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[rossp]

Hi all, Can MC24 rip TV shows from DVS's that are not DRM'ed? I have just bought my wife 'The Mod Squad' and wanted a way to rip them and scrape all the TV info etc. Handbrake can rip them but does not scrape and all the information has to be added manually.

Ross

[tij]

Yes ... it can

For protected dvds you need third party apps like AnyDVD

[rossp]

It looks like MC just rips the whole DVD and does not split them up by title / episode.
Any way to do that with MC.
 
Ross

[tij]

I know MC can rip unprotected disc ... but never tried it myself

I use makemkv most of time ... it’s free for dvd (including protected ones)  ... small fee for Blu-ray

[muzicman0]

MakeMKV is free right now even for bluray, you just have to go to their forums and use the provided key.  It's a bit of a pain, since it expires each month, but the developer is providing the functionality free for now.  I just book marked the forum post, and go back when I need to, to get the new key.

[rossp]

This would be a good feature for MC, I don't know of any other S/W that does this. It already has all the tools, just needs to get them all lined up and a process
 created.

Maybe:

1) If title less than 120 seconds ignore
2) If title more than 3 hours ignore
3) Ask for first title series / season details
4) Populate the rest
5) Select rip profile or use the default
6) Rip the titles
7) Get Movie and TV info
8 ) Rename Move & Copy to the correct location
9) Analyse audio

This would be very nice.

Should only take Matt 1/2 hour

Ross

[tij]

It’s not as easy as you think ... ripping TV shows from dvd and Blu-ray is one of the daunting task ... episodes are short enough that can be mixed up with extra features ... often actual names of files give no clue to what episode it is

I usually rip episodes first (can tell by numer of chapters and length of video and lossless tracks) ... then have to watch each rip a bit to determine episode number ... then rename file ... then copy to proper location ... then scan that location with MC

PS. Ripping movies can be confusing too ... sometime there are multiple movie version available in single disk ... Pixar likes to include localized versions in one disk (eg each version has signs throughout movie rendered in local languages) ... sometimes one disk includes directors cut version too (Aliens, Troy)

PSS. so automatically doing this is ... hmmm ... impossible?

[rossp]

But a DVD player can work out what title is which episode! So I would expect MC to be able to.

Ross

[tij]

DVD player use menus that were provided with DVD … those menus were created by people that knew layout of DVD … so they can author those menu to look "cool" (eg. episode thumbnails are actually animated … you would think DVD is scaling actual videos down to present you with this nice feature … but in reality there are small short clips already present on DVD just for that purpose)

So its not like DVD player is smart enough to generating those menu in real time based on file structure of the DVD … those were "hard coded" into DVD (hence a lot of ppl like MC to be able to "play" DVD/Bluray menus … PS. I am not one of those ppl lol)

[rossp]

Thanks for the info. I had no idea the whole thing was so archaic.

Ross

[rossp]

So I'm still not giving up.

MC can give us a list of the titles and we can rip the ones we select. We can then tag them etc and scrape the info. At the moment it rips to one big  video file.

Ross

[tij]

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DVD_Ripping

looks like MC is ripping in folder structure (basically copy whole disk ... that would be VOB files for DVD) ... if you like DVD menus, those get copied too

if you want rip of individual episodes as separate self contained files (avi, mkv, mp4) ... MC is not right tool to use

Personally, i went MKV rout ... as this format can include multiple audio and subtitles tracks ... plus it support MVC 3D ... MakeMKV is my ripping tool ... because it remux disks to MKV (ie does not alter quality of video and audio)

I highly doubt MC developers will allocate limited resources to do what other free tools can do already well

[rossp]

But makemkv does not do much for you apart from the ripping. It does not scrape any information, give you any real options for video quality, move the final files etc.

MC could do a much better job.

Ross

[tij]

If you don't like internal MC24 ripping ... you rip with other tool (eg makeMKV)  ... then import to your media software management (MC 24) for scraping and then viewing

Ripping can be made as complex as it can be ... ability to rip to different containers (mkv, mp4, mt2s, etc) ... reencode video to different codec (H.265, H.264, etc) ... reencode audio to different codec (mp3, flac, DTS HDMA, DD, etc) ... remap audio channel (2.0, 1.0, 5.1, etc) ... edit subtitles ... join 2 part of same episode into one file ... add audio track from different source ... add additional subtitle track

The list goes on ... and there are free tools to do this ... so I don't see MC trying to become the best ripping solution ... they provide the basic function ... if its not enough, use other free tools


Its not like I am against the whole idea ... but given limited resources they have ... I would rather see that spend on more urgent issues

But makemkv does not do much for you apart from the ripping. It does not scrape any information, give you any real options for video quality, move the final files etc.

but that's what it was specifically designed to do. and reason it does not give option for video or audio quality because it rips at original quality ... aka bit perfect
 (it can drop out unwanted foreign audio and subtitle tracks)

if you want to make your files smaller at expense of quality (like what mp3 do to music) ... there are other tools ... handbreak is one of those tools