23, 2014, 05:21:41 pm
Can you maybe try to generate a new Access Key
I did, no changes.

Quote from: GrantDG on March 23, 2014, 05:21:41 pm
go via an IP address?
I'm not absolutly sure if I did it right (where do I find the IP-Adress needed here?), but what I tried didn't work.

Quote from: GrantDG on March 23, 2014, 05:21:41 pm
A thought: when you enter your address and nMedium validates it, does it present the name of your server?
No.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on March 23, 2014, 06:16:14 pm
I just tried it again and it worked like nothing ever happened. I don't know what could have been changed since my last try because I didn't touch anything... Thanks for listening!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on April 02, 2014, 04:16:46 am
Hello,

I'm being candid. Why is there a need to process video files ?
Context :
- I'm not using any vid readers from the Store I'm just being careful to have vid files compatible with the basic phone (WMP / but mostly MP4) and that from various software I use (Camtasia/Digital camera/Dl/ etc.)

I check this WE from outside Wifi both through JRiver versus my Home Server on my Nokia and it just doesn't make it with NMedium.

Thks.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on April 02, 2014, 03:59:38 pm
Quote from: TCube on April 02, 2014, 04:16:46 am
Hello,

I'm being candid. Why is there a need to process video files ?
Context :
- I'm not using any vid readers from the Store I'm just being careful to have vid files compatible with the basic phone (WMP / but mostly MP4) and that from various software I use (Camtasia/Digital camera/Dl/ etc.)

I check this WE from outside Wifi both through JRiver versus my Home Server on my Nokia and it just doesn't make it with NMedium.

Thks.

I understand your pain...

Windows Phone only supports one video format which can be output by JRiver - and that is MP4 (currently).

There are 3 'qualities' of MP4 which JRiver can output (Low, Medium, High). When nMedium requests a video file (the quality is selectable in nMedium settings), JRiver will look in its video cache for a file which meets the requested quality, if it doesn't exist, JRiver will re-encode the requested file, put it in the cache and then serve it up.

Once a file has been encoded, it should not need to be re-encoded again (given the same requested quality) and playback will start quickly


You can find your video re-encoding cache by going (in JRiver) to: Tools > Options > File location > Conversion Cache > Video

You may have a look in the cache to see the profile of the re-encoded video, and see if you can match that in your base files? Thos I'm not sure if JRiver will not still want to re-encode the file.

I've been trying to get traction on this issue with JRiver for months (see http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=84308.0 (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=84308.0))

I am investigating other options, but there is a certain amount of disconnect between WP and JRiver on this one...

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on April 03, 2014, 07:51:37 am
Hello Grant,

Thks for your explanations !  

I won't be much support for you requesting better implementation of MP4 within JRiver specs. As I wrote, for vids,  I'll be connecting my WP8 through my home server.

Nonetheless JRiver have to seriously look HOW they are handling these MP4 vid files. I did make some "experiments" as you gave clues from where to go.

Seems to me as a brilliant mess ... a "Cathedral's Bazaar" ... a "chick wouldn't find her rubberduckies"   ... and some questions did pop-out.

- Why using a ISOM codec ? a compatible ? (MPEG-4 Part 12 compatible versus MP42 standard),
- Isom Codec isn't even readable by the most spread out free software  (I tried digging "viewing" within JRiver's cache),
- How will the user with two different smart phones (for instance a 520/1020) will choose to handle between Low/Medium/High definitions ? not knowing if the  right file is stacked ?
- Even so the above point it would mean stacking 3 times the same vid file : 1 original, 2 copies and as you said it's ridiculous regarding the process time taken from one CPU (re-encode is an hungry beast,  convert one all JRiver vid. library x2 times per file it's unthinkable),
- Even so if you did anyway for a few, how would the end user be able to choose the right file on Wifi or on Phone Network ? As you wrote NMedium+ provides for this, where you can set up the quality required directly from WP8, thus whether or Wifi or Phone Network the user will have to wait until JRiver accepts the request = basically the user configures the distant server and waits for the answer, easy does it with PhP but just nuts with JRiver MC)
- .../...

