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icanrule

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Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« on: August 15, 2011, 06:35:37 am »

I've asked this question in the past but because I am a bit slow despite all my attempts I have not been able to resolve this issue.  It's been ongoing for years.  I've also seen other people ask it and unfortunately I have not come across a good answer from them either.  So I figured I would ask again but this time show screenshots. 

When I transfer files over to my mp3 player (android, samsung, sony, ect) my albums are all split up by artist.  Yet in j rivers media center it looks perfect.  People tell me that if I play with album artist the problem will go away but despite all my attempts all the music still shows as seperate.  I have taken some screenshots to give an example. Please visit http://imgur.com/a/IAJG7 to see the screenshots I have taken.

As you can see I am in albums but all the artists are split up.  How can I amalgamate all the same album together so that I can play an album with the click of a button.  Currently I have to add each one to a queue and it's a pain in the but. 

Note: It doesn't matter what I use on my android.  I have used built in music player, winamp, ubermusic (that is the screenshots) and none of them store albums correctly.  I'm sure it's a an mp3 tag but I have no clue which one and what to change it too.
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 11:51:20 am »

Let's look at the tags you have for 2 of the files from the Glen Campbell album shown in your screenshots.

In MC, select one of the tracks, open Action Window > Tag, and click on the line of text immediately under the Tag heading (it will  be the file type - duration - length).  Copy and paste those physical file tags into a reply here.  Do the same for one more track in the album.
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 03:05:02 pm »

I set it to "Show Tags with Values".  Here are some of the songs.

Album: 101 Sixties Hits
Artist: Otis Redding
Date: 2007
Disc#: 1
Genre: Pop
Name: The Dock of the Bay
Playlist: None
Track#: 1

Album: 101 Sixties Hits
Artist: David Bowie
Date: 2007
Disc#: 1
Genre: Pop
Name: Space Oddity
Playlist: None
Track#: 2

Album: 101 Sixties Hits
Artist: The Beach Boys
Date: 2007
Disc#: 1
Genre: Pop
Name: Good Vibrations
Playlist: None
Track#: 3

Album: 101 Sixties Hits
Artist: The Animals
Date: 2007
Disc#: 1
Genre: Pop
Name: House Of The Rising Sun
Playlist: None
Track#: 4
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 03:07:03 pm »

I didn't notice that before but that is not the album cover for this particular CD.  I don't even own a Glen Campbell CD.  It's just one of the artists on the compilation.
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 03:44:42 pm »

Sorry, I just saw Glen's big smile, and thought it was supposed to be his album.

It is important to look at physical tags, since that is what other programs will see.  If you can, use the method suggested.

Showing Tags with Values hints that there is no Album Artist, hence the problem.
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 05:44:29 pm »

I didn't understand your method the first time around.  I didn't realize it was possible to view the pure tag information.  Here is exaclty what you requested.  4 of the songs.

First Song:

MPEG-1 Layer 3
183 Kbit VBR
44.1 Khz Joint stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No
Encoder: LAME
Gapless: Yes (576 start, 1164 end)

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
   Name: The Dock Of The Bay
   Artist: Otis Redding
   Album: 101 Sixties Hits
   Year: 2007
   Comment:
   Track #: 1
   Genre: Pop (13)

ID3v2.3 Tag: (217088 bytes)
  TIT2 (Name): The Dock Of The Bay
  TPE1 (Artist): Otis Redding
  TALB (Album): 101 Sixties Hits
  TRCK (Track #): 1
  TPOS (Disc #): 1
  TYER (Year): 2007
  TCON (Genre): Pop
  POPM (Rating): 4
  TBPM (BPM): 103
  APIC (Picture) (Cover): <too large to display>
  TENC: LAME 3.97 Final
  TLAN: English
  COMM (Date): 39083
  TXXX (Intensity): 2
  TXXX (replaygain_track_g..): -7.14 dB
  TXXX (replaygain_track_p..): 0.977910
  TXXX (Tool Name): Media Center
  TXXX (Tool Version): 16.0.149
  WXXX: <unknown data type>

Second Song:


MPEG-1 Layer 3
209 Kbit VBR
44.1 Khz Joint stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No
Encoder: LAME
Gapless: Yes (576 start, 1800 end)

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
   Name: Space Oddity
   Artist: David Bowie
   Album: 101 Sixties Hits
   Year: 2007
   Comment:
   Track #: 2
   Genre: Pop (13)

