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[shAf]

... or it may be my EAC configuration ... but  MJ is not recognizing the tags, specifically genre and my comment.   My EAC is setup for extracting & ripping Ogg with the compressions option "add ID3 tag". and "use ID3 v1.1  (not v1.0)", and ID3 v2 is disabled.

 ... suggestions, ideas???

 MJ v8.0.382

[xen-uno]

See my first post in http://www.musicex.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1034837296

After setting up EAC as shown, uncheck all options related to tagging

Xenno

[shAf]

thanx xenno ...

Regarding ... "Additional Command Line Options put in the following: (replace the 8 with whatever quality value u want)
%s -q 8 -t "%t" -a "%a" -l "%g" -c "comment=EAC: v1 ogg @ q8" -G "%m" -d %y -N %n" ... can you elaborate, otherwise point me to a reference.  Presumably some of these commandline options point point to ID tag fiels as defined by EAC.  The options which are caps (or not) are a bit confusing (e.g., '-N' & '-d' ... but I think I can figure it out).

[shAf]

Oops! ... didn't seem to work.  I'll look again to see if I did something wrong ... but I copied the commandline options in (copy&paste), and then changed only the -q option, and then made appropriated changes inside the comment field.  The result of EAC is to extract the WAV only(??).
... hmmm ... I see "user defined encoder"!.  So, I make that change and the DOS window says:

"Unicode translation error 87
Couldn't convert comment to UTF-8, cannot add
Opening with wav module: WAV file reader" ...

but then continues to create the Ogg file.  I'll report the result ...

[xen-uno]

>>The options which are caps (or not) are a bit confusing

Case is, of course, very important

For complete tag description click on this link:
http://home.revealed.net/xen/oggenc.html

Any place that you see a % sign (ie %s which is the source file name) is where oggenc fills in data from EAC.

Vorbis Tags are far superior to MP3's IDvX tags. I think even APE uses Vorbis Tags.
For instance, if you want to create a quality tag you insert the following in the ACLO:
-c "quality=q8"

Xenno

[shAf]

 The result was still no genre recognized, but the comment field was recognized(?)

 I see no mistakes with my reading your instructions, but I do notice my "compression options" dialog is different ... the tabs are different.  I'm using v0.9 beta 4.

[xen-uno]

I am too (V0.9 beta 4 - 22 May 2002)

Make sure the syntax of your ACLO string is exactly the same as mine. Better yet, copy & paste my string.
%s -q 8 -t "%t" -a "%a" -l "%g" -c "comment=EAC: v1 ogg @ q8" -G "%m" -d %y -N %n

I assume you have the following:
latest MJ
latest Oggenc
latest EAC (since we have differences - maybe redownload/reinstall)

You say your compression dialog looks different, yet were running the same version (is yours 22 May 2002 also?). That could be a clue.

Here's the string section that does the Genre tagging:
-G "%m"

I don't remember how I found out it was %m. Since our versions look different, maybe %m is not correct for yours (but I really doubt it).

Can u make a screen copy of your Compressions Options>External Compression like I did?

Xenno

PS: To summarize, all tagging is correct except for Genre? And you are filling in the Genre field before Rip/Encode? (sorry had to ask)

edit>
"Unicode translation error 87
Couldn't convert comment to UTF-8, cannot add
Opening with wav module: WAV file reader" ...

I get this sometimes too. No problem, though. It will still tag correctly. I see you did "copy & paste" by one of your earlier posts. So syntax should be correct

[shAf]

 My EAC shows 22 May 2002 too ... but (e.g.) mine does not have a "LAME DLL" tab ... wierd!

 Yess ... all tags show 'cept genre, which is empty ... and "togger" implies genre didn't get written either (... and yes, I did fill out the EAC genre field ...<g>...

 ... I investigate futher ...

[shAf]

 Argh!!! ... it's apparently because I have a tendency to use non-standard genre tags ... e.g., "country rock".  Who would of thunk???

[rocketsauce]

Using non-standard genres is a problem I've always had with EAC, too.  Lately, I've been using EAC to rip, and Winvorbis to encode.

http://winvorbis.stationplaylist.com/

[xen-uno]

I gave up my favorite non-standard genre's (such as acid country, jap rap, eskimo jive, and christian punk to name a few) in
favor of rock, alternative, avante garde, soundtrack, etc. just to simplify things.

Non-standard genre's should be written, just that MJ won't read them.
Verify non-std tag did get written with WinVorbis (small & fast loading tag editor/encoder w/ VorbisGain).
Funny thing, you can define non-standard genre's in MJ.
I'll try ripping a tune w/ a "xenno" genre to see what happens.

Xenno

PS: What's does "togger" music sound like?

[rocketsauce]

tOGGer is a program for batch tagging OGG files.

http://klickitat.fial.com/bob/tOGGer/

[xen-uno]

I get it....tOGGer

Verified: Non standard tagging is a problem w/ EAC. When Genre tagged (with WinVorbis) w/ "Xenno" for instance, MJ reads tag just fine.

Xenno

[shAf]

 EAC not writing non-standard genre tags finally begs the question ... "is that complex command line really necessary???"  If simply I use '-q 6.0', all tags are recognized.

[shAf]

 I'll take that back.  The preferred comment isn't recognized ... and there's probably a big difference between these OGG tags and ID3 tags.