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twotinears

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ripping encrypted dvds
« on: December 03, 2018, 11:23:39 am »

For personal use, I need to rip encrypted DVDs and then copy them VHS tape.
Does anyone have a suggestion for a program that will accomplish this?
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Re: ripping encripted dvds
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 11:48:46 am »

Simply put, there's AnyDVD (a paid application), DVDFab (I believe there's both a free and paid application) or MakeMKV (free for DVDs) for ripping encrypted DVDs. MakeMKV is what I use, but it won't rip an image of a DVD, meaning no menus are anything like that, just the movie content itself (and bonus features, ripped as separate files).

As for copying ripped DVDs to VHS... not even sure this is possible (or feasible for that matter) as I've never heard of anyone trying to do this. I would imagine it's not easy, time consuming and to be honest kinda pointless, in my opinion.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 12:25:53 pm »

Thanks for the suggestions.  Converting to VHS is an odd project but my brother, who has some limitations, refuses to use DVDs.  I am trying to figure out how to get more up to date movies for him to watch.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 12:30:57 pm »

Once I get an unprotected DVD I propose to play it on a DVD player connected to the VCR via SVideo cable.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 12:47:31 pm »

You are over complicating things. Get a dvd player with rca out, get a vcr with rca in, plug the dvd player into the vcr, play the dvd and press record on the vcr. Basically the same way you record vhs to vhs.

An important thing to remember when recording to vhs is to run out of tape before the movie is finished. That way the viewer can make up their own ending in their imagination. It's also a good idea to splice in some old horrible commercials, they are usually more entertaining than the film. The final secret to recording vhs is to skip a 15 minute section in the middle of the film.

Good luck.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 12:58:36 pm »

If I recall correctly (it's been a LONG while since I've used VHS or did any VHS recording so I might be wrong) there was issues recording/dubbing DVDs to VHS due to the Macrovision copy protection.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 01:20:26 pm »

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If I recall correctly (it's been a LONG while since I've used VHS or did any VHS recording so I might be wrong) there was issues recording/dubbing DVDs to VHS due to the Macrovision copy protection

I think you are correct, but it's only with newer VCRs. 1998 I believe is the year that the US made it mandatory. I think the copy protection just made the image look bad you can buy image stabilizers to prevent it.

I'm curious if you could use an HDMI to rca adapter to record from PC without issue.

Might be easier to hide a NUC in the vcr and play from that.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 03:45:24 pm »

I thought the Macrovision would be from the DVD side, and it'd kick in if you're trying to record a DVD to VHS? It's been so long since I remotely did any of that stuff.

I mean, if you rip a DVD (which would be unprotected) to a MKV, burn that to a DVD-R then use that in a DVD player to VHS recorder, that might work but don't quote me on that. :P But I'd imagine if you tried it directly (DVD player to VHS recorder) Macrovision would ruin/prevent it - not sure if Macrovision would "kick in" when playing an unprotected burned DVD-R and recording that to VHS or not.

I do think there's hardware solutions to removing Macrovision on-the-fly, which would allow your method (DVD player to VHS recorder) to work. Might want to look into that twotinears, since that'd probably be easier and quicker.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 04:10:54 pm »

Thanks for the suggestions.  Converting to VHS is an odd project but my brother, who has some limitations, refuses to use DVDs.  I am trying to figure out how to get more up to date movies for him to watch.

Would he consider using a USB stick or a USB hard drive, with ripped movies on them? Or perhaps you could plug either into his TV without his knowledge, told him you had loaded up all his VHS tapes, and he simply needed to select the movie he wanted in the TV App? Of course, a smart TV, or a player of some sort would be required, but most modern DVD or Blu-ray players allow playback of video from a USB device, and they could play to any reasonably modern TV.

Or is he limited to putting the large VHS cartridge into the VCR, and nothing else is acceptable? Perhaps explore those options. Everyone can learn new tricks when it is interesting and easy.
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 05:21:18 pm »

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

I am going to try the S video cable first. 
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Re: ripping encrypted dvds
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2018, 10:59:49 am »

You are over complicating things. Get a dvd player with rca out, get a vcr with rca in, plug the dvd player into the vcr, play the dvd and press record on the vcr. Basically the same way you record vhs to vhs.

An important thing to remember when recording to vhs is to run out of tape before the movie is finished. That way the viewer can make up their own ending in their imagination. It's also a good idea to splice in some old horrible commercials, they are usually more entertaining than the film. The final secret to recording vhs is to skip a 15 minute section in the middle of the film.

Good luck.

Dude, nailed it. I spit out my coffee when I read this.
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