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Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:39:52 am »

@Hendrik:

Can we have the Windows Media codecs enabled for decoding via LAV by default with Red October at all?
I'm not certain if there's a quality issue or something stopping this happening by default, or whether this is just an oversight, and you're the best person to comment here!

LAV seeks much faster with videos stored on a network drive (IIRC WMV8, I'd have to check this mind), and I've just had to implement a hacky special-case manual video mode / install of LAV to get this to work here :)

It's not a major deal, as I've only got a hundred or so of these files, but it's annoying when I come across one on a default install!

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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2017, 10:08:34 pm »

I can't get WMV to seek at all. All command like FF/REW/Skip are just completely not working. Love to know how you got it to work?
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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 04:15:05 am »

I normally seek in WMV files using the time bar in standard view.

Using the Microsoft decoder, this works OK-ish, but seek times are slow (2s) for local files and 10s plus for network files, which is completely unacceptable.
If you leave it for long enough, it'll probably actually unstick itself; I think the Microsoft decder isn't really designed for seeking in 3rd party applications.....

My current workaround is as follows:
Download and install the standalone version of LAV filters.
Set Red October to use the custom DirectShow video method, & restrict this to WMV files only.
In the LAV filters settings, enable the WMV codecs.

This has much faster seeking than the Microsoft video decoder, hence asking whether this could be enabled in a default Red October config :)
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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 08:09:22 am »

Can you be a little more specific. I know where to set Custom Video Mode and how to restrict to WMV. But what exactly is "DirectShow video method"? I can't find that. Is it under Video Decoder or? 
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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 08:32:34 am »

Can you be a little more specific. I know where to set Custom Video Mode and how to restrict to WMV. But what exactly is "DirectShow video method"? I can't find that. Is it under Video Decoder or?

In the custom video mode dialog box.
Add a new rule:
Type- Video Decoder
Filter- This supplies a list of all installed DirectShow filters on your system. Select LAV Video Decoder from here. (This is different to the inbuilt LAV)

Should work from there on, but you must have installed the DirectShow LAV, as opposed to trying to use the inbuilt one.
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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2017, 08:42:14 am »

Well dang it. That setup still doesn't let me seek or jump etc. I do have LAV v69 separately installed and the icon shows in the taskbar during playback, so I know it is using LAV.
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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2017, 10:14:04 am »

Something else is broken at your end then :(
This gives me 1-2s seek times in a 1.5gb video, which is perfectly acceptable.

Slow NAS?
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Re: Red October- Please Enable WMV8 / WMV9 etc.
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2017, 10:31:28 am »

No NAS. Local hard disk on Server PC. It's not slow, it just completely does not work at all. Select a spot in the timeline with mouse or jump or ff/rew and the video just continues to play then the timeline indicator just jumps back to the beginning.
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