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[Bengi010]

I recently updated to MC 23 and everything seems painfully slow.  Previous versions have always felt very quick and responsive but now I can count to 3 while it loads a new screen.  I'm running a pretty capable computer so I don't think my hardware is slowing it down.  I ran the benchmark which I will post below but to be honest I don't really know how to read it.  I know it's not much to go on but any ideas?  Should I try a reinstall?


=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 5.021 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 3.441 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 3.268 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 1.861 seconds
Score: 1398

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.239 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.321 seconds
    Direct copying... 14.023 seconds
    Small renders... 1.128 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 13.427 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 17.089 seconds
Score: 476

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.329 seconds
    Populate database... 1.047 seconds
    Save database... 0.163 seconds
    Reload database... 0.467 seconds
    Search database... 1.245 seconds
    Sort database... 1.194 seconds
    Group database... 1.633 seconds
Score: 3537

[JimH]

On initial install, MC will analyze files and create thumbnails.  It will speed up when done.

[RoderickGI]

The total score is missing from your post. See my old workstation PC score below. Bengi010's image score looks a bit low doesn't it Jim? Specifically, the "Direct copying" looks bad. That could be because thumbnails were being created while the benchmark ran, I guess.

My workstation:
=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 4.199 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 2.241 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 1.323 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 0.860 seconds
Score: 2204

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.330 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.739 seconds
    Direct copying... 0.810 seconds
    Small renders... 1.639 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 1.256 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 0.892 seconds
Score: 3883

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.357 seconds
    Populate database... 1.294 seconds
    Save database... 0.189 seconds
    Reload database... 0.096 seconds
    Search database... 1.906 seconds
    Sort database... 1.717 seconds
    Group database... 1.071 seconds
Score: 3243

JRMark (version 23.0.92 x64): 3110

[kensn]

Anything else change on the machine or was this purely a MC upgrade?

[DocLotus]

I've noticed something similar... Clicking on Television from the left tree menu seems to be much slower than before. It used to load fairly quick but now I often have to wait a couple of seconds before anything happens.
 

[Bengi010]

I ran benchmark again this morning.  I do not believe thumbnails are still being created, I installed a few weeks ago and I am familiar with the initial lag as thumbnails load and rebuild, this is not that. Physically nothing has changed on the computer since before the update to 23.  It's an I5-6600k processor with 16 GB of ram.  I do wonder if it has something to do with where thumbnails are being stored.  All of my media files are on hard drives in an external enclosure.  However that has always been the case and never caused problems before.  Should I try deleting and rebuilding the thumbnail folder?  I see that compared to RoderickGI my Image Benchmarks are insanely slow. 

=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 4.299 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 2.871 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 2.592 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 2.435 seconds
Score: 1558

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.232 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.243 seconds
    Direct copying... 13.273 seconds
    Small renders... 0.995 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 12.314 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 17.875 seconds
Score: 490

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.618 seconds
    Populate database... 0.871 seconds
    Save database... 0.132 seconds
    Reload database... 0.386 seconds
    Search database... 1.067 seconds
    Sort database... 1.042 seconds
    Group database... 1.242 seconds
Score: 4013

JRMark (version 23.0.91 x64): 2020

[JimH]

Antivirus?

How are the drives connected?

[Bengi010]

the drives are in a 4 bay enclosure connected by a USB cable.  The enclosure also offers an eSATA connection if you think it would make a difference.  Antivirus is Bitdefender, has been the same for a few years now.  However I just checked on my cover art folder at that is located with the program on a local hdd

[RoderickGI]

eSATA would be much better than USB 2, USB 3.0, but not better than USB 3.1 Gen 2. So it depends on the standard the enclosure uses. But if you are only accessing one drive in the enclosure at a time, the USB 2 at 480 Mbps or about 60 MB/s should be okay. So playback or copying a set of files to one drive at a time wouldn't benefit much from a faster connection.

Your graphics benchmark is insanely low. Are you on Windows 10? There have been several Windows 10 updates that have broken things, and one recent one forced me to update graphics drivers, because of some introduced incompatibility. So I would be upgrading graphics drivers rather than reinstalling MC or anything similar.

Also if you have upgraded to the lastest MC23 and are using Red October High Quality, then you are now using a new version of madVR. If you have customised any settings for madVR previously then they may be causing some problems. Note your customisations, but then reset madVR to the defaults. See if that improves things.

[JimH]

Make sure the drives are plugged into a USB 3 port. 

esata would be a better choice.

If it is, then uninstall Bitdefender.  It is a repeat offender.

[Bengi010]

I updated video drivers and after a reboot MC is running normally.  New scores posted below are much much better.  I don't know if it was the drivers, which weren't more than a few weeks out of date or the reboot that helped.  My inclination is that it was rebooting the computer and I worry that it will slow down again, but we will see.  Thanks for your help and Happy New Year.

=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 4.398 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 3.026 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 2.517 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 1.506 seconds
Score: 1660

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.220 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.242 seconds
    Direct copying... 0.355 seconds
    Small renders... 1.036 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 0.746 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 0.433 seconds
Score: 7254

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.148 seconds
    Populate database... 0.992 seconds
    Save database... 0.132 seconds
    Reload database... 0.051 seconds
    Search database... 1.098 seconds
    Sort database... 1.090 seconds
    Group database... 0.842 seconds
Score: 4938

JRMark (version 23.0.91 x64): 4617