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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2022, 06:56:49 pm »

This is very cool! I just downloaded it and am testing.

I will only use this for audio. I have a question. I use many smartlists. If I select 'download" a second time, will your app download the whole smartlist again, or only those songs that have changes (basically, will is sync)? Will it remove local tracks that are no longer in the smartlist?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2022, 08:14:03 am »

I use many smartlists. If I select 'download" a second time, will your app download the whole smartlist again, or only those songs that have changes (basically, will is sync)? Will it remove local tracks that are no longer in the smartlist?

It will only download the new tracks but will keep the ones that are no longer in the smartlist.  I was considering adding some cleanup function but have not got around to it yet.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2022, 09:28:52 am »

Thanks for the reply. In a perfect world, I would love to be able to somehow mark a playlist in MO 4Media as "keep local", then press one button and have the app sync all the playlists. If there are more than 150 tracks to download, the app should just loop through the 150 download queue until all tracks are downloaded. After that, the clean up function would run to remove any tracks that should be removed. All this in a perfect world :-)

One more question. If I have the same track in two (or more) off-line playlists, does it download and store that track multiple times?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2022, 01:45:53 pm »

One more question. If I have the same track in two (or more) off-line playlists, does it download and store that track multiple times?

It just downloads and shares one copy.  I should clarify about the playlist sync: it just maintains a copy of the tracks on disc if they are no longer in the playlist, but the local playlist is updated to not contain those tracks (it does not try to play them).
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2022, 03:18:13 pm »

It just downloads and shares one copy.  I should clarify about the playlist sync: it just maintains a copy of the tracks on disc if they are no longer in the playlist, but the local playlist is updated to not contain those tracks (it does not try to play them).

Excellent! Any chance of implementing a loop on the download queue to repeat until all the tracks are downlaoded?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2022, 02:48:20 pm »

Any chance of implementing a loop on the download queue to repeat until all the tracks are downlaoded?

I will think about it.  How many tracks are you trying to download?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2022, 07:56:44 pm »

I will think about it.  How many tracks are you trying to download?

thousands.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2022, 02:58:44 pm »

v1.5.4 is now available with a few minor changes.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2022, 08:02:25 am »

v1.5.4 is now available with a few minor changes.

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2022, 07:23:52 pm »

I’m loving the CarPlay integration, though it’s too bad there is a limitation on the depth of lists. I’ve worked through that by leveraging the Auto folder but in that mode Playlists don’t show up; any chance this could be addressed?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2022, 08:42:34 am »

You just need to add a Playlists item to Auto in the Customize Views dialog which is one of the options in the dropdown.  You can also add a specific playlist or playlist group.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2022, 07:45:21 am »

Thanks!

I did not forget about your request.  I plan to add an option to remove the track download limit.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2022, 09:29:33 am »

You just need to add a Playlists item to Auto in the Customize Views dialog which is one of the options in the dropdown.  You can also add a specific playlist or playlist group.

When I try this (MC29) I'm unable to subsequently nest the Playlists folder under Auto; it only wants to live at the root..!  Nest is greyed out when Playlists is selected.

EDIT: Oh!  Figured it out.  Had to add a Library item and then select a Playlist Group for it to be nestable.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2022, 05:08:31 pm »

v1.5.5 is available which has an option to remove the file download limit.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2022, 05:38:27 pm »

Very often when playing in CarPlay mode from a playlist (Whether online or offline) when 1 track finishes it skips to the end of the next track (Last few seconds or less) instead of the beginning of the next track. 

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2022, 06:53:58 pm »

A few questions:

I believe I read this will download from your server for offline play and the limit is able to be set over 1000 files.
So, I can download files via a playlist, save it to my iphone and play it back via Carplay without access to internet (or server)?

Or, if I do have access to the server via internet or local, I can control the server and stream to my iphone.

Also, does this app allow for crossfading of songs?

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2022, 09:56:31 pm »

A few questions:

I believe I read this will download from your server for offline play and the limit is able to be set over 1000 files.
So, I can download files via a playlist, save it to my iphone and play it back via Carplay without access to internet (or server)?

Or, if I do have access to the server via internet or local, I can control the server and stream to my iphone.

Also, does this app allow for crossfading of songs?

