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sraymond

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Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« on: April 26, 2003, 09:56:57 am »

I don't see an MCC_COMMAND from bspachman's Girder .gml for the "menu" key that toggles the Hairstyle/Full-Screen.  Sure, there's the specific MCC_SET_MODE, but this action is much slower (on the order of a second or two) than just toggling with the menu key (which is almost instantaneous).

Now that I'm not using the grider plugin for MC, I can't send a simple keyboard event to MC when in full-screen or Hairstyle.

Does anyone have the WParam and Lparam for sending the menu key to MC using SendMessage?

Thanks!

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bspachman

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2003, 08:38:27 pm »

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I don't see an MCC_COMMAND from bspachman's Girder .gml for the "menu" key that toggles the Hairstyle/Full-Screen.  Sure, there's the specific MCC_SET_MODE, but this action is much slower (on the order of a second or two) than just toggling with the menu key (which is almost instantaneous).

I don't know what the "menu" key is... Since I'm a Macintosh person, can you explain it? There is a MCC_FULLSCREEN command that toggles between the various full-screen modes. (Check the "View" section.)

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Now that I'm not using the grider plugin for MC, I can't send a simple keyboard event to MC when in full-screen or Hairstyle.

Do you mean "Full-Screen/Mega-Me" or "Full-Screen/Visualizations"? What kind of keyboard event? Something that works with the old Girder Plugin that doesn't have an MCC equivalent? I have not tested all the MCC commands in all the different view modes (Mini, Mega, Viz, Hair), so there may be some commands that don't work in a given mode...

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Brad
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sraymond

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2003, 10:38:42 pm »

Brad,

I had never used the "menu" key until MC...  it's between the right "window" and "control" key on my keyboard.

Pressing the "menu" key simply toggles the Hairstyle on and off (i.e. between simple full-screen and Hairstyle").  What makes it better than the MCC_SET_MODE command is that it's much faster in making the change.

Unfortunately, I had to reinstall MC a few weeks back and the girder plugin for MC no longer works.  But when it was working, sending the "menu" key (which is available through girder's Keyboard "special key") worked just fine.  But it doesn't seem to work by targetting the MC application - my guess is that it has something to do with full-screen.

I'm still unsure why using SendMessage is better than the girder plugin for MC...  not that it's any worse (excepting this most recent problem)....  but I can honestly say that I *NEVER* had a single problem with the girder plugin (when it was working, of course).

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sraymond

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2003, 03:02:23 pm »

JRiver:  Can this be added to the MCC_COMMANDs?  Is there any plan to revive the Girder plugin (which no longer installs for me)?

Question:  Is there any MCC_COMMAND that continues a fast-forward until play is pressed?  I'd like to program the remote so that a single press of the "ff" key starts a fast-forward and a hold of the "ff" key sends a "next" to MC.  Unfortunately, the Remote Wonder has only a ff key (no next track key).  Maybe I can do this with some sort of girder repeat, but it would be nice if there was an MCC_COMMAND that did this.

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sraymond

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2003, 06:03:57 pm »

While I'm at it, how about an MCC_COMMAND for the ctrl-shift-F to toggle display formats?

Or...  the Girder plugin - which fixes anything as it worked flawlessly when sending keyboard commands to the plugin, regardless of the MC mode.

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2003, 07:38:32 pm »

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While I'm at it, how about an MCC_COMMAND for the ctrl-shift-F to toggle display formats?

Ctrl-Shift-F doesn't do anything for me in MC. Not in MegaMe, Visualizations, or Hairstyle.... Are you talking about the Details/Thumbnails/Thumbnail (Group)/etc. options? If so, check out MCC_SET_LIST_STYLE with the following parameters... -1 (Toggle), 0 (Auto), 1 (Details), 2 (Thumbnails), 3 (Thumbnails, album grouping)

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Or...  the Girder plugin - which fixes anything as it worked flawlessly when sending keyboard commands to the plugin, regardless of the MC mode.

