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Title: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 20, 2015, 10:23:29 am
Edit by JimH -- Please see the last post in this thread.]

We're finishing it up now.  You can take a look if you're willing to spend $9.98.

Here's the announcement Hendrik made a week ago on our private board.

----------------- begin Hendrik -------------------

JRiver proudly presents, JRemote for Android!

JRemote for Android is available in the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jriver.jremote

Make sure you get the JRiver version.  There is another product with the same name.

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Please note that JRemote for Android currently requires at least Android 4.1 or newer. We may re-evaluate this requirement in the future, however.

JRemote for Android will work with MC on any OS that MC runs on.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 20, 2015, 11:09:20 am
Please use this thread for feedback.  Thanks.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 20, 2015, 11:12:48 am
Please do note that this is still an early beta version, and there will be issues. We appreciate any help we can get with testing our new code, but if you would rather have a fully working app, you may want to hold off until a later phase.
If you want to help us solve these issues and see the app grow and develop however, then we thank you for it! Please report any actual bugs you find, and send crash reports to the Play Store if it should crash.

One note about feature requests: At this point we would prefer to get everything we have planned and started to work on into place and working properly, and only then start to consider feature additions.
So please keep that in mind, and maybe remember your requests for later, when it makes more sense to ask!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: beginner44 on March 20, 2015, 12:16:45 pm
Hi there,

first thank you for this new toy, it looks great !

I've been playing with it for a few minutes, and I'm wondering if the volume could be changed thanks to the physical buttons of the phone / tablet ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: pkehoe on March 20, 2015, 12:26:06 pm
When I search for an artist, it finds that artist, but then when I attempt to play, it takes the first artist from the full list instead of the selected artist.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: beginner44 on March 20, 2015, 12:33:08 pm
I'm not sure about what the "remote" mode is supposed to do, but currently it dusplays 4 items : "audio, video, images, playlists" in the gizmo style. pressing on Audio then jumps to the main audio menu.

I guess remote is more about navigating in the menus in theater mode, right (like EOS does ?).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: beginner44 on March 20, 2015, 12:38:45 pm
after switching from the player zone on the pc to the local device, when displaying again the current playing item on the pc, the time slide on the phone will go back and forth eraticly.

switching bak to the phone the current playing screen is Ok but the album image is not updated : it displays the one of the current plating track on the PC
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 20, 2015, 12:49:22 pm
i know this was just posted and beta...Few things happening with my tests if you are not aware.
1. Authentication not working for me. (connects without it though)
2. When in Audio/Video...press and hold where there are multiple items in the folder shows available play options and a popup confirms the item pressed is in effect/ Playing all files starting with. however nothing happens. (playing now remains empty or at the state it was prior to press and hold choose play options.)  if I press and hold on an individual item then it will begin playback immediately.  (Images works. press and hold choose playback option will begin playback of images immediately.)
3.  Remotes... im not sure what this means or what it is for but that has the same results as #2. (im assuming this would be similar to theaterview remote in gizmo/eos? However on my device when clicking on it it shows audio, images, video, playlists. and when i press playback of an individual item then it begins playback on which ever zone is default.

all these tests were done connecting to main library and playing back on device via wifi/home network.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: pahunt on March 20, 2015, 01:27:39 pm
On the whole it's working great for me on my Samsung Galaxy S4. Issues I've found so far are:

1. After connecting to the server for the first time, an apparently random track was selected in the "now playing" section at the bottom of the screen.
2. The initial configuration was not set to play to the current device, it took me a while to work out why nothing would play. This may or may not have been an intentional decision but if it confused me I'm sure it would confuse others as well.
3. My "Most Played" playlist doesn't show any files when I open it.
4. If I click the "change view" button while the "Most Played" playlist is open and showing no files the app crashes. My guess would be the "change view" button hasn't been designed to cope with an empty list.

Finally a question, does playback take account audio analysis for volume levelling purposes?

Keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Castius on March 20, 2015, 01:59:20 pm
authentication user name "return" made a new line.

Steps:
On server setup.
While typing in the authentication user name.
Hit return. This made a new line below. Instead of moving to the password field.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 20, 2015, 02:33:52 pm
Castius were you able to connect with authentication on?

I'm noticing on one of my pc's i cannot connect to main library either, the id and password are correct (tried numerous times) i tried different passwords on server, and jremote/pc client continue to fail, ive rebooted server still devices are not authenticating. the devices remember the credentials but fail.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: pahunt on March 20, 2015, 03:51:53 pm
Castius were you able to connect with authentication on?

I'm noticing on one of my pc's i cannot connect to main library either, the id and password are correct (tried numerous times) i tried different passwords on server, and jremote/pc client continue to fail, ive rebooted server still devices are not authenticating. the devices remember the credentials but fail.

Can't help with why it's not working for you but can at least confirm that authentication is working fine for me.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: jmone on March 20, 2015, 04:47:03 pm
Authentication has been working fine for me as well
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 20, 2015, 04:50:05 pm
just tried adding authentication to a pc thats never been connencted...same issue.
will start new thread.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 20, 2015, 06:10:37 pm
Playing a movie and “giving 5 stars“. Playing around in the menu, coming back to the movie playing: star rating gone = not saved from previous
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 20, 2015, 11:36:58 pm
Thanks guys for confirmations, got authentication working... had to reset Server access key and reset up all my devices.

Perhaps you can confirm # 1 is working for you as well? I've tested numerous times and nothing...(press and held on Rock under 5 star ratings and dialog popped up stating playing, i let phone sit for over 5 minutes, and nothing played.)
Quote
When in Audio/Video...press and hold where there are multiple items in the folder shows available play options and a popup confirms the item pressed is in effect/ Playing all files starting with. however nothing happens. (playing now remains empty or at the state it was prior to press and hold choose play options.)  if I press and hold on an individual item then it will begin playback immediately.  (Images works. press and hold choose playback option will begin playback of images immediately.)


2. I entered an access key to a private library of ours and noticed that remember password is not an option.






Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: DomieMic65 on March 21, 2015, 12:27:36 am
I am sorry but why should such an early beta version be charged 5,67€??
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sjhilton on March 21, 2015, 01:06:13 am
Hi,

I'm not getting any 'playing now' information on my phone when playing audio on my media center (it says 'nothing is currently playing'). All of the controls work (stop, play, volume etc) (except the progress bar.) The correct zone is showing in jremote.

I'm also having some erratic behaviour authenticating with the access key (it often takes multiple attempts) - this is an issue with Gizmo as well. I haven't changed my network settings so I'm not sure why this would be happening. I'm not sure if the two issues are related.

Hope this is helpful.

cheers,

Stuart
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: marko on March 21, 2015, 01:17:12 am
JRemote for Apple has separate apps for iPad and iPhone.

How will the experience differ between android phone and android tablet?
If I were to try this, it would be on an HTC M8.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sjhilton on March 21, 2015, 01:36:37 am
Hi,

I'm not getting any 'playing now' information on my phone when playing audio on my media center (it says 'nothing is currently playing'). All of the controls work (stop, play, volume etc) (except the progress bar.) The correct zone is showing in jremote.

I'm also having some erratic behaviour authenticating with the access key (it often takes multiple attempts) - this is an issue with Gizmo as well. I haven't changed my network settings so I'm not sure why this would be happening. I'm not sure if the two issues are related.

Hope this is helpful.

cheers,

Stuart

This issue seems to fixed by restarting the App. Sorry I should have tried this first before posting.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 21, 2015, 02:14:24 am
Quote
if I press and hold on an individual item then it will begin playback immediately.
correction... Audio works. i never tried video until 30 minutes ago and ive yet to get a video to play, jremote just spins, I tried uninstalling/reinstalling, i changed video stream to low, and let it sit for over 5 minutes as well. (and then when i went back to drop down. i have this. only way to get menu back is to force close jremote.
I tested all videos i tried on jremote on eos and gizmo and they all played.

http://i60.tinypic.com/8wxz80.jpg
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: firedog on March 21, 2015, 02:58:51 am
Tried using it for basic smartlist functions and playback. It worked fine. It also successfully streamed hi-res to my phone from my MC server. Cool.

I did have some issues with it accepting my key and/or my user/password. Did get it to work after a few tries.

Like having this on my phone and now I can get an Android tablet and use it as a remote.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 21, 2015, 03:56:52 am
Search doesn't seem to work. Searched for several artist names, which are in my library for sure, but 0 search results.
Title: Re: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 21, 2015, 04:07:03 am
Search doesn't seem to work. Searched for several artist names, which are in my library for sure, but 0 search results.
Edit:
search works from the main menu in the left bar on my device, but when I am in “music“, then Search doesn't find artists in my library.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: pegazus on March 21, 2015, 06:02:37 am
Hi,

thank you very much for this great tool.
I can only use music. If I try to play video or pictures on my tablet, nothing is happen. Also if I select the remote it jumps to music.


.....sorry for my bad English.  :-[
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: styxx10 on March 21, 2015, 07:04:07 am
I know it is only early days, but I see no difference to using this application over Gizmo & Theater View... or benefit.
Are there plans to incorporate newer functionality ?.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 21, 2015, 07:15:57 am
Maybe, but don't count on anything special.  Our intention is to match the feature set of the iOS version of JRemote.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 21, 2015, 07:28:07 am
I am sorry but why should such an early beta version be charged 5,67€??
It's a discount from the normal price, which will probably be $10, but if you think it's too much please don't buy it.  Gizmo is free.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Suricatus on March 21, 2015, 10:44:31 am
The app is promising!

- Is it going to be be implemented Album attachments like iOS version? (back cover, pdfs, etc).
- Artist Bio is working? I see only a logo.

Thanks a lot
Leo
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: PeeBee on March 21, 2015, 11:00:05 am
Installed and test today, no problem till now..

For future hopefully chromecast support (for my Sonos Playbar)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: cavediver on March 21, 2015, 12:06:23 pm
I installed the beta last night and connected it to JRiver MC. I haven't used it much yet other than just to look around the app. I've been using Gizmo without any issues. What is JRemote going to bring to the table that Gizmo doesn't already offer?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mattkhan on March 21, 2015, 02:53:18 pm
looks v nice, more professional than gizmo IMV.

A couple of issues

- WOL doesn't seem to work within the LAN, it says it sends a WOL packet but the server doesn't wake up. If I switch to gizmo then it wakes up immediately.
- images don't "play", it says "playing" but it doesn't show them
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: morrison on March 22, 2015, 09:34:03 am
Generally best remote for MC, thanks for android version.
Looks a little tiny on my SGT 8.4 CM12 400dpi, but not bad for beta version.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: salora on March 22, 2015, 10:02:10 am
Hi
It's so far working great for a beta
Not any bug yet

I'd like to start ŕ song on zone 1, stop it or pause it, and then resume on zone 2
Is it possible ?

If yes it depends on the app or the server ?

Finally a nice Widget for basic commands like it exist for play music would be great
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Castius on March 22, 2015, 10:53:42 am
I also have issues playing images.
Hit play and it say playing. But nothing is happening.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: marko on March 22, 2015, 07:57:38 pm
Initial Feedback

Typical usage: In the car, connected via the factory fitted Bluetooth option.

It does not remember that the last time it was used, it was set to play "On this device". Freaked the wife out when music began playing out of the HTPC all on its own.
When using Gizmo, the Album, Artist, Name and elapsed time are displayed on the in-car media screen. With JRemote, these are not shown.
When using Gizmo, when I cut the ignition, the Bluetooth is disconnected and the track pauses. Next time it connects, the track begins playing again, albeit from the start again, but it still begins automagically. None of this happens with JRemote.
Images do not display.
Album art, all stored inside the file, do not display. (Sorry, they display in the list, but not in "Playing Now")

First test this evening connected via the HTPC which has no authentication.
Later, I will test connected to the main server and check that ratings, number of plays, last played are incrementing as expected and report back.

Over all. looking good so far.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: marko on March 23, 2015, 01:43:37 am
Some more...

The HTPC is an authenticated library server client, which in turn, runs library server without authentication so that the girls can connect to it from the iPad and I know that the tags and files are safe. It does have direct access to the files though, and album art is not displayed in Playing Now.

Connecting directly to the server, with authentication however, does display cover art in Playing Now.

Now, more on authenticated connection:



In my typical usage case, I don't use video on my phone as I don't have 4G and 3G is just not fast enough.
Having quickly whipped around to see where we're at, I will probably fall back on Gizmo until the next release, as that "4 Star Plus" smartlist is for the car and relies on a "Last Played is not in the last seven days" rule to ensure I don't get the same track in the car in the same week. It works, it's neat. It would need to work in JRemote before I switched to it full time.

-marko
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: pahunt on March 23, 2015, 04:56:12 am
When using Gizmo, when I cut the ignition, the Bluetooth is disconnected and the track pauses. Next time it connects, the track begins playing again, albeit from the start again, but it still begins automagically. None of this happens with JRemote.

I have noticed the same behaviour when I pull the headphones from my phone, i.e. Gizmo auto pauses, JRemote doesn't. I guess it's all probably related but I thought I'd mention it just in case they're separate issues.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: styxx10 on March 23, 2015, 06:47:05 am
I hope that when the dust settles on the additional functionality that has so far been requested to be corrected & included in JRemote that
it is able to start up & control Theater View.

I assume it is intended to replace Gizmo ?. That Gizmo will no longer be supported or improved ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: salora on March 23, 2015, 08:04:17 am
Hello
I don't know if it Is related to beta program or the app
But after "opt in" I was unable to download to my tablet
Appstore did'nt find the app

I had to download it on my phone first
Then it appeared on my playstore installed app

And finally I could download it to the tablet
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Suricatus on March 23, 2015, 09:40:49 am
These are the issues I found so far:

- When I enter in Audio -> Artists, I see all albuns Thumbnails order by artist name. If I search and artist, when I click on the album, another artist album one opened.
- I could not display extra files from music albuns. (In iOS version there is an attachment icon).
- I didnt see artist bio working.

Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: DomieMic65 on March 23, 2015, 09:57:23 am
It's a discount from the normal price, which will probably be $10, but if you think it's too much please don't buy it.  Gizmo is free.
Well... I bought it even though I have eos too! :)
Is the screenshot shown in the playstore somehow different than how the app really looks or it's me? :-\
It looks promising but I didn't have the chance to test it for long yet! I generally like the GUI.
Is there going to be a tablet app too (hopefully with no additional charge)? I am mostly using my N7 for JRiver remote..
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 23, 2015, 05:23:12 pm
Rating stars on Playing Now do not correlate with the number of rating stars on the meta info page of the same song.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 23, 2015, 05:27:02 pm
When I click on the “remote“ menu in the left bar, then music, then select and play a song, nothing happens.
What should happen? Should the song start playing remotely in another zone? Unclear what the “Remote“ menu is for...
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 23, 2015, 05:29:13 pm
“Put server to sleep“ is not implemented yet, or couldn't I find it?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 23, 2015, 05:40:06 pm
There are quite a few things still not done.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: somebike on March 23, 2015, 05:51:53 pm
First off, let me say that the app looks great and when the full functionality is working, it looks like it will be far and away the best remote app.  Issues I have noticed so far:

1. Star ratings do not work

2. Time remaining on track frequently off

3. Toggle to have screen remain on does not work

4.  When adding a album with the same title as one already in the library, only the older version will show up in the recently added
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sorepinky on March 24, 2015, 04:37:52 am
The progress bar on the JRemote interface has time lapsed on left and time remaining on right, but the time remaining can exceed the total duration of the track as shown on the PC MC20 interface.  It can differ by several minutes.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Arcturus on March 24, 2015, 07:25:13 am
Just got it, Love the refresh button, something Gizmo really needs. Love the rich metadata also.

So far I had only 1 crash when I first tried to open up movies but the second time it was okay.

One thing though on my nexus 7 1080p screen the thumbnails and fonts are really really small.
Could use a few settings for that.

Great start though on the android port. This will definitely be the app I use.

Gonna test the hell out of it this week :)

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: The Computer Audiophile on March 24, 2015, 08:50:55 am
I'm trying to opt-in to the beta on the Play Store using the link below and I receive the following error (see image).
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.jriver.jremote


Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 24, 2015, 08:54:49 am
Did you try again?  I just approved you.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: The Computer Audiophile on March 24, 2015, 09:02:04 am
Did you try again?  I just approved you.
I figured out the issue. I was logged in with a couple different google accounts and it defaulted to an account that hadn't been approved. It's all good now :~)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: cavediver on March 24, 2015, 09:26:46 am
I got a chance to test this remote app this past weekend. Using a Samsung Galaxy S5.  It worked ok, except the app crashed after I received a phone call. The music was still playing in the theater room, but the app itself has stopped working after ending the call. 

Also, no one answered by question. What does this app bring to the table that Gizmo doesn't already offer?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mojave on March 24, 2015, 09:43:57 am
Also, no one answered by question. What does this app bring to the table that Gizmo doesn't already offer?
There may be more differences visible when using a tablet than when just on a phone. On my phone, I like the ability to slide up Playing Now, to instantly switch Playing Now zones, the volume slider, and no "You're on the bus" slogan.  :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: BPT40 on March 24, 2015, 01:38:12 pm
JRemote is working well on both my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S3. Love the look on the nexus tablet.I have used both Gizmo and Eos and after a couple of days I think JRemote is the one to beat. One small issue at first was when using JRemote  on the Galaxy S3 and playing to the player (PC thru Stereo) when the screen on S3 timed out JRemote would stop working on S3 when screen turned back on. The player would continue to play and I just opened JRemote on S3 again and everything would continue uninterrupted. This issue has disappeared the last two times I've used JRemote with the Galaxy S3. Great work,looking forward to finished product 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Adhara on March 24, 2015, 02:35:50 pm
Hi,

Links for download look broken (1st post).
When does the stable version will be released ?

regards
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 24, 2015, 03:52:39 pm
Hi,

Links for download look broken (1st post).
When does the stable version will be released ?

regards
You have to go here first:
https://plus.google.com/communities/104243392097469608064
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sorepinky on March 24, 2015, 11:42:29 pm
The WOL feature does not seem to work.  Gizmo wakes my PC, but JRemote beta does not.

So far this beta software is trashing Gizmo though.  It's a throrough piece of work of the BubbleUPnP variety, but better in one giant way - it's a proper remote controller for MC.  I'm loving it.  :)

BTW I'm runnig it on an ASUS Intel Atom tablet.  It would be nice if it could run on my older Toshiba tablet running Android 4.0.4 as well.

Addendum:

OK I found another glitch.  I have two MC "Servers".  When the app is controlling the one where all the music is stored on the first PC (PC1) the cover art shows up fine everywhere on the app interface, but when controlling the Server on PC2 (which loads the library across the LAN from PC1) the cover art shows up in the thumbnails, but not when wanting to see it in full size by tapping the thumbnail at bottom left.  Then I just see a kind of generic background with a colour fade from top to bottom.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: rogermcnally on March 25, 2015, 05:14:53 am
1. While the progress bar for the track playing works fine the progress bar for the album doesn't move at all.
2. If I start a track from the pc or leave and return to the app the x at the top left hand corner. which normally takes me to a list of album tracks, now takes me to the audio screen..ie the screen with artist album recent etc, so I am unable to see what tracks are on the playing album.
3. When I reinstalled the ap and entered to new passkey I was given a new server entry in My Servers. I am unable to delete the out of date one.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: rogermcnally on March 25, 2015, 05:59:22 am
Following a crash, report sent from phone, I find that the artwork on JRemote is very messed up...three albums that had the correct artwork now have had it replaced with What's The Story Morning Glory...appropriately enough given the apps behavior.
The artwork remains correct on Gizmo and on the pc.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- problems authenticating access key
Post by: Seahug on March 25, 2015, 06:35:05 am
Hi,

I've gotten beta approval and downloaded the app. I created an access key on MC20, which works on Gizmo. However, when I try to add the server to JRemote, I get an Access key not valid, must be 6 characters. (which it is.

I've checked the win firewall setting and it's open to Media Center.

Would appreciate any suggestions/

Thanks!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 25, 2015, 07:15:18 am
We've had this reported a couple of times.  I don't know why.

If you read above, you may find a workaround.  I believe one user generated a new Access Key (under media network options on the server) and another just waited a few hours and it began to work.  It's possible that DHCP is the root cause.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Seahug on March 25, 2015, 08:18:26 am
Thanks.

It's been a problem since yesterday.

I've also tried creating a new port rule in win firewall.

Will give the new access key thing a shot.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- problems authenticating access key
Post by: Ekpen on March 25, 2015, 01:42:31 pm
Hi,

I've gotten beta approval and downloaded the app. I created an access key on MC20, which works on Gizmo. However, when I try to add the server to JRemote, I get an Access key not valid, must be 6 characters. (which it is.

I've checked the win firewall setting and it's open to Media Center.

Would appreciate any suggestions/

Thanks!

This is  a workaround I used after several days of frustration. On the Server try disable authentication for now and log in .
If that works, go back and enable authentication again.
At times, it may not log you in, but generally it will let you in.

I am still struggling with this, especially error message" Invalid User name and Password". The irony is Gizmo and EOS icons are just sitting close to JRemote. I can fire these up with my eyes close using same credentials.

I hope Les Paul will find a away to fix this log in issues. I suggest the program should ask for IP/Key and query  media network information, then prompt user to confirm or edit information, then save the info. Gizmo and EOS do have a "Save" feature.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: alice on March 25, 2015, 04:35:43 pm
Where can I download this ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- problems authenticating access key
Post by: Seahug on March 25, 2015, 06:57:49 pm
Thanks. Tried this as well as generating new access key.

Still won't work for me.

Is it possible JRemote is locked out because I entered the wrong key (i was entering my pw) a couple of times?

It seems the Gizmo sign on is more stable and works all the team.

This is  a workaround I used after several days of frustration. On the Server try disable authentication for now and log in .
If that works, go back and enable authentication again.
At times, it may not log you in, but generally it will let you in.

I am still struggling with this, especially error message" Invalid User name and Password". The irony is Gizmo and EOS icons are just sitting close to JRemote. I can fire these up with my eyes close using same credentials.

I hope Les Paul will find a away to fix this log in issues. I suggest the program should ask for IP/Key and query  media network information, then prompt user to confirm or edit information, then save the info. Gizmo and EOS do have a "Save" feature.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Seahug on March 25, 2015, 07:04:44 pm
Tried clearing JRemote cache (my tablet is a Samsung Galaxy Tab S, the latest one). - Nope

Tried deleting and reinstalling - Nope.

Hope you guys can figure it out. I just started using Gizmo and while I see the limitations, I like having a remote.

Cheers!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 25, 2015, 07:06:38 pm
Where can I download this ?
Please read the first post.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: kamimeguro on March 25, 2015, 09:53:39 pm
Hi,

Trying this since last weekend on my Samsung Note II. Looks very promising

Works perfect at Home with a small glitch:
If I decide to select and play a different album while one is already playing, it plays ok the newly selected and shows the correct information on the currently playing now screen, but if I slide to get the details of the playing list, I get the former album track list (not refreshed)

While on the road, I can log on my server and see my library, but am unable to play anything on the device itself (selecting this device).
For reference, Gizmo works like a charm.

Kami
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: audiolover on March 26, 2015, 10:15:35 am
Installed the beta, works good. 3 things do not work: screen always on, last FM artist bio and search.
Tried search in main menu and in sub\genre menu but nothing.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: rwpritchett on March 26, 2015, 10:36:47 am
Also, no one answered by question. What does this app bring to the table that Gizmo doesn't already offer?

FLAC streaming would be a big one for me.  Gizmo transcodes all FLAC to mp3.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: rwpritchett on March 26, 2015, 11:02:40 am
Here's a list of a few things not working for me on my Galaxy Tab 4.  All items involve streaming from my JRiver server to playback on the tablet itself:

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: wdesbrow on March 26, 2015, 11:19:01 am

Question...

I signed up for the Beta test yesterday but then noticed a few comments that implied that it was designed only for phone (not tablet).  Will it work on my Android tablet?

Thanks!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 26, 2015, 11:29:09 am
Its not entirely optimized for tablets yet, but it should work on them.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: BPT40 on March 26, 2015, 11:55:57 am
Question...

I signed up for the Beta test yesterday but then noticed a few comments that implied that it was designed only for phone (not tablet).  Will it work on my Android tablet?

Thanks!

Works and looks great on Nexus 7 Tablet
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: boot77 on March 26, 2015, 06:02:29 pm
Just installed JRemote, looks nice, speed is great!

With jremote I played a file on a client connected to the server. The file is an HD audio file (which jremote does show). The client seems to recieve an 128kb mp3 file instead of the original HD file. What setting must I change so serve the high res file to the client? On the client it self, the client options (when connected to a library server) are all set to no conversion.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: kamimeguro on March 26, 2015, 06:21:40 pm
....
While on the road, I can log on my server and see my library, but am unable to play anything on the device itself (selecting this device).
For reference, Gizmo works like a charm.

Kami

Update:
As rwpritchett, I found out I need to "open" an album to be able to play it since long press/play does not.
The option to keep the screen always on does not work.
The play now screen indicates the native file information, which can be found when you select the album, not the actual stream.

Kami

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: audiocrazy on March 26, 2015, 11:14:27 pm
I can't Play DSF files on Samsung Galaxy S3 phone connected to Oppo HA-2 DAC that is capable of playing DSD/DSF files.
However its plays on other devices like Oppo BDP-103.

I've the same problem with JRemote on iPhone 6. On iPhone 6 i get an error "Audio streaming Error".
I hope DSF/DSD native format streaming is available as I have a huge collection of it.

"Play Doctor" does not work and no playlist is generated.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 27, 2015, 05:42:31 am
DSD/DSF native streaming is very unlikely to be supported, sorry.
We'll only support native streaming of formats that Android officially supports, and don't require an external DAC.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Mastiff on March 27, 2015, 07:13:30 am
Any hope for us antisocial networking guys soon? ;)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 27, 2015, 07:17:14 am
I just pushed a new version to the Play Store, it will show up on your devices in the next couple hours.

20.0.4 / 4 (03/27/2015)

1. Fixed: The playback options in the album context menus didn't work (long-press an album in the browse activity).
2. Fixed: Pause didn't work, and caused the tracks to start from the beginning instead of resuming.
3. Fixed: A lot of crash and stability fixes.