Well, JRiver was never my best option for Vid. and I'll stick by my opinion.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on April 03, 2014, 03:57:38 pm
Henri,

The 'quality' is more about the size of the file being sent across the network, which may be especially important in metered (Telco) situations.

I just realised/remembered this morning that JRiver does support an option to send the file without re-encoding (that relies on a file being in a supported format - which it sound like you have).

I'll add that option into the next release
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on April 04, 2014, 05:11:16 am
Hello Grant,

Quote from: GrantDG on April 03, 2014, 03:57:38 pm
I just realised/remembered this morning that JRiver does support an option to send the file without re-encoding (that relies on a file being in a supported format - which it sound like you have).
I'll add that option into the next release

Now you are talking.
If you release this, do U 've any idea how this may boost the Windows 8 Tablets dongle with JRiver MC for home use ?
Heh, why not for me... not really kidding here, this would mean "instant vid. replay" while over Wifi !!!
TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on April 04, 2014, 06:09:40 pm
Quote from: TCube on April 04, 2014, 05:11:16 am
If you release this, do U 've any idea how this may boost the Windows 8 Tablets dongle with JRiver MC for home use ?
Heh, why not for me... not really kidding here, this would mean "instant vid. replay" while over Wifi !!!

Hi again,

I think something has gotten lost in translation - I'm not sure what your question means...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on April 05, 2014, 12:35:59 am
Forget it  ;)

Sorry I was thinking about something else at the same time.

I received a new offer from an Internet provider to switch from FTTLA to FTTH with a 3 month at no charge and a 100 euros coupon purchase thus my post about Windows 8 tablets.
It was never in my intention to stream a 2h movie to a smart phone but now "instant streaming" from JRiver with a Tablet ... Do I get it all wrong or not ?  :P   anyway, I could get along with that.

Anyway "send the file without re-encoding" is cool and really opens up streaming WMV/MP4 short vids to WP8.
TC

EDIT : there is a simple way to find out about a supported Vid format by using Windows Phone on PC. If you want to stack some Vid on a SD Card for instance it will ask for the user to accept a re-encode process if ever the vid file isn't supported by the phone.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on April 16, 2014, 05:16:43 pm
nMedium Play version 2.2.1 has been released to the store

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on April 18, 2014, 05:34:08 am
Hello Grant,

Thks for your dedication and for Option N° 4  setting - with a reasonable Wifi Dl speed (33 Mbps home ATM) on Wp8 vid viewing is VERY enjoyable : start is instantaneous, forward / backward with no delay whatever the size of the file. Awesome !

TC

Edit : Set your DLNA on port 80 or 8080 so U won't suffer from U'r ISP limitation caps from diff. / restricted unusual "ports" use.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Dirhael on April 30, 2014, 08:10:04 pm
Quote from: GrantDG on February 22, 2014, 06:33:30 pm
Quote from: Dirhael on February 22, 2014, 08:42:18 pm
Sure thing, I received an email from you and just replied :) I actually sent you 2 error reports, from 2 different phones (from my Nokia Lumia 920, and Nokia Lumia 1520) so I suppose they could both be from me.
Hi there, sorry to hear you're having troubles. I received 2 error reports this morning - not sure which one is yours. Can you send me a PM on here, of via the 'feedback/support' link on the about page of nMedium - I'd like to chat about your issues


Purchased yet another smartphone (what can I say, I love gadgets), got playing around with it for a while and forgot to post how your update fared. I'm happy to say that at this point, I have no problems with your app. Great work! :)
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: stevem87 on May 15, 2014, 02:36:07 pm
Hey Grant, I am still getting a lot of drop out as I am driving around. Wasn't sure if this might be a buffering issue or not.
Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on May 15, 2014, 06:33:04 pm
Quote from: stevem87 on May 15, 2014, 02:36:07 pm
I am still getting a lot of drop out as I am driving around.

nMedium only queues tracks to the Windows Phone Audio API. After being queued, the phone handles getting the tracks for playback. I (or any WP developer) have little control over the the way the phone downloads the tracks - but I will say that it does require a reasonably stable internet connection.

