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Herlock.1978

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External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« on: September 02, 2012, 04:56:08 am »

Hi,

One of the great advantage of a PC-HC for me is to add "on the fly" external subtitles on Blu-ray or DVD which do not contain the expected ones. Due to the large number of Bluray and DVD that I own, I don't want to rip them on HDD neither convert them in MKV. Many players offer this option.

I try to use JRiver MediaCenter but I don't find this option to load external subtitles. It seems that the player is alway expecting to have subtitles in the same folder than the video files which is impossible in the way that I try to use it. Do I'm wrong because it seems a pretty obvious option especially for a such powerful player?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 01:19:37 pm »

Welcome.

External subtitles in lots of formats are fully supported.  Make sure you follow the naming convention described under Sidecar Naming Rules here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Subtitles#Technical_Details
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Re: External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2012, 01:53:26 pm »

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Subtitles#Technical_Details

What is described here is perfect for MKV or similar kind of files, but impracticable for DVD and Bluray. It is mentioned that the subs file name should be the same that the video filename but for DVD or Blu-ray, what will be this name? VOB? 0001? And so how make the srt files distinctive by Blu-ray or DVD? May be I'm wrong (I hope so) but the sub functionality of your player seems quite limited in terms of access from my point of view, which is strange for a such advanced player.
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Re: External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2012, 02:00:56 pm »

DVD and Blu-ray is ripped to a folder.  The folder name is the identifier.

Sidecars, including subtitles, are next to the main index files (or in a Subtitles subfolder as described in the wiki) in that folder.

If there's some other naming scheme you are looking for, please describe it in detail.

Thanks.
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Re: External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2012, 05:04:01 pm »

DVD and Blu-ray is ripped to a folder.  The folder name is the identifier.

As I mentioned in my first message, I don't want to ripped my DVD or Blu-ray, it is a massive waste of time. I want to play them directly from the optical driver so I can't name folder or rename files as your documentation required.

Currently, player as MPC-HC or Potplayer or many other offer the ability to load external subtitles during the playback of any kind of file (MKV, DVD or Blu-ray from HDD or optical driver). It seems that your Media Center is not able to do this for official Blu-ray or DVD played directly from optical driver, and so lack of flexibility on this particular point, which is sad.
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Re: External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2012, 06:39:50 pm »

To make sure I understand, you're simply looking for a 'Browse...' subtitle menu choice?

This has not been a common request, but is something I think would be a reasonable addition.
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Re: External subtitles for Blu-ray or DVD.
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2012, 03:07:36 am »

To make sure I understand, you're simply looking for a 'Browse...' subtitle menu choice?

Yes it is exactly what I described. It is the simpler solution to face the case I described.

The best concept I've seen to add missing subtitles on the fly to retailed DVD was the one of the free-ware DVD SUBBER, 10 years ago. It offered the ability to create a specific profile for each DVD (called "Media ID" in the program) where you specified synchronized subtitles and so each time you played the DVD, automatically the program loaded the profile. And the profiles was sharable as the subtitles were encapsulated (*.ZDS files). The issue was the video quality as it didn't offer any functionality to customize the graph. It last version was in 2003 ( the middle-ages now :)) and no other software digs up more this great concept. So load external Subtitles during playback of retailed DVD or Blu-ray is the most common solution.

It will be great if you can add it, thanks!

I seen a lot of people complaining about missing Subtitles in their language regarding desirable Blu-ray or DVD edition in other country. It is one of the greatest advantage of the HTPC for me to have this ability to add on the fly Subtitles. Obviously, as you mentioned previously, I could rip them but I have between 75 and 100 Blu-ray concerned and the same for DVD so I don't want to lost 40 hours or more for an operation which have no real gain (I know that many people will be not agree on this statement).
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