There is also some improvements coming to the next MC20 build which will help with some problems when accessing Playlists/Smart Lists, which can currently make JRemote unresponsive (but its actually a MC problem, as it stops answering to web requests reliably).
I also hope to have a lot of the stability/reliabilty problems under control now - it required quite a bit of re-working internally, but I should be able to focus on more missing features now.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: RayDiant on March 27, 2015, 04:59:40 pm
I get errors when I download. I tried as many options as I could think of. First I tried downloading from the app store on my phone I get this error:

Error retrieving information from server [RPC: S-7 :AEC-0].

Then I tried downloading on my PC and selecting the attached phone as the device (playstore figured this out) and I get this error:

An unexpected error occurred, please try again later.

What am I missing here? I have approval. I get the google+ posts. I can get to all the links in the first post???

Mark
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Suricatus on March 27, 2015, 08:45:34 pm
I´m using a Galaxy Note 4 and notice a serious problem after updating today.
When using audio, The "Playing Now" is not working anymore.

Thanks
Leonardo
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: audiocrazy on March 27, 2015, 08:53:52 pm
DSD/DSF native streaming is very unlikely to be supported, sorry.
We'll only support native streaming of formats that Android officially supports, and don't require an external DAC.
Very sad to hear that :(
I thought the option "Use Native Format" would enable native streaming of any file types. ?
In any case the Playlist stops when there is a DSF/DSD file and it very annoying.
Can it be fixed to skip the unsupported files and play the next file in play list?

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: runsilent on March 27, 2015, 09:19:19 pm
Using latest JRemote build on a Nexus 7 and everything was working fine (apart from the already mentioned time display bug) until when streaming from Tidal's Chrome web player via my PC (using MC WDM). In this particular instance I had left MC open. Then when I chose to play an album on JRemote the  "playing now" display at bottom of screen no longer shows track/album info playing, time, cover thumbnail etc. When I click on it, all the "playing now" page shows is a blank album thumbnail, no elapsed time, track info etc. However, if I select my Nexus as the playback device, all the above mentioned info is now displayed correctly. When I switch back to Player (my PC), everything vanishes again. I have tried uninstalling/re-installing JRemote to no avail. Not sure if this is a bug or if I'm an idiot ;) but I'd sure appreciate some assistance.

Apart from above,  I really like JRemote especially the editable metadata and have been a MC user since JRMC16 and absolutely love the flexibility of this great piece of software.

Paul
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sorepinky on March 27, 2015, 11:21:42 pm
After a JRemote update installed itself on my tablet today, the full-size cover art problem that I described in my previous post remains the same.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: DomieMic65 on March 28, 2015, 04:17:28 am
Something is very wrong with the last update!
"Now playing" does not work on both my Nexus 5 & 7 2nd gen.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: audiolover on March 28, 2015, 10:49:38 am
Now playing not working on Archos tablet and phone Galaxy S3-NEO.
This was perfect in the previous release!
Music is playing on HIFI set properly. I only play via DAC to HIFI so no streaming to my Android devices.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: dvdende on March 28, 2015, 10:56:28 am
With the latest update Playing now part is not working anymore on my Asus TF101 with Android 5.1. Also some fields in the metadata are presented wrong. Dates fields are presentekd as integer. Also the biodata is not functioning.

How can you view the Playing now list?
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 28, 2015, 12:01:09 pm
On Huawei Mate 7 (Android 4.4.2), still all there as before: playing now at the bottom of the screen, when I click on it, I come to the big screen playing now with the tabs for the metadata working well
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: audiolover on March 28, 2015, 12:51:37 pm
Is this "playing now not working" issue maybe an Android version issue? Both my Samsung phone and Archos tablet run 4.2.2. Both Android versions as delivered from the manufacturer so no custom roms.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: BPT40 on March 28, 2015, 02:47:46 pm
After recent update the playing now screen shows no information. Using galaxy S3 and playing to MC on PC . The controls are working, I can skip to next or stop playback but the screen is just a fuzzy photo and no track info.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 29, 2015, 04:12:49 am
Playing now is not working for me, if there is a playlist already running, and I am then connecting to the server via JRemote. No track info or track list in this case, although the volume can be changed.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 29, 2015, 05:28:28 am
I pushed a new version with the playing now hopefully fixed again.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Bccc1 on March 29, 2015, 05:36:15 am
The Search has a Bug.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Start App -> I'm in the Audio Section
2. Open a View (In my case Artist)
3. Press Search Icon in top left.
4. Enter Search Term
5. Select an Item -> Another Item starts.
In all tested cases, it took the index in the filtered view and then opened the item in the unfiltered view with that index.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: DomieMic65 on March 29, 2015, 07:12:49 am
The update does not show in the Playstore....
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 29, 2015, 07:53:30 am
It takes a few hours for the update to show up, please show a bit of patience. :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- problems authenticating access tried via ip - pls hel
Post by: Seahug on March 29, 2015, 08:15:30 am
Hi,

After problems authenticating access key, I tried connecting via ip.

I entered my ip address 120.28.118.10

I get an error message -

Could not connect (failed to connect to /120.28.118.10 (port 52199) after 5000 ms: isConnected failed: ECONNREFUSED (connection refused).

Still works on gizmo. I have jriver enabled on firewall.

Am running win 7 on an X61 Thinkpad.

Would appreciate any help.

Thanks!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Seahug on March 29, 2015, 08:21:44 am
Tried it again on my other laptop a lenovo T430 running win 8. I still get the same error on access key.

Would appreciate detailed help please
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: audiolover on March 29, 2015, 08:38:46 am
New version is installed and "playing now" works again, thank you!!
Tried playing to phone\tablet too, all is working.

Will try more later.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: DomieMic65 on March 29, 2015, 09:36:42 am
It takes a few hours for the update to show up, please show a bit of patience. :)
Downloaded!!!!
Thank you very much... I will test it tonight!!!!!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: RayDiant on March 29, 2015, 12:25:08 pm
I get errors when I download. I tried as many options as I could think of. First I tried downloading from the app store on my phone I get this error:

Error retrieving information from server [RPC: S-7 :AEC-0].

Then I tried downloading on my PC and selecting the attached phone as the device (playstore figured this out) and I get this error:

An unexpected error occurred, please try again later.

What am I missing here? I have approval. I get the google+ posts. I can get to all the links in the first post???

Mark

Oops, really really dumb reason, but it took me 3 days to figure it out.

JRemote is now working on my phone. First few minutes, looks great

Mark
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on March 29, 2015, 01:09:54 pm
“Keep screen always on“ is not working. While being on Playing Now page, screen switches off after about 10 seconds automatically, although setting is “keep on“...
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 29, 2015, 01:42:06 pm
Try generating a new Access Key by turning Media Network off and back on in MC's options.
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Al ex on March 29, 2015, 02:53:19 pm
Try generating a new Access Key by turning Media Network off and back on in MC's options.
I was referring to the screen of my mobile phone. So the “screen on“ feature of JRemote is for keeping on the screen of my active zone?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on March 29, 2015, 02:55:28 pm
“Keep screen always on“ is not working. While being on Playing Now page, screen switches off after about 10 seconds automatically, although setting is “keep on“...
It is probably not yet hooked up.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: flac.rules on March 29, 2015, 03:19:58 pm
Is 20.0.5 the newest version? I still have probelms with playing now. The cover art is not showing. It doesn't always show the which songs are empty, and playing now is emtpy if I use a different device to connect later. (that is I use device 1 to populate playing now, and then use jremote on device 2, nothing will show on playing now)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: TopDownDriver on March 29, 2015, 04:07:57 pm
So, layout is good and seems quite intuitive.

Ran into the following problem.

First, I have a lot of albums so I will often use search to find them.  For example I have a lot of multi-channel recordings labeled "Multi".  When I searched for them, they showed just fine.  However, when attempting to select one of them, instead of the album I clicked on being selected, the album which occupied that screen location prior to the search was selected. 

I suspect the array is not populating the data correctly.

Will continue to test.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: justsomeguy on March 29, 2015, 06:11:05 pm
The short amount of time I've had to play with it it seems to be working fairly well.

I was wondering if there will be an option to set the user in jremote like you can in MC and on a "full" MC client? I'm really missing this option in gizmo and eos as well. If I set the server to the user I have set for kids so they can only access "approved" content on their tablet that causes me and anyone else to only see the same restricted content. Where as on a full MC client it can be set independent of the server setting.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: jhermosillo on March 29, 2015, 10:05:37 pm
The progress bar on the JRemote interface has time lapsed on left and time remaining on right, but the time remaining can exceed the total duration of the track as shown on the PC MC20 interface.  It can differ by several minutes.


I've noticed this as well!

Jherm
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Mastiff on March 30, 2015, 01:12:39 am
Is there a time frame for when this will go into "open beta" (which in my opinion is the state just about everything on any app store is in...)? I would like to try it out, but I'm antisocial, so no Google+ (or Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat... forums is as social as I get!).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on March 30, 2015, 06:40:09 am
OK I found another glitch.  I have two MC "Servers".  When the app is controlling the one where all the music is stored on the first PC (PC1) the cover art shows up fine everywhere on the app interface, but when controlling the Server on PC2 (which loads the library across the LAN from PC1) the cover art shows up in the thumbnails, but not when wanting to see it in full size by tapping the thumbnail at bottom left.  Then I just see a kind of generic background with a colour fade from top to bottom.

This is a bug in MC, and will be fixed in an upcoming version.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mattkhan on March 30, 2015, 09:01:40 am
I was wondering if there will be an option to set the user in jremote like you can in MC and on a "full" MC client? I'm really missing this option in gizmo and eos as well. If I set the server to the user I have set for kids so they can only access "approved" content on their tablet that causes me and anyone else to only see the same restricted content. Where as on a full MC client it can be set independent of the server setting.
+1
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mattkhan on March 30, 2015, 09:04:17 am
minor issue noticed today; the playing now screen doesn't respect the android back button (nexus 6 running android 5.1)

generally speaking this looks great though, quite some distance ahead of gizmo in looks & functionality (ignoring the bits that don't work)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sejethomas on March 30, 2015, 02:17:54 pm
Looking good! It seems to be an overall improvement from gizmo (which says a lot!)

I have some suggestions for improvement:
 - Enable the possibility to control the volume with hardware keys
 - When in the root of "Audio" and searching it should just search in all "folders"
 - When looking at "Now Playing" and I press the hardware back-button nothing happens (I would expect it to behave as pressing the "cross" in upper left corner)
 - Browsing under "Artist" and I find someone with multiple albums it would be nice with an all-tracks-option 

What is the expected pricetag when done?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: TunaOnToast on March 31, 2015, 09:26:24 am
I've installed the beta on my Samsung Note 4 and it works very well. I also tried installing JRemote on my tablet. My tablet is a few years old. Its's a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. I does run Android ICS 4.0.4. However when I'm going to install JRemote I get a message saying that this app does not support this device.
Will I be able to run JRemote on this device with that android version or will I have to look for a new tablet?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Castius on March 31, 2015, 09:52:51 am
Will we be able to control the thumbnail size? Both list and grid are too small.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: sejethomas on March 31, 2015, 10:22:41 am
Found another issue:
When in "Artist" and searching, and I click on one it is like you "press-though" the search, meaning that I end up going into the artist that was on that particular spot before I searched.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: yoyoc on March 31, 2015, 07:35:05 pm
Regards all.

I have downloaded JRemote for android on my Nexus 10 tablet and my  Moto G.

Function wise I have not note anything different than some of whats been commented already.

The only things that jump to mind to me are:

1. In the tablet the cover art,  menus,  and action bars are not scaling to the adecquate proportions for use.  They are too small.

The app looks as it was made for a phone and not scaled for the larger screen and higher resolution of the tablet.

2. There is no provision for Chromecasting.

Also,  sometimes it take long for play to start.

I am attaching 2 screen shorts.

All in all great work.


Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: firedog on April 01, 2015, 02:12:50 am
Will those of us who paid for the beta get a discount when the official version is launched?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 01, 2015, 02:14:53 am
When you purchased the beta, you will automatically get the full version at no extra charge.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: zxsix on April 01, 2015, 09:09:13 am
Rating stars on Playing Now do not correlate with the number of rating stars on the meta info page of the same song.

Changing the rating stars in playing now doesn't seem to update the rating field in the database either.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: yoyoc on April 01, 2015, 04:09:36 pm
 ?
Title: Re:
Post by: kamimeguro on April 01, 2015, 04:59:11 pm
Minor bug: when playing a playlist with some files without cover art, the play now screen keeps the precedent played image, which is not correct.
Cheers
Kami
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 02, 2015, 04:27:56 am
A new version is on its way to the Play Store, it will be available in a couple hours, so please be a bit patient if it doesn't show up for you immediately.
Changes as follows:

20.0.6 / 6 (04/02/2015)

1. Fixed: Selecting a search result in the Browse activity would not select the correct entry.
2. Fixed: JRemote properly restores its state after being suspended by the OS (ie. after long inactivity).
3. Fixed: The rating shown on the metadata screen was not reflecting the actual rating.
4. Fixed: Audio playback would not always start reliably.
5. Fixed: Rating changes from the Playing Now or Metadata activity are properly saved to the MC database.

--
Again a lot of work went into refactoring some of the backend code, which did fix a few issues that people reported here.
Stability of the app should be really good now, at least I haven't noticed any weird crashes anymore, and there are no reports on the Play Store either.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Matt on April 02, 2015, 06:12:49 am
Do APE files play now without monkeying with the settings?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Mastiff on April 02, 2015, 06:49:49 am
Oh god, Matt... You had to make me laugh so hard I spilled my coke!  ;D
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 02, 2015, 06:52:58 am
Do APE files play now without monkeying with the settings?

Monkeying should come natural to you, so I don't understand the problem? :)
But, no.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: JimH on April 02, 2015, 07:27:05 am
It would be good if they did.
Title: Re:
Post by: GreggP on April 02, 2015, 10:05:46 am
I have "use native audio format" enabled. I had 50,000+ WMA lossless tracks that didn't play because I assume they aren't natively supported in Android. So over the past several days I've converted them to flac. Now I've discovered that some of the flac files don't play unless I disable "use native audio format".

After converting the non-native compliant flac to flac again, they play fine with the setting enabled.

Is there any specific setting I need to use when creating or converting to flac? Is there any way to identify these non-compliant flac files, so I can create a smartlist and batch convert them?

BTW, many years ago I ripped my CDs to WMA lossless. I switched to flac around 2006. I also purchase some downloadable music from places like Bandcamp, who offer their music in flac format. I also use a variety of apps for ripping. So my encoding method may not be consistent.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 02, 2015, 10:08:02 am
If you happen to find a FLAC file that doesn't play for you, could you share one with me? Preferably to hendrik at jriver dot com.
In any case, its possible that Android doesn't do 24-bit in FLAC, or high sample rates, or a combination of the two.
Title: Re: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: GreggP on April 02, 2015, 10:18:09 am
If you happen to find a FLAC file that doesn't play for you, could you share one with me? Preferably to hendrik at jriver dot com.
In any case, its possible that Android doesn't do 24-bit in FLAC, or high sample rates, or a combination of the two.

I will after I run across one again. The last album was a 2 cd set. They were your basic 2 channel, 16 bit, 44.1 KHz flacs.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: yoyoc on April 02, 2015, 10:23:25 am
I can not remote connect to my server using the server code as i can on gizmo.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 02, 2015, 10:25:19 am
Quote
I can not remote connect to my server using the server code as i can on gizmo.
i had this problem when jremote was first released, only fix for me was going to the server and resetting the access code, then going to all devices and reconnecting/reentering new access code
Title: Re:
Post by: GreggP on April 02, 2015, 10:34:22 am
I just ran a little test. With "use native audio format" enabled, I was able to play these bitdepth and sample rates:

24/44.1 (from HDCD CDs)
24/48
24/88.2
24/96

So, Android doesn't seem to have a problem with these higher resolution flac files.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: AVTechMan on April 02, 2015, 02:46:09 pm
Has anyone been successful in getting video files to play? I'm able to access my server in and outside of my home network but just has the spinning circle without it playing anything when a file is selected. I believe it's been previously mentioned as well.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Castius on April 02, 2015, 02:57:59 pm
The first time i opened JRemote. I tried to add a server. In landscape mode i couldn't hit connect.
And when rotated the phone. It will cancel all my inputs and put you back at the add server/IP window.

I was adding a server in landscape mode. You can't scroll to up.
So couldn't get to the connect button. When i rotated the phone. It sent me back

It's working now so i'm not sure whats caused it.
But you still can't scroll in landscape mode.
Title: Re: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: GreggP on April 02, 2015, 02:58:53 pm
Has anyone been successful in getting video files to play? I'm able to access my server in and outside of my home network but just has the spinning circle without it playing anything when a file is selected. I believe it's been previously mentioned as well.
I've been able to get mine to play videos, but only for about 7 seconds, at which time it displays the "Playback finished" message.
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Al ex on April 02, 2015, 03:08:49 pm
Has anyone been successful in getting video files to play? I'm able to access my server in and outside of my home network but just has the spinning circle without it playing anything when a file is selected. I believe it's been previously mentioned as well.
Same here. Tried it in my home WiFi network. But when I changed video quality from high to low, it is working.
Title: Re:
Post by: bert003 on April 02, 2015, 03:47:41 pm
While scrolling trough the recent albums list I see a A-Z on the right side of the screen.  This shouldn't be there because this isn't an alphabetical sorted list. A date indication would make sense though.
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 02, 2015, 03:59:49 pm
Same here. Tried it in my home WiFi network. But when I changed video quality from high to low, it is working.

Does it work on high on Gizmo?
Maybe your server doesn't have the horsepower to sustain high?
Title: Re: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Al ex on April 02, 2015, 04:13:04 pm
Does it work on high on Gizmo?
Maybe your server doesn't have the horsepower to sustain high?
Doesn't seem to be a JRemote issue.

Tried 3 movies in JRemote in high, 2 ok, the 3rd failed.

Same with Gizmo in high, first 2 work, the 3rd not. Gizmo said “error communicating with server“. Tried again 1 and 2 in Gizmo, in the same session and this works again. All my files are in MP4.
Title: JRemote version 2.0.6 issues with authentication Any fix for this yet"
Post by: Ekpen on April 02, 2015, 05:40:06 pm
I just waited patiently for a few more revisions. As I reported earlier , I am still not able to use JRemote with authentication enabled. I get error message" Invalid user name or password". JRemote detects my IP(s) correctly, but does not detect other credentials. I have at one time, changed my user name and passwork vice versa for testing, with no success.

I have Gizmo and EOS using same information with no issues.

But when I disable authentication on the server, I am able to use JRemote.
Has the developer taken a look at this issue since I reported it?
I also noticed, video freezes when I used mid and high quality , my bandwidth has gone up with a new ISP.
Any way to disable authentication on the JRemote set up?
Thanks
George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 02, 2015, 05:45:07 pm
Do you have any extra fancy special characters in your username or password?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Ekpen on April 02, 2015, 07:42:45 pm
Do you have any extra fancy special characters in your username or password?

No fancy characters please. I am already bald headed, so I have no more grey hair to pull.

I have erased the info and re wrote the info several times.
Again, if Gizmo and Eos do not complain, I see why JRemote still complains about this.

Are these credentials stored anywhere in your server by chance so that you can either look it up or delete it?
Is it ok for me to send you PM in order to give you my user name and password?

I do not know what else to do. It looks simple, but becoming a pain.

Another minor complaint:

As of writing: I am playing Bee Gees One Night Only, mkv ripped with dts sound . I get error message :"Unfortunately Google service has stopped working," but the ripped bd continued for another 38 minutes without issues. At times when I get this message, JRemote will freeze.

I am really more concerned with this authentication issue.
Thanks.

George
My theory is: If my info on the server works for Gizmo and eos, why does it not work for JRemote?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 03, 2015, 04:48:00 am
I just posted a new version to the Play Store, as always it'll be a couple hours before its available to everyone.

20.0.7 / 7 (04/03/2015)

1. Changed: Revised authentication logic to be more reliable (testing appreciated).
2. Changed: Playback pauses when unplugging a headset or disconnecting a Bluetooth speaker.
3. Changed: The remote server update job pauses when JRemote is moved into the background, instead of running constantly.

--

Please let me know if this helps with the authentication problems people have been experiencing, and of course report any regressions or general issues, as before. :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: flac.rules on April 03, 2015, 07:56:16 am
Cover art is still not showing for me, version 20.0.7
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: somebike on April 03, 2015, 08:55:54 am
I tried the new update last night and star ratings now work and properly update library.  I do notice that when you look in the metadata, it seems to show all tracks as 3 stars even if they have never been rated.

Time remaining on track seemed to be accurate sometimes, but it was frequently off and I definitely observed instances where the time elapsed and time remaining added up to significantly more time than the length of the track.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mattkhan on April 03, 2015, 10:45:24 am
I noticed a minor glitch in the playing now view. Go to a zone playing music and it reports in 2 lines with the track on line 1 and the artist/album on line 2. Now switch to a video zone and line 1 is updated with the film name but line 2 is left with the data from the music zone.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Ekpen on April 03, 2015, 04:31:11 pm
I just posted a new version to the Play Store, as always it'll be a couple hours before its available to everyone.

20.0.7 / 7 (04/03/2015)

1. Changed: Revised authentication logic to be more reliable (testing appreciated).
2. Changed: Playback pauses when unplugging a headset or disconnecting a Bluetooth speaker.
3. Changed: The remote server update job pauses when JRemote is moved into the background, instead of running constantly.

--

Please let me know if this helps with the authentication problems people have been experiencing, and of course report any regressions or general issues, as before. :)

Thanks for this update:
Using IP address: 192.168.1.11:52199    -- error message Ip address invalid,must be in the format"

Note the post 52199 will be in a separate line.
I then tried Access key: result  " Your username or password is invalid"
It detected my public IP that starts with 50.x.x.x on port 52199. It also detected my server name correctly.
I will send you a PM with the exact username and password I am currently using.
I have used different user name and password several times , when changed, I will re start MC. It does not matter what I use, it results in  errors.

Thanks again.
George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 03, 2015, 04:48:41 pm
Login works perfectly for me, and the only possible explanation would've been if you used special chars in your user or password, which you don't. So I don't know what is wrong for you.
You should verify that your keyboard doesn't add spaces in the username field or something.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Ekpen on April 03, 2015, 05:47:07 pm
Login works perfectly for me, and the only possible explanation would've been if you used special chars in your user or password, which you don't. So I don't know what is wrong for you.
You should verify that your keyboard doesn't add spaces in the username field or something.

Did you use the info I sent you to try to log in?
I will try using the on screen keyboard on this Asus Allinone PC.
If it does not work, I will let it rest. I still have Gizmo and eos. I am waiting for Linux platform to get matured a bit before  shutting down the Windows 8.1 server. May be I will get lucky with the Linux platform.

Thanks a lot for trying to resolve this issue for me.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- problems authenticating access key - Resolved
Post by: Ekpen on April 04, 2015, 01:16:00 pm
Login works perfectly for me, and the only possible explanation would've been if you used special chars in your user or password, which you don't. So I don't know what is wrong for you.
You should verify that your keyboard doesn't add spaces in the username field or something.

Update as of 04/03/2015.

On the Asus Pc, which I think is not the problem, I erased the info and used the on screen keyboard to type in same info.
On the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 handset, I noticed the default keyboard was US keyboard, I changed this to Samsung keyboard. I also disabled  auto spacing and auto punctuate options.

Issue reported was fixed.

Thanks so much Hendrik.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 04, 2015, 01:18:03 pm
In the next version, it'll also trim spaces off the username, since that seems to be a common problem with some Android keyboards, they try to be smart and ruin everything. ;)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Ekpen on April 04, 2015, 01:47:53 pm
In the next version, it'll also trim spaces of the username, since that seems to be a common problem with some Android keyboards, they try to be smart and ruin everything. ;)

I am very happy to note that you are on top of this.

Again, a billion thanks.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 04, 2015, 03:16:44 pm
could of sworn when i downloaded beta, theater remote was an option.
has this been removed? moved? will it be coming back?
thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 04, 2015, 03:20:05 pm
The option was removed since it didn't do anything yet and was just confusing.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 04, 2015, 03:30:22 pm
aww ok thanks.
assuming you'll be re-adding it when time allows for it?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Ekpen on April 04, 2015, 05:23:43 pm
The option was removed since it didn't do anything yet and was just confusing.

Glad it was removed.  It was not loading the theater view remote well we used to know.

I will like to ask for two missing features that eos has, but will be good for JRemote as well.

In eos options settings: there is "Expand Drawer on Connect". I noticed if this is checked, when I play 4.3 movies (DVD) it fills up  the screen making it look like a 16x9 aspect ratio.

Dynamic playing Now colors .. this changes the background of playing now based on the cover art.
Thanks.
George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mojave on April 04, 2015, 10:32:04 pm
The Date Imported, Date Created, Date Modified, and Last Played tags aren't formated in an understandable way in the Metadata screen.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on April 05, 2015, 02:41:19 pm
“Screen always on“ doesn't work. Display is switching off completely during playing now.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: hoyt on April 05, 2015, 06:15:34 pm
Posted this on the G+ group, then noticed the note about issue tracking here, so I'm moving it over to this thread:

I just installed the app and went to setup my server connections and noticed an issue.  I have two different JRiver installs, one that I expose to the outside world (server) and one that I do not (HTPC).  The HTPC reads the server's library, but I never connect to that one outside of my network.  I wasn't paying attention and typed in the HTPC's access key from my 4g connection.  It proceeded to tell me I was connected, but I was really connected to the other access key on my network (the server).