If you're looking for software that can download playback files in a batch to your phone, check out the "MC Partner" app; it's a little clunky (and I have not been able to have it connect to my server when I'm outside my LAN), but may be a solution for you...

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on May 19, 2014, 02:22:27 am
Hello,

Just a "ease of use" question. When I want SD Card reading only i have the choice between the standard WP player & Nokia Mix for music only when I'm "off line".
Would it be tricky/impossible to also use NMedium Play off-line just for SDCards ?
Thks
TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on May 19, 2014, 03:34:52 am
Quote from: TCube on May 19, 2014, 02:22:27 am
Would it be tricky/impossible to also use NMedium Play off-line just for SDCards ?

nMedium does not currently support off-line playback - maybe in the future, but no time-frame (or promise) at the moment.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on May 23, 2014, 06:42:42 am
By the way for all Windows Phone users, if you need to do a "reset" of your phone [unknown "Other files" clustering the memory] you better have your SD Card playlists saved with JRiver MC for future sync. with WP.
Files on your SD card won't be flush out but "Playlists" will after a "phone reset".
Thus, if you keep your playlists within MC19, it will be extremely quick after a "reset' : just re-building the tables for Playlists and will not "copying" again any files.
TC

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: JimH on May 23, 2014, 07:22:42 am
TCube,
Please use you and your as they are spelled.  u and u're make the posts harder to read.  

Thanks.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on May 23, 2014, 10:53:45 am
Sorry got carried away listening Tricky's give away 54U  ;D
http://www.trickysite.com/trickys-new-5-track-giveaway/ (http://www.trickysite.com/trickys-new-5-track-giveaway/)
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on May 31, 2014, 08:32:10 pm
nMedium Play version 2.3 has been released to the store.

This version adds the ability to save the 'playing now' list as a playlist on the server
There's also a few bug fixes and stability irovements
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Doof on June 05, 2014, 05:28:33 pm
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but I have been unable to get this to actually play anything. I can browse my library just fine, and I can control playback on my PC, so I know communication's working, but whenever I try to play anything to my phone I just get an application error. I sent in an error report but unfortunately I think I'm close to end of my trial period so I'm not sure how much time I've left to determine if this is going to work for me before justifying a purchase. :(
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on June 05, 2014, 06:22:12 pm
Quote from: Doof on June 05, 2014, 05:28:33 pm
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but I have been unable to get this to actually play anything.

I've sent a reply message to your email address from the error report.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Doof on June 05, 2014, 07:07:38 pm
Thanks for the quick reply. I just replied to your email. Quick summary, still no go. But I put it on my wife's phone too (same issue) so I at least have another 20 days to test it out.

Honestly, even if I can't get nMedium Play to work, I'll buy nMedium just for the ability to remotely control MC, but the ability to stream to my phone is somewhat enticing so I wanted to give that a fair shake before deciding.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on June 05, 2014, 07:21:19 pm
Quote from: Doof on June 05, 2014, 05:28:33 pm
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but I have been unable to get this to actually play anything. I can browse my library just fine, and I can control playback on my PC, so I know communication's working, but whenever I try to play anything to my phone I just get an application error.

Same for me. I'm on Windows 8.1, Lumia 920.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on June 05, 2014, 07:48:03 pm
Quote from: Doof on June 05, 2014, 07:07:38 pm
Thanks for the quick reply. I just replied to your email. Quick summary, still no go.
Quote from: StFeder on June 05, 2014, 07:21:19 pm
Same for me.

