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[benh]

I am in the UK and therefore have no $ in  my bank. I want to purchase Media Centre bu cannot, as you have to purchase in $. What should I do? ?

[zevele10]

If you have an international credit card , you buy MC from the webb in $$$ ,and your bank will charge you in english pounds

[brainsoup]

that definately works... I did it and everything was fluffy

[zevele10]

All you buy from the weeb in another curency that the one from  your country is stated in a frame at the top of your credit card statement  you get every month

[KingSparta]

Most sites on the internet use US$

However there should be an easier way for users to buy MC9

Now JimH hinted in the forum that MC10 or what ever comes down the road that it will support languages other than English.

If this is true then I think it would be a good idea that they also charge in that countries Currency. (No Ducks, Chickens, Goats etc...)

Just My 2 Paso's

[zevele10]

If you use an international credit card , the money you pay ,$ - pesos- euros - goats - kosher chickens-is of not importance.
You are debited of the equivalent in your local curency.
I buy in $ ,in euros , in English Pounds but it is shekells they take from me in the bank

[KingSparta]

>> If you use an international credit card
Most people don't have one

I also am not a man of the world i just happen to live in the USA so t does not normaly bother me.

Many people in the past have sugested paypal and I used pay pal a few times and think it is a good idea for the future\now.

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I have been writing a Auto MailBot

KingSpartaSoft@nc.rr.com Send: /Help In the Subject Line If You Wiish To Test It. It Checkes Mail Every 5 Mins.

But When A User Buys From PayPal An E-mail Is Sent To The Programer\Company

The Company Could Use A MailBot To Generate An E-Mail With The Users Key And Send It To Them In E-Mail

[sraymond]

>> If you use an international credit card
Most people don't have one

And, what, exactly, is an "international" credit card?  I have a good 'ol standard bank issue Visa and Mastercard (USAA and Bank of America) that both work just fine throughout the world.  Well, at least Europe and Asia.  I've never tried Africa!

Credit cards are nice even if you have access to cash because they offer a better exchange rate than banks, or so I'm told.

Scott-

Sc0tt-

[AndyCircuit]

I used a Mastercard without trouble, but this is not standard  here in Germany. Most of us use a debit card which is not an international credit card. Only if we upgrade, but why.(20 ¤ for every year and seldom a reason to use ? Works well in Europe without upgrade ) I think many people have to ask friends with a credit card to pay for their MC9 over here.
And the guys from china mainland ?

Of course it's much cheaper for JRiver to charge only credit cards, but to give some 'limited' fans a change they might offer another way, maybe with an extra fee to cover extra costs

Only an idea

Andy

[KingSparta]

>> Of course it's much cheaper for JRiver to
>> charge only credit cards
well if it was some other middle man like paypal the price would need to be adjusted for sure.

on the other hand my software is cheep i only ask for people to send me beer.

[Deivit]

I think JRiver should have to consider Paypal... It's a widespread method of payment over the internet and, as far as I know, it's perfectly secure.

Don't know whether the expenses involved for the seller are higher than credit card ones, though... and perhaps this is the reason why JRiver does not support Paypal yet.

[zevele10]

In France and here ,if you have a small salary ,you will get only a credit card you can use inside the country.
To buy things ,get money out of the automatic till ect

You need to have an average salery to get an international one.

Can you use PayPal to pay  if you do not have an international credit card ?

I really like this service .

Now ,if JRiver starts to use  it or any other mainstream kind of paiements ,the price has to be the same.
Not to be mange merde like in England.

If they make  $1 less profit , it would be balanced by selling more.
Not long ago ,i did not buy a program because they wanted few $ more if using PayPal

[AndyCircuit]

King
I had also in mind the (nessesary) trend to 'slimline' the work inside a company. Another way of payment is another account is another folder is another hour(s) to take care about and so on. Was a little unpreceise.

Ok, I use your program and Ok, I.O.U. some beer.
Love special one ? Mild, strong, black...?
Problem are the extrem high costs of shipping, have to ask the secretary of finance (= spouse) first  

There's a tiny chance for me to travel to ca this fall again. Maybe I ask the pilot for a little detour to throw it down right trough you roof. ( Caution, might be really cool and rock solid ) Saves money, right?

Andy

[KingSparta]

>> Can you use PayPal to pay  if you do not
>> have an international credit card ?
Yes you can send paypal a check and when it clears the bank they will bank your money and you can buy anything that they have signed up.

if i am not mistaken E-bay now owns Paypal

[KingSparta]

>> I had also in mind the (nessesary) trend to
>> 'slimline' the work inside a company.
well i am sure there are many reasons other payment options are not used.

I do remember JimH said maybe in the future there may be other ways for users to buy.

[Jaguu]

I feel JRiver should sell MC9 in a box!

It would look awesome with a huge MC9 logo on it. Everybody would  just grasp for the box! I think J River should consider this, if they really want to become a major player. They should try it in the US first and once there are localized language versions expand abroad!

[Chris Shaw]

In the UK, Delta is one of the most common debit cards. They are either part of Visa or have an agreement with them, so that a Delta debit card, which anyone over 18 can have, works anywhere that accepts Visa, which is most places. I bought MJ8 and many other international items with my UK debit card with no problems.

Posted by: KingSparta
Most sites on the internet use US$

This simply isn't true. Most American sites use US$. Most European website use Euros or Pounds Sterling

[lee269]

benh:

zevele and others are right - you should be able to use your credit card and the cost in $ will be converted to pounds sterling automatically, and show on your statement as such.