Once I connected to my wifi, I needed to delete the duplicate server from JRemote and re-add the HTPC key.  It's worth noting that when I looked at the two servers in JRemote, they had different access keys, but pointed to the same IP (my external IP).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: rwpritchett on April 05, 2015, 07:12:07 pm
Running 20.0.7 and still have the following bugs on a Galaxy Tab 4:

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hanske on April 06, 2015, 03:13:28 am
Installed yesterday. First impressions are good. Minor bug: after import ing CD and reopening by artist cover art was in de wrong place. Everything shifted one place. So Bjork's name was under Blixa Bargeld's coverart etc. etc.. A.. up to Bjork no problems. Restarting the app solved it. Android 5.0.1 Nvidia Shield Tablet. Keep up the good work ;)

PS Also posted on Google+ (sorry)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: flac.rules on April 06, 2015, 11:03:17 am
Volume doesn't seem to get updated quick enough, so the program gets a bit confusing to use when volume protection is one.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: somebike on April 06, 2015, 11:45:40 am
The last update seems to have corrected the time remaining on track issue.  As mentioned, the screen remain on function still does not work.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on April 06, 2015, 01:13:08 pm
Playing Now: Assigning a rating to a movie updates the star rating on the meta data page. But changing the number of stars on the meta page doesn't change the rating on Playing Now.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: ragnar on April 06, 2015, 02:01:43 pm
Installed a week ago on Nexus 10 and Nexus 7, seems to work OK so far. Only glaring issue is the UI of the Playing Now screen - can't seem to use the back button to back out of either screen, have to use the Close X control. Not sure if this is as designed but it is very ...irritating.

I have had some issues with volume control occasionally not being very responsive - can't reliably duplicate what is happening yet so will have to wait a bit to comment further on this area of the software.

Otherwise very happy! Keep up the good work

Ragnar.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on April 06, 2015, 03:47:16 pm
After playing a movie: selecting Clear Playlist doesn't clear the playlist.

EDIT: found out that the HTPC already went to sleep, so I cannot change anything anymore on Playing Now? Would be good to have a status symbol somewhere regarding the current connection status...
Title: Re:
Post by: Hendrik on April 06, 2015, 03:52:46 pm
After playing a movie: selecting Clear Playlist doesn't clear the playlist.

Controlling a remote zone, I assume?
It does seem to do that here, although it needs to talk to the server first, so the UI interaction isn't instantaneous.
Title: Re: Re:
Post by: Al ex on April 06, 2015, 03:54:29 pm
Controlling a remote zone, I assume?
It does seem to do that here, although it needs to talk to the server first, so the UI interaction isn't instantaneous.
Just edited my post, while you were answering, Hendrik.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 07, 2015, 02:48:43 am
Well if the server you are connected to is sleeping, then no matter what JRemote tries, it of course cannot do anything with the server anymore. ;)

Handling of lost connections still needs some work, and at least some sort of indication in the UI that an error occured, but all in good time!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 07, 2015, 08:21:39 am
A new version is on its way to the Play Store. As always, it'll take a couple hours for everyone to get the update.

20.0.8 / 8 (04/07/2015)

1. Fixed: Playing Now properly resets the Cover Art when a track without Cover Art is being played.
2. Fixed: The Player Bar at the bottom of the screen in the Browse/Track List activity properly resets the album/artist line when no values are available.
3. Fixed: "Screen Always On" was not functional.
4. Fixed: The Browse activity would reset back to the root when rotating the screen or dismissing the application.
5. Fixed: The floating action buttons on the Track list would only show after scrolling down and back up.
6. Changed: The "Add Server" activity can be scrolled in landscape view (until it can be properly optimized for wide screens).
7. Fixed: Using the "Back" key on the Playing Now activity did not work.
8. Fixed: Changing the Rating on the Metadata activity didn't properly reflect on the Playing Now activity.

--

We've also decided to publish this version to "production", which means its now available through the Play Store to everyone, without the Beta sign-up requirement.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: flac.rules on April 07, 2015, 10:15:52 am
Still having problems with cover art here, reproduced on severa devices. Shows up in list, shows up in metadata, but doesn't show up in the big "playing now"-windows. Just some blurry grey and blue image.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 07, 2015, 10:59:36 am
Still having problems with cover art here, reproduced on severa devices. Shows up in list, shows up in metadata, but doesn't show up in the big "playing now"-windows. Just some blurry grey and blue image.

You will need a newer version of MC that should be available soon.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: kamimeguro on April 07, 2015, 11:49:55 pm
1. Fixed: Playing Now properly resets the Cover Art when a track without Cover Art is being played.
...

Thanks Hendrik, it works now.

Questions:
Is there a plan to select the number of files downloaded ahead of playing (like in Gizmo)? or what is the basic buffer size when playing on the device?
Is there a way or plan to select the audio format based on the zone? i.e. native for local zone (when I use my device as a controller) but audio quality reduced for playing to the device? Or may be the stream quality selection works only when playing on the device?

Very good experience so far!
Kami

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: Hendrik on April 08, 2015, 01:21:10 am
The quality option in the JRemote settings is only for streaming to the device, if you control a remote zone, the settings in MC are always used.
I don't have any concrete plans for the audio cache thing that we had in Gizmo. It may return, it may not. It was kind of a hack. But maybe it will give me a chance to re-implement it more cleanly.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on April 08, 2015, 01:26:18 am
Hendrik, compared to Gizmo, not having the pre-cache in JRemote would really be a downgrade, if you are coming from Gizmo. This feature often let me enjoy music on flights at least for some extended time, though not connected to the Internet.
Title: Re:
Post by: kamimeguro on April 08, 2015, 01:49:43 am
Thank you Hendrik,

Will wait too for development in the pre-cache which was usefull while traveling.
Cheers
Kami
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Castius on April 08, 2015, 10:18:11 am
I would agree. I would even like to see the pre caching improved.
Subsonic app is still much better at this.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 08, 2015, 12:29:59 pm
Just downloaded 20.0.8, and I'm seeing the same playing now issues that were supposed to be fixed a few builds back?

The playing now is completely blank when using JRemote as a remote control, but works fine with local playback on the device.  Do I need a more recent version of MC for this to work? I'm testing on my work JRiver box, which is on 20.0.81.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mr. Odd on April 08, 2015, 04:49:55 pm
Using the latest version, play stats don't get updated using JRemote to play locally on my phone.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 08, 2015, 05:47:59 pm
Are you using a login and password?  The server won't be updated unless you use authentication on the server.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mr. Odd on April 08, 2015, 05:49:02 pm
I'm not using authentication, but other remotes (Gizmo, eos) don't require it to update the play stats.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audiolover on April 09, 2015, 03:04:31 am
Is there a minimum Android version for the app to work?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 09, 2015, 04:02:00 am
Is there a minimum Android version for the app to work?

Its mentioned in the first post of this thread, as well as in the Play Store. Currently we require 4.1

Just downloaded 20.0.8, and I'm seeing the same playing now issues that were supposed to be fixed a few builds back?

The playing now is completely blank when using JRemote as a remote control, but works fine with local playback on the device.  Do I need a more recent version of MC for this to work? I'm testing on my work JRiver box, which is on 20.0.81.

If you're experiencing odd issues, testing with everything updated to the latest is always a good course of action. :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 09, 2015, 06:12:40 am
If you're experiencing odd issues, testing with everything updated to the latest is always a good course of action. :)

I tried on an up to date build; I'm still getting the same issue with the latest build.  No cover art in playing now when using JRemote for remote control.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 09, 2015, 06:16:00 am
Define up-to-date, 89 or newer?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 09, 2015, 06:43:40 am
Define up-to-date, 89 or newer?

It's the latest beta build, definitely newer than .89.  Any troubleshooting steps I can try?  I verified that the albums have art, and that the art shows up in Gizmo.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 09, 2015, 06:54:17 am
It uses a simple MCWS query to the server, "File/GetImage?file=<ID>&type=full&Format=jpg", on the other hand, local playback uses the same call, so I have no idea why that would be much different.
Seems to work for everyone else though.

Is only cover art missing, or any info about the track? That wasn't very clear from your posts.

Maybe you have zone switch active and are trying to play to a particular zone, but it actually plays in a different zone?
Any other particular complex things about your setup?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 09, 2015, 07:11:33 am
It uses a simple MCWS query to the server, "File/GetImage?file=<ID>&type=full&Format=jpg", on the other hand, local playback uses the same call, so I have no idea why that would be much different.
Seems to work for everyone else though.

Is only cover art missing, or any info about the track? That wasn't very clear from your posts.

Both Cover art and any info about the track is also missing.  Playing Now is basically blank.  I also just saw some additional disturbing behavior:  When I play a file the album artist and the art in the file are actually being changed to empty in the library! So far it's 100% reproducible here.  Steps to repro:

1) I open a file view where I can see the album art and the album artist tags. 
2) I then initiate playback, and I can watch as the album artist tags go blank one by one as the tracks get played, and then the art starts disappearing.

So it looks like it's not a matter of JRemote not getting the Art, it's actually overwriting the art with a blank (or otherwise removing it).

To specify the exact playback chain: I'm using JRemote to control playback on a client zone, not directly on the server if that matters.  Both server and client are on the latest beta.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 09, 2015, 07:17:55 am
Here's a screen grab illustrating what I'm talking about:

When I started playback of this album all tracks had an Album Artist tag, and the view at the top showed the correct cover art.  I re-entered the album artist info for 1 and 2 wondering if I'd somehow forgotten to populate them, and then saw track 3's album artist tag vanish as the track changed.  It's now playing the fifth track, and the first five files appear to have no art in them.

I checked and every other file I've tried playing with JRemote had the album artist emptied, and cover art wasn't showing in views.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 09, 2015, 08:02:12 am
That seems unlikely. JRemote only has one writing MCWS call, and its only executed specifically when you press the "Save" button on the metadata view.
In any case, without being able to reproduce anything, I can only guess, and guessing doesn't get me anywhere.

Are you actually connected to the server, and controlling a client zone from there, or connected to the client?
Please always be extra precise when reporting bugs and explaining your setup. I cannot guess or remember everyones setup, unfortunately, and what I cannot reproduce or at least understand, I cannot fix.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 09, 2015, 08:13:45 am
That seems unlikely. JRemote only has one writing MCWS call, and its only executed specifically when you press the "Save" button on the metadata view.
In any case, without being able to reproduce anything, I can only guess, and guessing doesn't get me anywhere.

I can only tell you what I'm seeing, let me know if logs or a video would help.  It's currently 100% reproducible here, which is convenient for testing.

Quote
Are you actually connected to the server, and controlling a client zone from there, or connected to the client?

I was actually connected to the server, controlling a client zone from the server when I observed the behavior.

I just tested when connected to the client directly and it did not exhibit exactly the same behavior (playing now is still blank, but no tags are altered), which is a good workaround for me for now.

I switched back to the server, and, when playing to client zones I still get the same behavior, tags are getting emptied as I watch.  Let me know what I can do on my end.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 09, 2015, 08:21:19 am
Remote controlling client zones like that uses DLNA, since MC doesn't have a built-in function for that otherwise, AFAIK.
Doesn't sound like its related to what JRemote could potentially be doing. When you actually remote control the same zones from your server directly, I assume this doesn't happen, though? Although I wouldn't be surprised if it still happened.

Probably some crazyness with DLNA, not JRemote.

You could enable logging on the server, restart the server to start fresh, and then try to reproduce, and then snapshot a log, so that its as short as possible.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 09, 2015, 08:39:12 am
Remote controlling client zones like that uses DLNA, since MC doesn't have a built-in function for that otherwise, AFAIK.
Doesn't sound like its related to what JRemote could potentially be doing. When you actually remote control the same zones from your server directly, I assume this doesn't happen, though? Although I wouldn't be surprised if it still happened.

Probably some crazyness with DLNA, not JRemote.

Good catch, it's DLNA-related for sure, the same thing is now happening in Gizmo as well and with direct control from the server.  

I recently (two days ago) changed my DLNA control point from one of my client HTPCs to a virtual machine on my Server, and that seems to be the critical difference.  

I tried using a client to control other client zones and there's no tag erasing problems there (although I still get a blank playing now in JRemote, but do get cover art in Gizmo).  However, when I remote control other zones from the server it exhibits this behavior every time regardless of how I start the remote-controlled playback.

I'm guessing it's a local issue to my server (which, being a VM, is a definite edge case), sorry to derail.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Alobar on April 10, 2015, 01:50:39 pm
Just started using JRemote yesterday and it works great thus far on my Nexus 7. The only issue I see is what others have reported with the time slide bar and time left on the song will go into a negative number when the slider reaches the end, sometimes by a minute or greater. This app actually seems to work better (more reliably) than Gizmo does on my tablet. Gizmo would after a time playing would reboot the tablet whereas I haven't noticed that occurring with JRemote even after several hours of listening.
One of my favorite features is the volume adjust on the glass instead of the volume rocker bar which on my tablet is hard find quickly and use. I always seem to push the rocker the wrong way causing a big increase in volume right when the phone is ringing or my wife is yelling at me for something.. .  ;D
To everyone working on this app, thanks and well done!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 10, 2015, 01:54:50 pm
Galaxy S4. video does not play (playing to device) it just spins.
works on eos/gizmo perfectly.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 10, 2015, 09:02:13 pm
JRemote uses the exact same video streaming as Gizmo. Make sure your server can actually serve the selected quality in real-time. If its much too slow, video might never even start.

Please note that video isn't a main focus at this point in the development of JRemote for Android. It'll be looked at and finished later.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 10, 2015, 09:40:56 pm
just an FYI (for your notes) all 3 apps are set to medium,  i tried bringing jremote to low, and it spun for over 5 minutes and never played the file/S ( i tried multiple files/types even a small 30mb file) and no go.

all files tested played on gizmo/eos and in medium and high mode.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Inquisition on April 12, 2015, 02:11:57 am
Yesterday when I hear music I see that the remaining time of the tracks didn't show correct in playing now window.

The first track I heard the remaining time we're shown correctly, when the next track starts the time will not start new and show the time of the new track, it runs the time of the first track again and will go to minus (for example - 00.20     - 00.55      -02.22 and so on).
The correct time only shows when I leave for a short moment the playing now window and go back to it.

I don't know if this already is a known error so I post it.


Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: trazom on April 12, 2015, 11:16:56 am
Thank you very much for this great app - just bought it and already found almost everything I need - keep on!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: dodesign on April 13, 2015, 01:52:15 am
Dear JRiver/JRemote,
 
Thanks for bring this jremote to Android.
I use jremote with jriver for years and I really love them. I run JRiver on Windows Server 2012 with Audiophile Optimizer. With iOS JRemote I can use with my setup with no problem. But with current of Android version, JRiver just stop connection with jremote after a few sec when I try to list my album on jremote. Album cover showed on screen for a few album then it just stop. After this only restarting my pc can let JRemote(iOS) connect to JRiver again.

I just move from iphone to Samsung Note4. I hope this Android version will get to perfect working like iOS version soon..

Best Regards,
Supachai C.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: hoyt on April 13, 2015, 09:36:16 am
Posted this on the G+ group, then noticed the note about issue tracking here, so I'm moving it over to this thread:

I just installed the app and went to setup my server connections and noticed an issue.  I have two different JRiver installs, one that I expose to the outside world (server) and one that I do not (HTPC).  The HTPC reads the server's library, but I never connect to that one outside of my network.  I wasn't paying attention and typed in the HTPC's access key from my 4g connection.  It proceeded to tell me I was connected, but I was really connected to the other access key on my network (the server).

Once I connected to my wifi, I needed to delete the duplicate server from JRemote and re-add the HTPC key.  It's worth noting that when I looked at the two servers in JRemote, they had different access keys, but pointed to the same IP (my external IP).

FYI - I had this issue again.  

The HTPC was off, the server was on, but I was on my local wifi.  I opened JRemote, connected to the HTPC, but JRemote was pulling the library, view, etc from the server.  JRemote showed the library key for the HTPC, but was showing all the info from the other device on my network.  It's like JRemote validates the username/ password, local IP, then outside IP, but doesn't validate the library key when connecting.

To solve this, I had to close JRemote, turn on the HTPC, wait for it to boot up, then reconnect with JRemote.  Then it connected to the HTPC and not the server.  When I would do this with Gizmo, it would attempt to connect to the local IP, send a wake up packet, then give me a "could not connect" message until the HTPC was on.  

Thanks!

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: rikirk on April 14, 2015, 10:16:59 pm
Hi there.
I would like to know if switching libraries is going to be a feature of JRemote for Android in the near future. I use the app daily on lollipop to run my main system and I am very happy with the first beta release. Thank you for the hard work!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: TopDownDriver on April 15, 2015, 11:33:29 pm
Found an issue when viewing my library on JRemote - Android.  I have several albums called "Duet" that are all from different artists.  While they exist fine in JRiver with different Album Artists, they are concatenated in JRemote - so I now have it shown as one album call Duets with 70+ tracks.

Can this be addressed?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on April 16, 2015, 05:15:06 am
Just reporting that after an auto-update to MC 20.0.93, the full sized cover art issue that I posted about previously seems to have been resolved.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on April 17, 2015, 01:59:47 am
Finally I'm in! And I must say I love it!  ;D One thing, though (leave it to me to find something related to zones...): It takes around 10-15 seconds from choosing a new zone and until it shows in the playback window. Isn't that a bit long? Gizmo does jump back to the home screen when I change zones, but when I go into the Playing Now within a second or two (as fast as I can press the screen, really) it will have changed to the correct zone, with the correct track being ready. If it matters this computer has 12 zones.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on April 17, 2015, 06:32:48 am
Installed 20.0.8 on two Android devices last night (5.01 and 5.1).

Took a few minutes for me to get it to connect to either my MC (20.0.93) or one of my JRiver installs running as DNLA renderers (also 20.0.93); all running on Windows 7.

Restarted the App and generally 'fiddled' with it a bit and it made the connection to all 3 devices. Once I got it  connected it then took a while/bit of fiddling to get the players to appear as actual 'Players' and have the content streamed to them rather than play on the actual MC itself (which has no audio output devices attached!).

So it took me longer than with Gizmo to get the 'source' and play to 'destination' working, but I think I understand it now and have got it to JRemote to reconnect to the last used settings when re-launched so that helps with being able to remote control things really quickly when I want to start playing music again after it's been stopped.

A few points I've seen while playing with it:
1) Took me ages to find the 'play list' screen. I could clearly see the currently playing screen, but didn't think to swipe left to see the 'list screen' as nothing hinted at it being there. . .
2) The time remaining goes negative on streaming radio (other people have reported negative times as well)
3) The "Frequency/bits kb/s" information (bottom right) is not so useful when streaming radio, sometimes they are all '0' sometimes just blank, sometimes I have frequency and bits but no kb/s. It depends on the meta data for that steam saved in the playlist, but it might be worth tailoring what's displayed depending on what metadata is available.
4) In the meta data display I'm assuming there's a typeo as I see "Compressio" rather than "Compression".

The on screen volume control is an excellent feature, something that I always felt was missing from Gizmo.

Not sure if this would be possible. but it would be nice to see the 'Audio Path' feature implemented just so I can verify it's still 'blue'. (One of my renderers restarted after installing windows updates and as the USB DAC was powered off JRiver defaulted to the JRiver output device. I thought things didn't sound correct. I had to 'remote' onto windows on the renderer and see what was wrong - my just be my fault for not having my "Windows 'ID'" set up in an optimal way  :) )

All in all a nice App, just took me a little bit of perseverance to work it all out from cold.

Spike

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 17, 2015, 07:08:29 am
A new build is on its way to the Play Store. As always, it'll be a few hours until its available everywhere.

20.0.9 / 9 (04/17/2015)

1. Fixed: Playing an unsupported format with native playback enabled will automatically use transcoding.
2. NEW: Support for the Hardware Volume Up/Down buttons.
3. Fixed: Switching zone will properly refresh the Playing Now cover art.
4. Changed: Duration/Remaining Time in Playing Now will be hidden when not available, instead of showing negative numbers.

------

Regarding (1), the only native formats right now are MP3, AAC and FLAC.
Currently, we are limited by the format support of Android and the built-in MediaPlayer, but we may extend this further in the future.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ericchoicw on April 17, 2015, 11:02:41 am
Hi

I am downloaded JRemote for my Samsung Note 4, but could not connect to the server.
My computer' OS is Windows 7 and using  ESET Smart Security 8 Antivirus sofware.
My Router is TP-link AC 750 and was set the port forwarding to 52199.
I don't known which proceedure was wrong, can you help me?

Thanks.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 17, 2015, 12:25:06 pm
I will move this to a new thread later.

Are you connecting from your own LAN or from another location?

Please see the wiki topic on Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audiolover on April 17, 2015, 12:27:50 pm
Is it possible to make the next release Android 4.0 compatible?
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Al ex on April 17, 2015, 12:31:59 pm
Is it possible to make the next release Android 4.0 compatible?
You mean Android 5 ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audiolover on April 17, 2015, 12:35:39 pm
No, I mean 4.0. I want to use my older tablet.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 17, 2015, 01:49:02 pm
There are no plans to lower the requirement at this time. We use a bunch of functionality only available in 4.1 and up.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: drc on April 17, 2015, 03:36:54 pm
Can someone clarify and point me in the right direction regarding Gizmo...

Got it up an running... like how it works but need clarification.

What's the difference between the New Gizmo ($7.99) and the Free Gizmo... the free gizmo I've tested only thing it disconnects sometimes, but I'm fairly new to streaming.  Took me a moment to configure port...

If the new Gizmo makes a smoother connection, I'll buy it...  Will there be a trial Gizmo?

Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on April 18, 2015, 04:44:29 am
FYI. . .
20.0.9 - Reproducible crash:

Audio | Playlists | Smartlists | Audio-All then tap the search magnifying glass (the items have not loaded at this point).

'Unfortunately , JRemote has stopped'

Seems to crash on any Smartlist that has not yet displayed the items in the list and 'search' is selected.

Android 5.01 and 5.1

Spike
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ericchoicw on April 18, 2015, 04:47:27 am
Hi JimH

I am connecting to my own LAN.

I was followed the procedure to set the port, the firewall and the MC, but still could not connect ?

Thank you for you reply.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on April 18, 2015, 05:22:30 am
Scroll Bars:

It might just be my 'fat fingers' or the small screens on my phone/tablet but I find the 'hot spot' for the tiny scroll bars is a bit on the small side so it's a bit and miss at times when you want to scroll 'super fast' to the bottom of a long long list.

Gizmo has a translucent square that appears after a second and presents a bigger 'hot spot' for my finger and seems to provide a more accurate scroll experience than JRemote at the moment.

Only been using the app for a day or so now, but it's working well.

Cheers

Spike
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on April 18, 2015, 05:28:04 am
I am connecting to my own LAN.

I was followed the procedure to set the port, the firewall and the MC, but still could not connect ?

Have you tried to see if Gizmo will connect?

Have you tried restarting your tablet?

Took me a couple of goes to get JRemote to 'settle' and see everything it should, been fine ever since.

Spike
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on April 18, 2015, 05:39:33 am
20.0.9

JRemote seems to forget the 'view' selected when viewing an album track listing when the album is changed. It defaults back to "one line of text, no thumbnail" for the new album.

I use the 2nd setting "3 lines of text and thumbnail" as I like to see the artist rather than just the track for compilations. (the 3rd setting is thumbnails with text underneath)

Can there be an option under settings for the "default track list display" or can JRemote remember the last setting selected and not apply the default every time a new album track listing is displayed?

Cheers

Spike
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 18, 2015, 07:11:03 am
Hi JimH

I am connecting to my own LAN.

I was followed the procedure to set the port, the firewall and the MC, but still could not connect ?

Thank you for you reply.
If the phone and the computer are on the same LAN, you don't need to do anything with the router.

Just turn on Media Network on the computer in MC's options, then use the Access Key you get there when you run the remote on your phone.

The wiki has topics on Access Key and Media Network.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ravanello on April 18, 2015, 10:05:06 am
Can I install JRemote for 2 devices ( phone and tablet) ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Bebop0502 on April 18, 2015, 10:53:31 am
Gizmo works but I can't open the new JRemote. It asks for user name and access key (6 characters). I use the same as I have for Gizmo and what is visble in options/media network. The reply I get back is that "it has to be 6 caracters". But it is and I know no other user name or key of 6 characters.

I'm running W8.1 and Samsung Galaxy.

What is wrong?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 18, 2015, 10:55:39 am
There was another similar problem reported about a week ago and it had to do with the way the data was entered.  Something was adding a space, I think.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: arixey on April 18, 2015, 11:06:26 am
I just installed this on my Moto X (first generation).  It works great when I'm on the same LAN as my server, but when I'm using 3g or 4g it won't play anything to the device.

I can connect to the server just fine, browse and search, everything appears to be there.  But when I try to play to my device, nothing ever gets added to the playing now list.  Pop ups appear and say that the song/album/playlist is added, but nothing ever happens.  I've tried turning transcoding on and off, and used all three quality settings.  Gizmo works fine in this situation.  Any help?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Fex on April 18, 2015, 01:45:25 pm
Gizmo works but I can't open the new JRemote. It asks for user name and access key (6 characters). I use the same as I have for Gizmo and what is visble in options/media network...

Same problems here. This helped for me:

Tools>Options>Media Network: Deacivate "Authentication". Try to connect again.
If it connects (so on my side) set in MC a second step new user name and password and try to connect again with these new ones via Galaxy.

By the way: I love it!  ;D
 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: daek on April 18, 2015, 03:19:08 pm
Hi folks!

I tested jremote but decided to not buy it because it does not have the functionality with editing metadata as is suggested.
For me there are the following issues when tagging with jremote:

1) I can only see tags with values, so how can I add a value to an empty tag?
2) Will there be an option to filter tags that I want to tag like in jriver?
3) When I changed a tag and touched 'save', the screen did note close, instead I had to touch back in android.
4) When I changed a tag with a value, that was not in the 'acceptable values' within the library, the result was that jriver just cleared the old value.

Will there be any improvements with the edit metadata functionality?

Is there any full feature description of jremote? For me it is not really clear if there is any benefit to eos...

Thx!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 18, 2015, 03:31:59 pm
just an fyi...still no successful video playback on s4.

* i'll wait to comment again, until i notice video playback in future version release mentioned.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Zhillsguy on April 18, 2015, 10:00:12 pm
Do I need to pay separately for each device it is installed on?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: nsxelent on April 19, 2015, 01:53:12 am
Loving JRemote on my Samsung Note 4 w/ portable Oppo HA-2 DAC/Amp!  So far audio, video, navigation, tag editing, ratings all work great.  Bit-perfect with native audio option sounds fantastic!  I do wish DSD/DSF files could stream to my DAC without transcoding but otherwise it's doing everything I had hoped for.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on April 19, 2015, 03:36:30 am
3. Fixed: Switching zone will properly refresh the Playing Now cover art.