This is an issue with nMedium. An update has just been sent for certification on the store

Thanks for the feedback guys
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on June 06, 2014, 08:28:45 pm
nMedium Play version 2.3.1 has been released to the store

This version includes a fix for the issue noted above
It also includes some general performance improvements
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on June 08, 2014, 05:04:51 am
Hello,

Update yesterday was weird (connecting every 2 seconds to MC while in "Player" mode). Updated this morning 11.45  = back in working order
Can you have a look how get "Recent Albums"  : "recent" is only returning list of "recent" files not "Albums"  :P  (well, the way a use it ...)

TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Doof on June 08, 2014, 04:53:07 pm
Just wanted to confirm the update fixed the issue I had streaming music to my phone! Awesome work, and thanks for such a quick reply!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on June 08, 2014, 06:40:00 pm
Quote from: TCube on June 08, 2014, 05:04:51 am
Can you have a look how get "Recent Albums"  : "recent" is only returning list of "recent" files not "Albums"  :P 

Hi TC,

Glad your issue resolved itself.

As to your 'Recent Albums' issue; nMedium presents the library views based on a special configuration.

Go to: 'Services & Settings' > 'Media Network' > 'Options' > 'Advanced' > 'Customize Views for Gizmo & WebGizmo'

Have a look at the configuration in here and play around with it to get the view you would like...
Title: On-the-fly search functionality
Post by: Flarin on June 09, 2014, 11:52:21 am
Hello :)
First of all - this is a great app.
Would be nice to have a search button on the every single step inside the bottom toolbar. It's a major pain to search an album just by the first letter. For example, I have like 50 "T-named" albums.

Also, would be just super-great to have a bit more user-friendly UI, with better usability.
JRemote made it pretty close to perfect (usability-wise): http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple6/v4/7d/89/9d/7d899d06-0a62-c0de-9a48-95b23ef868e8/screen568x568.jpeg ;)
Cheers!
Title: Re: On-the-fly search functionality
Post by: GrantDG on June 09, 2014, 06:08:12 pm
Quote from: Flarin on June 09, 2014, 11:52:21 am
First of all - this is a great app.

Thanks!

Quote from: Flarin on June 09, 2014, 11:52:21 am
Would be nice to have a search button on the every single step inside the bottom toolbar.

Do you mean in the 'library' pages? Elsewhere?

Quote from: Flarin on June 09, 2014, 11:52:21 am
Also, would be just super-great to have a bit more user-friendly UI, with better usability.
JRemote made it pretty close to perfect (usability-wise)

Is there any particular functionality that you think is missing?
Title: Re: On-the-fly search functionality
Post by: Flarin on June 10, 2014, 04:55:05 am
Quote from: GrantDG on June 09, 2014, 06:08:12 pm
Do you mean in the 'library' pages? Elsewhere?
In the library pages, exactly.
Maybe something like this:
1: https://i.imgur.com/huPaAK6.jpg
2: https://i.imgur.com/1Lksork.jpg
Tap on search button again = close search.
What do you think about this?


Quote from: GrantDG on June 09, 2014, 06:08:12 pm
Is there any particular functionality that you think is missing?

Volume is not really easy to control atm. Would be nice to have it as a bar, so it could be possible to set voloume from 100% to around 50% with just one tap.
Same with the timeline bar.

And a few suggestions to consider (bread crumbs, useful navigation from the "playing now" screen): http://screencast.com/t/Z3DTVuKwYLU


P.S.
Does images and file trees are stored locally right now? Because it takes time to load (for example) album images for some reason.
Would be just great to store all that info on the device, and sync it when user wants it to be synced.



Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on June 25, 2014, 03:43:09 am
Hello,

Odd thing but nothing to worry about.
Context :
- Complete Reset of the Windows Phone on Wifi.
- "Reset" complete with Download of Apps. but nMedium Play won't connect to MC (note : you have to through set up again with nMedium Play again either Key or IP:port)
- Question : why ? haven't touch any MC parameters ...