You can still send keyboard commands to MC. I'm confused as to why you think you can't.... There are pretty good directions on the Girder site about how to send keyboard commands to various applications.

As for FF--the MCC commands only open up existing functionality in the program, since FF only jumps ahead 5sec. at a time in the regular interface, there isn't an MCC command to make it continually FF (although I've seen that wish requested before...).

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sraymond

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2003, 10:44:41 pm »

Brad,

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Ctrl-Shift-F doesn't do anything for me in MC. Not in MegaMe, Visualizations, or Hairstyle....


Ctrl-Shift-F toggles between the various TV formats installed on your system (i.e. the NTSC, PAL, and SECAM variations).  This is only important to us "worldly" guys who have VHS (and DVD?) in more than one format.

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You can still send keyboard commands to MC. I'm confused as to why you think you can't.... There are pretty good directions on the Girder site about how to send keyboard commands to various applications.


I know how it is *supposed* to work, but I can't seem to catch the MC application unless it's in MEGA-ME mode.  Hairstyle is totally "no joy" when it comes to sending a keyboard event to the application.  If you have an event that works, I'd love to know the specific settings.

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As for FF--the MCC commands only open up existing functionality in the program, since FF only jumps ahead 5sec. at a time in the regular interface, there isn't an MCC command to make it continually FF (although I've seen that wish requested before...).


That's what I figured, but it almost never hurts to ask.  You don't happen to know how to "repeat" a Girder event, do you?

JRiver:  Add a lack of continuous fast-forward to the list of things that MC needs to do in order to satisy video enthusiasts.  V9.1?

Brad:  Thanks again for the help!

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2003, 08:09:38 pm »

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Ctrl-Shift-F toggles between the various TV formats installed on your system (i.e. the NTSC, PAL, and SECAM variations).  This is only important to us "worldly" guys who have VHS (and DVD?) in more than one format.

So which mode does this work in? Mega? Mini? Visualizations? Hairstyle? I don't have a TV interface on my machine, so I never hit the "TV" section on the tree...

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I know how it is *supposed* to work, but I can't seem to catch the MC application unless it's in MEGA-ME mode.  Hairstyle is totally "no joy" when it comes to sending a keyboard event to the application.  If you have an event that works, I'd love to know the specific settings.

I'm hoping to have time to work on some of these problems this weekend. Does Hairstyle respond to normal keyboard shortcuts? I thought it only responded to the arrow keys, enter, and a couple of keys to toggle the view mode. Clearly, I spend most of my time in Mega-Me :)

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That's what I figured, but it almost never hurts to ask.  You don't happen to know how to "repeat" a Girder event, do you?

Heh, usually people have trouble with events repeating in Girder (hence the anti-repeat settings in Girder). I think that simulating something like this would be a bit tricky. The Girder forums may be a better place to ask....

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JRiver:  Add a lack of continuous fast-forward to the list of things that MC needs to do in order to satisy video enthusiasts.  V9.1?

I like the 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, etc. idea that somebody else posted in another thread...

Best,
Brad
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sraymond

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Re: Missing MCC_COMMAND from Girderr
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2003, 08:17:06 pm »

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So which mode does this work in? Mega? Mini? Visualizations? Hairstyle? I don't have a TV interface on my machine, so I never hit the "TV" section on the tree...


It works in all modes.

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Does Hairstyle respond to normal keyboard shortcuts? I thought it only responded to the arrow keys, enter, and a couple of keys to toggle the view mode.


Any of the keys I've tried (stop, pause, toggle hairstyle) have worked in hairstyle.

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JRiver:  Add a lack of continuous fast-forward to the list of things that MC needs to do in order to satisy video enthusiasts.  V9.1?  


I like the 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, etc. idea that somebody else posted in another thread...


Yeah...  this is what I meant by continuous fast-forward.  Either fixed intervals or some sort of slider dial that keeps continuously fast forwarding at the selected speed.

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