Thanks! That fixed my problem too, it seems. It wasn't just the cover art, the playing track info took just as long to change. Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ericchoicw on April 19, 2015, 04:59:03 am
I got the Access Key, turn on Media Network, and I restart my phone, my router.........
But still not working, failed to connect ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 19, 2015, 06:30:59 am
Did you try the Play Store?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 19, 2015, 06:32:48 am
I got the Access Key, turn on Media Network, and I restart my phone, my router.........
But still not working, failed to connect ?
Try turning Media Network off and back on.  That will generate a new Access Key.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ericchoicw on April 20, 2015, 11:25:55 am
I tried to turn off and on the Media Network, but it generated the sam Access Key!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 20, 2015, 11:29:16 am
Quote
I tried to turn off and on the Media Network, but it generated the sam Access Key!

try to open server/ tools/options/media network/ left click Access Key, chose reset.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ericchoicw on April 20, 2015, 11:52:09 am
Yes, I reset My MC20 and Media Network. I got a new Access Key, but still failed to connect. :o
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 20, 2015, 11:55:34 am
you try by chance, clicking on test connection to server (same steps as above)
verify ports open?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: kamimeguro on April 20, 2015, 08:10:00 pm
Hi,
I have been using JRemote since quite a while on a Samsung Note II.
Even on wifi, I can't get it to play video (same as xtacbyme reported?).
Also, I am missing the bottom information bar (with the play and next command), when i swipe from playing now screen in order to get to the files list.
It it present on almost all screens but this one?
Kami
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on April 20, 2015, 10:43:51 pm
There was another similar problem reported about a week ago and it had to do with the way the data was entered.  Something was adding a space, I think.

Greetings:
That was my issue which made me crazy for almost 12 days. It is fixed now.
Check your default keyboard.. go to Input and language.
Your handset may be using US keyboard type, or just use the Samsung keyboard to key in your info.
Disable all "options" related to the keyboard.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on April 21, 2015, 04:57:41 am
Feel like an idiot here, but I tried to find the Playing now list in JRemote, and I couldn't! Isn't it there, or was I just blind? I wanted to get in there to remove a track that I had added twice by accident.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 21, 2015, 05:07:11 am
Swipe to the right on the playing now screen.

Wonder how it can be made more obvious that its there..
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on April 21, 2015, 05:09:01 am
Aha! Well, it doesn't have to be more obvious to me. I'm embarassed that I didn't think of that before. I tried swiping both up and down, but never thought about from the right!  :-[
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 21, 2015, 10:30:54 am
I'm seeing strange and inconsistent behavior when using JRemote's volume slider to remote control a system with volume protection enabled.  Sometimes it seems to ignore volume protection (which is scary), other times it seems to register a change to a higher volume in the JRemote UI, but the MC instance being controlled will report a different volume making future volume changes hard to manage (JRemote will report a volume setting that does not correspond to the actual volume setting on the remote controlled system). 

Gizmo seems to handle this issue fine, but it obviously doesn't have a graphical volume bar...
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 21, 2015, 10:40:00 am
JRemote just calls the MCWS SetVolume function, if that ignores volume protection, don't blame the poor JRemote!  :'(

A slider is always going to act funny with volume protection, as it may reset back to a lower value or something.
I should probably make it always update to MCs reported volume after a set action just to avoid any differences.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 21, 2015, 10:44:52 am
JRemote just calls the MCWS SetVolume function, if that ignores volume protection, don't blame the poor JRemote!  :'(

A slider is always going to act funny with volume protection, as it may reset back to a lower value or something.
I should probably make it always update to MCs reported volume after a set action just to avoid any differences.

Sorry if I came on a little strong; volume protection is an issue close to my heart as my living room system would put out about 110dB at 100% volume.  Anytime I see apparent volume control issues I dive for cover  ;D

I'd be happy if it worked like MC's standard view slider bar where it only moves as fast as volume protection will allow (refusing to allow too high/too fast settings, jerking the dot back to the current reported setting, etc.). 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 21, 2015, 10:55:09 am
Volume Protection seems to be working fine, with one caveat - when you drag the volume bar, JRemote increases the volume as you drag along (once every 300ms or so), not only once you let go. This can partly bypass the 5% volume protection limit if you drag or hold long enough, as it will simply send the same value again and again to MC until it reached it, in 5% increments.
Not sure if it would be better to just get rid of this "smooth" volume change, but it seems otherwise like a neat thing to have.

I also made it reliably report MCs actual volume after a volume change.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on April 21, 2015, 11:02:41 am
Volume Protection seems to be working fine, with one caveat - when you drag the volume bar, JRemote increases the volume as you drag along (once every 300ms or so), not only once you let go. This can partly bypass the 5% volume protection limit if you drag or hold long enough, as it will simply send the same value again and again to MC until it reached it, in 5% increments.
Not sure if it would be better to just get rid of this "smooth" volume change, but it seems otherwise like a neat thing to have.

I think I could see arguments either way on the behavior it only continued to increase if you continued to hold/drag.  5% at 300ms intervals still comports with the volume protection spec (no more than 20% increase per second).  What I definitely don't want is a single press and release at 80% gradually increasing the volume to 80%!  

Quote
I also made it reliably report MCs actual volume after a volume change.

I think that will resolve the biggest issue as I'd have it showing 80% when the MC instance was only showing 25% or something, and it made subsequent volume changes very confusing.  I'm pretty sure I managed to get a too quick ramp up at one point, but I may have pressed and held without fully realizing it.  
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on April 21, 2015, 03:37:19 pm
Is Android Wear support available or planned for JRemote? For Gizmo I can control the music when playing locally on my phone, but not when playing anywhere else, which is what I really want to do.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 21, 2015, 03:40:05 pm
It's probably too small a screen for JRemote.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on April 21, 2015, 04:50:25 pm
I'm not talking about the app running fully on the watch, just basic playback control. The screen is 320 x 320 pixels, big enough for reading emails and texts as well as showing my contacts' pictures when they call me, so it's big enough to show the artist/song or movie name/cover art and play/skip/volume buttons (and actually does if streaming music to the phone in Gizmo).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: kamimeguro on April 21, 2015, 09:25:50 pm
+ 1 for Android Wear support.
It partially works on Gizmo with my moto360/Samsung note. Having the possibility to control, at least my phone, would be a great feature, all zone would be super great!


Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: r3bel347 on April 22, 2015, 05:58:41 pm
Works great with Lenovo K900

Especially i can now jump forward and backward in the videos, that was not always working with gizmo for me.
The app runs really smooth, i had nearly no problems.

When i first started the app and randomly started some videos to test the functionality, after some time i had an empty menu.
I needed to restart (kill the app-process) the app to get back the menu entries (music, videos, etc...).

will there be support for selecting the audiostream and subtitles?
this is one Feature i would really like to see since i always have to use keyboard and mouse to switch between german and english audiostreams
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: rikirk on April 23, 2015, 09:34:16 am
Hi there.
I would like to know if switching libraries is going to be a feature of JRemote for Android in the near future. I use the app daily on lollipop to run my main system and I am very happy with the first beta release. Thank you for the hard work!

Bump.

I have two libraries, one called Classical the other Pop. Would it possible to switch libraries from the app? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Castius on April 23, 2015, 10:21:01 am
When playing a video. The playing now navagations over the video does not show a pause. It show a play icon.

The forward and back need an option to use the chapters data. Maybe hold for next item in playlist?

When playing and I hit back to stop playing. It does not keep my place in the video

Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: humzet on April 24, 2015, 03:44:22 am
Hi JimH

I am interested in the JRemote for Android testing, but not sure what to do.

I have an iPad which would serve as my remote. My computer is a Mac book. I assume they would communicate via bluetooth.

Is there a guide on this?

Regards

Richard
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on April 24, 2015, 07:02:51 am
You would need the iOS version of JRemote.  It's on the Apple store.  There is another thread that provides instructions.

On our wiki, you could read about the Access Key and Media Network.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on April 24, 2015, 11:03:35 am
Hi,

I decided to try it out. Just installed it on my newly re-flashed Galaxy Tab 7.7 with original JB 4.1.2 firmware. I can play videos on the tablet with Gizmo, but not with JRemote. Just hangs forever on the little waiting circle. In Gizmo, the video playback starts after a few seconds. Tried several video formats and tried high, medium and low video quality. Audio plays fine in both.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on April 24, 2015, 05:30:37 pm
By the way, just tried JRemote on my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact phone, and it won't play video on the device either. Neither does Gizmo on the phone, but Eos will play video on the phone. Eos also plays video on the tablet.

Tomorrow, I will be getting a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 to replace my old Galaxy Tab 7.7. Will report back once I test playback with all 3 apps.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 24, 2015, 06:21:04 pm
audunth, you most likely missed it (buried now) but Hendrik mentioned video is not yet setup/troubleshot.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: NoxMetus on April 25, 2015, 10:11:53 am
I'd like to suggest that the album and artist titles for now playing at the top be displayed in white like the name of the song is. As it is a darker color now, you have to turn the brightness up more to see it versus the song name, or be closer to the screen in order to read it.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: gworrel on April 25, 2015, 05:32:05 pm
I have been trying to use jremote on an inexpensive tablet. It is an ematic 7" running Android Version 4.2.2. The model number is EGQ307 and it has a Quad core A31 processor. JRemote runs but I cannot play anything to the device. When I select a song, a message flashes that "Song name" will now play. But in the lower left it says "nothing is currently playing."  Nothing ever plays. If I play to another zone, then playback starts.

Gizmo works fine on the device.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on April 25, 2015, 07:06:08 pm
I have been trying to use jremote on an inexpensive tablet. It is an ematic 7" running Android Version 4.2.2. The model number is EGQ307 and it has a Quad core A31 processor. JRemote runs but I cannot play anything to the device. When I select a song, a message flashes that "Song name" will now play. But in the lower left it says "nothing is currently playing."  Nothing ever plays. If I play to another zone, then playback starts.

Gizmo works fine on the device.

I noticed same thing a few days ago, but on going near the server, message "MC 20 has stopped". I have to close and re-start PC or MC. this was version 20.0.100.
George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: gworrel on April 26, 2015, 01:53:27 pm
I noticed same thing a few days ago, but on going near the server, message "MC 20 has stopped". I have to close and re-start PC or MC. this was version 20.0.100.
George

In my case, I had no problem playing to my Samsung S3 without restarting MC or the PC. It would not play on the Ematic tablet. Google play music worked on the tablet so it was not an audio problem in general.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on April 26, 2015, 06:58:24 pm
I continue to get inaccurate times for time remaining on the track.  Interestingly, it will be right sometimes.  Otherwise, the app is pretty stable for me.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on April 27, 2015, 06:21:45 am
I continue to get inaccurate times for time remaining on the track.  Interestingly, it will be right sometimes.  Otherwise, the app is pretty stable for me.

Is that when remote-controlling, or playing on the device?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on April 27, 2015, 02:40:21 pm
remote-controlling
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: GreggP on April 27, 2015, 04:01:33 pm
So far, I really like JRemote. I think it is a nice improvement over Gizmo. Much better design and UI.

However, I can't see any way to use JRemote as a remote control for running as a Theater View remote. Am I missing something, or is this not possible with JRemote like it is with Gizmo?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: zxsix on April 27, 2015, 09:04:53 pm
would like to request bluetooth controls.  cant pause or skip tracks via bluetooth while playing in the car.
Title: JRemote for Android --Search Funtionality
Post by: styxx10 on April 28, 2015, 02:28:07 am
Hi,

Using JRemote on Google Nexus 10, works great on Audio and Video playing to device and also using it to control PC player,TV and
streaming.
An improvement that would be really handy is the selection of the Search Functionality.
At present if you search an Artist i.e. Dire Straits..... like most I am sure I have many CD's of this band.
When selecting , it would be great to be able to highlight the Album Artwork and be able to select it to play the CD in it's entirety.
At present user is able to select each individual track, which is also handy.

Also like others I am keen to see the Remote Control functionality & the ability to control Theater View similar to Gizmo be introduced to JRemote when obviously the
time and resources permit.
Title: JRemote for Android Feature request - offline search or Shopping Mode
Post by: MJT on April 28, 2015, 11:07:51 am
Hello,
I'm using JRemote on a Note 4 and its working well for me.  I would like to request that the database be available for search when I'm away from home and not connected to the server.  I'm buying a lot of CD's and some DVD's from yard sales and flea markets at great prices.  I want to be able to search my library to see if I already have the album, number of tracks, and bit rate.  Even better would be a way to scan the bar code on the disk to search my library, get links to music stores with the album and reviews.  Extra awesome would be a feature to scan the bar code of the disks I already own and tap to confirm I own it to better track my disk inventory.

I read a similar request on the iOS JRemote thread that suggested setting up a global connection, however I would prefer not to open up the firewall for security reasons.

Thanks,
Mike   
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: zxsix on April 28, 2015, 11:30:05 am
Hello,
I'm using JRemote on a Note 4 and its working well for me.  I would like to request that the database be available for search when I'm away from home and not connected to the server.  I'm buying a lot of CD's and some DVD's from yard sales and flea markets at great prices.  I want to be able to search my library to see if I already have the album, number of tracks, and bit rate.  Even better would be a way to scan the bar code on the disk to search my library, get links to music stores with the album and reviews.  Extra awesome would be a feature to scan the bar code of the disks I already own and tap to confirm I own it to better track my disk inventory.

I read a similar request on the iOS JRemote thread that suggested setting up a global connection, however I would prefer not to open up the firewall for security reasons.

Thanks,
Mike   

For this purpose, I've set up a view with the needed fields, then go to file> export playlist.
choose the Text file (CSV) option.

Once a month I do this and save the .csv file in my dropbox folder.
I can then open it with excel on computer or spreadsheet app on the smartphone.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: InsaneRC on April 28, 2015, 11:31:21 am
would like to request bluetooth controls.  cant pause or skip tracks via bluetooth while playing in the car.

+1 On this
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Latour on May 04, 2015, 01:32:46 pm
Hi

I welcome the new JRemote. I have tried it on my Samsung S5 and it works well. It streams the movies and music I have.

A question though. What about subtitles? Being a Swede, I need to be able to choose the subtitle. Or at least be able to jump forward or backwards in a movie without losing sync (as with Gizmo and eos which both have this bug - every time you jump in a movie the subtitles starts from the beginning). It degrades the usability immensely for many of us non native English people (we are quite many). Metadata is nice but very far below on my wish list compared to working subtitles.

I would also like to be able to choose the Audiostream in a movie.

Looking forward to the next releases. To be honest - I will not use this app before a working subtitle functionality is in place.

Best regards L
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Morley on May 04, 2015, 01:46:26 pm
Works fine - but perhaps a minor issue concerning 'representation of dynamics' (admittedly not just with this app) may be solved some day:

I find it unhelpful to reproduce the whole possible dynamic spectrum as a beam. No one uses Max., and '0' might be achieved with a 'loudspeaker off' button.

On smaller mobiles you achieve the desired volume level only clumsily & approximately, hopping around a beam.

Instead it would be fine to see first of all a 'typical range beam segment' on a widened scale more easily to handle. (As a workaround '-' & '+' buttons could provide stepwise, but accurate changes.)

Best regards & keep on with your splendid work!
Morley
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: altae on May 04, 2015, 03:55:50 pm
I'm I too stupid or is there really no way to access the list of currently queued tracks? I only see the possibility to access playlists but I don't use playlists, I just add the tracks I want to listen to to the playing now list in MC and I would like to access that list on my phone.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 04, 2015, 04:00:13 pm
I'm I too stupid or is there really no way to access the list of currently queued tracks? I only see the possibility to access playlists but I don't use playlists, I just add the tracks I want to listen to to the playing now list in MC and I would like to access that list on my phone.

Swipe right when on the playing now screen
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mojave on May 04, 2015, 04:19:19 pm
Swipe right when on the playing now screen
Swipe left to go right.  ;)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 04, 2015, 04:39:07 pm
Swipe left to go right.  ;)

Sorry I was typing fast; there should have been a "from" in there  ;) 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: altae on May 04, 2015, 04:45:32 pm
Ah, that simple ;D Thanks!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on May 06, 2015, 12:25:31 am
'Over sensitive' touch interface. . .

One thing that comes up with JRemote is it's far too easy to lose a play list I've been creating with the slightest brush of the screen. I'm starting to find this very annoying  :(

The scenario is I'm browsing my Library, typically in album view, a tap of an album displays the track listing, a long press of a track allows me to "Append to the 'Now Playing' List" which is what I do and then maybe move to another album and append another track repeat for 20 or 30 tracks or so.

BUT

If in track view the slightest touch, brush or accidental merest brief contact with a track pops up the message 'Playing all files, starting with "Song Title"' * the 'Now Playing' play list is now lost and the track that was accidentally touched starts playing; my carefully crafted 'Now Playing' list is now gone for good. Arrgh!

The  'Playing all files, starting with "Song Title"' option really needs to be moved to the long press menu as it's way too easy to trigger this accidentally or it should at least warn you that continuing will lose the current 'Now Playing' list (should one exist) or they should be way of go back to the previous 'Now Playing' list somehow.

* I thought the comma was unnecessary as I read this to be "play all songs in the library starting with "Song Title"" (which would be a really weird choice) it actually means "play all songs in this album starting with "Song Title" track".  :)


Spike

PS Like the improved scrolling with the letters of the alphabet appearing on the screen. Nice touch!  :D
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 06, 2015, 02:02:07 am
You can change the action that happens on a single click. Click the Action Bar button which has a play-like symbol, it offers you a list of actions similar to the long-click menu. The action you select there is the action that a single song click will perform.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 06, 2015, 07:48:20 am
A new version of JRemote is on its way to the Play Store. As always, it'll be a couple hours before it shows up on everyone's phones, so be a bit patient!

20.0.10 / 10 (05/06/2015)

1. Fixed: JRemote could crash when performing a search in a view that was still loading.
2. Fixed: Number Plays was not being incremented when playing on the device.
3. NEW: Support for Play/Pause/Prev/Next remote control commands through Bluetooth or Headset controls.
4. NEW: Playback controls on the notification (Play/Pause, Prev, Next).
5. NEW: Media Metadata is reported to Bluetooth Remote Controls (for on-device playback).

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One of the major topics for the next version is going to be improving video support, so if thats something you have been waiting for, it should be going forward soon.
I do have some plans for a much more reliable video support than Gizmo ever had, which should hopefully make video playback quite seamless even on those devices which never worked properly with Gizmo.

If you have any other problems with JRemote for Android which remain unaddressed, even if you've posted them before, please feel free to bump them in this thread, or if they seem to be complex topics requiring a discussion, feel free to open your own thread.
I'm trying to tackle all things reported here, but sometimes stuff falls through the cracks, or its not entirely clear if something is still an issue.

Please try to focus on the features already present in JRemote right now. We'll get to adding more features, but getting what we have into a good shape is more important to us right now.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on May 06, 2015, 09:35:10 am
A new version of JRemote is on its way to the Play Store. As always, it'll be a couple hours before it shows up on everyone's phones, so be a bit patient!

20.0.10 / 10 (05/06/2015)

-----
One of the major topics for the next version is going to be improving video support, so if thats something you have been waiting for, it should be going forward soon.
I do have some plans for a much more reliable video support than Gizmo ever had, which should hopefully make video playback quite seamless even on those devices which never worked properly with Gizmo.

If you have any other problems with JRemote for Android which remain unaddressed, even if you've posted them before, please feel free to bump them in this thread, or if they seem to be complex topics requiring a discussion, feel free to open your own thread.
I'm trying to tackle all things reported here, but sometimes stuff falls through the cracks, or its not entirely clear if something is still an issue.

Please try to focus on the features already present in JRemote right now. We'll get to adding more features, but getting what we have into a good shape is more important to us right now.

Greetings:
Can JRemote just defaults to the folders' screen similar to Gizmo and EOS?
Right now, it takes you to the tv area. Please let the user choose where to go to within the system.

I hope chrome cast support is not too far <grin>

One more feature I really like you to see if it can be implemented for all "remotes" not only JRemote.

This may need tweaking the MCWS file.

Letting the "user control file" within MC work with these remotes.

Right now all we have is media network authentication, we need one more step within the settings to let each user actually log in with the info contained  in the user file. This will let me know who is on the server, by looking at the screen or log. Just a simple method for "Control". It does not have to be complex.
The system could be designed to reject any user whose info is not found  in the control file.
The premise for this is.. I give access info to a friend and this friend may go on distributing this info to everyone without the administrator's permission.
Meaning if you have media server info to log in, not having your name in the user control file could still restrict you.

Thanks.
George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 06, 2015, 09:47:59 am
Can JRemote just defaults to the folders' screen similar to Gizmo and EOS?
Right now, it takes you to the tv area. Please let the user choose where to go to within the system.

It'll default to the first view that you have setup in Media Network, if you want it to go to another, just re-order them.
There isn't supposed to be any "folder" screen, since the main folders are to be navigated using the drawer, not the main screen, just like eg. the GMail app, you don't get a screen with all mail folders, you get the content from a folder immediately, and switch folders using the drawer.

I suppose I can make it remember the last folder you were on more persistently and return to that, but its not going to get a "folder" view like Gizmo has, since the navigation drawer replaces that.
(I know that there is a glitch somewhere how you can actually get to such a view, but thats just because MCWS treats it like any other view)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 06, 2015, 10:39:09 am
It'll default to the first view that you have setup in Media Network, if you want it to go to another, just re-order them.
There isn't supposed to be any "folder" screen, since the main folders are to be navigated using the drawer, not the main screen, just like eg. the GMail app, you don't get a screen with all mail folders, you get the content from a folder immediately, and switch folders using the drawer.

The key difference is that in GMail 90% of the average non-power-user's interest is concentrated in one folder (the inbox), so that makes perfect sense there.  It's a tougher issue when the user's interest is divided across multiple categories, but I have a suggestion if you're game (see below).

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I suppose I can make it remember the last folder you were on more persistently and return to that, but its not going to get a "folder" view like Gizmo has, since the navigation drawer replaces that.
(I know that there is a glitch somewhere how you can actually get to such a view, but thats just because MCWS treats it like any other view)

Maybe one elegant solution to this issue is to do what Eos does.  Like JRemote, Eos doesn't have a top level folder view and only uses the drawer for top level navigation.  The key difference is that Eos always opens with the drawer pulled out so the first thing you see is the top level menu options.

I personally enjoy and prefer the top-level folder view in Gizmo, but I understand why it's undesirable from a modern UI perspective.  The joy of the Eos method is that, even after using it daily for six months or so, I never actually even noticed that Eos doesn't have a top-level folder view because it always launches with the drawer out, and 90% off my top level menu usage is when first switching to the app.  By contrast, I (and some other folks, obviously) find myself vexed when opening JRemote and trying to switch media types (I think because it's not visually obvious that the drawer is there right at first, etc.).  A few other media apps do the same thing (start with the drawer out, etc.)

Folks will eventually get used to it either way, but retraining will (on the margins) make some people skip/ditch the app, and this may be a way to split the difference.  I understand if you don't think that's good design, but I thought I'd mention it as I (after having thought about it) think it's a pretty clever feature.  
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 06, 2015, 10:52:17 am
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I suppose I can make it remember the last folder you were on more persistently and return to that
+1
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 06, 2015, 11:00:25 am
Opening the drawer on first start is certainly an option. I thought about that as well.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Spike1000 on May 06, 2015, 11:43:18 am
You can change the action that happens on a single click. Click the Action Bar button which has a play-like symbol, it offers you a list of actions similar to the long-click menu. The action you select there is the action that a single song click will perform.

Result  :)
Yep, I'd completely missed that menu. Many thanks for pointing out the obvious to me  :D

Looking forward to trying 20.0.10

Spike
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on May 06, 2015, 01:02:42 pm
Henrik, what about WoL / Put to Sleep?

Cheers
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 06, 2015, 01:38:18 pm
Quote
One of the major topics for the next version is going to be improving video support, so if thats something you have been waiting for, it should be going forward soon.
I do have some plans for a much more reliable video support than Gizmo ever had, which should hopefully make video playback quite seamless even on those devices which never worked properly with Gizmo.

just an fyi, i tried video outta curiosity on s4, and tab 7.0 neither played as i expected as mentioned in your post.. however upon holding down on home button to force kill JRemote, the notification bar keeps the playing now button, the only way to remove jremote from notification bar on these 2 devices is to do a complete device reboot (even though task manager states jremote is closed.)

Title: Re:
Post by: kamimeguro on May 06, 2015, 10:28:28 pm
Hi Hendrik,
Just upgraded to  .10 and the app crash systematically when I start playing a song, wherever I start from (album or playlist)...
I am on a Note2 android 4.3
Cheers
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 07, 2015, 01:57:19 am
Please submit the crashes to the play store, I don't see anything there yet. Otherwise its going to be pretty hard to fix it.

Edit:
I also posted a 20.0.11 which may fix this. Please test once its available! Surprisingly, a pretty low number of users is on Android 4.1-4.3, the majority has at least 4.4 (87% of JRemote users are on 4.4 or newer)
The fix is the only change in 20.0.11, for anyone else that may wonder.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mr. Odd on May 07, 2015, 08:34:22 am
Looking good so far, a few of requests:

- Can dates in the tag info view be displayed as dates and not numerics?

- Switching between wifi and 4g connection often causes problems for uninterrupted playback, usually when the song ends the next one doesn't load. Can JRemote be more robust in automatically reconnecting when there's a change in wireless status?

- How about a bookmark option that automatically stores the last track/time so one doesn't lose place in a podcast or song?

Thanks!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Trumpetguy on May 07, 2015, 12:47:53 pm
audunth, you most likely missed it (buried now) but Hendrik mentioned video is not yet setup/troubleshot.



Does this apply to images also? Nothing happens when trying to "play" an image on device (Xperia Z2).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Trumpetguy on May 07, 2015, 12:51:54 pm
Is there any plan for integrating streaming services in JRemote? It would be awesome. It works ok with OrangeSqueeze and SqueezeCommander (which are of course primarliy targeted to squeeze devices), but I'd prefer moving over to JRemote... that would be much more convenient with all sources in one place.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: kamimeguro on May 07, 2015, 06:15:27 pm
Hi Hendrik,

Tried .11 this morning : JRemote still crash on my system...
Reported on Play Store.
Having a Note 2 in Japan. Still like it but stuck on 4.3 (Carrier limitation)
eos and Gizmo work
Cheers
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 08, 2015, 02:50:29 am
Hi Hendrik,

Tried .11 this morning : JRemote still crash on my system...
Reported on Play Store.
Having a Note 2 in Japan. Still like it but stuck on 4.3 (Carrier limitation)
eos and Gizmo work
Cheers

The crash report showed up on Play Store now, should hopefully be fixed in the upcoming .12

Opening the drawer on first start is certainly an option. I thought about that as well.

