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jleerigby

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MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« on: July 24, 2003, 08:36:14 am »

Whenever my modem starts dialling or disconnects while MC is playing playback stops instantly and shows 'buffering'.  I have to click stop and then play to recover.  This happens every time without fail.  It doesn't happen if I use MMJB or WMP9 (but who would want to use that load of ***t).

Has anyone experienced this problem or have any ideas on a possible fix.  I'm using a Zoom v92 modem and SB Audigy2 soundcard.  Currently running 9.1.220 but seen it in previous versions.

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Media Center Registered 9.1.220 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1803 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1572 MB, Free - 1194 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1233 (xpsp2.030604-1804) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1008) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1997 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.57 (1008)

Ripping /   Drive E:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive F:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   chord.wav

Burning /  Drive E: LITE-ON  LTR-52246S         Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:52  BurnProof:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2003, 08:40:40 am »

get a high speed connection problem fixed.

It may have something to do with the modem tieing up the CPU for a few seconds.
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2003, 08:48:26 am »

Modems really interrupt the computer for some reason.

Try switching between DirectSound playback and WaveOut in MC options -- one may handle the interrupt better.

Let us know.
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jleerigby

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2003, 08:50:41 am »

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get a high speed connection problem fixed.
Wish I could but no cable company has visited our street and the telephone exchange is too far away to support an ADSL.

Are any other dial up users having this problem.
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jleerigby

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2003, 08:57:11 am »

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Modems really interrupt the computer for some reason.

Try switching between DirectSound playback and WaveOut in MC options -- one may handle the interrupt better.

Let us know.
I was using direct sound.  Just switched to Wave out, closed and restarted MC, and unfortunately getting same problem.
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2003, 09:47:07 am »

I'll bet your modem is internal, no? That is where externals have it all over internals. Interrupt generation for a com port is much more cpu friendly. I switched to a external for exactly that reason (only use it for faxing). Find one and dump the internal...problem solved. Using a USRobotics V.90 56k faxmodem here.

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nila

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2003, 10:13:58 am »

nice modem x - I used to have a US Robotics - had it two years - lightning struct outside our house - BHAM it got blown. Pity - it was one of the first 56.6's and it was very nice :)
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jleerigby

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2003, 10:29:54 am »

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I used to have a US Robotics
Me too
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....lightning struct outside our house - BHAM it got blown
Me too. Spooky!

Thanks Xen.  It's not that big a deal for me though so I'll not bother with the effort and expense of a new modem, especially as Zoom v92 is excellent in all other respects (and it has lightning protection!).
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2003, 10:32:39 am »

My first modem was A Supra 300baud modem. When I found out it was a peace of junk. I bought a 300Baud Hayes modem.

All were external modems from 300baud to 56k.

When I finally was assimilated by MS I tried an internal modem and always had problems.

Then I bought a multi port board that would run 8 external modems (I had 8 external modems) and never used an internal modem again.

As a matter of fact I normally rip them out of the computer.
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2003, 10:37:56 am »

hmmm Speaking of internet connections....

Is there a difference between one network card and another??

I have the one that came with my pc and just wondering if I replace it will my computer go faster on the net?
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2003, 10:57:33 am »

i think that also depends on

1. the modem
2. the service provider

but i don't think it will help
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2003, 11:45:12 am »

Don't like to spoil this but the internal/external discussion doesn't explain this:
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It doesn't happen if I use MMJB or WMP9


To imjustagamer:
If your'e talking of a NIC connected to a cable/dsl modem, I never saw a difference. No matter if it's a cheap Realtek or a exp. 3com. You can 'finetune' the MTU values but only if there are performance probs and you know what your'e doing. We all get the speed that our providers deliver, no matter if we use a onboard Realtek or a 50$ IBM/3com.
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2003, 01:13:48 pm »

The problem is that you are probably using a "WinModem," not a true modem.   Put another way, you are using a software modem and not a hardware modem.   All the "processing" is being done by a Windows-specific driver rather than by the modem, and that's why your CPU usage peaks during connection.  (For my modem, CPU usage remains at 0% - 2% regardless of what my modem is doing.)

I think US Robotics is only manufacture that makes internal non-WinModems, but they're expensive (relatively)--about $80.

Also all external modems, by default, are hardware modems.

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2003, 01:18:46 pm »

Omni

that is so true about WinModems i forgot about them, i had one once.

Bigest pc of junk this side of the Mississippi
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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2003, 01:34:56 pm »

You might try playing with other playback settings in MC.  skip resistant <>responsive, for example.
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jleerigby

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2003, 01:50:52 pm »

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Don't like to spoil this but the internal/external discussion doesn't explain this:
'It doesn't happen if I use MMJB or WMP9 '
It doesn't but I should say that MMJB does stutter for a second or so just as the modem starts dialing though it quickly recovers.  MC doesn't recover.  

JimH - Thanks for your suggestion.  I'm a bit wary of changing any settings that might affect the sound output as MC does do such a good job in this area.  I like to leave everything as standard as possible and use direct sound.  At the end of the day I can cope with this issue - I just thought I'd ask the question in case there was some obvious set up problem.

On the subject of software and hardware modems - yes I seem to remember my old US Robotics costing at lot more than most but like I said, it got fried.  This supposedly crappy software modem is still working fine thanks to the built in surge protection.

Thanks for your comments guys I've learned a lot about modems.  If only BT would pull thier finger out and get an ADSL cable out here I wouldn't need one!

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zevele10

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2003, 03:59:41 pm »

It is not only a modem problem.
The kind of connection or the way your ISP deal with it can be the cause.

I had this problem with PPOe-ADSL [ ADSL with log-in ]
MMJB just stopped to play sometimes when i tested it.
The same concerning MJ8 at this time.
Internal or external USB modem the same [ i had quitte a few USB modem]

The problem was not only when connecting but ,most of the time, when a new download stated in the download manager.

Was no way to set it to not mess around.

Since few months i have cable connection with an internal modem and everything works nice.

I'am not sure if one day i would go back to PPOe ADSL , phone 56 kps connection give you much less trouble than this PPOe ADSL
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a2hoo

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2003, 04:29:36 pm »

Do dial up modems even exist?  I thought they went the way of the record player :)
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zevele10

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2003, 04:42:15 pm »

record player do exist.
You can find them allmost everywhere.
And ,of cause ,LP still exist , including a VERY large part of the new albums out .

In case you wonder ,Lp is a strange thing who make you cd sound like mp3 Xing 128 against the LP
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jleerigby

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Re: MC Doesn't like my dial up modem?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2003, 01:55:58 pm »

Solved (albeit accidentally).  Jim wasn't too far off the mark:
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You might try playing with other playback settings in MC.  skip resistant <>responsive, for example.

Following my recent investigations into the crossfade problem (see .233 beta thread) disabling DSP output format and/or clip protection has fixed the issue.  Now I can dial up and, other than a little stutter, carry on listening.
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