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GRAYDOG

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o/t Browsers
« on: March 15, 2004, 08:15:26 pm »
I'am trying to pick between FireFox or Avant  anybody have an opinion about the two?
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2004, 08:45:28 pm »
I know this wasn't one of your options... But have you tried MyIE2?

It's In My Opinion the best out there,
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2004, 08:52:51 pm »
Depends on the reason you're looking for an alternative to plain IE.

Basically, Avant is nothing more than a "frontend" for the IE rendering engine and therefore includes all of the benefits of using IE as well as the risks of using IE.

Firefox uses the Gecko rendering engine who's main feature, I guess, is compliance with W3C standards.

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/

Also, Gecko is generally thought to be somewhat more secure than IE as it doesn't support potentially insecure technology like activex. The drawback is that there are websites that will not work correctly (or at all) because they use proprietary MS code that is not part of the standard. Also, IE tends to be more forgiving of errors in web page code.

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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2004, 09:04:30 pm »
I did try Myie2 and it was ok. I think I will give it another try.   I think I just want to get away from ie so Avant is not a good choice. any thoughts on Opera?
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2004, 09:12:52 pm »
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2004, 10:24:49 pm »
I think I need to work with it a little more but so far  I like it best  .
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2004, 11:17:59 am »
LOVE OPERA ;D

Been using v 7 since it first came out about a year ago.

BUT... See below...

Have tried MyIE2... OK I guess but not my cup of tea, tried Mozella, NetScape, & 3 or 4 other so-called great browsers.

Let me say one thing here & now...
They ALL have problems of one kind or another :(

These problems can be broken down into three basic categories...

1:  A lot of web sites are so IE dependent that many sites have problems with any browser except a true IE based browser.  Opera has a big problem with site compatibility as does Mozella, NetScape & all other non IE based engines.  Many sites will appear to work correctly until you try to buy something or use the sites e-mail to ask a question.  What happens is you will get part way through the purchase or e-mail process only to have it hang on one screen.  Bring up IE & it will work flawlessly. Also, some sites do not render correctly with non IE based browsers.  As time goes on this is becoming more & more of a problem as almost everyone is now building sites for IE only as it controls apx 95% of the market..

2: Most plug-ins do not work correctly, if at all, with IE based browsers such as MyIE2.  Yes, I know they claim plug-in compatibility but when you look at their list of approved plug-ins it is very small & never seems to include the ones I want to run.  All plug-ins work with IE as that is the browser they are all made for.  Using the IE engine in an IE based browser does not mean plug-in compatibility. MyIE2 & other IE based browsers change the interface so much that most plug-ins won't even load let alone work.

3: You really need TWO browsers... your favorite browser such as Opera, & IE for those bothersome sites that all non IE browsers have problems with.

Yes, I love Opera for it's very slick, polished & nicely tabbed interface, for it's great feature set, for it's extremely fast speed.  But, I still use IE on all sites that require my various plug-ins & for those sites that I know Opera has problems with.

If only Opera was IE based then we would finally have a really great all-in one browser.  But even then it most likely would have problems with IE plug-ins.
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2004, 08:33:53 pm »
I've been using Opera for more than four years. http://www.opera.com/
If you really must use IE, then at least use NetCaptor, the original tabbed browser.  http://www.netcaptor.com/
I tried Firebox but wasn't impressed.  :-\
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2004, 08:42:59 pm »
Do any of the IE-based browsers allow you to completely disable activex and not receive annoying popup messages telling you that you have done so?
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2004, 08:43:04 pm »
Quote from: DocLotus on March 16, 2004, 11:17:59 am

Yes, I love Opera for it's very slick, polished & nicely tabbed interface, for it's great feature set, for it's extremely fast speed.  But, I still use IE on all sites that require my various plug-ins & for those sites that I know Opera has problems with.

I love opera too. I can tell you that I only use IF for problematic sites a mere .1% of the time... in fact I cannot remember the last time I fired IE. Maybe I'm lucky. I also think (and have done so in the past) that the webmasters of the sites that break non-IE browsers should know about that. Sometimes they even fix them, if you show them that they don't pass W3C validation. It happened with my old bank (credit union). Very nice. Always write to the webmaster!
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2004, 10:22:00 pm »
I've been using Mozilla Firefox/Phoenix for over a year plus and I have to say that its one of the best browser around. And with its extension, I can do a lot more with it than with IE.

If you are worry about problem loading some page with Firefox, you can get the extention that add the capabilities for you  to open the current page you are viewing with IE by just right clicking on the page and selecting View With IE.

Its really fast and if you are really into it, you can look for optimized build for your system which is really really fast when it comes to loading pages. Of course, since it is still in its development stage, expect some bugs and quirks with some of the pages you are viewing sometimes.

All in all, Firefox is really one of the best browser around.
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2004, 07:08:48 am »
TBH I haven't found a single page that has refused to work with Firefox bar csmaps.jolt.co.uk

I have used Opera in the past, but went back to IE due to site compatibility issues, couldn't home bank or nothing.

I tried Firefox & it's adblock & image control plugins are the business, not to mention the search field...

FreeCDDB, Google, Teoma, Discogs and a hell of a lot more searches are available in 2 clicks from ANY page in your browser...

You can keep yer IE & it's atrocious page load/render times (which do matter to me as I'm on ISDN so I need the pages as fast as they can display).

But to be fair, my FTP space will only work with IE, & that's the only reason I still have it on my system.

So ner!  ;)
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2004, 06:05:23 am »
Between Mozilla or Firefox wich one do you like best?
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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2004, 02:39:15 pm »
Opera here.
Since it was with a 30 days trial version.

Get used to it.
Cannot say the same about the mail client by the way.

MyIE , DOES NOT work well with IE plugings.

So , or Idiot Eternal ,or Opera.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2004, 02:48:33 pm »
Quote from: salsbst1 on March 16, 2004, 08:42:59 pm
Do any of the IE-based browsers allow you to completely disable activex and not receive annoying popup messages telling you that you have done so?

Yes. Look for the new version of MyIE2. IMHO it's just the best.

Quote from: zevele on March 18, 2004, 02:39:15 pm
...MyIE , DOES NOT work well with IE plugings...

They are working on it. Try today's release at
http://www.myie2.com/html_en/update.htm

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Re:o/t Browsers
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2004, 04:27:34 pm »
I'am trying MyIE2 again along with Firefox to see wich one works for Me.
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