I posted 20.0.12 to the play store this morning, which will open the drawer on a first connect to a new server (or when starting the app the first time).
Please test if it works properly and doesn't open it at times when it shouldn't have.... :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: SUP21 on May 08, 2015, 03:24:00 am
Hi Guys

Good work, JRemote is the first and only app i bought on play store.

two things i would like to have on this app :

- Using JRemote only for audio i wish I could enlarge the size of album art as a touch screen (too small on a 7"  for 42 albums art on screen, only 24 on gizmo), even more in list mode.

- Albums with the same title are mixed and it is always the oldest into the library whose cover is visible ("Album" and "Recent" views). It's the same thing in Gizmo.

May be a small correction in French translation: "Récents" instead of "Récente"

Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 08, 2015, 03:35:57 am
- Using JRemote only for audio i wish I could enlarge the size of album art as a touch screen (too small on a 7"  for 42 albums art on screen, only 24 on gizmo), even more in list mode.
Improvements for tablet usage will come at a later time, stay tuned.

- Albums with the same title are mixed and it is always the oldest into the library whose cover is visible ("Album" and "Recent" views). It's the same thing in Gizmo.

This isn't a problem in JRemote or Gizmo, but how you setup the views in MC. You need to set them up to group on artist and album, and not only album.
Both JRemote and Gizmo will straight up display content as MC delivers it, they don't do any organizing of the content themself.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: astromo on May 08, 2015, 03:45:52 am
The crash report showed up on Play Store now, should hopefully be fixed in the upcoming .12

I posted 20.0.12 to the play store this morning, which will open the drawer on a first connect to a new server (or when starting the app the first time).
Please test if it works properly and doesn't open it at times when it shouldn't have.... :)

This build is working fine for me (audio playback) on a Note 10.1 tablet with Android 4.1.2.

Nice work.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 08, 2015, 11:16:29 am
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Quote
I posted 20.0.12 to the play store this morning, which will open the drawer on a first connect to a new server (or when starting the app the first time)..
perhaps a setting similar to eos where we can chose to auto expand or not would be nice?
* out of curiosity will you still be enabling the exit warning?
* and just an fyi... no videos work on s4 or tab 7.0 still. just spins.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on May 08, 2015, 08:19:49 pm
*  perhaps a setting similar to eos where we can chose to auto expand or not would be nice?
* out of curiosity will you still be enabling the exit warning?
* and just an fyi... no videos work on s4 or tab 7.0 still. just spins.

I asked for this feature a couple of weeks ago. EOS does this drawer settings very well.
George
Title: Re:
Post by: kamimeguro on May 08, 2015, 09:28:05 pm
Thank you Hendrik, .12 is now working on my 4.3 Note 2. Still no video.
We have a few (old) Android phone and tablet at home, I'll report during the weekend.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: SUP21 on May 09, 2015, 02:39:50 am
Improvements for tablet usage will come at a later time, stay tuned.

This isn't a problem in JRemote or Gizmo, but how you setup the views in MC. You need to set them up to group on artist and album, and not only album.
Both JRemote and Gizmo will straight up display content as MC delivers it, they don't do any organizing of the content themself.

"You need to set them up to group on artist and album, and not only album"  the fact is that this does not occur on JRiver, but maybe I spent hours tinkering with MC....
Could you give me the good setup for Récent and album ?

Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: arixey on May 09, 2015, 07:16:09 am
If you have any other problems with JRemote for Android which remain unaddressed, even if you've posted them before, please feel free to bump them in this thread, or if they seem to be complex topics requiring a discussion, feel free to open your own thread.
I'm trying to tackle all things reported here, but sometimes stuff falls through the cracks, or its not entirely clear if something is still an issue.

I've still got the problem in the new version where it won't play anything over 4g/3g.  Works fine when I'm on my home wifi.  But when out, I have full access to the library.  Songs will get added to the playing now list.  But nothing ever happens when I actually try to play music.  Tapping songs, long-pressing and choosing "play now", etc....none of them work.

Gizmo works fine over 4g/3g, and as I said I have full access to view, search, etc., so I don't think the problem is on the server's end.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: EricdeBruin on May 09, 2015, 09:37:57 am
Hello,

I bought JRemote for Android yesterday, but i can't seem to figure out how to stream music to my smartphone. I can browse my library and everything, even start music, but it starts playing on my PC.

I was already using Gizmo before, and here I can select where to play the music. For example 'Here' would play music on my phone, and i could select a external source to play it via my speakers.

JRemote doesn't seem to have this option, the only thing i can find in the menu (with Audio, Playlists, Search, Settings and My Servers) is the bullseye-icon at the bottom, which leads to Available Zones.
There, the current zone is a white phone/tablet icon on the left, with an option on the right which leads to browsing Output devices. But here, only my computer's hardware components are listed.

Can someone help me out?

Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on May 09, 2015, 04:30:42 pm
I'm using JRemote constantly, it's finally made NetRemote redundant (Gizmo never managed to do that because it was lacking the ability to easily play only one track, not the whole album), so thanks for that! I have two questions, though:

1. I don't need movies/videos, still it always opens on that. Is it possible to remove a view completely? It may be easy, I just haven't found it.

2. I almost always have to connect to the server manuall, even though I have it set to try to connect to the previously used server. Also when it does it connects to the zone that's active in MC (which never is the one I want to control). This is one thing Gizmo actually got right for me. Is there something I have overlooked in the app or the setup?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on May 09, 2015, 06:18:23 pm
I just bought the app for my tablet ASUS ME320C running android 4.3

The app crashes immediately after logging to the server

No way whatsoever to do anything, just crashes and asks me to send the report
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 09, 2015, 06:25:36 pm
No way whatsoever to do anything, just crashes and asks me to send the report

Then please do send the report, and we'll try to fix the crash in the next version.
Although that particular device seems to have a whole bunch of rather peculiar issues, so who knows. The Google support people seem to blame ASUS/Intel for doing something weird with the OS on that device...
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 10, 2015, 08:07:48 am
i can't seem to figure out how to stream music to my smartphone. I can browse my library and everything, even start music, but it starts playing on my PC.

I was already using Gizmo before, and here I can select where to play the music. For example 'Here' would play music on my phone, and i could select a external source to play it via my speakers.

In JRemote, in the Navigation Drawer (Swipe from left edge to the right to open), there is a zone selector at the very bottom (the bullseye), when you select that, select the option "This device", which is the local zone of the phone.

1. I don't need movies/videos, still it always opens on that. Is it possible to remove a view completely? It may be easy, I just haven't found it.

Just remove the view in MC. Options -> Media Network -> Advanced -> Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo

2. I almost always have to connect to the server manuall, even though I have it set to try to connect to the previously used server. Also when it does it connects to the zone that's active in MC (which never is the one I want to control). This is one thing Gizmo actually got right for me. Is there something I have overlooked in the app or the setup?

Automatic reconnect is still somewhat spotty, although it seems to work most of the time for me. It may bail out when you switch between LAN and WAN.
Regarding the zone, it seems to remember for me. Check the options of JRemote, in particular the "App follows server zones" and "Server follows app zones" options, for you they should probably both be off.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on May 11, 2015, 02:11:50 am
Just remove the view in MC. Options -> Media Network -> Advanced -> Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo

Automatic reconnect is still somewhat spotty, although it seems to work most of the time for me. It may bail out when you switch between LAN and WAN.
Regarding the zone, it seems to remember for me. Check the options of JRemote, in particular the "App follows server zones" and "Server follows app zones" options, for you they should probably both be off.

View worked, thanks! I didn't think of that... Embarassing. As for the other options I have them off, but it doesn't help. Maybe that will improve with time and versions?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: famu97 on May 11, 2015, 08:10:46 am
JRemote is a great leap forward over Gizmo but here's the issues that I've observed.  Can you let me know if they are known confirmed bugs or new bugs that will get fixed.

I'm using an LG G2 running the OEM build of Lillipop 5.0.1
1. During playback when I add another song to the currently playing playlist, the music pauses as it adds another song to play next. I should hear continuous music as it's adding songs to the current playlist similar to how Gizmo works.
2. After I stop playing music I can't get the pull down notification to close out. Unlike other pull down notifications, it doesn't have an X button to close it out nor can I swipe to close it out. It just stays there with the pause showing up in the notification bar.
3. The search is not fully working. When I search using the main search from the side menu, it's not returning full results. I've searched for artists & albums but it's only returning some of the the results of a given search. For example I was searching for an album that I know I have in my music library, but it didn't find it. I was able to find the album when I drilled down through albums myself.  I also searched for that same album by artist name & it only found a partial list of the works in my library by that artist. Again it didn't find the album I was looking for even though I know it's is in my library.
4. I also noticed that when playing back through Bluetooth through my car stereo (JVC KD-R850BT) that when I press skip to the next song, that sometimes doesn't work or it has a really long delayed response to actually skip to the next song to play.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 11, 2015, 08:36:50 am
1. During playback when I add another song to the currently playing playlist, the music pauses as it adds another song to play next. I should hear continuous music as it's adding songs to the current playlist similar to how Gizmo works.

I cannot reproduce this, and I honestly don't see how thats happening. Playback and playlist management are quite separate.
Are you playing on the phone, or controlling a remote zone?

2. After I stop playing music I can't get the pull down notification to close out. Unlike other pull down notifications, it doesn't have an X button to close it out nor can I swipe to close it out. It just stays there with the pause showing up in the notification bar.

Its not meant to be able to be closed while music is playing or paused, but it should automatically go away when you press "Stop" on the playing now screen, or the last track of your playlist finished.
Some possible improvements coming in the next build.

3. The search is not fully working. When I search using the main search from the side menu, it's not returning full results. I've searched for artists & albums but it's only returning some of the the results of a given search. For example I was searching for an album that I know I have in my music library, but it didn't find it. I was able to find the album when I drilled down through albums myself.  I also searched for that same album by artist name & it only found a partial list of the works in my library by that artist. Again it didn't find the album I was looking for even though I know it's is in my library.

Not really sure about this one. I assume it works in Gizmo? Its just handing off the search to MC and displaying the results as far as I remember how it works, but I'll check.

4. I also noticed that when playing back through Bluetooth through my car stereo (JVC KD-R850BT) that when I press skip to the next song, that sometimes doesn't work or it has a really long delayed response to actually skip to the next song to play.

Are you using the cars media controls for the "Skip" command, or directly controlling it on the phone?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: famu97 on May 11, 2015, 10:30:32 am
I cannot reproduce this, and I honestly don't see how thats happening. Playback and playlist management are quite separate.
Are you playing on the phone, or controlling a remote zone?

When this occurs I'm playing via bluetooth to my car stereo and streaming.  My expectation would be that while there is a song still playing, and I add another song to play next, that the current song playing would not hiccup while the next song is being added  to the queue.

Its not meant to be able to be closed while music is playing or paused, but it should automatically go away when you press "Stop" on the playing now screen, or the last track of your playlist finished.
Some possible improvements coming in the next build.

I'm not trying to close it while the music is playing (although I should be able to because the Android system will allow that), but I'm referring to after I've stopped the music from playing, the app still sits in the pull-down notification displaying a Pause.  Again, I'm using JRemote in the car streaming bluetooth to my stereo when this occurs.

Not really sure about this one. I assume it works in Gizmo? Its just handing off the search to MC and displaying the results as far as I remember how it works, but I'll check.

This is definitely happening. Once again, I'm using JRemote in the car via bluetooth.  Can anyone else confirm they've seen this issue at all.

Are you using the cars media controls for the "Skip" command, or directly controlling it on the phone?

Yes I'm using the cars media controls for "skip" command when this occurs.  Just trying to relay what I'm seeing to the dev's and to see if anyone else is having these issues.  All of the issues occurred while streaming audio to my car stereo via bluetooth while I'm driving.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: marko on May 11, 2015, 12:14:28 pm
I use this almost exclusively over 3G, in the car, connected via the car's built-in bluetooth. That works.

I have unchecked the support native option. My library is mostly FLAC and there is little to gain streaming FLAC over 3G in this way. The Playing Now screen still reports that playback is FLAC. Is the option to transcode being ignored, or is it just reporting the file type from the library, even though the file playing should be transcoded mp3?

The reason I think it is not transcoding is that I can rarely get through a single track without playback stalling. When it stalls, I can switch over to Gizmo, and there is no stalling for the rest of the journey.

JRemote is kicking a process on my phone (HTC One M9) called MediaServer. This thing doesn't stop. It heats my phone up to the point of being almost too hot to touch, and drains the battery from 100% to flat in just over an hour. This is a real problem for me and has forced me to stop trialling the app in the meantime.

-marko
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 11, 2015, 12:17:32 pm
The reason I think it is not transcoding is that I can rarely get through a single track without playback stalling. When it stalls, I can switch over to Gizmo, and there is no stalling for the rest of the journey.

Gizmo supports a local cache for buffering purposes (user-configurable to 1, 5, or 10 songs).  JRemote does not (to my knowledge).  That's likely the cause of the difference you're seeing.

Try disabling the read-ahead cache in Gizmo and see if you get the same kind of interruptions as you do with JRemote.  Even using the 1 song buffering setting in Gizmo I get perfectly smooth playback over 3G (unless I'm on a roadtrip through the mountains or something, in which case I turn the cache up). A little cache can go a long way, and the smooth playback is why I still primarily use Gizmo for out of the house playback.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: marko on May 11, 2015, 01:03:50 pm
Thanks. I am aware Gizmo's the cache, and what it does... it came as result of this, a couple of years ago. (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=81691.0) ;)

Gizmo is also transcoding. Streaming or downloading an 8 meg mp3 has to be better performance-wise than using a 25 meg flac file? Certainly, my recent experience with JRemote is very similar to the issues mentioned in that thread.

The mediaserver issue has however, stopped me dead in my tracks for now. I am not sure why that is happening.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 11, 2015, 01:09:05 pm
Thanks. I am aware Gizmo's the cache, and what it does... it came as result of this, a couple of years ago. (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=81691.0) ;)

I figured you were familiar with the Gizmo end of it (although I couldn't have guessed just how familiar  ;D), but I wasn't sure how widely known JRemote's lack of cache was.

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Gizmo is also transcoding. Streaming or downloading an 8 meg mp3 has to be better performance-wise than using a 25 meg flac file? Certainly, my recent experience with JRemote is very similar to the issues mentioned in that thread.

I think JRemote is transcoding too if you set it to (It still shows FLAC, but I think I'm seeing smaller data streams), but I'm not certain; I think the difference in stability of playback is the cache.

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The mediaserver issue has however, stopped me dead in my tracks for now. I am not sure why that is happening.

That is odd; I'm not seeing anything like that.  Does it show up immediately on launch or playback?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Trumpetguy on May 11, 2015, 01:16:40 pm
Its not meant to be able to be closed while music is playing or paused, but it should automatically go away when you press "Stop" on the playing now screen, or the last track of your playlist finished.
Some possible improvements coming in the next build.


It didn't, but with today's update, this was fixed for me (Xperia Z2, android 5.0.2).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 11, 2015, 03:50:08 pm
The mediaserver issue has however, stopped me dead in my tracks for now. I am not sure why that is happening.

"mediaserver" is the process thats shown when music playback is running. Its an Android system component, and Gizmo should also spawn it.
I wouldn't know what would cause it to eat up all your battery, though...
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Castius on May 12, 2015, 10:36:07 am
Hi, Can the metadata that are dates or time. Display a human readable result next to the value?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: marko on May 12, 2015, 11:20:35 am
"mediaserver" is the process thats shown when music playback is running. Its an Android system component, and Gizmo should also spawn it.
I wouldn't know what would cause it to eat up all your battery, though...
I tried again this morning, in the house, over 3G. Phone played music for one hour using Gizmo without faltering.
Switched to JRemote...
It would not get through a single track. Sometimes it would play almost to the end, others it would stop barely 40 seconds into the track. Once stopped, the stalled track refused to play on, even stop/starting it would only get me the same clip as previously played. Hitting next would start the next track playing, then it was just a case of waiting to see how much of that track would play.
While doing this, I had MC's temp directory open on the server, and could see the mp3 files being created, so the transcoding is definitely working. I want to cry "Cache", but while I'm sure that would definitely help, the first track of a random playlist is rarely going to be cached so has to be streamed in full, and currently, Gizmo is doing this, but JRemote is not, and I have no idea why.

The mediaserver thing did not raise its head this morning. The times that I have seen this usually occur when playback has stalled and all of the transport buttons have become unresponsive. I'll give it another go in a day or so, but it's a really painful experience for me at the moment, and with so many factors involved in the chain, it's hard to know how to help with trouble shooting. Feels negative to say so, but, if Gizmo works as expected at the same time as JRemote does not, I can't help but think that JRemote has a problem. I only wish I could help figure out what that is exactly.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 12, 2015, 11:28:01 am
I tried again this morning, in the house, over 3G. Phone played music for one hour using Gizmo without faltering.
Switched to JRemote...
It would not get through a single track. Sometimes it would play almost to the end, others it would stop barely 40 seconds into the track. Once stopped, the stalled track refused to play on, even stop/starting it would only get me the same clip as previously played. Hitting next would start the next track playing, then it was just a case of waiting to see how much of that track would play.
While doing this, I had MC's temp directory open on the server, and could see the mp3 files being created, so the transcoding is definitely working. I want to cry "Cache", but while I'm sure that would definitely help, the first track of a random playlist is rarely going to be cached so has to be streamed in full, and currently, Gizmo is doing this, but JRemote is not, and I have no idea why.

The first track still has to be streamed in full but the key difference is that Gizmo (with the cache setting on) is trying to pull the whole track, so it pulls it just as fast as it can get it (much faster than the rate of playback on a good connection).  That means if it doesn't hit a connectivity problem in the first few seconds it's going have enough of the track to ride out any momentary connectivity issues and stay well ahead of the curve.  I usually get a full track cached in less than thirty seconds (watching the network traffic).

If JRemote is not caching, it's not trying to pull the whole file; it may only be pulling enough to fill it's buffer.  If its buffer is 1 second, than any connectivity interruption longer than 1 second is going to interrupt playback.  

It's easy to test: turn off the caching option in Gizmo entirely and see if you get the same behavior.  
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 12, 2015, 04:33:55 pm
any changes been done to video yet?

just an fyi, i upgrade S4 to lollipop (did a fresh install..was needed), and now video playback on S4 seems to be working on all servers.

however our Galaxy tab 7.0 still just sits and spins.
tablet is on version 4.2.2 (eos, gizmo work)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on May 12, 2015, 07:26:36 pm
No video changes yet.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 12, 2015, 07:33:26 pm
kk ty.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 14, 2015, 01:15:23 pm
Split EricdeBruin's Zone trouble here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=97597.0
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 15, 2015, 06:48:41 am
A new version is on its way to the play store, as always give it a couple hours until its available on everyones phone.

20.0.13 / 13 (05/15/2015)

1. Fixed: Properly indicate that the audio is being transcoded on the Playing Now screen.
2. Changed: Refactored the global search functionality to be more reliable.
3. NEW: Video Playback support was entirely re-designed, improves device support and playback reliability.
4. NEW: MP3 Live Streams can be played on the device (assuming the links are "imported" into the library).
5. Fixed: JRemote defaults to local playback if no remote zones are available (because they are all hidden or disconnected).

-------------------------------
I've completely re-implemented video support in this version, and while I don't expect it to be completely problem-free right away, testing has shown great promise to be compatible on a wide range of devices, more than the old solution would've ever been able to do!
Testing of video appreciated!

If someone is curious on some of the technical details, we're now using Google's ExoPlayer (https://github.com/google/ExoPlayer/) for video playback, which is a open-source extensible media player, and most importantly, its not part of the core Android, but can be shipped and upgraded with the App itself.
This has the huge advantage that I can control the version we use, and most importantly, its the exact same on all devices! This should hopefully greatly minimize discrepancys in device support.

Due to using ExoPlayer, JRemote can also use simple and plain MPEG-TS streaming again, and does not need HLS (HTTP Live Streaming), which has a few advantages, notably faster startup and seeking time (for our use case when transcoding video).
Since ExoPlayer is extensible, its also feasible to support native file playback in the future on a local network for a limited set of formats (H264 with a number of audio codecs still to be determined), ie. without transcoding. But this is for the (distant) future, just a hint of what might be possible.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 15, 2015, 09:24:20 am
Video now working on S4 (lollipop) Galaxy tab 7.0 with Ir (4.2.2)
Holy Smokes.. i cannot believe how fast the seeking is!
This is awesome!!!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on May 15, 2015, 02:02:13 pm
Video playback much improved in this version (in that it works on my Note 3 with Lollipop, whereas it did not before).  Seeking is also mighty fast. 

I can also confirm that the default to local playback when no visible zones are available on the server works correctly.  Thanks for that. much appreciated.
Title: Re:
Post by: GreggP on May 15, 2015, 08:58:24 pm
I'm still not having much luck with video playback. I've tried high and medium quality and it doesn't make any difference. The video will play for a few seconds (maybe up to 5) and then freeze. It will resume after I pick pause and play, but again only for a few more seconds. The source videos include ripped DVDs, Blu-rays and some recorded HD television programs.

I think I have the latest version of JRemote. I can't find the version # posted on the settings. I have a Nexus 7 (2013) running Android  5.1.1.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 16, 2015, 02:32:38 am
If you do have the latest version, then it sounds like your server doesn't deliver video fast enough. Especially for High you will need a quite beefy server box.
Did this work in Gizmo? Did you try low quality?

It also isn't unheard of that the automatic staged rollout just takes a bit of time.
You can check the version of any app in the Android System Settings -> Apps, scroll to JRemote and select its entry, it should show the version there.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DivBy0 on May 16, 2015, 08:59:07 am
A new version is on its way to the play store, as always give it a couple hours until its available on everyones phone.

20.0.13 / 13 (05/15/2015)

1. Fixed: Properly indicate that the audio is being transcoded on the Playing Now screen.


Sorry but I don't see this on droid phone. What I do see is the native format of the audio i.e.: 96000kHz / 3232 kbps FLAC (at the rt bottom of screen).
This I see regardless of how I apply my settings  "Use native audio format" and or "Audio Quality" settings.
Sorry am I missing something, is this only for video?  

Oh and I just noticed that sampling should read 96kHz or 96000Hz. (k) denotes thousand
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: EricdeBruin on May 17, 2015, 06:28:27 am
Is there a chance gapless playback (for FLAC) is coming in the future? That would be the ultimate feature to make this app my favourite.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 17, 2015, 06:56:23 am
Is there a chance gapless playback (for FLAC) is coming in the future? That would be the ultimate feature to make this app my favourite.

We already use the Android MediaPlayer in such a way that we tell it to play the next file right after the first one ends. How gapless that is in reality depends on how Android handles this.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Castius on May 17, 2015, 11:24:19 am
The new video playback is a nice improvement.
Please consider VP8 VP9 as the next direct codec playback.
Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on May 17, 2015, 09:20:23 pm
Just a heads up that I continue to get incorrect times for time remaining on the track while remote controlling.  Times will vary wildly from correct, too little time on the track to negative numbers while the rest of the track plays.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ripnas4711 on May 18, 2015, 05:23:47 am
- Sorry, double post, couldn't erase -

Hi,

I'm using JRiver, full paid version, with the Android Gizmo app together with a RipNas Statement V4 with dig-out via Spdif coaxial. So far, so fine.

My music files are arranged in folders like this:

- Main folder: Name of the artist
- Sub Folders for each album of this artist.
- Tracks listed in the specific sub-folder.

I'd like to select the files via the different folders. This was possible with the Logitech Squeezebox App. Problem with Gizmo is that selecting the different folders is not possible.

Is this possible with the JRemote app for Android or iOS? If so I'll buy this app. If not, will this be fixed in the next release? If not, is there any other solution known around that works with JRiver and could handle this feature? E.g. Kinsky?

I adressed this problem also to the manufacturer of RipNAS, HFX Austria.  

Thank you.

Best regards

ripnas 4711
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 18, 2015, 05:27:17 am
You can arrange the files however you want, you just need to setup the views for Gizmo/JRemote in a way that suits your setup.
Go into the MC options, Media Network -> Advanced -> Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: rolf_eigenheer on May 18, 2015, 05:55:46 am
* No local image playback
Current Zone: This Device
Music and Video files are played properly. Bit Image files will not be displayed on my Samsung Note 3  (lollipop)
The images are available and valid. When set to "Steuerung" (remote controlling MC) the images were displayed on the PC.


* DLNA issue
Finding my DLNA Renderer (Onkyo TX-NR838) is difficult. Sometimes it helps to restart JRemote, sometimes it is better to restart the phone. It will also not connect when the Amp already plays files which have been sent using another DLNA controller.


* GUI
The menu panel sometimes keeps empty or flickers. Closing and open again helps. Sometimes it takes 2 or three tries.

As expected, the 'back' button brings me to the higher level. But once beeing in Music, Video back does not open the main menu, instead it closes the app. 


Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 18, 2015, 06:21:56 am
* DLNA issue
Finding my DLNA Renderer (Onkyo TX-NR838) is difficult. Sometimes it helps to restart JRemote, sometimes it is better to restart the phone. It will also not connect when the Amp already plays files which have been sent using another DLNA controller.

JRemote is not a DLNA controller, it just controls MC. If its not showing your DLNA device, then MC is not telling it about it. JRemote does no DLNA discovery or direct DLNA control on its own.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Castius on May 18, 2015, 09:29:27 am
When i open jriver the upper left icon is multiple icons. play, shuffle and the three horizontal bars.
Once i click on it to open left side menu. Then close it and  the icons are fixed.

Images do not play. I sys playing but nothing happens.

Nexus 4
android 5.1
jremote 20.0.13
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 18, 2015, 10:46:02 am
Just want to give a huge thank you to Hendrik again for the awesome speed improvement when seeking. It makes for a much more enjoyable experience!

Few requests/concerns.

*
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As expected, the 'back' button brings me to the higher level. But once beeing in Music, Video back does not open the main menu, instead it closes the app.
same here... an exit confirmation as discussed would be nice.

