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Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« on: June 21, 2003, 04:02:09 pm »

I was think about changing a part of my MP3 collection from 320 to VBR but it seems that MC has some trouble with reading VBR files. It plays fine and all but displays the DURATION & BITRATE wrong.

Example:

For a 4 minute song the duration would be 30 minutes
For the bitrate it would display 32

Was wondering if this is a bug of some kind or MC just has trouble reading this correctly because it's VBR? ?
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2003, 04:41:44 pm »

If it is it is a New Bug

I always use VBR and it has always been correct.
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2003, 12:09:50 am »

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I was think about changing a part of my MP3 collection from 320 to VBR...


Hopefully, you mean by reripping from the original CDs. Converting MP3 to MP3 will produce inferior sounding files.

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It plays fine and all but displays the DURATION & BITRATE wrong.


Most likely the the files have corrupt or missing VBR headers. Some ripping/encoding programs don't write the headers correctly or at all. I have a friend who uses Musicmatch to encode MP3s he shares with me and there are usually a few files out of every batch that have this problem.

You can repair them using VBRfix:

http://www.willwap.co.uk/Programs/vbrfix.html

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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2003, 03:34:55 am »

Yeah, 80 % of my collection is Lame VBR and I have never seen that on them. I have seen it on a few downloaded files, though, and they had the same error when shown in the P2P app, in other words low bitrate and very long duration.  8)
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2003, 04:19:57 am »

there are a few programs that will repair VBR headers.

http://www.magnusbrading.com/mp3ts/
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2003, 07:16:41 am »

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Hopefully, you mean by reripping from the original CDs. Converting MP3 to MP3 will produce inferior sounding files.


Yup...I'm reripping them. I'm trying to make some space on my hard disk. Seem that VBR is about 40% smaller and sounds good ;D.

VBRFix & MP3 Tag Studio did the trick...thanks for the help ;D
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2003, 07:30:21 am »

Just out of curiousity, what version of MC and the MP3 encoder are you using? There was a bug with this quite a while ago that did get fixed. Had the same deal where files were being reported in this way.
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2003, 12:46:39 pm »

Here's the info you wanted:

Media Center Version 9.1.203
Ripper: MusicMatch Jukebox
Encoder: Fraunhofer
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2003, 01:46:20 pm »

Maybe, just for your own benefit, you should use MC and its encoder, Lame 3.93.1 and see what happens. Lame is slower, but is higher quality. Judge for yourself.

Or even EAC and Lame. You probably will not find much difference in rip quality unless you have a very difficult cd to rip

MM can still be used for its tagging abilities which many here like.

Can't hurt, can it?
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Re: Does MC Have Trouble with VBR?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2003, 07:38:58 pm »

I'll try MC's ripper ;D

I mostly use MMJ's ripper 'cause I spent $60 :'( for a life time upgrade and feel that it would be a waste of money to not use it for something. ;D

I always thought there wasn't that big of a difference between Lame & Fraunhofer.

For the super tagging in MMJ, I'm getting mixed results...I've been testing it with about 10 albums and half are ok (needs some editing), 3 needed alot of editing, and the other 2 need very little editing. I'm pretty picky about how I tag my music and might be easier if I just do it with MC.
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