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[Monkeyboy]

Since this has not been mentioned in a while I thought i'd bring it up.
I know this has sort of been impletemented in the Library Browser but there is no way of using it in Theatre view.
Are you working on this J River guys?
If not are you going to be anytime soon?

Cheers
Rich

[hit_ny]

Hmm is it true that there is an Album Rating field in MC 11 ?

Does it average the album track scores ? how does it work?

[Monkeyboy]

if you use the library browser, click on view and select sort by rating.
It averages the ratings for the album I believe.
Since there is already an alogrithm for this I can't see it being hard to get something into Theatre view.
Rich

[zeltak]

i would alos really really love an option for a album rating view scheme !!!


Zeltak  

[hit_ny]

i would alos really really love an option for a album rating view scheme !!!


Zeltak  

Is it not possible to create a view schem to do this yourself ?

Isn't Album Rating a field one can display in a scheme.

I'm curious how many decimal points to go to after the decimal point ? you did say they do an average.

I dont have mc11 so cant tell.

[Monkeyboy]

Is it not possible to create a view scheme to do this yourself ?

It isn't possible with the standard fields or else I would have done it  
I am sure there are ways by creating custom fields but it all gets a bit messy for my liking

Isn't Album Rating a field one can display in a scheme.

nope

I'm curious how many decimal points to go to after the decimal point ? you did say they do an average.

I think only J River can answer that.
Rich

[Alex B]

I use this field:



It's not like the "Rating", no stars. I have to use the keyboard and select all the album tracks, but since I don't change album ratings often it's OK. Ten stars would need quite much space too.

If you make now a similar Library Field (with values from 1 to 5), it may work later with stars if that option becomes available.

[hit_ny]

aww....i was hoping it averaged the track ratings to at least 2 decimal points..which is the way i have it currently.

Giving me a range from 2.60 - 4.50 ( lots of steps in there)

But its a pain to have to calculate this manually when an avg function could  do it easily. And a view scheme could display it as desired

[Alex B]

So you are talking about statistical album ratings based on track ratings. I have no use for that. I rate some albums high for other reasons even the songs are not so good and vice versa. That is why I like to have values from 1 to 10. Having only 5 steps is too rough for manual rating.

[hit_ny]

Having only 5 steps is too rough for manual rating

My album rating range is 2.60 - 4.50 (that's 190 points after the decimal place)

I came up with this as its easy to translate track ratings into album ratings.

I initially thought of using a scheme similar to yours for track ratings as i thought only 5 steps is too limited, but having 5 steps to rate to is a lot easier than 10 (to start with).

It works quite well except for certain albums (5%of what i got) that tend to be very well put together but dont have very good track ratings. i make use of the preferences (as well) in this case.

[Monkeyboy]

Alex, An averaging would do for me, to 1  decimal point.
I spend enough time rating and tagging songs without having another field to take care of.
Any word from J River on this?
Rich

[hit_ny]

I rate some albums high for other reasons even the songs are not so good and vice versa. That is why I like to have values from 1 to 10. Having only 5 steps is too rough for manual rating.

What is the relation between track ratings and  album rating in your scheme ?

[Alex B]

What is the relation between track ratings and  album rating in your scheme ?

I just noticed your question.

A: Actually there is no relation. I may rate an album high for e.g. historical context, but there might be only one song that I can listen to with pleasure anymore.

For example: An album gets 8, because it was 50 weeks on top ten, it has splendid cover art and because I have nice memories about the artist, but only one of the songs gets four stars. The other songs get only one star.

For me a calculated Album Rating could be a starting point, but I guess I would rather keep that empty until I actually rate the album.

[hit_ny]

For me a calculated Album Rating could be a starting point, but I guess I would rather keep that empty until I actually rate the album.

you say "rate the album" this implies more research than just rating all the tracks. You want extra info like how long the album was in the charts etc. Which "could" lead to the situation that you described, an album that does well in the charts but you dont particularly like or the converse.

My "preference" is ... Do i like this album given the tracks it has !!

Since when i listen to the album, its the sound that affects me more than anything else. Dont really pay attention to how it did on the charts or the cover art. Its rated solely on music.

So i use avg ratings as a rough guide to how much i liked an album and as a way to pick albums that would go into top 5 or 10 lists.

With avg ratings it could be possible to get a best of  list by genre/year/by the artist/decade/ etc.

[Alex B]

Well, I could use a calculated rating for e.g. smartlists and keep my "collector's album rating" as it is now (a custom field). They could both exist.  

A general question: What happens if a new library field is introduced by JRiver and the user already has an identically named field?