* Ratings... is there any possibility of adding an X. so that those of us who only use 5 star and ZERO star can easily remove 5 stars?
Our family did alot of playing with jremote this weekend and we couldnt figure out how to remove the 5 stars without having to walk to the server, search for the file we no longer wanted 5 star'd and changing the rating there.

* any possibility of having "playing from playing to" visible at all times (similar to gizmo?) ive noticed numerous times when JRemote has been closed, and upon reopening days later it auto connects to the last server that was used, and the only way of knowing what server was used is by clicking on my servers, and touching the one you want to use. it would be nice to be alerted upon connection which server you are connected to/or to visibly see it at all times, being jremote does not land you on a server pick screen like gizmo does. it just auto starts you.
or maybe on the My Servers screen having a star/check mark of which library is currently connected? Our family consensus would prefer it being listed at all times similar to gizmo (this was very handy & quick)

* The ability to hide certain servers in My Servers. some of us have private servers, it would be nice if one presses on a server in my servers that we could have an option that pops up "please enter pass to access this library."

* Chromecast support

* Live preview seeking as Glynor mentioned in another post.. would be stellar (this would also be nice in standard/theaterview as well if at all possible.)
Perhaps an additional "cover art folder" could be made which would entail all video previews of clips, allowing for much more precise seeking? (Maybe they could be built automatically whenever an auto import is being done?)



Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 18, 2015, 10:59:25 am
* Ratings... is there any possibility of adding an X. so that those of us who only use 5 star and ZERO star can easily remove 5 stars?
Just press-and-hold on the stars and swipe all the way over to the left, that will set it to zero, or to the right for 5. I don't see the need for an extra button just to clear it, which would use more space.

* any possibility of having "playing from playing to" visible at all times (similar to gizmo?)
I can possibly make it say that in the navbar somewhere, no plans for a "constant" display in the header or footer however.

* The ability to hide certain servers in My Servers. some of us have private servers, it would be nice if one presses on a server in my servers that we could have an option that pops up "please enter pass to access this library."
You can delete servers if you don't want them to be accessible from the phone anymore (long-press, select the delete icon, i believe), no further plans for the time being.

* Chromecast support
At some point, not very soon.

* Live preview seeking as Glynor mentioned in another post.. would be stellar (this would also be nice in standard/theaterview as well if at all possible.)
No plans for that in the near future.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on May 18, 2015, 11:41:40 am
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Just press-and-hold on the stars and swipe all the way over to the left, that will set it to zero, or to the right for 5. I don't see the need for an extra button just to clear it, which would use more space.
Thanks.. easy peasy.

Quote
I can possibly make it say that in the navbar somewhere.
we would appreciate this. Thank you for considering.



Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on May 26, 2015, 03:39:26 am
Is it possible to extend bluetooth media controls (introduced in .10) to video and other zones? That would make me able to control playback in the Home Theater with my watch :-)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 26, 2015, 03:47:13 am
Is it possible to extend bluetooth media controls (introduced in .10) to video and other zones? That would make me able to control playback in the Home Theater with my watch :-)

The Bluetooth controls will only work for local playback. I guess I can make it work for local video playback..
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on May 26, 2015, 04:10:00 am
I don't know if this is known, but I still almost never get auto reconnect when I start up JRemote even if I have been on the same wifi network all day. :(
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on May 26, 2015, 04:16:41 am
Video control would be appreciated, useful for watching video on a tablet placed a few meters away, or for music videos :-)

No chance of zone control via bluetooth? Well, I really hope Wear support will be considered sometime in the future, as Android watches are getting more and more popular.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 26, 2015, 08:36:43 am
I don't know if this is known, but I still almost never get auto reconnect when I start up JRemote even if I have been on the same wifi network all day. :(

I found one bug this morning that resulted in some weird behavior when reconnecting sometimes, hopefully its going to be a bit more reliable in future builds.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on May 26, 2015, 09:37:41 am
Thanks, Hendrik! I hope so too! It's kind of annoying to reconnect manually almost every time i use it. But at least it seems like it has learnt to reconnet to the correct zone on MC now, so I don't have to change that! :) The weird thing is that even when it hasn't reconnected I'm still on the same screen as I was before it disconnected. So if I have picked a track from an album, I will see that album in the screen I'm on, and when I reconnect I can pick a track from the same album directly.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: zxsix on May 26, 2015, 06:27:25 pm
I'm on a Galaxy S6 with lollipop, running jremote 20.0.13
Listened to a few songs in the car today.
When I got home, I clicked the STOP button to stop playback, then the back button a few times to exit out of the app.
There is still the notification showing the last song played and audio controls.
I can't get this to go away.
I even went into app switcher and selected "close all".
JRemote, gmail, etc. are all gone now from running apps, but that jremote notification still remains.
Rebooted the phone to get rid of it since I'm done listening for the day.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: springtian on May 27, 2015, 07:42:28 pm
Hi, guys,

I find the album images are far way small when using pad with high res. Can I set them displayed bigger?

Thank you for all the wonderful work.

springtian
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krmasson on May 31, 2015, 04:21:31 am
Hello there,

I recently downloaded JRemote for Android, and I have to say that I am somewhat disappointed:

- as Springtian just said, the thumbnails are far to small to be really readable. I did not find any setting to change the size.
- album titles are often truncated in the different views, even in landscape mode, because JRemote seems to be unaware of the device having rotated
- still no ability to choose which metadata are displayed
- I have not seen any trace of the "playing now" play list, as in WebGizmo or (Android) Gizmo ?

Unless I am completely missing something, I thing that JRemote, although his interface is much more "modern" and up to date, is actually less usable than WebGizmo or Android Gizmo. I am the more disappointed that there was no trial version, and I had to directly pay it and trust it in order to begin to play with.

Are there any plan to fix the points above?

Regards
CM
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Bccc1 on May 31, 2015, 08:09:24 am
On Xperia L C2105 with Android 4.2.2 Video via JRemote doesn't work. Video via Gizmo works. On my Nexus 7 2013 WiFi 5.0.2 everything works fine. I don't know if it's in anyway helpfull, but I attached logs from both the server and the smartphone unsuccessfully trying to play a video.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 31, 2015, 08:59:50 am
On Xperia L C2105 with Android 4.2.2 Video via JRemote doesn't work. Video via Gizmo works. On my Nexus 7 2013 WiFi 5.0.2 everything works fine. I don't know if it's in anyway helpfull, but I attached logs from both the server and the smartphone unsuccessfully trying to play a video.

You seem to be using an old version of JRemote on your phone, or so the log says.
Video support was entirely re-designed in a recent version.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on May 31, 2015, 09:03:34 am
- as Springtian just said, the thumbnails are far to small to be really readable. I did not find any setting to change the size.
- album titles are often truncated in the different views, even in landscape mode, because JRemote seems to be unaware of the device having rotated

Tablet and landscape support will be improved in a future version.

- I have not seen any trace of the "playing now" play list, as in WebGizmo or (Android) Gizmo ?

Swipe to the left on the playing now screen, primarily on the cover art ("drag" the screen, so that the playlist shows up)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Bccc1 on May 31, 2015, 09:55:31 am
You seem to be using an old version of JRemote on your phone, or so the log says.
Video support was entirely re-designed in a recent version.


I actually thought I updated but you're right, it was the old Version. Thanks for the quick response and sorry for the waste of time. Now it works.
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: GreggP on June 02, 2015, 11:04:24 am
If you do have the latest version, then it sounds like your server doesn't deliver video fast enough. Especially for High you will need a quite beefy server box.
Did this work in Gizmo? Did you try low quality?

It also isn't unheard of that the automatic staged rollout just takes a bit of time.
You can check the version of any app in the Android System Settings -> Apps, scroll to JRemote and select its entry, it should show the version there.
Yeah, you're right. The PC used as my mc20 server is an older system that I run headlessly in my basement and control using remote desktop. It's always worked fine as a music server. It easily handles 24-bit or DSD multichannel audio tracks, but I don't use it for video, since there's no monitor attached. I tried adding a couple more sticks of RAM and that improved the video performance, but it still wasn't great. So I tried using my much more powerful HTPC as the server. It works much better. I can even watch my mkv blu-rays.
Title: Galaxy S5 Native .wav support coming?
Post by: rockson61 on June 02, 2015, 03:24:06 pm
Most of my media library is in .wav format and it would be great if I could stream it to my Galaxy S5 without transcoding (like I can on my iPad). I know the S5 can play .wav files without any issues as I can access the media library directly from my network app and play any .wav file on the phone.

It would be wonderful to be able to do this on my galaxy S5. Hopefully, you're considering it with a future version of JRemote??  ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on June 02, 2015, 07:21:31 pm
The progress bar is too close to the rating stars.  If you drag the progress bar to hear the middle of a track, your finger can hit the stars and before you know it you have some dumb star rating you didn't want.

Is there a way to hide those stars?

Also the time remaining is still often wrong and can run into negative numbers.  It happens as soon as you click the next track button, whereupon the time remaining (displayed to the right of the progress bar) is not updated, but carries over from the previous track.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: miklats on June 03, 2015, 11:15:07 am
Hello

I cant find how to enlarge the Album files on my Android Pad.
For my eyes they are way to small.

Thank you
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: adrianmak on June 04, 2015, 05:40:01 pm
did the app optimized for large screen tablet size device ? or
same look on phone and tablet
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 06:35:40 pm
Would you please fix the problem with my ASUS tablet?

I haven't been able to even try the app once, it crashes immediately.

Why should i have to buy another tablet when many other apps run well?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 04, 2015, 06:38:06 pm
It's probably not something we can fix.  What is the version of Android?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 06:42:15 pm
It's probably not something we can fix.  What is the version of Android?

ASUS ME302C running android 4.3
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 04, 2015, 06:47:47 pm
Does the audio player on it work?  Try playing an MP3 file.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 07:00:45 pm
I use Gizmo and works perfect
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 07:02:33 pm
Does the audio player on it work?  Try playing an MP3 file.

Nothing works, it crashes before I can do anything, except when I setup the server connection
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 04, 2015, 07:15:26 pm
Not JRemote, but the audio player itself.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 07:16:56 pm
Not JRemote, but the audio player itself.

yes, it does
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 04, 2015, 07:18:28 pm
Try setting conversion to something simple.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 07:23:19 pm
Try setting conversion to something simple.

Sorry, but I do not understand what you want me to do.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 04, 2015, 08:04:41 pm
You may be trying to play files the audio player doesn't like.  You have different choices.  Try the menu button in JRemote.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 08:17:20 pm
I wish I could try but immediately after JRemote connects to the server automatically or manually it just crashes, there is nothing I can do at all.

Have you ever looked at the crash report I have sent several times through google?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 04, 2015, 08:56:10 pm
So it happens before you try to play anything?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 04, 2015, 09:58:48 pm
yes, I load the program, it connects to the server or I choose the server to connect to and it crashes right away.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 05, 2015, 02:52:19 am
The crash on that particular device is somewhere deep in its Android core functions when we try to use RenderScript, which we use to render some of the images.
Unfortunately, I do not think we will be able to fix it anytime soon, not without access to such a device anyway. There are a lot of reports of problems with that tablet of a similar sort, which all comes back to it having a serious design flaw.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: krustycat on June 05, 2015, 05:31:46 am
Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 08, 2015, 06:49:39 am
A new version is on its way to the play store. As always, it'll be a couple hours before its available for everyone.

20.0.14 / 14 (06/08/2015)

1. NEW: The view mode is save individually for every browse and track view.
2. Fixed: A few stability improvements.

-------------------

Before questions come up, here a short explanation how the view mode is saved. Its not saved for every individual "folder", but based on the underlying views (at least if you have MC 20.0.113 or newer)
That means, if you have a view set up with categories for Artists and Albums, then it'll use the same view mode for every artist and every album inside this view.

It is done this way because I do not believe its very useful to change the view mode for one artist, then switch to another one, and having to switch it there again, repeat for 100 artists.

This is similar (although not exactly the same) to how MC saves the view modes in Theater View.

One addition I might consider for the future is allowing different view modes for different levels of a view.
Going back to the earlier example, you have a category view with Artists -> Albums, and you want a different mode for Artists than for Albums. This isn't supported right now, but I might consider it as a addition in the future.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on June 08, 2015, 08:21:04 am
Great! Quick question, boss: You mentioned some things with the reconnect (which I'm having problems with) some days or maybe a couple of weeks ago. Are those amongst the fixes in this time?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 08, 2015, 08:25:06 am
Great! Quick question, boss: You mentioned some things with the reconnect (which I'm having problems with) some days or maybe a couple of weeks ago. Are those amongst the fixes in this time?

You tell me if it behaves any better now. Its a bit of a complex topic, and seems to work fine on my test devices now.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on June 08, 2015, 08:27:55 am
OK, thanks! I'll see in the next few days and get back to you! Putting it in my calendar to post on Thursday!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DivBy0 on June 08, 2015, 12:40:03 pm

20.0.14 / 14 (06/08/2015)

1. NEW: The view mode is save individually for every browse and track view.
2. Fixed: A few stability improvements.


Nice...very nice. I'm glad to see the unit of measure and similarly "Using native audio format" designation i.e.: FLAC/MP3 all seems to work correctly. Thank You! I would like to point out 2 other issues if I may. If I "Shuffle and Play" my audio collection (3700+ albums, range from 192-44kHz) the time it take to download, compile and play on my galaxy S5, seems to be taking longer than before. I never time how long previously, but now it takes over 60 sec. Finally, once the songs start to play, if I press the info button and try to view the songs metadata, the phone locks up and needs to be restarted to clear. If I was to play a single album and select the info button, the metadata would show correctly with no issue. Thanks, your doing a great job..I like what I see so far....
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Al ex on June 08, 2015, 12:57:14 pm
A new version is on its way to the play store. As always, it'll be a couple hours before its available for everyone.

20.0.14 / 14 (06/08/2015)

1. NEW: The view mode is save individually for every browse and track view.
2. Fixed: A few stability improvements.

-------------------

Before questions come up, here a short explanation how the view mode is saved. Its not saved for every individual "folder", but based on the underlying views (at least if you have MC 20.0.113 or newer)
That means, if you have a view set up with categories for Artists and Albums, then it'll use the same view mode for every artist and every album inside this view.

It is done this way because I do not believe its very useful to change the view mode for one artist, then switch to another one, and having to switch it there again, repeat for 100 artists.

This is similar (although not exactly the same) to how MC saves the view modes in Theater View.

One addition I might consider for the future is allowing different view modes for different levels of a view.
Going back to the earlier example, you have a category view with Artists -> Albums, and you want a different mode for Artists than for Albums. This isn't supported right now, but I might consider it as a addition in the future.
Hi Hendrik, I wish you could finish the remaining 10% of the initial Android version - like WoL, Put to Sleep, show right formats in Metadata, choose which Metadata to show.
At least a planned implementation schedule would be good to know... Cheers.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 08, 2015, 01:21:04 pm
We generally do not publish detailed future plans, even less so with priorities or dates attached.
There also are no "promised" features which would make a 100% version, as you seem to believe. Features are implemented as we weigh their priority and complexity.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: gpqpptdp on June 09, 2015, 03:30:50 am
Hello

I'm installed JRemote on my LG G3 with lollipop and JRiver 20.
Impossible to use the app.

The server doesn't stay in memory, it desappears all the time .
I have approximatly 15-20s between the app and JRiver for changing a song for exemple and It overheats my G3

I tried the both way to connect and nothing changes.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on June 10, 2015, 02:26:51 am
I'm afraid I still have the autoconnect problems, especially when I "close" the app by using the home button on my S5. It seems like it does autoconnect some times if I close it with back, back, back, back... and so on until I'm completely out of the library view I'm working in. And when I connect manually I will still have to go back, back, back until I'm at the root before it works as it should. :(
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on June 10, 2015, 07:39:28 pm
There was a JRemote update last night on my Asus ME176C tablet. Basically, everything still works fine. Connection is instant (I used static IP and NOT the access code).

However, the progress bar and time remaining digits remain very buggy.  Frozen bar, negative digits.  Bar at end of track with track still playing etc., etc.

Edit:  If you press the "circle i" symbol to display the track info and then return, the progress bar and time remaining seem to correct themselves.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on June 19, 2015, 12:56:28 am
So are you going to fix this?  The progress bar works flawlessly on Gizmo and BubbleUPnP, but on this JRemote app, whatever code is sitting behind the progress bar must have errors in it.

Another of its behaviours is that when you drag it to a middle part of a playing track, it can throw you into the next track!  It really is a mess.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 19, 2015, 06:51:51 am
Nice...very nice. I'm glad to see the unit of measure and similarly "Using native audio format" designation i.e.: FLAC/MP3 all seems to work correctly. Thank You! I would like to point out 2 other issues if I may. If I "Shuffle and Play" my audio collection (3700+ albums, range from 192-44kHz) the time it take to download, compile and play on my galaxy S5, seems to be taking longer than before. I never time how long previously, but now it takes over 60 sec.

I'm not sure why this would be slower now, but in any case loading a playlist of over 3700 albums (so what, 40000+ tracks?) is probably too much for comfort.
Gizmo for example has a size limit on playlist length of 1000 tracks so its not excessively long. I didn't chose to implement such a limit, but if you use it in such a way, its obviously going to take some time to load your entire music database onto the phone, and maybe even for MC to assemble the list before it starts sending it out.

It might be better to use a pre-shuffled Smartlist with a track number limit (ie. like the built-in "100 Random Songs" smartlist) if this approach is just too slow.

I'm afraid I still have the autoconnect problems, especially when I "close" the app by using the home button on my S5. It seems like it does autoconnect some times if I close it with back, back, back, back... and so on until I'm completely out of the library view I'm working in. And when I connect manually I will still have to go back, back, back until I'm at the root before it works as it should. :(

Do you restart MC in between, or does MC change its IP or something, or is this over several days of inactivity?
I'm not sure why you would otherwise even need a reconnect, its not like there is a permanent connection between JRemote and MC.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: jbrumatti on June 19, 2015, 09:03:28 pm
Hello.
I bought JRemote for Android just thinking of Metadata features such as the Artist Bio, and perhaps even the ability to access the Lyrics.
In addition to not have these resources available (only appears the logo of the Last.FM), the albums covers are very small on the tablet.
For some of these problems existed solution?
Thank you.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on June 20, 2015, 05:27:55 am
The pause/play button sometimes shows as a play button when music is already playing.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DivBy0 on June 21, 2015, 03:30:22 pm
.....in any case loading a playlist of over 3700 albums (so what, 40000+ tracks?) is probably too much for comfort.
Gizmo for example has a size limit on playlist length of 1000 tracks so its not excessively long. I didn't chose to implement such a limit, but if you use it in such a way, its obviously going to take some time to load your entire music database onto the phone, and maybe even for MC to assemble the list before it starts sending it out.

It might be better to use a pre-shuffled Smartlist with a track number limit (ie. like the built-in "100 Random Songs" smartlist) if this approach is just too slow.


Thanks for the Smartlist tip. I haven't used it before, finally got it to work and it's kinda cool. Only problem is once invoked, it maintains its "100 Random Songs" in memory. The only way I can see to refresh or get a new 100 Song list is to restart media server. But unlike the Smartlist, using "Shuffle and play" for Artist or Album you get a refresh of all songs each time invoked. Well that's probably better served on another Topic for another day.....
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 22, 2015, 05:55:59 am
I've posted a new version to the play store. As always, it'll take a couple hours before the new version reaches everyone, so be a bit patience.

20.0.15 / 15 (06/22/2015)

1. Fixed: WakeOnLan requests did not work properly.
2. Fixed: Time Elapsed when playing to a remote system should be more reliable (testing appreciated).
3. NEW: Option to select the size of thumbnails in browse and track views.

------------------

The new option to select the thumbnail size should help tablet users specifically. We do plan to improve the overall experience on tablets in a future version, but this should be a first quick fix to increase the size of album thumbnails in the different views, making it a bit more usable.

Additionally, for those using WakeOnLan, please do test if it works now. It should behave quite similar to Gizmo now, and hopefully also work then!
It'll send a WoL request automatically when you try to connect. The re-try and timeout for connecting may still need tweaking, so it may be required to hit connect a second time to give the system time to startup after the WoL request.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on June 23, 2015, 05:32:14 am
Re Item 2, now the time remaining (controlling MC20 to play to itself) seems OK.  There is a split second before it appears now, but then it's OK and the correct numbers seem to display.  Same after selecting the next track or any other track/album.  Seems good.

However!!!  I have never once seen MC crash on my PC until tonight (I have been using it since MC18).  The phone rang, so I pressed pause on JRemote.

After the call finished and while it was still paused, I changed my mind about what to play and selected another album.  No sound and the play button would not work.

I went to the PC to see that MC had crashed/was not responding.  A first!

Re Item 3, the larger thumbnails are a lot better.

Also someone else pointed out that the artist bio just shows a "Last.FM" logo.  I concur.

Edit: Re Item 1, this can't be tested on my Asus tablet as it seems to send a magic packet automatically upon start-up, so PC amd MC20 server are out of hibernation before invoking JRemote anyway.
Title: Re:
Post by: Al ex on June 23, 2015, 02:50:46 pm
WoL works on my Android 4.4.2, however, I was wondering for what the WoL button is, because this one did not work.
Title: Re:
Post by: Hendrik on June 23, 2015, 02:54:18 pm
WoL works on my Android 4.4.2, however, I was wondering for what the WoL button is, because this one did not work.

Hm I thought it should. I'll check if its hooked up properly.
Title: Re:
Post by: DivBy0 on June 23, 2015, 05:23:11 pm
WoL works on my Android 4.4.2, however, I was wondering for what the WoL button is, because this one did not work.
Same results on Android 5.0
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: GalNoam on June 24, 2015, 11:24:59 pm
Hello
Images Problem
I have the latest ver installed
when used as remote when clicking on a specific
photo it's enlarged on the server screen
when trying to enlarge photo on my smartphone
it just wouldn't happened

I use Elephone 5000 android smartphone

thank you
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: sorepinky on June 26, 2015, 04:04:48 am
Today frozen controls on JRemote, progress bar displaying zeros while music is playing, then JRiver finally crashing again.  The software is very unstable.
Title: Re:
Post by: park on June 28, 2015, 02:16:13 am
First off, great work on the beautiful interface for this app. It mostly works glitch free for me remotely playing music and videos.

One bug I think I've found is that if I disconnect my wifi router between commutes and then try to play music on my way home, it seems that while I am still able to browse my library I can't actually play anything until I force jremote to connect to my home server again.

Secondly and interface request. Could you make it so that Audio/Images/Video stay in the lefthand pull out menu? Often when I am one or two levels deep inside a view the lefthand menu goes totally blank. The only way to get back to the top is to use the physical back button of the phone multiple times and this isn't a very elegant browsing method.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on June 28, 2015, 05:28:48 am
I guess this may be a known problem (or is it only me?) but search does not work at all, anywhere.

Also reconnect still only works if I go out of the app by pressing back until I get out of it. If I press home and then try to open it later, it will remember the files that were shown the last time, but they don't do anything. I have to press back until I'm completely out of the app and then start it. That makes it reconnect.

Still I love the app and use it several times every day! :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: dswartzman on June 29, 2015, 02:16:01 pm
I am using MC19.  I have been using Gizmo on my Samsung Note 3.  It had accepted my Access Key.

I wanted to switch to JRemote.

In initializing JRemote, it asked for my Access Key.  I entered the Access Key as found on MC19.  I got a response that says that the Access Key must be six characters, which my Access Key is.  It won't let me proceed.

There is a panel asking for my username and password.  I have been entering the username and Access Key found on MC19 into those two windows.

What am I doing wrong?

DS
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on June 29, 2015, 03:25:45 pm
Checking if an access key is exactly 6 characters long isn't exactly rocket science, so you can imagine that its hard to get that wrong. Which leads us to your access key in fact not being 6 characters.
I would recommend you check if the Android keyboard you are using isn't doing something stupid and adding invisible characters somewhere or something like that - if in question, temporarily set your keyboard to the built-in default google keyboard, as I know that this one works fine.

I believe I've heard before that Samsung specifically does stuff like that, and other people solved it by switching keyboards.
Oddly enough, my Galaxy S6 didn't give me any troubles with the access key however.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HiRez_Lover on June 30, 2015, 12:55:32 pm
I downloaded JRemote for my Galaxy S4 a few days ago.
When I try to connect to my music PC (which Gizmo on Kindle can do) I am asked for the AccessKey, which I know,
and for a User Name and Password.  What credentials is it looking for? WiFi, NAS, PC, other?

Also, is there a reason that when I do download JRemote on my Kindle it doesn't work. I forget exactly why now, but
it seems like it is confusing the Kindle with the S4.

Thanks,
Jay
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mojave on June 30, 2015, 01:43:06 pm
The username and password are only needed if you have authentication turned on in Tools > Options > Media Network.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HiRez_Lover on June 30, 2015, 02:36:29 pm
Ah. Cool. Thanks
Jay
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Bccc1 on July 05, 2015, 01:30:18 pm
An already fixed bug (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=96348.msg666151#msg666151) reappeared:
When I select the n-th Item in a filtered view it plays the n-th Item from the unfiltered List.
That happens on a Nexus 7 2013 WiFi on Android 5.0.2 with JRemote 20.0.15.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on July 15, 2015, 09:03:20 am
Quick question, so I don't keep beating a dead horse: Does anybody have search working in the app? Gizmo searches without any problems, JRemote doesn't search at all.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on July 15, 2015, 09:07:26 am
Quick question, so I don't keep beating a dead horse: Does anybody have search working in the app? Gizmo searches without any problems, JRemote doesn't search at all.

Works fine here, but the scope of the search is limited to whatever items are displayed in the current view.  So if you're at the top level, it won't do much, but if you drill into the artist view and search, it'll filter to the artists that match the search term.  So searching for "love" at the top level gives me nothing, but searching in the artist view gives me the bands "Love," "H.P. Lovecraft," and "Gene Loves Jezebel," but no tracks or album names that have the word love in them, etc. 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on July 15, 2015, 09:11:05 am
There is a global search in the drawer menu which works for me
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on July 15, 2015, 09:14:53 am
There is a global search in the drawer menu which works for me


Ah, so there is!  Works well here, and with with nice category indexing too!  That's actually a really nice feature, glad you mentioned it.