Work around :
- Connect your WP on PC.
- Launch your personal Windows Phone space : Purchase history ---> re-install nMedium Play
- In the same time launch MC and SYNC handheld : to rebuild playlists (gone with the reset).

Just a user trick if ever needed.
TC


Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on June 25, 2014, 04:36:53 pm
Quote from: TCube on June 25, 2014, 03:43:09 am
- "Reset" complete with Download of Apps. but nMedium Play won't connect to MC (note : you have to through set up again with nMedium Play again either Key or IP:port)
- Question : why ? haven't touch any MC parameters ...

nMedium settings are stored locally on the phone - and not synchronised to any server, if you reset the phone, they are lost. I could look into storing settings to OneDrive - but it's not high on the list of priorities (IMHO set-up isn't really that difficult - nor something you would do very often).

TC you might also want to start a separate thread for general WP setup issues - there are a few things mentioned that are not actually related to nMedium...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on July 05, 2014, 10:06:12 pm
Version 2.4 of nMedium Play has been released to the store

- Video transcoding now reports progress (requires JRiver 19.0.133 or above)
- Support for new Media Sub Types
- nMedium now has the ability to manage linked Zones (Link / Unlink) via the Zone picker.
- Some bug fixes and stability improvements
Title: Re: On-the-fly search functionality
Post by: GrantDG on July 18, 2014, 08:44:06 pm
Quote from: Flarin on June 09, 2014, 11:52:21 am
Would be nice to have a search button on the every single step inside the bottom toolbar. It's a major pain to search an album just by the first letter. For example, I have like 50 "T-named" albums.
Cheers!

This is implemented in version 2.5 - now available in the store
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on July 26, 2014, 01:58:31 am
Hello,
Having a hard time to set up NMedium Play with both my servers with Ip/ports (I reckon I don't bother much to monthly/weekly upgrade JRiver).
Still working with 19.0.133 ? Access key is fine.
Thks
TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on July 26, 2014, 02:35:28 am
Quote from: TCube on July 26, 2014, 01:58:31 am
Having a hard time to set up NMedium Play with both my servers with Ip/ports (I reckon I don't bother much to monthly/weekly upgrade JRiver).
Still working with 19.0.133 ? Access key is fine.

nMedium is still working with the latest version on JRiver - and that fact is unlikely to change any time soon!

You can check connectivity by going to your phone browser and browsing to:
    http://[ip:port]/MCWS/v1/
If your browser can see a page here - nMedium can see it
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on July 26, 2014, 02:47:14 am
Hello,

Thks for http://[ip:port]/MCWS/v1/  Ok checked won't work.
JRiver way too many frequent upgrades  >:(

TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on July 26, 2014, 03:01:58 am
Quote from: TCube on July 26, 2014, 02:47:14 am
JRiver way too many frequent upgrades  >:(

JRiver upgrades should be completely seamless - not sure why you would be having troubles. It is definitely not the norm for an upgrade to break nMedium access...

Are you upgrading in place or are you doing an uninstall/reinstall?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on July 26, 2014, 03:13:29 am
GrantDG

I'm upgrading; and  the least necessary regarding what's published here for new releases.
And I tell you most releases I don't need or have a clue what for. I 'll stand by as NMedium Play 2.5 is fine except for Ip/port
I'll take care of it when I get around the No-ip config. again.
Thks
TC

Note :  Your post July 06 Ver. 19.0.133  ---> Now July 25 Ver. 19.0.156    :o
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on July 26, 2014, 09:26:48 am
Quote from: TCube on July 26, 2014, 03:13:29 am
I'm upgrading; and  the least necessary regarding what's published here for new releases.
And I tell you most releases I don't need or have a clue what for. I 'll stand by as NMedium Play 2.5 is fine except for Ip/port

The only reason you would be able to access your server by access key, and not via IP address, is that you are not sure of your server's current IP address.

