Topic: Digital TV Tuner Support? (Read 35346 times)

rpalmer68 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 23, 2006, 07:05:21 am »

OK installed .151 and have emailed log as it is too long for a message.

I still get same "Unable to play TV" error when trying to scan digital channels.

Richard

Yaobing · « **Reply #51 on:** March 23, 2006, 09:23:32 am »

Quote from: rpalmer68 on March 23, 2006, 07:05:21 am

OK installed .151 and have emailed log as it is too long for a message.

I still get same "Unable to play TV" error when trying to scan digital channels.

Richard

Thanks for the log file. Here I see a problem:

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0016000: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: Digital Tuners:
0016000: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016000: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016000: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016000: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016000: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: Receiver components:
0016015: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     BDA Slip De-Framer
0016015: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     BDA MPE Filter
0016015: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016015: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016015: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA
0016015: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists:     DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA

You have four identical devices (you said so in your original post, but it did not register in me).

I have to find a way to distinguish one from another. You picked one tuner, the program picked a (wrong) capture filter to connect to it. And the rest of connections failed. In a perfect world, the connection of one tuner to a different capture filter should not have succeeded.

rpalmer68 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:48:15 pm »

Quote from: Yaobing on March 23, 2006, 09:23:32 am

I have to find a way to distinguish one from another.

I don't know if this helps you at all, but I use Digitalwatch2 at the moment, and it has the following info in it's cards file to identify each tuner.

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<Card active="0" detected="1">
	<Tuner device="@device:pnp:\\?\usb#vid_13d3&pid_3223#0008ca1953ec#
{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{a0f9219e-7c58-4a1d-b8e7-7325f0bc4501}" 
name="DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA" />
</Card>

<Card active="1" detected="1">
	<Tuner device="@device:pnp:\\?\usb#vid_13d3&pid_3223#0008ca195478#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\
{a0f9219e-7c58-4a1d-b8e7-7325f0bc4501}" name="DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA" />
</Card>

<Card active="0" detected="1">
	<Tuner device="@device:pnp:\\?\usb#vid_13d3&pid_3223#0008ca1952a2#
{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{a0f9219e-7c58-4a1d-b8e7-7325f0bc4501}" name="DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA" />
</Card>

<Card active="0" detected="1">
	<Tuner device="@device:pnp:\\?\usb#vid_13d3&pid_3223#0008ca195383#
{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{a0f9219e-7c58-4a1d-b8e7-7325f0bc4501}" name="DNTV Live! Tiny USB2 BDA" />
</Card>

Regards
Richard

Yaobing · « **Reply #53 on:** March 24, 2006, 05:45:30 pm »

Thanks. What you posted are the moniker display names of each device. I need to extract information from the monikers (right now I only get friendly name, which is the same for all four devices). More importantly I need to map one of the tuner filter to the corresponding capture filter.

Right now I am temporarily distracted from the project. Next week I will resume.

GeorgeIoak · « **Reply #54 on:** March 25, 2006, 09:15:30 pm »

I just wanted to report that I have a Twinhan 102G DVB-S card and am using the their latest drivers. I have confirmed that both the hardware setup and drivers work with MyTheatre. This build does not recognize the card when I go to configure the TV settings.

I am very new to your software so if you would like any additional information please let me know. My system also has an ATI AIW and that card is recognized. I am located in the US if that matters to you.

GeorgeIoak · « **Reply #55 on:** March 25, 2006, 09:54:59 pm »

Sorry, I didn't realize that you had to select Digital TV. It does recognize the card but when I g to select the channels it come back with a "Failed to Play TV (unknown error)" dialog box.

Here is a portion of my log file...

