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AlanDistro

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Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« on: April 26, 2022, 10:31:25 pm »

I just upgraded to v29 two days ago. Since then it takes a solid (I timed it) three seconds to switch to any view every single time I click on a new one.

I hop around views very frequently while tagging and organizing. This hasn't been a problem in the past. But now simply moving from "Albums" to "Artists" (for example) hangs JRiver (spinning blue wheel next to curser) for a solid 3 seconds every time.

I have an insanely fast computer (12700K with 64GB of 3200MHz RAM). And an insanely fast drive (JRiver is installed on the C drive, with my library file on the C drive - the C drive is a Samsung 980 Pro nvme m.2 drive).

I only have ~20,000 songs in this library.

I don't use antivirus outside of Windows Defender, so it's not an antivirus problem.

I have Windows in "High performance" power mode.

All of my audio files are on two internal SATA SSD drives, so it's not a network issue.

I have the latest update installed. I've restarted numerous times. I'm ready to pull my hair out.

Any ideas what may be causing this hang?

JRMark and System Info below...

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=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 1.613 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 2.110 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 0.262 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 0.335 seconds
Score: 4398

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.156 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.160 seconds
    Direct copying... 0.216 seconds
    Small renders... 0.479 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 0.190 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 0.796 seconds
Score: 11012

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.048 seconds
    Populate database... 0.467 seconds
    Save database... 0.074 seconds
    Reload database... 0.058 seconds
    Search database... 0.651 seconds
    Sort database... 0.345 seconds
    Group database... 0.411 seconds
Score: 10469

JRMark (version 29.0.28 64 bit): 8627

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Library
    Total files: 23,483
    Audio files: 19,131
    Image files: 80
    Video files: 4,199
    Other files: 73
    Artists: 672
    Albums: 2,115
    Genres: 380
    Years: 60
    Playlists: 106
Processing
    Thumbnails built: 100% (23443 of 23483)
    Audio analyzed (audio files): 100% (19071 of 19131)
    Audio analyzed (video files): 26% (1100 of 4199)
Background Tools Running
    No tools currently running
Power
    Mode change (disable screensaver, keep monitor on) [expires in 1 minute]
Drive Info
    Time for 256 MB file on library / rip drive (C:) to make / read: 0.065 / 0.046 seconds
Media Center
    Version: 29.0.28 Registered
    Install path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 29\
    Interface plug-ins: Interface Plugins: TiVo Server (not running)
    JRMark: 8627 (version 29.0.28)
    Program run time: 19 seconds
    Memory used: 75.8 MB memory
    Handles used: 577 handles
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Re: Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2022, 11:07:08 pm »

When I first upgraded to MC 29 from MC 28, I had a similar issue. It didn't hang between every view, but it certainly would take between three and six seconds on some view operations it did virtually instantaneously before. I kept updating to the latest MC 29 version in the hopes that it would eventually be remedied, but it never happened.

I uninstalled and reinstalled MC 29 several times, but that did not fix it either. I then decided to uninstall both MC 29, and my previous installation of MC 28 too. I usually run the latest MC release along with the previous one until I am completely confident I'm ready to dump the older version.  Since I was having issues with MC 29, I was reluctant to uninstall MC 28 but decided to give it a go.

And what you know, that solved the problem, at least on my machine. If you are in a similar situation, perhaps give that a shot
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Re: Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2022, 11:47:14 pm »

I uninstalled v28 before installing v29 (which is just usually how I do it).

But I did just re-download and re-install v28 now, and v28 has zero hang issues. Jumping between views and in and out of artists is immediate.

I guess I'll uninstall v29 for now and try it again after a few more updates.

FYI, JRiver team, your links to download v28 are broken here: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Old_Versions You have an extra "https//" in the link so it returns a "This site cannot be reached" error. Removing the extra "https//" fixes it and then v28 can be downlaoded.
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Re: Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2022, 08:12:38 am »

I don't use antivirus outside of Windows Defender, so it's not an antivirus problem.

You still must configure it.  There's a thread here.
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Re: Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2022, 10:34:19 am »

Just to add a few more data points...

When I had both MC 28 and MC 29 installed, and MC 29 was having the lag issues, I could open up MC 28 (either by itself or at the same time with MC 29), and and MC 28 would function speedily… just like all 15 MC editions I have had prior to this.

As I noted in a previous post, after uninstalling both MC 28 and MC 29 (using Revo un-installer to completely clear the registry of any MC orphans) and then reinstalling only MC 29, my MC 29 lag issues were resolved. I did not configure Windows defender per the recommendations here on the forum. I never configure Windows defender for MC, and have never had an issue with it by not doing so. I have a boat load of software installed, some of dubious origins, yet still no issues. 
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Re: Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2022, 10:40:01 am »

I never configure Windows defender for MC, and have never had an issue with it by not doing so.
You did report a problem with MC29 speed above.
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Re: Loading views takes forever in v29 for me
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2022, 10:42:05 am »

Yes I did. And I reiterated that in the post you just quoted. My point was, that the fix had nothing to do with configuring Windows defender.
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