An easy way to find your IP address is by going to: http://webplay.jriver.com/libraryserver/lookup?id=[accessKey]

IP address management is outside the control/influence of either JRiver or nMedium.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on July 26, 2014, 12:25:17 pm
Ok !
Funky !  ;D I got it, ISP upgrade & reset on router on July 10th . Restore GetawaySettings.bin
Merci Bcp
TC
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on September 13, 2014, 07:19:48 pm
The latest version of nMedium Play (2.6) has been released to the store. 

Changes include:

nMedium Play is also on sale for half price at the moment!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Dirhael on September 14, 2014, 11:20:28 pm
Any chance you'll consider updating the interface to properly support more "modern" Windows Phones? As it stands currently, on 1080p displays you get a black bar at the top, because your app has a fixed 16:10 (or thereabout) aspect ratio.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on September 14, 2014, 11:32:34 pm
Quote from: Dirhael on September 14, 2014, 11:20:28 pm
Any chance you'll consider updating the interface to properly support more "modern" Windows Phones? As it stands currently, on 1080p displays you get a black bar at the top, because your app has a fixed 16:10 (or thereabout) aspect ratio.

I'll have to have a look. Currently the app is built to support back to WP 7.1+, and I'm not sure that while it's targeting 7 that I can have multiple aspect ratios.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Dirhael on September 15, 2014, 05:56:52 am
Quote from: GrantDG on September 14, 2014, 11:32:34 pm
I'll have to have a look. Currently the app is built to support back to WP 7.1+, and I'm not sure that while it's targeting 7 that I can have multiple aspect ratios.

Looking forward to see what you find out :) As for targeting WP 7, are there still people using this version of the OS? I mean, even Microsoft stops supporting it next month.

EDIT: Link for Microsoft support page regarding WP7 support life-cycle: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/default.aspx?LN=en-us&x=17&y=9&p1=17098
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on September 15, 2014, 01:05:29 pm
Hello GrantDG !

Quote
nMedium Play is also on sale for half price at the moment!
I'm a bit pissed having paid 7.99 $ just 7 month ago for now what is just 3.99 !
Whatever, don't count on me on NMedium for Windows 8 tablet and either spreading the word anymore >:(
Rgds
T3

Ps : And please change your pitch "half the price" it makes my eyes sting . Just say a 4$ discount I would feel better  ;)
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on October 10, 2014, 04:13:28 am
Quote from: TCube on September 15, 2014, 01:05:29 pm
Hello GrantDG !
I'm a bit pissed having paid 7.99 $ just 7 month ago for now what is just 3.99 !
Whatever, don't count on me on NMedium for Windows 8 tablet and either spreading the word anymore >:(
Rgds
T3

Ps : And please change your pitch "half the price" it makes my eyes sting . Just say a 4$ discount I would feel better  ;)

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not... if not, I'm sorry you're upset - but really... it is only $4.

Also, I can't mention actual amounts - as the price is different in every jurisdiction (e.g. in Colombia - the app is $COP7000)

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on November 13, 2014, 07:52:50 am
I cannot find the infos on that any more.

Does nMedium Play honor the settings for video conversation given in MC's DLNA Settings? If yes, which format should be set to make videos being played on the phone? I cannot get videos play until the source file has the right format. So it looks, as if conversation setting aren't being honored?!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on November 13, 2014, 11:57:03 pm
Quote from: StFeder on November 13, 2014, 07:52:50 am
I cannot find the infos on that any more.

Does nMedium Play honor the settings for video conversation given in MC's DLNA Settings? If yes, which format should be set to make videos being played on the phone? I cannot get videos play until the source file has the right format. So it looks, as if conversation setting aren't being honored?!

nMedium uses the video conversions settings available to the web services (not DLNA). The quality is configured via nMedium itself (Settings > Playback)

I do notice that transcode progress reporting seems to be broken, I'll have to look if if it's an nMedium issue or a JRiver one.