0023063: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Start
0023078: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: Cable
0023078: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
0023078: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: Antenna
0023094: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
0023094: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: ATSC
0023094: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 0DAD2FDD-5FD7-11D3-8F50-00C04F7971E2
0023094: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: Digital Cable
0023094: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 143827AB-F77B-498D-81CA-5A007AEC28BF
0023110: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: AuxIn1
0023110: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
0023110: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: FM Radio
0023110: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
0023125: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: TuningSpace found: DVB-T
0023125: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: DVB-T
0023125: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: 216C62DF-6D7F-4E9A-8571-05F14EDB766A
0023125: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: Mediaportal DVB-S
0023125: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: FA4B375A-45B4-4D45-8440-263957B11623
0023141: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Unique name: MYDVB-S
0023141: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: guid NetworkType: FA4B375A-45B4-4D45-8440-263957B11623
0023141: TV: CDigitalTV::LoadTuningSpace: Finish (78 ms)
0023141: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildDigitalPreviewGraph: Start
0023141: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildUpstream: Start
0023157: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildUpstream: giving country code 1 to IFrequencyMap
0023172: TV: CDigitalTV::ConnectFilters: Start
0023172: TV: CDigitalTV::ConnectFilters: Found an unconnected pin on downstream filter.
0023250: TV: CDigitalTV::ConnectFilters: Failed to connect to pin on downstream filter.
0023250: TV: CDigitalTV::ConnectFilters: Finish (78 ms)
0023250: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildUpstream: Cannot load tuner device and connect network provider hr=0x80004005
0023250: TV: CDigitalTV::TeardownDigitalGraph: Start
0023266: TV: CDigitalTV::QueryIVMRMixerControl9Interface: Start
0023266: TV: CDigitalTV::QueryIVMRMixerControl9Interface: Finish (0 ms)
0023297: TV: CDigitalTV::TeardownDigitalGraph: Finish (47 ms)
0023297: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildUpstream: Finish (156 ms)
0023313: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildDigitalPreviewGraph: Finish (172 ms)
0023313: TV: CMainTVManager::PlayDigitalChannel: Finish (485 ms)
0023313: TV: CMainTVManager::StartPreview: Start
0023313: TV: CMainTVManager::StartPreview: Finish (0 ms)
0023313: TV: CMainTVManager::SetupTVTuner: Start
0023328: TV: CMainTVManager::SetupTVTuner: Finish (15 ms)
0023375: TV: CMainTVManager::SetOption: Finish (4687 ms)
0025657: TV: CMainTVManager::StopPreview: Start
0025657: TV: CMainTVManager::StopPreview: Finish (0 ms)
0025672: TV: CMainTVManager::TearDownGraph: Start
0025672: TV: CMainTVManager::DismantleTextOverlay: Start
0025672: TV: CMainTVManager::DismantleTextOverlay: Finish (0 ms)
0025672: TV: CMainTVManager::TearDownGraph: After NukeDownstream.
0025672: TV: CMainTVManager::TearDownGraph: Finish (0 ms)
0025688: TV: CDigitalTV::TeardownDigitalGraph: Start
0025688: TV: CDigitalTV::QueryIVMRMixerControl9Interface: Start
0025688: TV: CDigitalTV::QueryIVMRMixerControl9Interface: Finish (0 ms)
0025688: TV: CDigitalTV::TeardownDigitalGraph: Finish (0 ms)
0025813: TV: CMJTVCtrl::FinalConstruct: Start
0025828: TV: CMJTVCtrl::FinalConstruct: HWND: 0. MainTVManager created: 272A008
0025828: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: Start
0025844: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: Digital Tuners:
0025860: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: DTV-DVBS 878 Digital Tuner Filter
0025860: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: Receiver components:
0025860: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: DTV-DVB 878 Virtual BDA Receiver
0025875: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: DTV-DVBS 878 Digital Capture Filter
0025875: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: BDA Slip De-Framer
0025875: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: BDA MPE Filter
0025875: TV: CMainTVManager::InitializeDevicesLists: Finish (47 ms)
0025891: TV: CMJTVCtrl::FinalConstruct: Finish (78 ms)
0025891: TV: CMainTVManager::OnSize: Start
0025891: TV: CMainTVManager::OnSize: OnSize called. Width - 0, Height - 0
0025891: TV: CMainTVManager::OnSize: Finish (0 ms)
0025938: TV: CMainTVManager::StopPreview: Start
0025938: TV: CMainTVManager::StopPreview: Finish (0 ms)
0025938: TV: CMainTVManager::TearDownGraph: Start
0025938: TV: CMainTVManager::DismantleTextOverlay: Start
0025938: TV: CMainTVManager::DismantleTextOverlay: Finish (0 ms)
0025953: TV: CMainTVManager::TearDownGraph: After NukeDownstream.
0025953: TV: CMainTVManager::TearDownGraph: Finish (15 ms)

