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[JONCAT]

I'm still waitin for the perfect DAP but I am starting to get ready by making Ogg's of my Ape's.

Anone else storing this way, with lossy as well. I am using another machine to keep them physically seperated.

What about synce the main library to update the Ogg's as new music is added?

thanks,
Dr. C

[LonWar]

I keep ape, mp3 160 and mp3 32.

I treat each as a seperate track. When I am tagging a album, I don't see a difference in tagging 10 files or 30 files....

[bspachman]

Some discussion on this subject is also happening here:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=31857

Share & Enjoy!
brad

[dpippel]

Yep - FLAC and 320K LAME MP3 (--preset insane). I have 2 libraries in MC - one for each. All of my CDs are ripped to FLAC when I get 'em, then if I want to move them to my iPod I encode to MP3. Disk space is SO cheap these days it's not a problem at all to manage my collection this way.

[JONCAT]

Don't want to turn this into an Ogg vs. Lame thread but what are the conversion times like for people. I tried the GoGo mp3 encoder at 320 and it's fast.

Storage is cheap and I haven't really started building the lossy library yet. Syncing doesn't seem like a big deal but is the consensus here that it takes to long to convert?

I tried an album from Ape>Ogg the other day, a short Dylan album and it took 5-7 minutes on an A64 2500mHz machine.

My instinct is to have the files in mp3 or ogg for quick transfer; the last thing I want is to be waiting for a last minute pre-work transfer to the handheld.

Are mp3's at 320 (lame) smaller than Ogg on "high" ?
Sound pretty much the same?

thanks!
Dr. C

[Alex B]

I have a bit different approach. I rip in a lossless format, but I keep the ape files in my archives only (actually, one disc image ape file + cue & apl files for each CD). From those disc image files I make HQ lossy track files for PC -> Hifi playback.

For those track files I have mostly used Musepack at "Braindead" (~250-300 kbps). Its quality is 100% transparent for me. I have never been able to distinguish it from the original in ABX tests (even when testing problem samples with high quality headphones). However, the recent development of Ogg Vorbis has made it probably as good already at about 224 kbps (= -q7 or Normal/High in MC). Actually, I would say that 99% of music encoded with the latest Vorbis encoder would be transparent at a much lower bitrate than ~224 kbps.

For me, the main reason for using mpc or ogg instead of mp3 is the real gapless playback functionality. Mp3 can never be perfect because it is not gapless by design. (Though, I still have over 33000 MP3 files that I have ripped earlier. I am slowly reripping the old CDs using my current archive system.)

The default Ogg Vorbis encoder in MC is a bit old. The best quality is currently available with the aoTuV b4.51 encoder version. It is also faster. Here are my instructions for using it with MC: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=31861.msg219162#msg219162

I use only a portable MP3 CD player currently, but I think I would buy a portable HD or flash player that can be used with the Rockbox firmware, which would make possible to play my mpc and ogg files.

The Rockbox site: http://www.rockbox.org/
A Rockbox discussion at HA: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40992

[hit_ny]

For me, the main reason for using mpc or ogg instead of mp3 is the real gapless playback functionality. Mp3 can never be perfect because it is not gapless by design. (Though, I still have over 33000 MP3 files that I have ripped earlier. I am slowly reripping the old CDs using my current archive system.)

The Rockbox site: http://www.rockbox.org/
A Rockbox discussion at HA: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40992

Yeah, its a real pity they have not figured out how to make Cue Files work yet.