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roognation

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Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« on: March 07, 2004, 08:04:27 pm »

Can't find what makes a file able or not able to store image files inside.  I have a number of files that are stubborn, and will not store the images internally.  Most files accept the image fine...  Is there some magic trick to getting the files to accept the images?

MC 9.0.180

Much thanks!

Mike
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2004, 08:25:17 pm »

and the file type would be?

MP3 should work others may not, not all file types use ID3v2 tags so they may not include images.
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2004, 08:33:47 pm »

sorry about that.

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mp3 files

I have checked two files out, one has image embedded and the other won't "take."  They both have ID3v2 and v1 tags per MC (and confirmed with Winamp).  I also checked the rights for each file, and to my eyes, they seem identical (in Windows, no one is too sure about anything).

I am very curious about what makes the file "if possible" or not as MC talks about.

Thanks for your help!

Mike
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2004, 08:43:40 pm »

if it is MP3 it should work

maybe the picture format (Jpg \ GIF) work, maybe other formats may not.

you also need to turn on this option on in media center if you have not.

if the file is write protected it will not work.
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2004, 09:49:23 pm »

I copied an image file off the web to the clipboard.  Then I selected about 15 files in MC and right clicked to paste image from clipboard.  Three of the MP3 files (in one directory) worked fine and "took" the image, and the remaining 12 MP3 files did not: they defaulted to the c:\...\Data\Cover Art\... instead of the Inside File.  That is what really has me confused, during one operation, some files worked and some didn't!

I have checked in both Explorer and WinSCP that these files are not read-only.  That was my first guess.  I was also able to change dates/genres/etc on these files.  So I am fairly sure it's not a file rights issue, but I am _no_ expert :)

Thanks for helping chase this annoyance down!

One thing is cool: when MMJB plays the internal-image MP3 files, the images show up no problem.  Don't worry, I only use MMJB to test out compatibility.

UPDATE: I just noticed a major difference between the files!  And the problem must be in the naming convention of the image files within the MP3 Files.  I was dealing with 3 files from Jimi Hendrix/"Are You Experienced" (1997 Remastered Version) and 12 files from Jimi Hendrix/"Are You Experienced?"  Note the lack of the "?" on the end of the first three files.  This must cause major wildcard confusion inside MS/Windows.  After I removed the "?" and removed the old cover art (pointing to another file) I was able to paste the original image file in there: and it "took!"

So, I guess you have to watch it when non-alpha characters are at the end of an artist/album name!  It would be a luxury feature, but maybe MC could trap these characters before they cause trouble internally.  I would prefer to keep the titles (e.g. "Are You Experienced?") as they appear on the album.  If not, maybe a note in the Cover Art help section would be in order?

I will keep testing and post if there are any other issues with the cover art.

Much praise for the MC team!

Thanks!
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2004, 09:54:46 pm »

Are some of the files read only?  It happens when you copy files from a CD to your hard drive.
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2004, 02:18:59 am »

See my previous post.
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2004, 07:28:47 am »

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So, I guess you have to watch it when non-alpha characters are at the end of an artist/album name!  It would be a luxury feature, but maybe MC could trap these characters before they cause trouble internally.

The forbidden non-alpha characters in filenames are as follows :

/ \ : * ? " < > |

to check...create a new text file in explorer ( right click (in explorer)->New->Text Document)and name it /.txt  

...explorer will pop up an error window showing the above.

i'm curious how windows even let you create/save image files with "?" in the filename.
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Re:Cover Art - MP3 Music Files - Possible Or Not?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2004, 04:36:31 pm »

In order to store images within the MP3 files I think the files must have V2 tags.
Do your problem files have V2 tags ?
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