Yaobing · « **Reply #56 on:** March 25, 2006, 11:27:24 pm »

Quote from: GeorgeIoak on March 25, 2006, 09:54:59 pm

Sorry, I didn't realize that you had to select Digital TV. It does recognize the card but when I g to select the channels it come back with a "Failed to Play TV (unknown error)" dialog box.

Here is a portion of my log file...

0023250: TV: CGenericHDTV::BuildUpstream: Cannot load tuner device and connect network provider hr=0x80004005

The program tried to connect an ATSC or DVB-T network provider to a DVB-S tuner. It would fail. Sorry, currently we are only trying to support ATSC and DVB-T devices. DVB-S is not on the table yet.

Yaobing · « **Reply #57 on:** April 01, 2006, 12:31:08 am »

Quote

11.1.160 (3/31/2006)

1. Changed: Added country list on "TV Channels" property page so that people without an analog tuner device can still select a country for digital devices.
2. Changed: More debug logging for TV.

11.1.158 (3/30/2006)

1. NEW: MC tries to resolve ambiguities when there are multiple instances of identical digital TV devices on the same computer.

Please let me know whether the changes above have improved DVB-T support. Thanks.

raym · « **Reply #58 on:** April 02, 2006, 12:21:08 am »

Quote from: Yaobing on April 01, 2006, 12:31:08 am

Please let me know whether the changes above have improved DVB-T support. Thanks.

Channel scanning still isn't finding any channels.

Yaobing, I have mailed you the log.
Cheers,
Ray.

wickesy · « **Reply #59 on:** April 02, 2006, 04:25:32 am »

Quote from: Yaobing on April 01, 2006, 12:31:08 am

Please let me know whether the changes above have improved DVB-T support. Thanks.

I'm still getting a "Failed to play TV" when scanning for channels using a Hauppauge Nova-T USB2.

Log file sent.

David

GeorgeIoak · « **Reply #60 on:** April 02, 2006, 07:27:07 pm »

Just letting you know that my Twinhan 102G with the BDA drivers (which are suppose to simulate a DVB-T device) is still generating the failed to play TV error message.

Yaobing · « **Reply #61 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:37:18 am »

Thanks for the log files. Looks like we have little progress here. Please hang up with me.

By the way, in the future please zip the log files before sending them. Some mail servers mess with text files and render unicode text file unusable.

GeorgeIoak · « **Reply #62 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:42:47 am »

I did not send you my log files for the DVB-S card, would you like those?

Yaobing · « **Reply #63 on:** April 03, 2006, 02:14:16 pm »

Quote from: GeorgeIoak on April 03, 2006, 08:42:47 am

I did not send you my log files for the DVB-S card, would you like those?

I am not sure what to do with your case yet, considering that straight DVB-Ts do not work yet

. Send the log file anyway!

bob · « **Reply #64 on:** April 06, 2006, 01:27:24 pm »

Yaobing,
Do you want me to send you the hdfusion 3 card for testing or do you have some ideas about the initialization issues (can't switch between analog and digital, also switching decoders requires a reboot).

Yaobing · « **Reply #65 on:** April 06, 2006, 03:06:49 pm »

Quote from: bob on April 06, 2006, 01:27:24 pm

Yaobing,
Do you want me to send you the hdfusion 3 card for testing or do you have some ideas about the initialization issues (can't switch between analog and digital, also switching decoders requires a reboot).

