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[ddennerline]

I have been actively to determine why WMP12 cannot play MC19 DNLA audio library. Both MediaMonkey and VideoLAN can access the audio library. I have disabled both firewalls and client/server machines. I have disabled the Windows Media playback server services to avoid any conflict.

If I access, Computer > Network, two different icons show up. The green icon when double-click brings up http://192.168.0.104:52101/WebRemote/. The second icon (blue music note in corner) when double-clicked starts WMP, but does not show any trace of the MC19 library. Even if I let WMP sit idle for a few minutes, no JRiver library icon shows up.

Is there some sort of DNLA Media Center 19 trace facility?

I tried to track down a DNLA protocol test tool. There are no public domain Windows tools except for the two tools above. The latest version of VideoLAN crashes, so I had to revert back to much older version.

It would be very helpful if MC19 had some sort of client (and server) UPnP/DNLA test tool to verify server configuration and operation.

Here is a Wireshark trace. Maybe this might ring a bell:

192.168.0.104 is the HTPC

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439 24.014517000 192.168.0.104 192.168.0.111 SSDP 418
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  EXT:  Server: Windows, UPnP/1.1 DLNADOC/1.50, JRiver/19 LOCATION: http://192.168.0.104:52100/DeviceDescription.xml
  ST: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1
  Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 03:40:59 GMT
  MYNAME: HTPC (JRiver)
  Cache-Control: max-age=1800
  USN: uuid:ab9fb22a-7c70-435b-9af8-f469420d586b::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1

449 24.547031000 192.168.0.104 224.0.0.252 IGMPv2 60 Membership Report group 224.0.0.252

Full TCP Session for one request:

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GET /upnphost/udhisapi.dll?content=uuid:14794eb6-8749-477e-85ab-38734e69e2e0 HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Microsoft-Windows-XP/2002, UPnP/1.1, JRiver Internet Reader/2.0 (compatible; Windows-Media-Player/10)
Icy-Metadata: 1
Host: 192.168.0.111:2869 

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Length: 2394
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
Server: Microsoft-Windows-NT/5.1 UPnP/1.0 UPnP-Device-Host/1.0 Microsoft-HTTPAPI/2.0
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 03:40:30 GMT
<?xml version="1.0"?> <root xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:device-1-0" xmlns:microsoft="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:WMPDMR-1-0">
...


[JimH]

In the second window, you have this:

Host: 192.168.0.111:2869 

That is using port 2869.  Did you change it?  MC usually uses 52199.  You can change it on the server under Media Network settings.

[ddennerline]

I didn't change any MC18 server default ports.

192.168.0.111:2869 is the SSDP service port for the WMP12 machine. MC18 is sending a GET request to the client/WMP12 machine. The GET response coming back is successful. I believe MC18 is trying to query the WMP12’s media repository.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc875824.aspx

I just reversed the DLNA setup and made HTPC/MC18 the client(renderer) and Client-PC/WMP12 the server. This setup does not work either. HTPC/WMP12 can play music from client-PC (192.168.0.111)

It’s almost like MC18 does not work with Windows Media services at all.

I double-checked that firewall is disabled which seems to be confirmed by all the successful connection activity.

I took a closer look at capture and noticed this request from client-PC (192.168.0.111) to MC18:

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1077 595.048491000 192.168.0.111 192.168.0.104 TCP 66 51237 > 52100 [SYN] Seq=0 Win=8192 Len=0 MSS=1460 WS=256 SACK_PERM=1

SUBSCRIBE /ConnectionManager/event HTTP/1.1
Cache-Control: no-cache
Connection: Close
Pragma: no-cache
User-Agent: Microsoft-Windows/6.1 UPnP/1.0
NT: upnp:event
Callback: <http://192.168.0.111:2869/upnp/eventing/yxiovebxmk>
Timeout: Second-1800
Host: 192.168.0.104:52101

HTTP/1.1 400 Windows Media event subscriptions are rejected because the callback always returns a 400 error when sending standard UPnP event information.
Server: Windows, UPnP/1.1 DLNADOC/1.50, JRiver/19
Connection: close
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 17:32:40 GMT


[ddennerline]

Has anybody gotten WMP12 on Window7 x64 to work with MC18 using DLNA? I am currently using MediaMonkey as client. Was this configuration ever tested.

[AndrewFG]

MC works fine with WMP.

In WMP you need to enable the three Upnp options allow others to see my library, see other libraries and allow others to control Wmp (something like that). Also you need to turn on media sharing in Windows Networking. And you may need to adjust your firewall settings too...

