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aliciaviola

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Special characters
« on: March 10, 2020, 07:22:26 am »

Once again, because the problem still has not be solved, the urgent prayer to solve the "special character problem".
Any word, containing a special character (Ä, ö, ü, é, è, î....) copied from a MAC program (with the exception of Google Crome!) appears broken when pasted into a MC tag field.
In the example you can see in the appended pictures I wrote the tags in Metadatics and then imported them in MC. As you can see some of the tag fields show the name "Mäkelä" in the correct way, some not.

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bob

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Re: Special characters
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2020, 11:38:20 am »

I just tried this from Safari and Notes without any trouble.

Pasted this into a conductor field
Vänskä

Looks fine.
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Re: Special characters
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2020, 03:01:39 pm »

I just tried this from Safari and Notes without any trouble.

Pasted this into a conductor field
Vänskä

Looks fine.
I see the same, however, in the case of my spaces and hyphens that I have investigate a bit more, while they copy and paste fine and look the same, they are still different when you try to "find" them with an expression. In other words, if I copy and paste a hyphen from some source it behaves differently in a find command executed in MC versus when I type it on the keyboard; the typed hyphen/space is found while the pasted hyphen/space is not. Have you tried to compare the typed version of Västä or, say, Dvořak, with the copy/pasted version in a find/replace scenario? I'm just just curious.
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Re: Special characters
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2020, 03:14:27 pm »

I see the same, however, in the case of my spaces and hyphens that I have investigate a bit more, while they copy and paste fine and look the same, they are still different when you try to "find" them with an expression. In other words, if I copy and paste a hyphen from some source it behaves differently in a find command executed in MC versus when I type it on the keyboard; the typed hyphen/space is found while the pasted hyphen/space is not. Have you tried to compare the typed version of Västä or, say, Dvořak, with the copy/pasted version in a find/replace scenario? I'm just just curious.
Best regards,
Hans
The hypen for example probably needs to be a UTF-8 character when it's in a tag, it probably isn't always when it's being copied from a web or other resource.
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Re: Special characters
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2020, 01:00:22 am »

Is this related to the same problem whereby handheld devices do a full resync and re-load of all files if the file names contain certain characters (dashes might be the problem in my case)?  So frustrating.
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HaWi

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Re: Special characters
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2020, 11:34:16 am »

The hypen for example probably needs to be a UTF-8 character when it's in a tag, it probably isn't always when it's being copied from a web or other resource.
That could definitely be the issue. I find it a bit sad that in the 21st century such differences still exist. I don't know much about character encoding but kind of assumed we have a universal standard by now. Is there a way to find out, in MacOS, whether a certain character is UTF-8 or not? Or is there a way to automatically force a conversion when it isn't UTF-8?
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Hans
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Re: Special characters
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2020, 12:41:17 pm »

That could definitely be the issue. I find it a bit sad that in the 21st century such differences still exist. I don't know much about character encoding but kind of assumed we have a universal standard by now. Is there a way to find out, in MacOS, whether a certain character is UTF-8 or not? Or is there a way to automatically force a conversion when it isn't UTF-8?
cheers,
Hans
Is there any consistency in the types of files that the issue shows up in?
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Re: Special characters
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2020, 07:07:14 pm »

I am not sure but it might have been files I ripped from CDs
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Re: Special characters
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 10:45:52 am »

It doesn't happen if there is already the identical name - as in the conductor's or artist/artist-album - but with all new copy and paste things (save from Google Chrome).
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