Thanks for the feedback
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: shades79 on November 20, 2014, 01:59:08 am
I've just started using nMedium today so I haven't had too much time with it, though a couple of issues are apparent to me early on.
Firstly I can't seem to find a setting to turn off repeat and most concerning is that it is draining my Lumia 920 battery very fast. Are these known issues?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on November 20, 2014, 02:53:09 pm
Hi shades,

Thanks for trying out nMedium!

Quote from: shades79 on November 20, 2014, 01:59:08 am
I can't seem to find a setting to turn off repeat

Are you taking about with local (device) or remote (server) playback?

Currently there is no way to turn off repeat for local playback (I had a choice when it was coded to repeat or stop at the end - I thought that repeat was the better option). I could probably do something to allow you to toggle repeat via nMedium - but it's a bit of work and I'm really busy with my day job at the moment... I can add it to the list of enhancements if you'd really like to have it.

For remote playback, you can toggle repeat.
Go to 'playback options' in the menu drawer at the bottom of the playing now screen (click the triple dots to the right of the playback controls) - there's a selection on this options screen to select your repeat mode.

Quote from: shades79 on November 20, 2014, 01:59:08 am
most concerning is that it is draining my Lumia 920 battery very fast.

This one is a little harder to diagnose - tho I doubt the issue is specifically an nMedium one. My last phone was a 920 - and it didn't have any specific battery issues - that I noticed.

When nMedium is not active on your phone screen (and I mean - actually visible on the screen), it, as with all WP apps, goes into a dormant state which uses no battery power.
If you are playing back audio locally, the audio system uses power - but the battery drain is the same no matter what app triggers the audio.

The biggest drains on phone battery life are the screen itself (when it is turned on) and any of the radio transmitters (Cellular, WiFi, Bluetooth). I've found that turning Bluetooth on only when I need it is a great benefit to battery life.

Does any of that help?

Feel free to reply here or PM me if you want some more info.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: shades79 on November 21, 2014, 04:49:40 pm
Thanks for the reply.

Yes, local playback is what I was referring to. Personally for me it's a deal breaker, I mostly only listen through the phone when driving and I seem to forget the album has started again. It takes me back to the old days of car stereos repeating the CD without any setting to change it.

Though I may be in the minority here so I don't expect changes just for me, I can go back to using Plex (which has very poor library management for music, hence my shopping around) if I can't deal with repeating.

The battery issue didn't worry me that much as I only used it for one session and it could have been a random issue, I only mentioned it because I haven't had any battery concerns since 8.1 and Battery Saver showed extreme in use and background usage from this app and the phone was getting very hot.

Anyway, good work on supporting this platform, much appreciated. I'm happy to have paid for it even though it looks like it isn't for me, though at least I can still use it as a remote for my main system.
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: Krunchy on January 29, 2015, 02:57:19 am
Hi,

this short message to tell about two problems i have:
- when i skip a track, track changes (audio), but not on the phone (so it remains on the first track played). So i need to quit the program, going backt to it to have the playing song
- tag are not registered. i did that a few times on the phone and when i go back to JRiver, nothing

If you could help or do something about it, it would be nice

my device is Nokia 925. 8.1 Cyan
nMedium version is 2.6.1.9

Thanks

Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on January 29, 2015, 02:51:44 pm
Hi Krunchy,

Sorry to hear you're having troubles. I gather you are talking about local playback?

Quote from: Krunchy on January 29, 2015, 02:57:19 am
- when i skip a track, track changes (audio), but not on the phone (so it remains on the first track played). So i need to quit the program, going backt to it to have the playing song

I'm not sure I understand this one - I just did a test, and it seems to work fine. My steps were:

Are you not seeing this or is the issue different to what I am doing ?

Quote from: Krunchy on January 29, 2015, 02:57:19 am
- tag are not registered. i did that a few times on the phone and when i go back to JRiver, nothing

I've also tested this one and it's working perfectly for me.