If you still see the same problem in the latest build, please send the device to me.

Yaobing · « **Reply #66 on:** April 06, 2006, 05:16:54 pm »

Quote from: Matt on April 06, 2006, 05:06:08 pm

11.1.167 (4/6/2006)

1. New: Added new method of scanning DVB-T channels (experimental).

Please let me know how this works. Thanks.

bob · « **Reply #67 on:** April 07, 2006, 03:57:35 pm »

Quote from: Yaobing on April 06, 2006, 03:06:49 pm

If you still see the same problem in the latest build, please send the device to me.

Just tried the latest build and it seems to work better. I can go back and forth from analog to digital channels and all of the 480p channels seem to work fine when I'm using the dvico HDTV decoder (bda)

I'm having some trouble with the 720p, and 1080i stuff, the screen starts out off to the right and smaller that it seems it should be. When I quit the 1080i channel MC just exited w/o warning.

When I changed the decoder to dvico HDTV DxVA decoder (bda) I get the 480p screen OK but then I run into that problem where I can't seem to switch between analog and digital (going back to digital from analog gives a 0 strength signal).

Yaobing · « **Reply #68 on:** April 07, 2006, 05:22:58 pm »

Quote from: bob on April 07, 2006, 03:57:35 pm

Just tried the latest build and it seems to work better. I can go back and forth from analog to digital channels and all of the 480p channels seem to work fine when I'm using the dvico HDTV decoder (bda)

I'm having some trouble with the 720p, and 1080i stuff, the screen starts out off to the right and smaller that it seems it should be. When I quit the 1080i channel MC just exited w/o warning.

When I changed the decoder to dvico HDTV DxVA decoder (bda) I get the 480p screen OK but then I run into that problem where I can't seem to switch between analog and digital (going back to digital from analog gives a 0 strength signal).

Bob,

Send me the device so I can look at it more closely. Thanks.

Yaobing

bob · « **Reply #69 on:** April 11, 2006, 03:50:02 pm »

You should get it either Wednesday or Thursday.

Jethro · « **Reply #70 on:** April 26, 2006, 11:52:25 pm »

Hi guys,
Just found out about this product. I'm planning to build a HTPC with this media centre but i want to be able to receive digital tv. was reading this thread and i was wondering if this media centre support Hauppauge Nova T MCE Digital Tuner Card. I'm living in Australia which means it's a DVB-T, or does anyone have any experience with this card at all.

Thanks

Yaobing · « **Reply #71 on:** April 27, 2006, 08:46:48 am »

Quote from: Jethro on April 26, 2006, 11:52:25 pm

Hi guys,
Just found out about this product. I'm planning to build a HTPC with this media centre but i want to be able to receive digital tv. was reading this thread and i was wondering if this media centre support Hauppauge Nova T MCE Digital Tuner Card. I'm living in Australia which means it's a DVB-T, or does anyone have any experience with this card at all.

Thanks

DVB-T is not currently supported. We are actively working on it (although it is a bit slow in recent days). Not sure when it can be finished, but I'd say definitely for version 12. Give 11.1 a try and let us know what you find.

Jethro · « **Reply #72 on:** April 27, 2006, 07:12:04 pm »

Quote from: Yaobing on April 27, 2006, 08:46:48 am

DVB-T is not currently supported. We are actively working on it (although it is a bit slow in recent days). Not sure when it can be finished, but I'd say definitely for version 12. Give 11.1 a try and let us know what you find.

sorry to be a pain, but which pci digital tv tuner card do you think you're more likely to support?
Hauppage Nova-T MCE
http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_nova-t_mce.html
or
Avermedia DVB-T 777 digital hd tv tuner card
http://www.averm.co.uk/avermedia/aver/products_digitvtuner_dvbt771.asp?show=1 (closes i can find on the product)

Both are Microsoft MCE certified.
I don't mind doing testing for you. Just tell me which card is more likely for you guys to support and i'll go get it.