[ddennerline]

Thanks for response.

I disabled both client and server firewalls. In addition, I disabled the service:
Control Panel\System and Security\Administrative Tools\Computer Services\Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service.

I can use MediaMonkey as Renderer which uses a DLNA protocol. I thought that WMP12 can also be used as DLNA renderer.

Can you please explain more about why using WMP12 used as renderer would require any sharing options to be enabled? These sharing options are used by the Sharing Service above.

If I reenable the Sharing Service above and do the steps suggested, I can play music. In this case, MC18 is not being used. WMP12 and talking directly to the Sharing service.

Is there a JRiver DLNA tracing option available? I have downloaded and played around with Intel Developer for UPnP.

[JimH]

A device or software may work as a DLNA Server but not as a DLNA Renderer.

Make sure you have turned on Media Network in MC.

[ddennerline]

Yes, MC18 Media Network is enabled. I am successfully playing audio tracks with MediaMonkey/DLNA/DMP talking to MC18/DLNA/Media Server.  Why does MediaMonkey acting as DMP work correctly and WMP12 does not.

I was using the incorrect "renderer" DLNA terminology. A renderer is used for media push while DMP is pull.

Wikipedia DLNA:
(DMP): find content on digital media servers (DMS) and provide playback and rendering capabilities. Examples include TVs, stereos and home theaters, wireless monitors and game consoles.)_
I can post a packet capture from MediaMonkey session if necessary. MediaMonkey queries MC18 library and plays the track. WMP12 does not have the same kinds of request/response transactions to MC18.

Would it be possible please to:
1) Disable firewalls on MC18 Server and client WMP12 machines
2) Disable Windows Media Center Sharing service
3) Configure a MC18 “JRiver DLNA” servers
4) Startup WMP12. Does JRiver DLNA show up in the list of server?
5) Connect to “JRiver DLNA” and play a track located on JRiver DLNA Server.

[ddennerline]

To make the point clear, I installed MediaMonkey on HTPC as the Media Server. WMP12/DMP (client) can play tracks from MediaMonkey/HTPC out-of-the-box (with next to no configuration). I have attached picture for proof.

I am 99% sure I have setup MC18 correct as DLNA server otherwise MM running as DMP would not operate correctly.

Can someone at JRiver please tell me if MC18 as as Media Server has been thoroughly tested with Window Media Player 12 on Windows7 x64?

P.S. I have already paid for product, so I am not asking for a free support

[ddennerline]

Here is a screen shot of my MC18 DLNA configuration. I have enabled/disabled the two advanced DLNA flags. Toggling them does not make any difference.

[ddennerline]

Apologize for continuing to reference MM. I much prefer MC18 to MM, and that is why I purchased from JRiver. The challenge here is I cannot find a publicly available DMP test tool for Windows, so I need some DMP test client. Surprisingly, the choices are quite limited. VLC crashes when using DLNA.

I just want a very simple, but visually appealing Windows DLNA DMP. I don’t want to play any media from local filesystem – nor do I want to create a SMB share. All of my media is located on HTPC. I want to stream it from HTPC to various remote bedrooms where computers/laptops are running. JRiver Media Jukebox might suffice, but it doesn’t support DLNA. I don’t want to install MC18 as a client streaming device.

[AndrewFG]

In addition, I disabled the service:
Control Panel\System and Security\Administrative Tools\Computer Services\Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service.

Why ever did you do that? WMP network sharing is --well-- the service that WMP uses for sharing media over the network. If you disable this service its almost guaranteed that nothing will be shared.

[ddennerline]

Windows Media Sharing Service (WMSS) can be disabled as MC18 is now performing the Media Server function in DLNA.  Disabling WMSS service follows recommendations from post: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=84384.msg576397#msg576397.

WMP12 is the Media Player and MC18 is the Media Server. Windows sharing options are tied to WMSS. If you using MC18 Server, then I strongly suspect MC18 does not read any of those Windows specific options.

As mentioned in previous post, I can install MM as the server and WMP12 can play tracks from a different Windows machine.

[ddennerline]

The recommendation at http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Network also indicates that WMSS should be disabled.

[AndrewFG]

Look -- those recommendations are for people who want to prevent interaction between WMP and MC. But you are complaining because there is no interaction. So why dont you turn it on?

Indeed I wonder if you trying to be too smart with WMP. Normally WMP sharing just works. So perhaps you should try reinstalling WMP clean? If you think about it, that is more likely to solve an WMP problem than reinstalling MC would..