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[jdolecki]

When JRiver goes to play a file that on a NAS or a remote disc does it play the file direct from storage.

Or does it copy the file into the computer and then plays it?

I'm new at this that why I'm asking.

I'm trying to figure out how fast of a connection between the NAS and the Computer i need.
1gb or 10 gb ethernet??

thanks for you help

[The Big Labinski]

@jdolecki, its playing directly from the storage (NAS) - 1gBit ethernet is more than fast enough.

[dartinbout]

Hi,
I'd like to think 1Gb is fast enough but I have stuttering. occasionally, on very high bitrate files. How does loading file\albums directly into memory vs loading decoded files into memory work. I sometimes feel I'd like a larger buffer to play with. Can this be done from a a command line? I have 32G of DDR3 loaded with a 100G dedicated swap file.drive SSD.

[sygnus21]

Hi,
I'd like to think 1Gb is fast enough but I have stuttering. occasionally, on very high bitrate files. How does loading file\albums directly into memory vs loading decoded files into memory work. I sometimes feel I'd like a larger buffer to play with. Can this be done from a a command line? I have 32G of DDR3 loaded with a 100G dedicated swap file.drive SSD.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "loading file\albums directly into memory vs loading decoded files into memory work" but you could easily download the files and have the played locally on your machine. This would eliminate the stuttering issue you have. 

I myself have a WD NAS that's hooked up via ethernet cable. However I've got my music collection in two places - locally on my PC, and a backup copy on my NAS. When I'm home I listen to my music locally. When I'm out and about (and using Plex) I access from my NAS. In this scenario I get the best of both world where I can get clean uninterrupted music play, but having the files on my NAS gives me the option to access my music remotely.

I've noticed the same as you - that listening to my music from the NAS through Media Center can be problematic at times because data transmission is dependent on network traffic. Listening to my files locally eliminates that issue. And I can tell you adding memory or a faster SSD isn't going to help because the file aren't local.

All that said my suggestion is to look towards Media Network under options in Media Center and have a look at the audio conversion options. See if changing anything helps. Outside of that, its always best to have the files played locally for the best quality sound.

My two cents.

[astromo]

For audio:
  Tools > Options > Memory playback (not zone specific): <Selection>
where <Selection> = user selected alternative

Check it out.

I'm not aware of anything similar for video.

I watch 1080p video via 1Gb/s router with Cat 6 cable from a NAS, no problem. I'm sure you could do it with less but margin is often a good thing.

[The Big Labinski]

Just for your information, I play 4K videos with Dolby Digital+ sound over the network without any problems.
This may not help regarding the situation of jdolecki, but it shows that 1Gbit ethernet is fast enough.

[sygnus21]

Just for your information, I play 4K videos with Dolby Digital+ sound over the network without any problems.
This may not help regarding the situation of jdolecki, but it shows that 1Gbit ethernet is fast enough.

You still can not ignore net traffic or other interferences that may arise from playing media over the internet. The fact that you claim to have never had an issue is nice, but hat's not always typical (never having an issue). And BTW my router and NAS both use Gbit ethernet cables and I get slowdowns with my music play at times. Not a lot, but still...

[wer]

Just a PSA for anyone with stuttering issues when playing back over the network:

Gigabit ethernet is approximately 1000 times faster than necessary to transmit uncompressed CD quality audio.  Actual need is less since it is the compressed file (flac/ape/mp3) that is transferred not the uncompressed signal.

Gigabit ethernet is 20 times faster than needed for bluray playback and about 10 times faster than needed for 4k bluray.

If someone is having stuttering issues, they are most likely due to server/NAS performance, or network congestion.

You should consider either:
1. Eliminating performance issues on your server or NAS
2. Implement QOS in your home router to ensure sufficient bandwidth is reserved for your a/v transfer needs when the network becomes congested.

As long as you are on a wired network, any such issues are correctable and you need not live with them.  If you're using wifi, get used to the occasional stutter. 

[The Big Labinski]

Thanks wer, very good explanation.

[sygnus21]

Just a PSA for anyone with stuttering issues when playing back over the network:

Gigabit ethernet is approximately 1000 times faster than necessary to transmit uncompressed CD quality audio.  Actual need is less since it is the compressed file (flac/ape/mp3) that is transferred not the uncompressed signal.

Gigabit ethernet is 20 times faster than needed for bluray playback and about 10 times faster than needed for 4k bluray.

If someone is having stuttering issues, they are most likely due to server/NAS performance, or network congestion.

You should consider either:
1. Eliminating performance issues on your server or NAS
2. Implement QOS in your home router to ensure sufficient bandwidth is reserved for your a/v transfer needs when the network becomes congested.

As long as you are on a wired network, any such issues are correctable and you need not live with them.  If you're using wifi, get used to the occasional stutter. 

One other suggestion is adding more memory if possible. When I got my WD (Western Digital) NAS I upped the memory from 4 to 16 gig (max). If your NAS allows for more memory do so as it helps with overall performance.

[newsposter]

'stuttering' can come from your router just as easily as it can from a NAS or the playback device itself.

Some routers that have gigE interfaces are not structured internally to properly handle that level of traffic.

[NorthGeorgiaWX]

Just a PSA for anyone with stuttering issues when playing back over the network:

Gigabit ethernet is approximately 1000 times faster than necessary to transmit uncompressed CD quality audio.  Actual need is less since it is the compressed file (flac/ape/mp3) that is transferred not the uncompressed signal.

Gigabit ethernet is 20 times faster than needed for bluray playback and about 10 times faster than needed for 4k bluray.

If someone is having stuttering issues, they are most likely due to server/NAS performance, or network congestion.

You should consider either:
1. Eliminating performance issues on your server or NAS
2. Implement QOS in your home router to ensure sufficient bandwidth is reserved for your a/v transfer needs when the network becomes congested.

As long as you are on a wired network, any such issues are correctable and you need not live with them.  If you're using wifi, get used to the occasional stutter. 

And it could be issues on the PC that's trying to play the music. I doubt seriously it's network traffic. I would suspect other processes running on the local computer first. I would load task manager and watch that while you play music. Check for any task that is hogging the CPU. Check the CPU/network graphs.