After downloading and playing with this a bit....
Are WAVE and MP3 the only download options and is FLAC download being considered?
Are there plans to add crossfade option with selectable duration?

Basically, I want to download several playlists to phone in same format as on server (flac) and be able to play without internet offline through Carplay.

At the moment, I am using Plexamp to achieve this but must also maintain an audio database in Plex.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2022, 12:21:25 pm »

After downloading and playing with this a bit....
Are WAVE and MP3 the only download options and is FLAC download being considered?
Are there plans to add crossfade option with selectable duration?

Basically, I want to download several playlists to phone in same format as on server (flac) and be able to play without internet offline through Carplay.

At the moment, I am using Plexamp to achieve this but must also maintain an audio database in Plex.
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If conversion option is turned off for the zone you are downloading from then it will download in whatever the original format is.  You have probably turned on conversion and set it to Wav if you are getting Wav files.

+1 on the request for cross fading.

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2022, 01:36:33 pm »

Thanks,
Yes, I added flac as file not to convert and the songs downloaded very quickly unlike when convert was on.
But, when playing the songs, it says they are 320bps MP3 files??
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2022, 01:53:25 pm »

Yes, I added flac as file not to convert and the songs downloaded very quickly unlike when convert was on.
But, when playing the songs, it says they are 320bps MP3 files??

Go to the Settings | Downloads and delete all the downloads.  Go to Settings | Playback/Conversions and make sure you have Downloads Audio selected for the context and toggle on Disable conversion.  Save the settings and try your download again.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2022, 02:04:47 pm »

Very often when playing in CarPlay mode from a playlist (Whether online or offline) when 1 track finishes it skips to the end of the next track (Last few seconds or less) instead of the beginning of the next track.

This may happen if you have "Use audio bookmarks" enabled and did not listen to the track all the way through on your last playback.  Just press back once and it will start from the beginning.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2022, 02:29:18 pm »

Go to the Settings | Downloads and delete all the downloads.  Go to Settings | Playback/Conversions and make sure you have Downloads Audio selected for the context and toggle on Disable conversion.  Save the settings and try your download again.

Did as suggested, downloaded 2 new (different) flac files via app to phone, still shows MP3 info in Playing Now and Audio Path.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2022, 02:41:05 pm »

Did as suggested, downloaded 2 new (different) flac files via app to phone, still shows MP3 info in Playing Now and Audio Path.

Did you switch to the "Go Offline" server after download?
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« Reply #74 on: May 24, 2022, 02:50:34 pm »

Go to the Settings | Downloads and delete all the downloads.  Go to Settings | Playback/Conversions and make sure you have Downloads Audio selected for the context and toggle on Disable conversion.  Save the settings and try your download again.

Missed changing from Wifi to Download.... thanks, now showing flac.
Now to play with it a bit more and for me, only missing crossfade.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2022, 02:56:21 pm »

Now to play with it a bit more and for me, only missing crossfade.

I will look into crossfade, but don't currently have plans to add it anytime soon.  Sorry.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2022, 03:11:00 pm »

I will look into crossfade, but don't currently have plans to add it anytime soon.  Sorry.

Not a deal breaker!  :)
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2022, 05:19:55 pm »

This may happen if you have "Use audio bookmarks" enabled and did not listen to the track all the way through on your last playback.  Just press back once and it will start from the beginning.
I will look at that.  But in all reality it should only save such a setting for the last played song.  not for every song you may have skipped or where the server disconnected or whatever...  It seems to happen to me quite often and also often for 3 or 4 songs in a row.  I don't skip that many songs in my playlists when listening.

Please change it to only remember for the last playing song.

Edit:  I can see where this might be useful for audio books or something to have multiple books remembering where you are in the book.  But not more than the last song for music items.

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« Reply #78 on: May 25, 2022, 07:39:06 am »

Please change it to only remember for the last playing song.

Sorry, I don't plan to change this behavior.  It has been working well for a while now allowing you to pick up at the same spot on a different device.  You can easily disable this setting to have it always start from the beginning.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #79 on: May 25, 2022, 11:44:45 am »

Hi, new user here, I purchased the app last week mainly for offline use while traveling.  I downloaded a playlist and a variety of Albums. Things were working fine for a few days using Bluetooth in the car. Yesterday we got a rental car that had CarPlay and I hooked up my iPhone to it. I could not get anything to play. Now it appears that the music files have been deleted from my phone. The file names are still there but there is no music files.  ?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2022, 11:43:55 am »

Why is there a 1 time purchase option for Android and not for Apple?