FWIW, I'd have never realized it worked differently from the other search box because it's labelled the same way.  Maybe it should be labelled "Search All" or "Global Search"?  
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on July 15, 2015, 09:41:56 am
Checking if an access key is exactly 6 characters long isn't exactly rocket science, so you can imagine that its hard to get that wrong. Which leads us to your access key in fact not being 6 characters.
I would recommend you check if the Android keyboard you are using isn't doing something stupid and adding invisible characters somewhere or something like that - if in question, temporarily set your keyboard to the built-in default google keyboard, as I know that this one works fine.

I believe I've heard before that Samsung specifically does stuff like that, and other people solved it by switching keyboards.
Oddly enough, my Galaxy S6 didn't give me any troubles with the access key however.

Not only using other keyboard , make sure you do not use any other options , try disable or uncheck options within your choice of keyboard.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on July 16, 2015, 04:07:58 am
Aha, thanks! That helped. But is it possible to personalize it? What I would have liked was to single tracks to show by name only, not in separate "track by", since that makes it a lot more difficult to find that I'm looking for. Also it's a bit unintuitive to search for "bush" (I was going to play Beating around the bush by AC/DC), and then get albums that don't have the word Bush in them, but are by Stan Bush, Kate Bush and so on, when the artists are in the Artist cathegory.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on July 16, 2015, 04:16:13 am
Aha, thanks! That helped. But is it possible to personalize it? What I would have liked was to single tracks to show by name only, not in separate "track by", since that makes it a lot more difficult to find that I'm looking for. Also it's a bit unintuitive to search for "bush" (I was going to play Beating around the bush by AC/DC), and then get albums that don't have the word Bush in them, but are by Stan Bush, Kate Bush and so on, when the artists are in the Artist cathegory.

The search is performed by MC, there is no way to customize it.
Personally I also like being able to search for an artist and get his albums shown.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: highks on July 22, 2015, 05:04:48 am
Hi there, I just registered to ask about a bug in JRemote that I am not sure has been discussed here before, but I am experiencing it on two different Android devices.

I searched the forums and found two or three mentions of the problem: the overall duration of the current track and the remaining time is often wrong. However in my case, the problem is there for every track in a playlist that is not the first track. I am usually playing FLAC files on a Windows 7 PC (WASAPI to a USB-DAC), but occasionally I also have AAC and mp3 files in a playlist, it doesn't matter, the problem is the same. I have not been able to find a single track in my collection that does not show this problem.

I usually like to listen to albums, not my own playlists, that means I choose an album from the search. Then the first track is displayed correctly, but starting with the second track, both overall duration and remaining time are off. Sometimes by 10 seconds, sometimes by two minutes.

However, I have found a workaround for this problem: just open the android menu where you can choose between running Apps, then select JRemote again and voilŕ: the time is now displayed correctly! This works on a Samsung Galaxy S3 (Android 4.4) as well as on a Galaxy S6 (Android 5.something). The downside is, you have to do this for every new track, so shuffling through different tracks of an album quickly is quite the hassle.

I am hoping that this should be rather easy to fix because obviously something that happens when I open the Android app-menu forces JRemote to read the track info again.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on July 24, 2015, 05:24:12 pm
Development still happening with this?
Been a couple months since i asked about these...

chromecast
confirm exit
visible text to let us know where we are playing from/too... like gizmo has.

Really loving the in your face Info circle on playing now. Makes it easy for people to find the movies information...  after all these are media players which should entail giving you information on what it is you may be viewing (great addition from Gizmo).

It would be nice if an additional screen or info button could be added right before the video you select plays, so that one can view the movie description without having to go into playback mode first (I'm aware press and hold is an option, it would just be nice if basic info was there before beginning playback, or at the very least maybe a info icon on the screen for those less savvy that do not press menu's, or know of press and hold.)

Right now like gizmo and other media remotes here It's kind of like going to blockbuster down the street and asking the rental assistance if they could give you info on what this particular movie entailed because there was no back cover. (there is no in your face way to view it's description)

A little polishing would be nice on the metadata screen. 1. for videos the whole cover art viewable, right now it seems to be cut off on the top/bottom. 2. Showing most useful tags on top... description, cover art, artist, actor, director, genre, playlist. Right now it shows filename, name, filetype, bitrate, image file etc... Even better would be a way for us to choose which tags we want to show, and which are editable.)

thanks for your time, considerations.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: laerm on July 30, 2015, 01:53:37 pm
Hi, thanks for bringing JRemote to Android. I love it on my iPad. This looks like a general feedback thread, so I have two things that I wanted to pass on.

1. JRemote is EXTREMELY resource intensive on my phone (1st gen Moto X). Playing music with the app backgrounded makes touch occasionally unresponsive, and whatever other app I am using is very slow. (If I'm listening to music on my phone, I'm normally playing a simple game with little animation like a card game while in bed.)

2. The app is "always open." I don't know how to describe this any better... Even though I haven't used the app in 14 hours, the controls are still in the notifications and the album cover art is still on the lock screen.

Thanks!
Micah
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: keenan on July 30, 2015, 02:06:58 pm
Hi, thanks for bringing JRemote to Android. I love it on my iPad. This looks like a general feedback thread, so I have two things that I wanted to pass on.

1. JRemote is EXTREMELY resource intensive on my phone (1st gen Moto X). Playing music with the app backgrounded makes touch occasionally unresponsive, and whatever other app I am using is very slow. (If I'm listening to music on my phone, I'm normally playing a simple game with little animation like a card game while in bed.)

2. The app is "always open." I don't know how to describe this any better... Even though I haven't used the app in 14 hours, the controls are still in the notifications and the album cover art is still on the lock screen.

Thanks!
Micah

I've been using JRemote on my first gen Moto X and I have had only very brief unresponsiveness when starting a new track. I've tried running games and other apps and can't reproduce what you're experiencing. Not sure what's going on there, is there something else hogging the resources on your phone?

Regarding the "always open" issue. You should be able to press the stop button in this view (http://i.imgur.com/k6OTnux.png) to remote it from the notifications bar and lock screen.

Keenan
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: laerm on July 30, 2015, 02:12:54 pm
I've been using JRemote on my first gen Moto X and I have had only very brief unresponsiveness when starting a new track. I've tried running games and other apps and can't reproduce what you're experiencing. Not sure what's going on there, is there something else hogging the resources on your phone?

To be honest, I dunno what other apps (or types of apps) could be hogging resources. This is my first Android device, and even though I've had it for a year already, I still think its behavior is a bit unpredictable. What kinds of apps are resource hogs on Android? I don't play any type of fancy game at all, and I'd assume those would suck up the most resources.

Quote
Regarding the "always open" issue. You should be able to press the stop button in this view (http://i.imgur.com/k6OTnux.png) to remote it from the notifications bar and lock screen.

Well, that's my normal behavior with it, but it's never done anything other than how I've described it.

Thanks for the help –
Micah
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on August 11, 2015, 03:04:56 am
Thanks for the awesome work on this so far Hendrik. It's come a long way in a short time.:)

I've just gone to the dark side and purchased my first Android tablet. The Acer Iconia Tab 8 running KitKat 4.4.4. (on a side note more impressed with Android than I thought I would be)
Everything works great so far and I only have one question.

I'm using it tethered with my Pi player running MC for Pi on wifi and a FiiO E17 USB DAC on the tablet. Great so far, however everything is being transcoded before it gets to the DAC.
DAC is staying on 48K 16bit even with native 96K 24bit FLAC with transcoding turned off (Native playback ticked).  EOS also transcodes. 

Any secret sauce to get bit perfect 96/24 via USB DAC?
The same DAC works fine on the iPhone with JRemote playing native bit perfect 96/24 FLAC.



Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on August 11, 2015, 03:07:31 am
You need Android 5 for 96/24 support. Earlier Android versions lack support for anything above 48/16 on the OS level.
Obviously verify first that JRemote is playing the FLAC natively and not transcoding to MP3, but I assume you did that!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on August 11, 2015, 03:38:40 am
Aaaaaaaaaahhhh! Thankyou. (yes definitely not being transcoded in JRemote or on the Pi)  ...... starts hunting around for a custom ROM... nope Acer are only just announcing Lolliop 5.1 devices so a custom ROM is unlikely. Oh well it does everything else well and was only $140. :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on August 13, 2015, 08:07:16 am
Not sure if it's my android device or not but I get buffering pauses during playback from the Pi which I don't get when using JRemote on iPhone. (same track, same library, same Pi server)
The iPhone starts buffering the whole song and starts playing immediately where the android device takes 4 seconds before playback starts. (most noticeably when skipping tracks)

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on August 17, 2015, 06:11:08 am
Ok Hendrik you win. :)

I'm on Android 5.0.2 with a Samsung Galaxy Tab A 8". No luck with 24/96. JRemote says 24/96 but im still getting 16/48 What's the secret sauce? (the other app does output 24/96)

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on August 17, 2015, 07:47:51 am
I just rooted the device and then "fixed" USB OTG support with the USB host check App but still no joy with JRemote or Gizmo.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on August 17, 2015, 07:49:27 am
We just use the OS media player, no influence what it does.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on August 17, 2015, 07:57:54 am
Looks like it's a flaw in the default USB driver implementation. Only limited support.

http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/Android5USB.html
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Arcturus on August 23, 2015, 06:18:50 pm
You need to do something to fix how often it refreshes. Sometimes it can be hours behind compared to what is showing in JRiver on the server. I know this is possible because other apps I use like BubbleUpNP are always on point and even have a Refresh button in case it isn't (which I never had to use).

What's really odd is if its not up to date and I open BubbleUpNP go to the same location that JRemote is behind on then close BubbleUpNP and go back to JRemote it is then up to date, Almost like the other app poked it enough for JRemote to see.

Gizmo also has this problem but its even worse. A refresh button would solve this.

Please fix this cause its really annoying.

Also see you have not yet fixed scaling text size, On my Nexus 10 the text is ridiculously small but on my Nexus 7 (2013) its Okay. Best is have the text size in options.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Charge for 2nd device?
Post by: firedog on August 28, 2015, 04:39:19 am
I bought JRemote for Android and installed it on my phone as soon as the beta came out.
I logged into the same Play Store acc't and I'm trying to install it now on a new tablet, and it keeps asking me to pay. Shouldn't I be able to install it on my tablet without paying again? Or is the license only for one device?
If so, can I uninstall it on my phone and get it for free on my tablet?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on August 28, 2015, 04:48:06 am
As long as both devices use the same account, it should be good for all your devices. The play store doesn't really have any options there, so I'm not sure what to tell you. Could ask Google maybe?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android - Now Playing Screen
Post by: firedog on August 28, 2015, 06:00:07 am
Started using the app. It's okay, not nearly as nice as the iOS version. Android 4.42
The main thing bothering me: the "playing now screen". In the iOS  version, the display gives the playlist (text) on the left side, and the album cover on the right side, moderately large.
No equivalent screen that I can find in Android: either a playlist, without enlarged cover; or, a display with a large cover, but without a playlist.

Having the playlist display together with the album cover is very convenient for lots of reasons. Why can't the Android JRemote have such an option?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on August 28, 2015, 06:10:30 am
JRemote is currently optimized for phones. A phone screen is just too small to show both cover and playlist. In the future we might add more tablet-centric layouts, which would allow this.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Aquitaine on September 02, 2015, 12:38:30 pm
Based on previous replies I expect this is a non-starter, but what about availability for large format devices like the Shield TV?

It is based on Android 5.1 but JRemote comes up as incompatible with it in Google Play. Don't want to switch to Plex over one device and would be happy to test it out...is this on the radar?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on September 02, 2015, 03:17:49 pm
There are no artificial limits for large-screen devices, it just wouldn't look very good. But maybe we would need to unlock it specifically for TV-style devices? Should investigate.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Aquitaine on September 02, 2015, 03:27:04 pm
Yes, it's just a device compatibility setting in the Google developer console.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: legend on September 03, 2015, 04:05:59 pm
Not sure if this problem has been sorted before but I am having problems connecting just downloaded JRemote for Android on my Pioneer Computers D7d tablet with Android 4.1.1 to my Windows 7 HP310 computer running MC20.

I have followed the Wizard on your page ”Preparing JR MC for remote control” and all worked well the first time I booted JRemote up on my tablet. However since then a screen briefly flashes up saying it saying it is connecting to the computer and a JRemote screen then comes up for about 2 seconds but then the tablet seems to shut down JRemote.

If I do not have my MC computer switched on a screen come up on the tablet saying “connecting to HP-Music-Room” but then “connection failed” - not surprisingly – so the wi-fi connection between tablet & computer seems correct.

I have done all the usual things like fully rebooting both tablet & computer but the problem just repeats.  Any help much appreciated.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Soul_Rvr911 on September 16, 2015, 10:25:53 pm
I have done all the usual things like fully rebooting both tablet & computer but the problem just repeats.  Any help much appreciated.

Were you able to get this sorted? If not, try clearing the app cache/data on your Android device: in your device's Settings find Apps, then locate JRemote. Press both the Clear Data and Clear Cache buttons and then try opening the app and connecting again.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on September 17, 2015, 01:39:00 am
Also you should always use AccessKey, not IP address. I have problems connecting to my media server at home with IP address, but manage to do so with AccessKey. The strange part is that Gizmo has no problems connecting either way. Oh, and my JRemote keeps forgetting the zone I was on the last time, while Gizmo remembers.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: TomScrut on September 22, 2015, 01:04:55 pm
Only issue I have now is it would be nice to set the default touch library item action. Rather than it playing the album as a playlist I would like to set the default as action as append item to playlist (BubbleUPNP can be set like this). Apart from that it's great!

Oh and have something that shows in the notification bar when running so you can change tracks quickly!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on September 23, 2015, 01:13:39 am
I agree, that's a good idea. It's the way it should have been done all the way back when Gizmo was created.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on September 23, 2015, 02:56:13 am
You can change the default action with a button in the toolbar. Valid options include "Play now", "Play next",  "Append to Playing Now", "Play all now", "Play all next", "Add all to Playing Now", where the first 3 only refer to the selected track, and the later 3 to the entire album/etc you are looking at.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on September 23, 2015, 03:00:10 am
So I can! Didn't know that. Thanks! :)

One thing missing for me is that I keep getting to the active zone on the server, not the zone I used last (which I did before). Is there anything I can do for that? I have unchecked App follow and Server follo, which I've always have had unchecked. I have the latest MC20.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: thecrow on September 25, 2015, 12:12:13 pm
What's really odd is if its not up to date and I open BubbleUpNP go to the same location that JRemote is behind on then close BubbleUpNP and go back to JRemote it is then up to date, Almost like the other app poked it enough for JRemote to see.

I've noticed similar behaviour, open JRemote and keep hitting refresh to try to see a renderer without any luck. Get frustrated and decide to use BubbleUPnP instead which sees it instantly then check JRemote and it too now sees the device.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Trumpetguy on October 15, 2015, 04:34:50 am
Hello
Images Problem
I have the latest ver installed
when used as remote when clicking on a specific
photo it's enlarged on the server screen
when trying to enlarge photo on my smartphone
it just wouldn't happened

I use Elephone 5000 android smartphone

thank you

Doesn't work, see this thread: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=100485.0
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 08, 2015, 09:16:19 am
I've not asked since June 24th...

Not to be/sound pushy but was really hoping for JRemote to have these features implemented.
Still on the table?

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Development still happening with this?
Been a couple months since i asked about these...

chromecast
confirm exit
visible text to let us know where we are playing from/too... like gizmo has.

Really loving the in your face Info circle on playing now. Makes it easy for people to find the movies information...  after all, these are media players which should entail giving you information on what it is you may be viewing (great addition from Gizmo).

It would be nice if an additional screen or info button could be added right before the video you select plays, so that one can view the movie description without having to go into playback mode first (I'm aware press and hold is an option, it would just be nice if basic info was there before beginning playback, or at the very least maybe a info icon on the screen for those less savvy that do not press menu's, or know of press and hold.)
Right now like gizmo and other media remotes here, It's kind of like going to blockbuster down the street and asking the rental assistance if they could give you info on what this particular movie entailed because there was no back cover. (there is no in your face way to view it's description)

A little polishing would be nice on the metadata screen. 1. for videos the whole cover art viewable, right now it seems to be cut off on the top/bottom. 2. Showing most useful tags on top... description, cover art, artist, actor, director, genre, playlist. Right now it shows filename, name, filetype, bitrate, image file etc... Even better would be a way for us to choose which tags we want to show, and which are editable.)

thanks for your time, considerations.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: stealer on November 09, 2015, 06:00:21 pm
I had flipped through the 9 pages and pretty sure this question had not been asked/answered.
 If yes, I am truly sorry I missed it.......
Can JRemote for Android interface with a Mac mini running JRiver21 for Mac.?
..if not, can Gizmo on Android phone interface with the above Mac.

Giving up my iPad in place of Samsung Tab.

Any1 is currently in this configuration?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on November 10, 2015, 12:47:31 am
JRemote for Android will work with MC on any OS that MC runs on.
Title: Re:
Post by: park on November 10, 2015, 09:05:59 pm
Feature request: Always show the top level media categories in the app drawer.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Castius on November 30, 2015, 04:38:26 pm
Just curious what is the state of jremote development?
Can we get a list of upcoming features or know limitations? Similar to how you handle JMC development.

Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Allen Brier on December 02, 2015, 05:30:26 pm
What is the difference between JRemote and Gizmo?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on December 02, 2015, 05:40:40 pm
$10.  Gizmo is free.
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: laerm on December 02, 2015, 09:11:15 pm
What is the difference between JRemote and Gizmo?
For me, it comes down to two things:
1. Play Doctor works on Gizmo
2. Playlists can be edited from JRemote
Title: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: AndrewFG on December 03, 2015, 05:45:54 am
For me, it comes down to two things:
1. Play Doctor works on Gizmo
2. Playlists can be edited from JRemote

Play Doctor works on JRemote too..
Title: Re: Re: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: laerm on December 03, 2015, 10:54:09 am
Play Doctor works on JRemote too..
Not to the device. At least, not to my Android phone.
Title: Re:
Post by: park on December 04, 2015, 10:25:08 am
Also, no cast to chromecast on jremote
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mwillems on December 04, 2015, 12:08:43 pm
Also no local cache-ahead on JRemote (i.e. gizmo will let you cache 10 songs in advance, so you can "fill up" while still on wifi)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DivBy0 on December 22, 2015, 09:28:05 am
Also no local cache-ahead on JRemote (i.e. gizmo will let you cache 10 songs in advance, so you can "fill up" while still on wifi)

I love that cache feature in Gizmo, but don't forget JRemote supposedly can stream native audio format to phone (ie: 24bit 192kHz flac, so I am told). Gizmo will always first transcode to mp3, then send to phone. So if you have an unlimited data plan and a high quality phone DAC capable of quality transcoding's, no need to buy a Pono from Neil.....for me this is a big benefit...well maybe more so in up coming years.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: blizzard on December 29, 2015, 11:38:17 pm
Hi all

I am new here so hello to everyone! I purchased JRemote about 4 months ago through google playstore and my google account. I have since changed to a new phone but google does not find JRemote as one of my purchased apps so what now as I dont want to have to pay for it again.
Thank you in advance
Blizzard ::)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on December 29, 2015, 11:53:56 pm
The Google store decides whether the app will run on each device.  We can't change that.

I'll move this to a new thread.  I removed your duplicate post.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: stanzani on December 30, 2015, 02:54:57 am
hello
I am a newbie about JRiver so here it is a stupid question: launching JRemote (on Android) how can I exit the program (of course I can going in the application stack and kill it from here but I am asking if there is a smoother way out)
thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on December 30, 2015, 03:08:52 am
On Android, you don't exit programs.  I find it a little odd, but that's what it is.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: stanzani on December 30, 2015, 04:56:23 am
true but, at least, you can hide them (even if they stay alive in the application stack). I can't hide JRemore, though ...)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on December 30, 2015, 04:58:56 am
Just press the Home button or the Back button a number of times and you'll get out of JRemote, and if nothing is playing it'll just "hide" itself. If something is playing, its specifically designed to install itself into the notification area.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: nebulix on January 04, 2016, 07:13:16 pm
Are you able to view live television channels in JRemote? So JRiver with a TV tuner card and creating a Media View for Gizmo?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Daveyravey on January 21, 2016, 02:16:17 am
any idea when we will get chrome cast support?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on January 25, 2016, 09:26:58 am
I have noticed that JRemote often does not recognize a zone (media renderer) that is obviously visible to JRiver Media Center as I can play to the device using Bubble remote.  When this happens, Gizmo also does not recognize the zone.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: AndrewFG on January 25, 2016, 02:12:20 pm
Firewall or router issue.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on January 25, 2016, 02:21:32 pm
Firewall or router issue.



Thanks for your reply.  Can you elaborate? And why is it that whenever this happens, it is always visible to Bubble remote?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on January 25, 2016, 03:40:08 pm
Different port?

Open 52199.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on January 25, 2016, 09:36:54 pm
Different port?

Open 52199.

I will try that.  Thanks.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Reinhard on February 03, 2016, 11:10:13 am
When streaming FLAC-files from JRiver Server to my renderer via WLAN, is it right I don't get full FLAC-quality? Music sounds a bit "narrow" as with 128kbps mp3, although I chose 320 kbps in JRemote.   
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on February 03, 2016, 11:13:59 am
When streaming FLAC-files from JRiver Server to my renderer via WLAN, is it right I don't get full FLAC-quality? Music sounds a bit "narrow" as with 128kbps mp3, although I chose 320 kbps in JRemote.   

If you just use JRemote to control streaming from MC to a DLNA renderer, then the quality settings in JRemote do not affect the playback, you need to configure MC itself.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Reinhard on February 03, 2016, 11:58:29 am
I chose "PCM 24-bit" and "Original" file Settings (FLAC) in Settings of DLNA Server but sound via "air" (WLAN) ist not the same quality as directly out of JRiver MC. Anyway thanks for the hint
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: somebike on February 08, 2016, 07:45:03 am
Try going to media network and configuring your DLNA settings.  They do not necessarily default to your MC settings.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on February 15, 2016, 04:38:55 pm
Often, I want to play ALL the tracks from a particular artist. I can search the artist on my Android device, but I can't multi-select the albums I see by the artist and choose to play them (random, for instance). Will that functionality come one day? Maybe a "Files" icon under "Audio" would suffice, when the search function could work there.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: blgentry on February 16, 2016, 08:11:03 am
^ In Gizmo, if you do a search, one of the matches will be Artist.  When you click on the result, you get a menu with a few choices.  One is "play", which seems to do a semi-random ordering of full albums.  Another is Shuffle, which adds all songs in a full random order (not by album).  I actually think that the Gizmo results aren't very useful because you can NOT drill down from search results to find an album or a song.  You just get the menu.

I'll bet we could build you a view that does what you want though.  Displays Artists, and when you click the artist, displays all songs from all albums.  Optionally ordered randomly by album (but sorted within album).  If that would be helpful, I think it would be easy to do.

Brian.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on February 16, 2016, 10:45:20 am
That makes me just a tad giddy... As I start to imagine a life with an Id, and no laptop interface, I'm paying a bit more attention to what I'd use to control MC, and that's my Android phone...
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: raduschka on February 16, 2016, 09:35:27 pm
Hello, I love jremote from my ios days. So I installed it on my Android Lg G4 smartphone.
Everything seems to work well, except that for an unknown reason, when playing back on the device (the LG) albums are treated as if there was no .cue file. Actually, on one hand all the tracks are DISPLAYED accurately as a list (name and duration etc), but when I select any track the whole .flac file will be played back from the beginning and the only way to advance through it is to move the cursor manually. I have albums that are stored as individual .flac files and some that are stored as .cue+.flac. I believe this problem affects only the latteré I also believe that the problem hits after a certain period of correct functioning. Reconnecting to the server possibly resets the situation and then bang.
Thanks
Raduschka
ps: faulty albums on the device work flawlessly on the pc (remotely controlled through JRemote or otherwise)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: lepa on February 20, 2016, 06:10:40 am
Any plans for JRemote? Would like to see picture support, better caching (free Gizmo works better).  There are also some bugs that I would like to see fixed. For example playing now doesn't get populated always especially when using Search to add music to playlist.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on February 22, 2016, 04:11:58 am
We've just pushed a new version of JRemote for Android that adds ChromeCast and ChromeCastAudio support.  Please be aware that this is the initial version of ChromeCast support, so if you encounter any problems with it, please do report them. Those devices can be a bit finicky at times.
You can connect to a cast device on the navigation views from the action bar. The Playing Now screen unfortunately didn't cooperate and didn't get a cast icon yet, but I didn't want that to hold up the release, so it'll get one in the next version.

As always, it'll be a couple hours before the version is approved and available for all devices.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Rodger3876 on February 22, 2016, 08:12:40 pm
Thanks for the Chromecast, Great product, Testing & working great.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on February 22, 2016, 09:31:39 pm
Thank you for the report.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on February 22, 2016, 10:03:54 pm
 I was able to watch Lionel Richie - Live in Paris and Celine Dion Live in Vegas concerts back to back with no freezing or glitch. Video quality excellent on my Sony XBR75850C 4k TV.
I am using  Samsung Galaxy Note 3.

Thanks for updating JRemote.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: jmone on February 22, 2016, 11:23:50 pm
So how does "casting work" is it:
- JRemote sends a link to the content to the Chromecast that then pulls a stream directly from MC,
 or
- JRemote acts a a bridge with the content being sent via the device running JRemote from MC to the Chromecast

I hope it is the first, and if so;
- What determines the Format, Bitrate, etc etc?
- What protocol does it use (eg if it DLNA based, how on earth does it support multi room audio sync)?

Thanks
Nathan
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on February 26, 2016, 04:07:32 am
The cast device just gets a URL to the media file from JRemote, using the same quality settings as set in JRemote at the time (sans untouched, as that doesn't seem to work very well).

Note that only one track is currently sent to the Cast device, so JRemote needs to keep running to switch tracks at the end.

Google Cast uses its own protocol. It just accesses the media through MCWS (ie. HTTP).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: jmone on February 26, 2016, 06:24:20 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on February 29, 2016, 02:31:55 pm
Wow, that's pretty cool! This opens up some possibilities in my setup, thank you!