I bought MC and many other things on the internet this way and Im in the UK - no problems at all. I just have a standard credit card (Mastercard) from a high street bank. Dunno what an 'international' credit card is - not a term Ive heard here at home. Dont think it applies in the UK.

[KingSparta]

>> This simply isn't true. Most American sites use
>> US$. Most European website use Euros or
>> Pounds Sterling

The Euro will fail, it was a dumb idea.

[zevele10]

Euro is here to stay as the main money along $ , if not before $

[sraymond]

The Euro will fail, it was a dumb idea.

Certainly off topic...  but why do you think it was a dumb idea?

I can't imagine the euro going away any time soon...

Scott-

[KingSparta]

>> Certainly off topic...  but why do you think it
>> was a dumb idea?
money is based on many things and one of them is resorces.

what would happen if a country or two within the Euro world economy really sucks and they also may decide to attack another with military force?

I can't see why any country would give up control over ther own money.

[lee269]

Some think Mr Blair would like to merge the £ with the $...

Heres some interesting dollar facts:

Maryland's dollar paper money was payable in bills of exchange in London at the rate of 4 shillings 6 pence sterling for one dollar. The Maryland paper money of 1767 had denominations of $1/9th (6 pence sterling), $1/6th (9 pence sterling), $2/9ths (1 shilling sterling), $1/3rd (1 shilling 6 pence sterling), $1/2 (2 shillings 3 pence sterling), $2/3rds (3 shillings sterling) and $1, $2, $4, and $8 on the same basis. The sterling conversions to the dollar denominations were clearly printed on the paper money to aid in calculations, but there was no reference whatsoever to Maryland's money of account shillings or pence.

By the end of the 17th century, 6 shillings in Maryland money of account was equal in value to 4 shillings 6 pence in sterling, both of which amounts were equal to one Spanish dollar. This was a ratio of 4 Maryland units for 3 sterling units of the same name. Some people in Maryland and in other colonies were willing to pay more than 6 shillings in money of account for a Spanish dollar or its equivalent value in order to obtain specie coin, bullion or foreign exchange. To prevent this form of inflation, Queen Anne, in 1704, issued a Proclamation which was formalized in 1707 by an Act of Parliament making it illegal to pay more than 6 shillings in money of account for the Spanish dollar or for coins of equivalent silver weight and fineness. The law failed to put a maximum on payment for gold coin or for gold or silver bullion and thus was easily subverted. This Proclamation law was applicable to Maryland and thus to Maryland's money of account as well as to the New England colonies and the Southern colonies. Because of currency stability in New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware, this control was not applied to those central colonies. The Proclamation law remained in force in Maryland up to the American Revolution and Maryland's money of account was often called Proclamation money, as was the money of account of several other colonies.

Phew! Arent you glad you dont have to change your money every time you cross the state line?

In the UK the euro is a hot topic at the moment, as our government is shortly going to tell us whether it thinks we should think about joining. Unfortunately the level of public debate doesnt seem to get much further than hysterical tabloid newspaper headlines. Some people in the EU are thinking about even closer integration at the moment . We may yet see a United States of Europe in the future.

Of course I never discuss politics or religion on this forum

[KingSparta]

>> We may yet see a United States of Europe
>> in the future.
when this happens then the euro would work.

I am voting for Mr Potato on the new US $20

[Cmagic]

Just my

And, what, exactly, is an "international" credit card?

I think any credit card with a VISA or MASTERCARD logo on it can be used in many countries and as such can be called an "international" one.

My humble opinion on the euro subject is that it makes life a lot easier for a guy like me who travels a lot inside europe (NL, D, E, I, F, B..) even easier in the UK !
It's nice to always have the right coins or notes to get a good cold beer in Amsterdam, Barcelona, Milano, Munchen or Paris

C.

[zevele10]

what would happen if a country or two within the Euro world economy really sucks and they also may decide to attack another with military force?


You can ask the same about if  Texas attacks Minessota one day , or California electricity being bankrup.

[Cmagic]

To get realistic, neither dollar, euros, zloty or roublignole will be here to stay.
Our ancestors used sea-shells or goats as money, maybe our grand-grand-grand children will use nanotubes, quantum dots or sea-shell again.

Please never forget that we are all lying in the /tmp folder....

[lee269]

My humble opinion on the euro subject is that it makes life a lot easier

Yeah.

Of course we in the UK are now more likely to declare war on the EU than join after we got 0 points in the Eurovision Song Contest. Its a national humiliation

My last word. Euro coins have a 'national' side for each country where countries can put a national symbol or something (eg the Brandenburg Gate for some German coins). Thus you can tell where a coin came from. A German guy was telling me that he thought that as the coins get intermingled throughout Europe it would symbolise the peaceful mixing of people throughout the EU. I liked that metaphor.

[KingSparta]

>> You can ask the same about if  Texas attacks
>> Minessota one day
Maybe they should

They never did like the north

[sraymond]

I can't see why any country would give up control over ther own money.

There are *MANY* benefits to the Euro...  And we have to believe the participating nations understand the relative risk/reward involved.

We'd have to leave independent control of a nation's currency for the economists to argue.

And interesting article on unified currency can be found at http://www.globalfindata.com/articles/euro.htm.  It's a little dated, but the history is interesting.

Scott-