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2022, 12:06:28 pm »

Pretty sure it's down to Apple's App Store restrictions and guidelines. Google's Play Store is more flexible with its options for subscriptions and one-time purchases.

Apple app developers also have a $99 fee they have to pay yearly, so having subscriptions over one-time purchases makes sense.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2022, 01:21:01 pm »

A 1-time purchase was not available for Android for quite a while.  I only added it because people stated they were totally against subscriptions (even though it is less than $10 per year) and I kind of now regret adding that option.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2022, 01:27:53 pm »

Yesterday we got a rental car that had CarPlay and I hooked up my iPhone to it. I could not get anything to play. Now it appears that the music files have been deleted from my phone. The file names are still there but there is no music files.  ?

I will have to check that this is still working but are you sure you have the "Offline" server selected in the main app?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2022, 01:55:10 pm »

A 1-time purchase was not available for Android for quite a while.  I only added it because people stated they were totally against subscriptions (even though it is less than $10 per year) and I kind of now regret adding that option.

I am totally against subscriptions.  I ended up paying for 1 year to test it out.  But if a permanent non subscription price does not become available before the renewal date I will not be renewing again.  In all honesty I regretted purchasing the subscription immediately as the program was quite buggy at the time and I did not even get to use it for about 3 months or so. I only recently took another look at it and though it is better than it was it is still not worth it for me to be paying for it forever.

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« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2022, 02:56:31 pm »

I am totally against subscriptions.  I ended up paying for 1 year to test it out.  But if a permanent non subscription price does not become available before the renewal date I will not be renewing again.

I'm sorry to hear that.  I would recommend you ask for a refund from Apple because I have no plans to make a 1-time purchase available.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #86 on: May 28, 2022, 08:11:44 am »

just downloaded and will play with it today. Thank you for taking the time to develop!!!!

Curious, is there any way to get a Alpha select (large library) -like A,B,C... to select artist or a scroll bar to advance?

I think I currently have to flip through screens to advance the list.  Imagine 4 TB an you want to get to YES.
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« Reply #87 on: May 28, 2022, 07:30:54 pm »

I will have to check that this is still working but are you sure you have the "Offline" server selected in the main app?

Yes, is says “Offline” at the top. When I go to Library the album covers appear but there are no files there. What could cause this?
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« Reply #88 on: May 28, 2022, 09:26:26 pm »

Curious, is there any way to get a Alpha select (large library) -like A,B,C... to select artist or a scroll bar to advance?

Tap the search icon at the top right of the list.  There are two modes that you can toggle with the button before the search box.  "Jump To" scrolls to the first item starting with the letters you type.  "Filter" shows just items that contain the letters you type.
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« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2022, 09:30:47 pm »

Yes, is says “Offline” at the top. When I go to Library the album covers appear but there are no files there. What could cause this?

What does it show when you go to Settings | Downloads?
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« Reply #90 on: May 30, 2022, 07:11:12 pm »

What does it show when you go to Settings | Downloads?

It shows the file names but the files aren’t there.  I suspect that they are there but the app can’t see them.
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« Reply #91 on: May 31, 2022, 07:10:47 am »

It shows the file names but the files aren’t there.  I suspect that they are there but the app can’t see them.

Sorry, I am not sure why this may have happened but you can update each download from that screen.  Tap the 3-dot menu for each download group and select update/refresh.  It should be pretty quick if it just needs to "find" the files again.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #92 on: May 31, 2022, 10:48:52 am »

Maybe you don’t understand that I am no longer at home and using this app “offline”.
Pressing the three dots does not give a “Refresh” option. There is a “Refresh” button on the screen but it does nothing. Of course if I was home it would be no problem.

It is very curious to me that this happened after I connected to CarPlay in the rental car. I don’t know much about CarPlay. Is there any way these files could be deleted by CarPlay?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #93 on: May 31, 2022, 12:33:52 pm »

When you are home and connected to your server, do the refresh.  CarPlay should not affect this.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2022, 02:53:20 pm »

So yesterday I had a drive for about 1 1/2 hours and used MO 4 Media offline.  I played songs in an existing playlist that I had never played before in MO 4Media.  I had at least 8 - 10 songs that skipped to the last few seconds of the song instead of the beginning of the song. 