The only glitch I can report (only using for Chromecast audio) is that if I start music on my phone and then choose to cast, I have to hit start again - the Chromecast seems not to pick up the already-in-progress music, as other services do.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on February 29, 2016, 02:34:38 pm
Quick question: Is it possible to interrupt anything playing on "Connected Media" using JRemote? My wife always has Pandora on, using MC on our server. If I want to change what's playing, I have to interface with the server directly, I see no way of stopping it from JRemote.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: dgm1960 on March 07, 2016, 05:10:58 am
Just a quick congratulations and a thank you for JRemote for Android. Works flawlessly on my Samsung tablet, and the interface is fantastic. If this is to be the basis for Pretty Face, I think you will have a winner.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 07, 2016, 06:53:41 am
Thank you.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on March 07, 2016, 07:52:38 am
hear hear!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Arcturus on March 09, 2016, 05:14:47 pm
Have the ratings not working issue been fixed yet? I really miss that feature, Same problem with Gizmo. Was using that heavily, whenever a song I really liked played.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 09, 2016, 05:43:23 pm
Do you have authentication turned on at the server?  It's required.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on March 10, 2016, 09:48:41 am
I'm experiencing a half-second moment of silence immediately after a song starts (every song) using JRemote on Android through Chrome Audio. So, One second into each song, a pause, then resumption.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on March 10, 2016, 09:53:39 am
The Chromecast Audio device uses WiFi to fetch the audio directly from your PC running Media Center. You could try to make sure the WiFi and the PC are strong enough, it sounds like it might be buffering.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on March 10, 2016, 09:56:25 am
Yes, a known issue with my setup. One more reason to bite the bullet and run CAT6 to this room (tricky project). Recently dedicated a whole 5 Ghz SSID to my server, and still experiencing issues...

Thanks.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 10, 2016, 11:49:53 am
chromecast working great here... thanks for this!

eta on a widget similar to eos?

thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DJLegba on March 10, 2016, 09:28:18 pm
I like JRemote but it would be even better if dates were translated to standard format when viewing metadata.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Arcturus on March 10, 2016, 11:02:13 pm
Do you have authentication turned on at the server?  It's required.

Yes of course. It was working fine for years (in gizmo) then just stopped working. Same for both apps.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 11, 2016, 07:25:00 am
Any security changes?  Firewall?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Arcturus on March 11, 2016, 02:52:32 pm
Any security changes?  Firewall?

No nothing at all, apart from JRiver being updated, which is when it stopped. Not the very last update but the one prior to that. I am on the "stable" update channel. Everything else works great though, its only that.

I noticed other people had this issue a while back but didn't see any solutions to the problem.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 11, 2016, 04:08:01 pm
Security software might block one version and not another. 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Arcturus on March 11, 2016, 05:08:34 pm
But that is not the case here as I don't have any apart from Windows Firewall and that's it. And JRiver is fully authorized. Its also odd that both Gizmo and JRemote ratings stopped working at the time.

While I got you here though, Is JRemote ever going to fix how it refreshes the index of available files?

As it is now it's like a day or several hours behind, even if I force close and re-open the app. I can load another app BubbleUPnP and I get a up to the second listing of the files on my server and on top of that it even has a REFRESH  button just in case it is not. I think it is a very necessary feature. What's funny is, If I see JRemote is behind and I start BubbleUPnP and get the current index then close the app and go back to JRemote, it's then up to date.

Personally I prefer the look of JRemote but end up having to use Bubble 50% of the time because of that issue.

EDIT

So for whatever reason, I just got the update last night. The ratings work again (without having to stop what's playing) so yay, that's fixed.



Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on March 15, 2016, 09:20:50 am
Quick question: Is it possible to interrupt anything playing on "Connected Media" using JRemote? My wife always has Pandora on, using MC on our server. If I want to change what's playing, I have to interface with the server directly, I see no way of stopping it from JRemote.

Can anyone help? Is this possible?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on March 15, 2016, 09:23:56 am
^ In Gizmo, if you do a search, one of the matches will be Artist.  When you click on the result, you get a menu with a few choices.  One is "play", which seems to do a semi-random ordering of full albums.  Another is Shuffle, which adds all songs in a full random order (not by album).  I actually think that the Gizmo results aren't very useful because you can NOT drill down from search results to find an album or a song.  You just get the menu.

I'll bet we could build you a view that does what you want though.  Displays Artists, and when you click the artist, displays all songs from all albums.  Optionally ordered randomly by album (but sorted within album).  If that would be helpful, I think it would be easy to do.

Brian.

You know, I'm not sure I understand fully the difference between Gizmo and JRemote. I have both. I've been using JRemote mostly exclusively on my Android. Can someone help me distinguish? I'm an audio-only guy.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Carlosb1978 on March 16, 2016, 12:38:38 pm
Many thanks for the remote, have just ditched gizmo...

Was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is anyway on JRemote to view the files and folders as they are arranged on my pc?? I have 4TB of music arrange a to z in folders as well as multiple artists, classical etc... and searching rather than browsing is not exactly how I'd prefer to choose the music I listen to...

Please help.

Many Thanks

Carl
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: highks on March 23, 2016, 07:05:38 am
@This2ShallPass, I always found the search in Gizmo really confusing.
If you search for an artist, you get multiple results and if you click on the wrong one, JRiver will open the album art as a picture or something like that.

With JRemote, the search results are a lot more like in JRiver itself (= they make sense)

This was one of the main reasons I bought JRemote and got rid of Gizmo. I just wasn't able to figure out the logic behind the search function in Gizmo!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on April 19, 2016, 06:45:02 am
Quote
eta on a widget similar to eos?
Any chance of a widget?
Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on April 19, 2016, 08:16:34 am
@This2ShallPass, I always found the search in Gizmo really confusing.
If you search for an artist, you get multiple results and if you click on the wrong one, JRiver will open the album art as a picture or something like that.

With JRemote, the search results are a lot more like in JRiver itself (= they make sense)

This was one of the main reasons I bought JRemote and got rid of Gizmo. I just wasn't able to figure out the logic behind the search function in Gizmo!

Any thoughts about combining the functionality of these two apps (Gizmo and JRemote) into one? There are clearly benefits to using one (as illustrated above, with JRemote search results), and then the other (as a Theater View remote for what's playing on the server/client elsewhere, where Gizmo shines). Everything else seems duplicative.

Am I off base here?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on April 22, 2016, 01:31:47 pm
Yup, something's not right with Gizmo and JRemote... cannot get - under any circumstances - more than one song to play when using ChromeCast Audio.

To be clear: Selecting a playlist, or a search output, selecting "Add to playing now" or "Shuffle and Play all" or any other function will play ONE SONG, and then stop.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DJLegba on April 22, 2016, 01:39:30 pm
I have no trouble casting from Gizmo. I haven't bothered trying from JRemote Android because JRemote stops after one track even without casting. However, if you install BubbleUPnP on your MC computer you can set up your CCA as a DNLA renderer and control it with JRemote by switching the zone from This Device to your CCA.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on April 22, 2016, 01:44:52 pm
I have never been able to get zones to work correctly on my setup. I could probably use a tutorial. Each time I try to set up, I get a result that doesn't fit the zone descriptor, and the zone linking NEVER works.

Does this bubble software have to be on the same MC machine (in this case a client) as the CCA, or on the server machine?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DJLegba on April 22, 2016, 01:49:22 pm
Does this bubble software have to be on the same MC machine (in this case a client) as the CCA, or on the server machine?

Not sure I understand. I installed BubbleUPnP on my MC computer. The CCA is just a network device - it's not "on" a computer.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: This2ShallPass on April 22, 2016, 01:50:15 pm
Yeah, I see that I didn't make much sense.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Gunny on May 13, 2016, 03:35:11 pm
Hello - Reposting this here in hopes of getting the right eyeballs on it.

Any help of feedback is appreciated.


When I search for a title using JRemote it finds the title but when I select it, a different title plays.  I can select the same title without using the search feature  (scrolling through the entire library) and it plays correctly.

I have also noticed that ISO's wil not play when selected with JRemote but if selected directly from Theater View they play fine.

I am running JRemote on a Samsung Galaxy Tab S.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on June 16, 2016, 07:12:33 am
Split Development of JRemote (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=105542.0)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: YonathanZ on July 02, 2016, 05:02:02 am
I have looked at the screenshots of the app on the Google Play store, but it only shows a list of audio files.
My question is, is it possible to view the description of movies on the app, or just the title?

I want to use my phone to choose what movie I wanna watch.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Gadgety on October 27, 2016, 09:03:50 am
Video control would be appreciated, useful for watching video on a tablet placed a few meters away, or for music videos :-)

No chance of zone control via bluetooth? Well, I really hope Wear support will be considered sometime in the future, as Android watches are getting more and more popular.

Any plans for an Android Wear remote?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: cncb on November 20, 2016, 03:12:36 pm
Does the app allow you to add songs to existing playlists and create new playlists?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: audunth on November 20, 2016, 05:37:16 pm
I have looked at the screenshots of the app on the Google Play store, but it only shows a list of audio files.
My question is, is it possible to view the description of movies on the app, or just the title?

I want to use my phone to choose what movie I wanna watch.

Yes, if you browse through movies in JRemote, you can long-click on a movie name or cover and select Metadata.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: 123Sunshine on December 01, 2016, 05:46:33 am
A little while ago I bought JRemote for my iPad and iPhone. Now, I would also like to have it on my DAP, the Pioneer XDP-100R.

I can’t find a way to make my purchase valid for the audio player as well. How do I do that?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on December 01, 2016, 07:05:52 am
Android and iOS versions are separate products.  I don't know if the Android version would work on that device.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Capa on February 07, 2017, 08:16:48 am
Some of my artist images are not showing up in JRemote

I think I narrowed it down to Album Artists that have multiple Artist tags.

Is there a work around this?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on February 07, 2017, 11:25:48 am
any eta on
1. widget
2. theaterview control
3. allow editing of genres in all views/subtypes... with the ability to see/have tick boxes (tough to recall all of our genres..makes tagging clean & simple... tick boxes w/ all available choices for all meta data would be stellar!)
4. when playing video, allow video to folloow screen rotation (if viewing vertically, leave vertically.)
5. when video is playing allow for more player controls ... example if one choses to play a playlist/genre/actor in shuffle mode,jremote display view now show controls for play, stop. Having additional controls such as ffwd, rwd, next track, prev. info button, zones, shuffle, and repeat. would be awesome.


I'd be happy 2 pay more for app thats complete. or help pay for program time.
Thanks.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Ekpen on February 07, 2017, 12:11:51 pm
I woke up this morning, thinking about this limitation of JRemote.
I remember, the very first version of JRemote has theater view remote, this feature was removed  later.
I do not mind paying more to help in further developement. This is a very nice app for JRiver.

Thanks.
George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on February 07, 2017, 03:38:02 pm
$100? paypal addy?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: captainkurt on February 28, 2017, 08:55:50 pm
I am having a hard time adding to the now playing cue. Is there a tutorial somewhere? ?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mamita on March 19, 2017, 06:27:39 am
I changed my celfone,so i transferred the jremote to my new celfone using smart switch from samsung.When i open the jremote from my new celfone its says"you have no saved servers.You need at least one to use this remote",so i tapped the button that says "ADD SERVER",its says that i need a jriver access key.My question is where can i find my jriver access key?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hendrik on March 19, 2017, 06:31:04 am
You can see it in the MC Options, under Media Network -> Access Key
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 19, 2017, 07:04:25 am
The wiki also has a topic on Access Key.

For these kinds of problems, search at Google for JRiver Access Key .
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: mamita on March 20, 2017, 05:44:12 am
Thank you so much HENDRIK and JIMH,im already using my jremote. :)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: buggyglint on May 29, 2017, 02:35:37 pm
Since 21.0.1 supports "ChromeCastAudio", does that mean it will play 24bit 192khz/96khz audio from JRiver without transcoding to MP3? Or will I still need to setup a BubbleuPnP server to accommodate lossless casting to the Chromecast Audio.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: buggyglint on June 04, 2017, 07:09:57 pm
Using BubbleuPnP seems to play my files without compression and sounds great but I'm curious about the Chromecast feature instead of using BubbleuPnP and the extra zone. If I select my Chromecast Audio in with the Chromecast button, will it play the files at 24bit/96khz or heavily compress them?

EDIT: Tested, using the Chromecast feature in JRemote for Android will encode all music into MP3 whereas using the BubbleUPnP zone method, will retain original hi res flac.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Goatshade on July 06, 2017, 11:37:02 pm
Is this still actively developed? I notice that both it and Gizmo haven't been updated in some time.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Goatshade on July 26, 2017, 03:07:57 am
Any word yet on theatre view control?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: uncola on August 06, 2017, 06:21:36 am
jremote UI is so easy to use and awesome.. I wish I could use it on my android phone without having to run jriver on my pc.  just use it as a full music playing app on my phone.  any chance that could happen in the future? :P
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on August 06, 2017, 06:38:08 am
jremote UI is so easy to use and awesome.. I wish I could use it on my android phone without having to run jriver on my pc.  just use it as a full music playing app on my phone.  any chance that could happen in the future? :P
Not anytime soon.  You could set it up to play your home collection when you're on the road.  The wiki has a topic on Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access) .
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: slerch666 on September 26, 2017, 02:51:57 pm
I don't know if it is addressed or not in here, I did a search but didn't find anything (doesn't mean my search was right).

What I'd like to have access to with JRemote is equalizer and other audio settings. I also would like the ability to choose which renderer to use. My Marantz is set up as "audio only" but for whatever reason it always tries to choose the generic DLNA "server" I am using, which doesn't playback audio correctly as the Marantz can't play APE.

If access to EQ is available, I can't find it, so if it's documented somewhere, just point and I'll shut up and read.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: narbi on November 11, 2017, 09:49:47 am
This is how the volume control looks like in Linn apps (kazoo, kinsky, ...) :
http://news.linn.co.uk/news/multi%20room%20volume%20control%20525x.png
You simply rotate finger around the volume pot to change volume, slowly or fast.
Something like that in jremote would be really nice, instead of the slider line which is not very practical for small volume changes.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JIMV on January 08, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
anyone ever answer this? I have no idea where to find my access key
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on January 08, 2018, 12:11:41 pm
Please try a Google search for JRiver Access Key.  You will find this wiki topic:

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Access_Key
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Couch on January 10, 2018, 10:19:52 am
Transcoding: on Device or Server?

I'm still looking for the best solution to conserve data on my mobile plan. I have finally figured out the settings combo to cause JRemte to Transcode say FLAC to 128 kbps.

But it occurs to me that I'm really not saving data if the FLAC is streamed to the device and then transcoded.

So... where is this occurring? Server or Device?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on January 10, 2018, 10:31:25 am
Transcoding is done on the server.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Couch on January 10, 2018, 10:45:51 am
Transcoding is done on the server.

 ;D :D :) :D ;D [Happy Dance]
Thanks Jim.

On this same thread - I see Panel stack the transcoded file with the original - but this does not occur when using JRemote. Am I missing something?

Thank you!
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on January 10, 2018, 10:50:41 am
Panel also transcodes on the server.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Couch on January 10, 2018, 11:21:20 am
Panel also transcodes on the server.

... and it creates a stack with the file it creates. But I don't see JRemote doing the same.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DivBy0 on January 21, 2018, 10:30:53 am
JimH, I've been using Gizmo, Eos and JRemote for sometime now for streaming home audio from S8 to my cars Bluetooth audio. For me JRmote works the best. Thank you for you and your teams hard work and hopefully for the continual development of the product. With this said, are you considering requests for possible improvements and or requests for increased functionality?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Goatshade on February 18, 2018, 03:19:55 pm
Would it be possible to enable a Convert format only when necessary feature for JRemote, similar to the existing features in MC's Media Network settings?

I ask because, as it stands, JRemote automatically transcodes all media--which is fine in some circumstances, but I'd love to be able to test two things:


The latter is the gravest concern.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: thecrow on February 19, 2018, 10:33:19 am
In JRemote, settings there is a tick box for "Use native audio format".
Is this not what you are asking for?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Goatshade on February 19, 2018, 01:55:28 pm
I checked and it's ticked. It still indicates that it's transcoding to MP3 320 kbps.

I guess I should take this to mean that APE's, M4A's, and MKA's are unsupported? If so, are they unsupported by JRemote, or my device?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Awesome Donkey on February 19, 2018, 02:29:49 pm
APE not supported?!? Now THAT would surprise me. Matt, any thoughts?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Goatshade on February 20, 2018, 12:44:23 am
Composition of my library as-is:


All of these, except for the FLAC's, transcode to MP3 when playing to my mobile device, whether through LAN or Cloud.

I'm not seeing any setting in MC's options that could be causing this. I just assumed that this was the intent.

Of particular concern are the lossy tracks. These should never be transcoded, if it's possible to avoid.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Goatshade on February 20, 2018, 08:54:50 pm
So I decided on a whim to look up compression ratios for different lossless audio codecs and found this (http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Comparison_Table).

Quote
Streaming: no

Is this why my APE files are not streaming to JRemote without transcoding to MP3?

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: kgosfm on March 04, 2018, 02:11:08 pm
where can I get help re: JRemote remote access connection issues? I followed the directions and enabled port forwarding to port 52199 on my router, but MC23 still says no go.  WHat gives?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on March 04, 2018, 03:36:03 pm
Are you on the same LAN?  Or connecting from outside your LAN.  Port forwarding is only needed for the latter case.

The wiki has a topic called "Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access)".

A firewall may also be blocking.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on March 04, 2018, 04:19:29 pm
has development ended here?
will theaterview control be implemented into jremote?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Amfibius on March 15, 2018, 10:39:01 am
Hello devs, I was wondering if this is the right thread to make feature requests?

I am using JRemote to control JRiver which is installed on a PC which directly outputs into my DAC, and then to my system. All the media files are stored locally on the PC.

There is no file browser in JRemote. Would it be possible to add this feature?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Mastiff on April 13, 2018, 01:47:17 pm
I have a problem with JRemote: It only works when the port is set to 80, so standard HTTP port. But I have something else on the server that needs that port. If I try to set it to anything else, like 8080, Gizmo can still connect, and I can connect from a browser (so it's not a firewall on the server), but JRemote, which is my much prefered way of controlling MC, won't connect. Not with an access key and not with an IP and port. Can there be something wrong I am doing?

Edit: I have also tried other port, like 160008 for kicks, but that still only works with everything BUT JRemote. I have downloaded the test version of EOS, and that connects without a hitch too.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: buggyglint on April 23, 2018, 03:06:40 pm
Current issue with JRemote on Android 7.0 - 8.1, in the notification bar, you can't see the JRemote controls...
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: darichman on May 06, 2018, 04:18:09 am
Is there any way to change/turn off subtitles or audio streams for a video file playing through the JRemote interface?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on May 15, 2018, 07:37:20 am
Has anyone else had problems with FLAC playback on JRemote on Android 7.1.1 ??

FLAC transcoded on server plays back fine as an MP3 stream but native FLAC playback has to download the complete song to JRemote before playback starts in JRemote.
Im talking about local playback to "this device" on JRemote.

on IOS JRemote FLAC streams properly (ie it doesnt download first, it just buffers a few seconds and then starts playback)

MC23 and MC24 do the same which makes me think it's Android specific, and perhaps Android 7.1.1 since it's been a while since I streamed FLAC to the tablet and I dont know when this problem started but it seems like a fairly recent problem.

Just tested EOS and Gizmo and they both also download the FLAC file before playback starts instead of buffering and streaming.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Hilton on May 15, 2018, 08:06:48 am
Confirmed this is a 7.1.1 Android issue on my Lenovo Tab 3 Plus. (factory Rom)
Maybe a Mime file type issue?? Any way I can fix this?

Running Android 6.0.1 on my Lenovo Tab 3 streams FLAC just fine. (factory Rom)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on May 15, 2018, 08:24:02 am
You might try Gizmo.  It has an option to "Cache tracks ahead".
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: DivBy0 on November 21, 2018, 07:19:35 pm
It would be GREAT if there was an option check box in the settings for "Use Native Audio Format when connected to WiFi" ;D
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: buggyglint on November 22, 2018, 10:13:38 am
EOS has this feature, it's also been discontinued and removed from the play store but I still have a copy from when I purchased it.

It's really too bad because EOS is more stable than JRemote.
Title: JRemote stopped working
Post by: koldby on December 11, 2018, 08:50:50 am
Hi I have a problem.
My JRemote for android stopped working.
It cannot connect to the server.
I have tried almost everything. Restarted my android phone, reinstalled JRemote on it. Restarted the server. Always the same, whether I use the access key or IP address:
JRemote says it found the server, but the connection times out.

JRiver works fine..

I have checked the ip address. It is correct. MAC address is correct. I checked my router and both the server and phone is on the same LAN (only one exists)
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: koldby on December 12, 2018, 07:21:58 am
Problem solved!
For some reason , the music PC's network had changed status from "private network" to "public network".
Resetting the status to "private network" solved the problem.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: gryffe on December 17, 2018, 05:46:33 am
Hi, new to the forum.

Purchased JRiver for android app for phone. When I try to play music either on phone or via network player the song flashes up on screen to start playing but then immediately pauses. Must be something simple I guess, any help gratefully received
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on December 17, 2018, 06:33:15 am
Welcome.  Could be a firewall problem on the server.  The wiki has a topic called Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access).
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: gryffe on December 18, 2018, 08:32:18 am
Welcome.  Could be a firewall problem on the server.  The wiki has a topic called [url=http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access][url=http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access]Network Access (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Network_Access)[/url][/url].

Hi, I checked that my firewall was letting everything JRiver related through, but I still get same results. Is there anything you would specifically recommend I should try? Thanks
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on December 18, 2018, 08:49:39 am
What is the default music player on your phone?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: gryffe on December 18, 2018, 09:51:56 am
What is the default music player on your phone?

It doesnt have any particular music player set as default. I have 4 or 5 players on phone, but when I look at default apps a music player is not selected, just things like contacts, browser etc - so doesnt appear to be a fault with default app?

Also not just phone giving problem , my network music player (Cambridge Audio CXV v2)  cannot play songs via the JRiver app either.

Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: designmule on May 10, 2019, 11:37:18 pm
On JRemote for iOS there are letters along the scroll bar for artists, albums, etc. These letters help you to zone in on the item you'd like to listen to. Is it possible to add these letter to the Android version?
Title: Re: JRemote for Android Request to add theaterview remote
Post by: Ekpen on July 24, 2019, 04:02:23 pm
When JRemote was introduced in 2015, I saw a theater view remote, then later it was removed.
I asked that this feature would be nice , so that one can use it to navigate the theater view. Mo4media has a nice interface so is EOS.
I suggest it should be transparent to the user, not buried deep within the menus. It could be next chromecast icon.

George
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on July 25, 2019, 08:27:11 am
+1
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Johnnybrick on July 25, 2019, 02:31:00 pm
Can I download JRemote on my Android Tablet & Chromebook, and use the Remote App to control MC25 installed on my iMac? I have a Master License.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available for testing
Post by: mamita on July 30, 2019, 12:18:38 am
I changed again my laptop and i can't use again my jremote,pls. help me. .
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on July 30, 2019, 06:56:50 am
I changed again my laptop and i can't use again my jremote,pls. help me. .
Is Media Network checked on your laptop?  Use the Access Key you find in the Media Network settings when you run JRemote.
Title: jremote
Post by: mamita on August 07, 2019, 03:57:37 am
I had an early version of jremote which I purchased long time ago,apparently my old laptop broke down.My question is,how can I use my jremote to my new laptop?
Title: Re: jremote
Post by: JimH on August 07, 2019, 06:37:33 am
I had an early version of jremote which I purchased long time ago,apparently my old laptop broke down.My question is,how can I use my jremote to my new laptop?
Just use your Apple account to download and install it again.

Android and iOS are different

I'll move this to a new thread.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JohanJooste on August 19, 2019, 05:47:58 am
Afternoon Jim, please could you advise if JRemote for Android will be supported/updated any longer as I see that last updates was done on 2016.

Current issue I experience is that while in playback when I return to the library and browse any other artist than what I am listening to - the app closes and also forces MC25 to shutdown on my Windows 10 machine prompting me to start JRemote and MC25 again....

I have reinstalled and reconfigured with same results, thinking it could be compatibility issue with the older JRemote version

Please advise/assist

Thank you

JJ
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on August 19, 2019, 07:08:54 am
Yes.  I answered your other similar questioin.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: milsdrewbulch on September 17, 2019, 02:55:06 am
In JRemote for Android the App Follows Server Zones feature is broken.  The app does not follow the server's Zone Switching beyond a single occurrence.  By contrast the iOS JRemote App Follows Server Zones works reliably.  Tested on two Android devices (phone and tablet) and an iPad to the same server in which Zone Switching is set up.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: ZZTop on November 01, 2019, 10:20:32 am
Hello
can anyone help me pls?
I have MC25 and would like to use JRemote. The links here and in google playstore are not working.
Were can I get JRemote?

greetz
US
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on November 01, 2019, 11:47:39 am
There is a new Android version of JRemote coming, so the old one is now unavailable.

It's called JRemote2.  It won't be a free update.  Beta testing shouid begin in a week or two.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: Awesome Donkey on November 01, 2019, 11:59:37 am
Probably should point this out before anyone asks or panics (because they will), if you already purchased JRemote previously you should be able still download the original JRemote (or "JRemote1" or even "JRemote v1" as it could be called) through your app library in the Play Store.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 01, 2019, 01:02:47 pm
ty 4 update
will there be an email sent out when available?
can anyone beta test?
tia
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: thecrow on November 02, 2019, 05:48:27 am
There is a new Android version of JRemote coming, so the old one is now unavailable.

It's called JRemote2.  It won't be a free update.  Beta testing shouid begin in a week or two.

Wow that is a kick in the teeth for all of us that paid for the original and never got a fully working app. 
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on November 02, 2019, 10:40:28 am
Wow that is a kick in the teeth for all of us that paid for the original and never got a fully working app.
Sorry if you feel that way, but it was a working remote.  It may not have been perfect.

We now have about half a man year in the new version and we need to cover the costs.
Title: Re: JRemote for Android -- Now available
Post by: JimH on November 02, 2019, 11:48:37 am
I've locked this thread and started a new one on the next version of JRemote.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,122818.0.html