One thing to check, are you hitting the "OK" (tick) icon at the bottom of the tag view? Tags are not written back to JRiver till you do that.
Also, if you have the track in view in JRiver, you need to hover over it with you mouse to see updated values.

Feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss more!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 11, 2015, 06:43:25 am
Hello !
As rumors go by with Wp10 next moves would you involved NMedium Play :
A - with music files from SD Card ?
B - with music files from One Drive  ?
C - with Flac music files ?
No rush required indeed  :D
Rgds
Tc
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: GrantDG on March 11, 2015, 06:03:52 pm
Quote from: TCube on March 11, 2015, 06:43:25 am
A - with music files from SD Card ?
B - with music files from One Drive  ?
C - with Flac music files ?

A - nMedium Play MAY one day support syncing files from JRiver to the device for truly local playback... but no timeframes
B - I highly doubt it - it will always see JRiver as its server
c - nMedium can already play FLAC files (when transcoded by JRiver for local playback  ;) ). When WP10 supports FLAC nativaly, and (A) above happens, then I don't see why this couldn't happen

As an aside to this - I'm very much looking forward to WP10 one day natively supporting HLS - which will make video playback significantly nicer!
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: TCube on March 25, 2015, 12:51:42 pm
Hello Grant
Just an awesome update  : XBox Music ver. 2.6.674.0 makes streaming possible from One Drive as of today.
Tried it some mishaps on the user interface from tags uploaded on OneDrive but it gets by.
You really should consider it, if feasible. I am just pushing the case for smartphones  but goes 4 Windows RT ;)
Rgds
Tc

Edit FYI : No Go limit, just one limit : 50 000 files at most
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: beats_works on June 14, 2015, 01:42:55 pm
If I wanted to use this app to control a car PC running JRiver could I direct connect via Wi-Fi adapter on PC or would I need to add a wireless access point to create network?
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: beats_works on June 14, 2015, 01:49:01 pm
Quote from: TCube on March 25, 2015, 12:51:42 pm
Hello Grant
Just an awesome update  : XBox Music ver. 2.6.674.0 makes streaming possible from One Drive as of today.
Tried it some mishaps on the user interface from tags uploaded on OneDrive but it gets by.
You really should consider it, if feasible. I am just pushing the case for smartphones  but goes 4 Windows RT ;)
Rgds
Tc

Edit FYI : No Go limit, just one limit : 50 000 files at most

Other "Limit" is I believe you can only use MP3 format. Probably not an issue for streaming to phone but I already have my Flac files backed up on OneDrive and would be nice to be able to stream those (yes I have unlimited data plan before anyone comments ;-) )
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: StFeder on June 15, 2015, 03:47:09 am
Quote from: beats_works on June 14, 2015, 01:42:55 pm
If I wanted to use this app to control a car PC running JRiver could I direct connect via Wi-Fi adapter on PC or would I need to add a wireless access point to create network?
I once tried to create a AdHoc network to use nMedium as a remote for parties. This would be a solution you are looking for, right?

I was unable to make it work. I don't know if I just did it wrong (it is not that easy to create a AdHoc network with windows 8.1) or if a wireless access point really is needed to use nMedium...
Title: Re: nMedium Play: Playback from your server to your Windows Phone
Post by: beats_works on June 15, 2015, 10:13:33 am
Quote from: StFeder on June 15, 2015, 03:47:09 am
I once tried to create a AdHoc network to use nMedium as a remote for parties. This would be a solution you are looking for, right?

I was unable to make it work. I don't know if I just did it wrong (it is not that easy to create a AdHoc network with windows 8.1) or if a wireless access point really is needed to use nMedium...

Thanks.  Doesn't appear that WP8 will accept an Ad-Hoc connection BUT chasing threads it may be possible to setup Virtual Access Point on PC and connect Phone to that.