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Humbledore

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Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« on: March 29, 2015, 05:27:48 am »

Hi,
I have noticed that when I click on a field column arrow link, MC switches to the latest used view. Is there a way to always use a custom view?
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Arindelle

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 09:20:11 am »

Hi,
I have noticed that when I click on a field column arrow link, MC switches to the latest used view. Is there a way to always use a custom view?
Thanks!
that would be nice to set a default view to switch to ! +1
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Humbledore

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 04:08:06 am »

The more I use these arrow links the more annoyed I get that you can't choose the view that MC switch to. For example, I don't want different genres to be viewed when I click on a certain artist column (which happens if you have used the genre view), I want all the artist's tracks listed in a file details view.
Why is it designed this way?
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Humbledore

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2015, 04:10:02 pm »

Am I the only one that think this feature should get an update towards more customer friendly behavior? Because I use quite many library views, nine times of ten the displayed view rendered by a column link is (more or less) unsuitable. It's like a lottery...
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 05:03:06 pm »

Why is it designed this way?

It doesn't switch views at all. It searches within the view you're already in.
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 05:47:11 am »

It doesn't switch views at all. It searches within the view you're already in.

How do you mean? If I for example right now click on the artist column link from the Playing Now view MC switches to a genres album thumbnail view. And the genres view wasnt' even the last visited... it was the album view as well as the file details view.
But regardless of that, the behavior today is not what I expect/wish from these links. Switching to a custom/dedicated view would be much nicer...
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 08:37:01 am »

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 08:39:58 am »

How do you mean? If I for example right now click on the artist column link from the Playing Now view MC switches to a genres album thumbnail view.

Ah, yes.  If you're in Playing Now (or a Playlist, I guess), it'll take you to the top-level Audio view, which then will expand to whichever Audio view was last used.

If you're already in Audio (which is where I typically use it) then it doesn't have to switch views.
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 02:25:01 pm »

So why do I sometimes end up at a Genre view (or other views for that matter), which is NOT my top-level Audio view...?

To summing-up my experience: there seem to be difficult to pick the view you want to switch to when using arrow links, so why not offer a way to decide exactly the wiew you want, regardless of the view you have visited, or what you have as the top-level... Would be great! :-)

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 03:57:13 am »

So why do I sometimes end up at a Genre view (or other views for that matter), which is NOT my top-level Audio view...?

To summing-up my experience: there seem to be difficult to pick the view you want to switch to when using arrow links, so why not offer a way to decide exactly the wiew you want, regardless of the view you have visited, or what you have as the top-level... Would be great! :-)

Thanks for your response!  

as Glynor said it pops to the last opened Audio view -- that is what you should be thinking of. I use this all the time for tagging new records, when I know that I have already tagged the same artist before. I have a view just for tagging newly imported files; I have another pane view for "retagging" all audio files. I will open the retag view first, then the othe window, which allows you to jump where I want. You can do this in the same way from the Playing now view IF you remember to do so.

For information, these seem to be just shortcuts for the Locate command -- if you click right on a track =>Locate =Advanced you can choose any field to jump to. But it needs to know where to jump to. As each view could filter out what you are looking for, and everyone could have a different default view in mind, seems complicated.



These have been called "magic errors". I think they were coded so long ago and that we are lucky they work at all :D They don't seem to work well when you have the tab option set in views, if at all. And if you dig into the forum there have been other "requests" (search magic arrows?)..  I've always wanted to have arrows for Name too as I like to find different versions of songs often.

I just don't think its going to happen as they have been so many changes it would be a major overhaul  .. they don't like to break existing functionality, but I bet it would be hard to give these arrows any more options (how about composer and album artist ... then how about when the video people want them LOL)

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 05:09:08 pm »

Arindelle, many thanks for your extensive response! :-) I get the picture even though I still would like to have some more control of these links...

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more options (how about composer and album artist ...
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I've always wanted to have arrows for Name too as I like to find different versions of songs often
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 05:07:27 am »

@Humbledore -- here you go this will help ... thanks again Matt! https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=97830.msg676021#msg676021
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2015, 07:26:33 am »

@Humbledore -- here you go this will help ... thanks again Matt! https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=97830.msg676021#msg676021

Thanks Arindelle and Matt!
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2015, 04:42:12 pm »

Unfortunately the addition of Name and Composer to the locate menu root doesn't solve the main problem: that is, if you are using an Audio view that uses some kind of selection. For instance: I have an Audio view with a random selection and if that view is "active" you get the quite boring result of 'no search results' when using the Arrow links, even if there really are corresponding items in the library. So the question is: should really the Arrow links feature work in conjunction with every Audio view that is défined? I don't think so. The result can not be trusted.

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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2015, 06:41:14 pm »

For instance: I have an Audio view with a random selection and if that view is "active" you get the quite boring result of 'no search results' when using the Arrow links, even if there really are corresponding items in the library.

The Arrow Links do not search the entire Library. They search the current view (or most recently used Audio view, if you aren't in an Audio view).  That's what they do.

If you want them to search the whole Library, I understand, but they don't.
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Re: Custom view when clicking on column arrow link
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2015, 03:39:40 am »

The Arrow Links do not search the entire Library. They search the current view (or most recently used Audio view, if you aren't in an Audio view).  That's what they do.

If you want them to search the whole Library, I understand, but they don't.

I understand that, but that is also exactly why I want to changed the behavior; they should always search the whole library. Or at least, there should be a setting/option to choose that. Consider this: Suddenly MC plays an artist I want to hear more of, then the arrow link is the fastest way to locate all songs by this artist, right click (or hit enter depending on your config) > play next, and bang, there they are...  :D  
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