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Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« on: February 22, 2016, 08:41:25 am »

21.0.48: Trying to change Artist and Album from UPPERCASE to Upper Case All Words will only change the library but not the file tag.
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Re: Fix capitalization under Clean File properties not working
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 08:44:41 am »

I can't reproduce.  I set the artist to "SARAH JAROSZ" for a file.  It wrote to the tag and I confirmed.  Then I ran the tool to uppercase all words and it switched to "Sarah Jarosz" and the tag got updated.
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Re: Fix capitalization under Clean File properties not working
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 09:41:15 am »

21.0.48: Trying to change Artist and Album from UPPERCASE to Upper Case All Words will only change the library but not the file tag.

What kind of file?  Do you have the option set to write changes to the file tags?

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Re: Fix capitalization under Clean File properties not working
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 11:34:52 am »

The Files are ALAC (m4a).

Are you referring to here as per the snapshot?
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Re: Fix capitalization under Clean File properties not working
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 11:39:06 am »

ALAC should be supported for reading and writing tags, as far as I know.

The switch that turns writing on and off though, is here:

Tools > Options > General > Importing & Tagging > Update tags when file info changes

With that checked, all tag changes *should* write to the files.  If you have files that aren't "synced" to the file tags, you can attempt to write them with:

(select some files)<right click> Library Tools > Update tags (from library)

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Re: Fix capitalization under Clean File properties not working
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 01:20:36 pm »

This option is checked and it's still not writing the tags.

I did some more tests on this and just changing the capitalization will not update the tags but only the library.
If I just add a character or delete the album tag completely then it will work.  This behaviour was a 100% consistent with different albums so something is not right.

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Re: Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 01:22:29 pm »

Changed the title as the problem applies to writing Tags no matter where from.
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Re: Fix capitalization under Clean File properties not working
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 01:54:12 pm »

I did some more tests on this and just changing the capitalization will not update the tags but only the library.

Switching the capitalization of a field for my APE files causes the tags to get written no problem.

Ideas?
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Re: Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2016, 02:11:06 pm »

check the fields themselves .. normally Artist and Album are set to write to the files by default , but double check that "Save in File tags when possible is checked (see screenshot) Options=>Library &Folders=> Manage Library fields

Just in case this is the cause bear in mind that the change will only write the modified tags to the file after you set or reset this option. If you have made prior changes you might have to use Library Tools =>Update File tags from Library on selected tracks before what is shown in the library will actually be written to the file itself.

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Re: Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2016, 10:40:30 pm »

Both Fields are checked. If you try with an Alac file can you reproduce?
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Re: Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 04:10:25 am »

Both Fields are checked. If you try with an Alac file can you reproduce?
Yes I can reproduce the issue.

I THink Imeric is on to something Matt. Converted FLAC to ALAC. Changed capitalization using library tool and manually. Checkd from tagging on client and directly on machine running media server. The capitalization change is not written to the ALAC file. The change if performed to a FLAC file is written to the file, however.



The only work around I found was converting the alac files to flac then reconverting them back to ALAC, which although still lossless, seems sort of silly

Observation: in the FLAC tag dump, all fields are indicated in ALL CAPS. Whereas as you can see from the S.S., they are in title case for the ALAC file (not that this matters, just noticed is all)

Oh another thing unrelated but is interesting to me .... a long time ago all of my folders were in caps, over the years I have changed them all to title case. Regardless of reimporting with the external change option checked, the filename (path) field is not updated and stays with all caps. You have to manually change the library tag. This doesn't matter with windows playback fo course, but I was thinking it might for Linux. Just putting this out there as there may be a need to make sure case changes are made both to the library and to the file tags (multi-platform use?). Haven't checked on other fields but as case changes are not being written back to ALAC files, seems like external case changes to tags on FLAC files might not be updating the library files. Does this matter really? not sure ... like if other NASs like QNAP become available for a direct install? Or using a mixed newtork of Linux, windows, and MAC.   
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Re: Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2016, 07:30:38 am »

I was sure able to reproduce it with ALAC files.

Next build:
Fixed: Case-only changes wouldn't get written to M4A/ALAC tags.
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Re: Changing capitalization ONLY will not update the file Tag
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2016, 07:33:56 am »

Thanks Folks!!! ;)
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