Yaobing · « **Reply #73 on:** April 27, 2006, 07:48:21 pm »

Quote from: Jethro on April 27, 2006, 07:12:04 pm

sorry to be a pain, but which pci digital tv tuner card do you think you're more likely to support?

We are trying to make it as generic as possible. If both devices conform to the bda standard, they should both be supported. I appreciate help from users like you since we can not test DVB-T here in the US.

Jethro · « **Reply #74 on:** April 27, 2006, 09:31:10 pm »

Quote from: Yaobing on April 27, 2006, 07:48:21 pm

We are trying to make it as generic as possible. If both devices conform to the bda standard, they should both be supported. I appreciate help from users like you since we can not test DVB-T here in the US.

No problem... i guess both cards will work since both cards are MCE certified thus making them conform to the bda standard..
extract from this article
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1610533046;pp;2;taxid;2136212723

One very important note: if you plan to use Windows Media Centre Edition (MCE), you cannot just stick any old card into the PC and expect it to work. MCE requires specific drivers, called BDA (broadcast driver architecture) drivers, and you need to make sure that your TV tuner has the required driver support. If your card doesn't have BDA drivers, it won't work with MCE.

Jethro · « **Reply #75 on:** May 03, 2006, 06:16:37 pm »

I've bought Avermedia DVB-T 777 digital hd tv tuner card (with bda drivers) and when i went into scanning for channesl, the signal strength is 0 and i can't get any channel at all. Where can i get the log file to post it so that you guys can have a look and see what's wrong with it?

Yaobing · « **Reply #76 on:** May 03, 2006, 11:04:22 pm »

Quote from: Jethro on May 03, 2006, 06:16:37 pm

I've bought Avermedia DVB-T 777 digital hd tv tuner card (with bda drivers) and when i went into scanning for channesl, the signal strength is 0 and i can't get any channel at all. Where can i get the log file to post it so that you guys can have a look and see what's wrong with it?

Help -> Configure Debug Logging...

Check "output to a log file" checkbox, and select "TV" only for "types of events to log".

You can either click "Click to view current log file" or find it in C:\Documents and settings\[user name]\Application Data\J River\Media Center 11\Log.txt.

Do not post it here since the log file is too large to be posted. Email it to yaobing AT jriver DOT com

raym · « **Reply #77 on:** May 10, 2006, 11:56:24 pm »

Just re-tried getting my DVB-T card working on MC 11.1.183. 1st time I tried, scanning found 5 channels but then the process hung. Killed MC and re-opened. When I tried to play the channels that were scanned - nothing. I tried playing a few other channels but MC appeared to do nothing until about 30 seconds later, it died.

I re-started MC again and switched on logging. I removed all channels and attempted the process again. I can no longer scan/find channels without MC hanging. Since MC is hanging, I cannot provide a log (or can I?).

Yaobing · « **Reply #78 on:** May 11, 2006, 12:36:16 am »

Quote from: raym on May 10, 2006, 11:56:24 pm

Since MC is hanging, I cannot provide a log (or can I?).

After killing the hanging process, go get the log file directly before you restart MC: C:\Documents and settings\[user name]\Application Data\J Rvier\Media Center 11\log.txt

OR:

Upon restarting MC after it hanged, choose Help -> Configure Debug logging ..., and click "Click to view log file from previous run".

raym · « **Reply #79 on:** July 14, 2006, 11:15:34 pm »

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Upon restarting MC after it hanged, choose Help -> Configure Debug logging ..., and click "Click to view log file from previous run".

Hi Yaobing. I have just emailed you the log. Using MC 11.1.188 now.

Thanks.

Yaobing · « **Reply #80 on:** July 17, 2006, 04:24:29 pm »

Thanks for the log file.

I will need to find time to work on this, and need to find a (a totally new) way to get the channels scanned.

Yaobing · « **Reply #81 on:** November 15, 2006, 06:10:05 pm »

Has anyone tried the latest MC12 with regard to DVB-T support? It has only a small change, but I am hoping it will have some effect.

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