This is a bug of some sort.

Also the reason I was playing offline is that I received a message from my Cell service provider that I was over 50% of my data allotment for the month.  I am 8 days in and have 17GB available.  I don't believe that MO 4Media is transcoding anymore.  I have it set in Playback/Conversions under "Mobile Audio" with "Disable Conversions" button off and Conversion quality set to MP3 High.  But it still shows files playing as whatever their original format is (Mostly FLAC 24/96)

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« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2022, 03:08:48 pm »

So yesterday I had a drive for about 1 1/2 hours and used MO 4 Media offline.  I played songs in an existing playlist that I had never played before in MO 4Media.  I had at least 8 - 10 songs that skipped to the last few seconds of the song instead of the beginning of the song.

I don't believe that MO 4Media is transcoding anymore.  I have it set in Playback/Conversions under "Mobile Audio" with "Disable Conversions" button off and Conversion quality set to MP3 High.  But it still shows files playing as whatever their original format is (Mostly FLAC 24/96)

This is probably audio bookmarks again.  When you download the files initially they have the bookmarks from the library.  It will update these for the offline copy as you play.  So, if you listened through to the ends while offline and go to play them again, they should start from the beginning.  Let me know if that is not the case.

Tap the 3-dot menu next to the playback controls.  It will show you whether it is transcoding or not in the Audio Path section.

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2022, 11:15:32 pm »

This is probably audio bookmarks again.  When you download the files initially they have the bookmarks from the library.  It will update these for the offline copy as you play.  So, if you listened through to the ends while offline and go to play them again, they should start from the beginning.  Let me know if that is not the case.

This is definitely not the case.  When I am playing music wherever it might be I don't tend to skip past any songs or parts of songs.  So whatever reason it decided to skip to the end it is not because I had previously skipped any part of those songs.  I am not saying I never skip a song but Certainly not that many and not all when they are seconds before finishing. Every song that was played incorrectly started playing from the last few seconds of the song.  If I were going to skip a song it would more likely be at the beginning. Not at the end.

In any case I have my playlists set up so that the same song from the same album generally does not play twice within 90 days.  I really don't need any song starting from where it might have left off that I was playing 90 days ago.  This is not a very useful feature.

Tap the 3-dot menu next to the playback controls.  It will show you whether it is transcoding or not in the Audio Path section.
I will check this the next time I am playing music in the car or otherwise via cell data.

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #97 on: June 05, 2022, 08:22:04 am »

This is not a very useful feature.

You can just disable audio bookmarks in Settings.

Does the skipping to the end consistently happen with the same files?  If so, what file types are they?
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #98 on: June 08, 2022, 09:48:38 pm »

You can just disable audio bookmarks in Settings.

Does the skipping to the end consistently happen with the same files?  If so, what file types are they?

I do want it to continue where it left off when for example it disconnects and then reconnects as it does often in the car.  Or if I am in the middle of a song when I am leaving the car for something and then come back.  But not on songs that I never paused or skipped or stopped in the first place.

Most of my music is originally in FLAC on the JRiver server.  So the files would be converted to MP3 High during download or during transcoding if playing live from the server.

This is happening on 4 - 6 songs in an hour.  Often on 2 songs in a row (If I don't catch the first one and click on the back button to get back to the beginning of the song.)

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player (iOS) with CarPlay support
« Reply #99 on: June 09, 2022, 04:08:12 pm »

I do want it to continue where it left off when for example it disconnects and then reconnects as it does often in the car.  Or if I am in the middle of a song when I am leaving the car for something and then come back.

Most of my music is originally in FLAC on the JRiver server.  So the files would be converted to MP3 High during download or during transcoding if playing live from the server.

I will add some more settings for audio bookmarks.  Perhaps 1)"Do not use when older than N days" where the user specifies the number of days and 2) "Always use for Media Subtypes" where the user can specify "Audiobook" or other types?

I will have to try to reproduce this problem with playing downloads.  Are you using CarPlay when this happens?

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