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sraymond

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OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« on: October 16, 2003, 03:11:09 pm »
Guys,

This is a bit off-topic, but I'm hoping someone knows the answer.  Why do transparent PNGs (rather PNGs with a transparent background) show a light blue background when viewed in IE6?  For example, King's avatar is a PNG with a transparent background (when viewed in Photoshop, for example) - but in my IE6 browser, it has a light blue background.

Is it just me?

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phelt

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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2003, 04:00:14 pm »
Because the IE implementation of PNG support is flawed. It probably won't ever be fixed since MS has said that they will not be developing future versions of IE for existing versions of Windows, and the PNG limitation problem has gone uncorrected for a long time.
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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2003, 04:18:31 pm »
Take a look at Moz FireBird and enjoy browsing the way it was meant to be. The only thing IE does better is FTP and of course...Windows Update. The optimized builds scream and are very stable. Trans PNG's look great.

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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2003, 05:01:32 pm »
I've been using Firebird for about a week or so now and it's easily the best browser I've ever touched.  Combined with squid and prioxy, I now enjoy an ad, annoyance, and pop-up free browsing existence.

Highly, highly recommended.
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sraymond

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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2003, 05:05:15 pm »
Quote from: xen-uno on October 16, 2003, 04:18:31 pm
Take a look at Moz FireBird and enjoy browsing the way it was meant to be. The only thing IE does better is FTP and of course...Windows Update. The optimized builds scream and are very stable. Trans PNG's look great.

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I'm sure I wouldn't disagree with you - but unfortunately, there are still a lot of benefits tied to IE.  I have some programs that "must" have IE to run (for example, Password Officer - the software I use to manage all my passwords and logins).  And then there's the whole MSXML thing.

I've learned to like IE *much* better with MyIE2 - which basically uses IE as a foundation but totally reworks the presentation.  But maybe I'll give FB a shot.

Thanks!

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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2003, 06:08:14 pm »
(Even more OT now!)

I've been using Opera on windows. (When on Linux it tends to be Mozilla, Galeon or Firebird depending on situations). For me Opera is a good middle ground, I get more control over tabs, blocked pop-ups, mouse-gestures etc. (which are the the major "must haves" for my browsing) yet it works for most of the "corner cases" where IE seems neccessary. Opera also allows you to "lie to the website" as to what the User Agent is. My problem with an IE based browser is simply that security and virus robustness is not there.  
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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2003, 06:16:52 pm »
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Opera also allows you to "lie to the website" as to what the User Agent is.

FB also has an extension that will allow you to do the same thing. I'm not sure what it's called, though.

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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2003, 06:23:15 pm »
Quote from: rocketsauce on October 16, 2003, 06:16:52 pm
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Opera also allows you to "lie to the website" as to what the User Agent is.

FB also has an extension that will allow you to do the same thing. I'm not sure what it's called, though.
Yeah, just found that - it's called "User Agent Switcher" (obviously I guess!). I'm playing with FB on windows right now! :)
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Re:OT: PNG tansparent backgrounds
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2003, 09:19:20 am »
FYI: Your almost guaranteed to have Java installation problems with Firebird. Therefore...

1) Install JRE 1.4.2.1 (available here ...click on the install link)
2) Close Firebird and then open Notepad (or any plain text editor)
3) Copy & paste the following into it...

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Mozilla\Mozilla Firebird]
"GeckoVer"="1.0.1"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Mozilla\Mozilla Firebird\bin]
"PathToExe"="d:\\Firebird\\MozillaFirebird.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Mozilla\Mozilla Firebird\Extensions]
"Plugins"="d:\\Firebird\\Plugins"
"Components"="d:\\Firebird\\Components"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\mozilla.org\Mozilla]
"CurrentVersion"="1.0"

***replace all occurances of d:\\Firebird with your path (ie c:\\Program Files\\MozillaFirebird)***

4) Save the file as Firebird.reg
5) Now run Firebird.reg
6) Restart Firebird
7) Go here and pick Other Applets (ie Bubbles) to test

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