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Jakester

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I just upgraded to the latest MC12 V12.0.251

It has been a few months since I upgraded versions, and now the "MP3 Encoding Options" has changed.  By default the "Custom Command Line Switches (advanced)" is selected with "lame.exe --preset fast standard" as the settings.

Before the upgrade I was using "VBR Encoding" with the "fast" option.  I don't remember the "Target Quality" setting, but I think it was the second from highest.

I have a lage .ape library and do not want to clear the huge cache!!!  I assume the "--preset fast standard" settings are designed to mimic my previous settings???  If so then good on JR for automatically generating that option and making it the default.  By wow a simple note on the dialog to explain this would have been nice.

Can someone please confirm that this is indeed the case?  I want all my portable music to be converted from my .ape library in a very similar manner.  (I would love lossless on my 60GB iPod but understand that this is still not a simple matter).

Thanks in advance.
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Re: mp3 encoder options changed - what equals my previous options???
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 12:23:10 pm »

I think if u use fast-option you don't even use lame. I think u used gogo (fast option encoder) in the past. But this codec is for cbr-encoding. 
If you want to use portable mp3 vbr use the portable preset or something like this in command line:

-V6 --vbr-new (~115 kbps), -V5 --vbr-new (~130 kbps) or -V4 --vbr-new (~160 kbps)

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Re: mp3 encoder options changed - what equals my previous options???
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 02:25:50 pm »

I just upgraded to the latest MC12 V12.0.251

It has been a few months since I upgraded versions, and now the "MP3 Encoding Options" has changed.  By default the "Custom Command Line Switches (advanced)" is selected with "lame.exe --preset fast standard" as the settings.

Before the upgrade I was using "VBR Encoding" with the "fast" option.  I don't remember the "Target Quality" setting, but I think it was the second from highest.

I have a lage .ape library and do not want to clear the huge cache!!!  I assume the "--preset fast standard" settings are designed to mimic my previous settings???  If so then good on JR for automatically generating that option and making it the default.  By wow a simple note on the dialog to explain this would have been nice.

Can someone please confirm that this is indeed the case?  I want all my portable music to be converted from my .ape library in a very similar manner.  (I would love lossless on my 60GB iPod but understand that this is still not a simple matter).

Thanks in advance.

"lame.exe --preset fast standard" uses exactly the same encoder adjustments as the currect "High" VBR option.

The former "fast" switch means the same as "--vbr-new", which is now the default VBR mode.

The new MP3 encoding options are explained in this thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=36445.0

I think if u use fast-option you don't even use lame. I think u used gogo (fast option encoder) in the past. But this codec is for cbr-encoding. 
If you want to use portable mp3 vbr use the portable preset or something like this in command line:

-V6 --vbr-new (~115 kbps), -V5 --vbr-new (~130 kbps) or -V4 --vbr-new (~160 kbps)

tn1

Gogo is used only when the "Faster CBR encoding" option is is selected. All other options use LAME.

LAME has much better quality at all bitrates, but GoGo is about 3x faster. In my opinion GoGo is useful if you are in a hurry and you can afford to use a bitrate of 192 kbps or more. Below that the quality problems start to be more or less audible.

Previously the LAME VBR options had a tickbox for the newer fast mode. If someone wants to use the old slower VBR mode for some reason it is possible to use -V 5, -V 2, -V 0 etc without the --vbr-new part in the custom dialog.
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Re: mp3 encoder options changed - what equals my previous options???
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 08:41:43 pm »

Thanks Alex - sounds like "preset fast standard" is very close to what I was using before.  Any idea why the MC12 upgrade automatically chose that instead of the new "High" VBR option?
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Re: mp3 encoder options changed - what equals my previous options???
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 05:33:26 am »

Propably you had the custom option enabled and MC preserved your previous command line.

The LAME encoder produces identical mp3 files with the --preset fast standard and
-V 2 --vbr-new settings (which is the command line MC12 uses with the "VBR High" setting).
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