ID3v2.3 Tag: (217088 bytes)
  TIT2 (Name): Space Oddity
  TPE1 (Artist): David Bowie
  TALB (Album): 101 Sixties Hits
  TRCK (Track #): 2
  TPOS (Disc #): 1
  TYER (Year): 2007
  TCON (Genre): Pop
  POPM (Rating): 3
  TBPM (BPM): 68
  APIC (Picture) (Cover): <too large to display>
  TENC: LAME 3.97 Final
  TLAN: English
  COMM (Date): 39083
  TXXX (Intensity): 2
  TXXX (replaygain_track_g..): -8.88 dB
  TXXX (replaygain_track_p..): 1.000000
  TXXX (Tool Name): Media Center
  TXXX (Tool Version): 16.0.149
  WXXX: <unknown data type>


Third Song:


MPEG-1 Layer 3
127 Kbit VBR
44.1 Khz Joint stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No
Encoder: LAME
Gapless: Yes (576 start, 1644 end)

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
   Name: Good Vibrations
   Artist: The Beach Boys
   Album: 101 Sixties Hits
   Year: 2007
   Comment:
   Track #: 3
   Genre: Pop (13)

ID3v2.3 Tag: (217088 bytes)
  TIT2 (Name): Good Vibrations
  TPE1 (Artist): The Beach Boys
  TALB (Album): 101 Sixties Hits
  TRCK (Track #): 3
  TPOS (Disc #): 1
  TYER (Year): 2007
  TCON (Genre): Pop
  POPM (Rating): 3
  TBPM (BPM): 72
  APIC (Picture) (Cover): <too large to display>
  TENC: LAME 3.97 Final
  TLAN: English
  COMM (Date): 39083
  TXXX (Intensity): 2
  TXXX (replaygain_track_g..): -7.46 dB
  TXXX (replaygain_track_p..): 1.000000
  TXXX (Tool Name): Media Center
  TXXX (Tool Version): 16.0.149
  WXXX: <unknown data type>

Forth Song:


MPEG-1 Layer 3
125 Kbit VBR
44.1 Khz Joint stereo

Copyrighted: No
Original: Yes
Protected by CRC: No
Encoder: LAME
Gapless: Yes (576 start, 1716 end)

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
   Name: House Of The Rising Sun
   Artist: The Animals
   Album: 101 Sixties Hits
   Year: 2007
   Comment:
   Track #: 4
   Genre: Pop (13)

ID3v2.3 Tag: (217088 bytes)
  TIT2 (Name): House Of The Rising Sun
  TPE1 (Artist): The Animals
  TALB (Album): 101 Sixties Hits
  TRCK (Track #): 4
  TPOS (Disc #): 1
  TYER (Year): 2007
  TCON (Genre): Pop
  POPM (Rating): 3
  TBPM (BPM): 115
  APIC (Picture) (Cover): <too large to display>
  TENC: LAME 3.97 Final
  TLAN: English
  COMM (Date): 39083
  TXXX (Intensity): 3
  TXXX (replaygain_track_g..): -6.38 dB
  TXXX (replaygain_track_p..): 0.884920
  TXXX (Tool Name): Media Center
  TXXX (Tool Version): 16.0.149
  WXXX: <unknown data type>
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 06:21:03 pm »

So, no tags indicate an album artist.

To add one in MC, select the album tracks for the album we're talking about.  In the Tag Action Window, enter the name you want to use as the Album Artist on your other players, such as Various.  Then Tools > Library Tools > Update tags (from Library).

MC will automatically use the fact that there is no Album Artist to sort albums under the term (Multiple Artists) when you browse via artists.  See:

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Album_Artist_and_Album_Artist_%28Auto%29

for more info.

If your other players default to using only the Artist, then this is why you see tracks under each artist name.  If they need an Album Artist (or equivalent) to override this behavior, you'll need to add that tag.

Specifying an Album Artist will a) allow your players to use that value for grouping a compilation or various artists album, and b) will place the album under the given Album Artist in MC.
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 02:48:08 am »

I can't believe it was that easy.  I couldn't update tags (from library) because it kept failing.  So I deleted all the music on my phone and readded it. It's all organized perfectly.  I can't believe I have been living with this problem for years now and the answer was that easy.  I'm not sure why over half my compilations didn't have that album artist field filled in.  But it's all in the past now.  On to better pastures. 

It has been a good week for J. Rivers Media center.  Both this issue and http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=64584.0 have frustrated me to no end.  But with these modifications J. Rivers now does everything that I want.

Thanks for all the help. 
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Re: Same album name showing up separated by artists on mp3 player
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 03:37:40 pm »

When I had problems like this, I changed the folder structure on my phone or MP3 player.

Instead of transferring them to Music\Artist\Album I would have MC use Music\Album
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